Acknowledged.In post 2445, Radical Rat wrote:I want to jump ahead of this and request that you wait to share your findings until everyone has checked in.
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AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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A check of the Nightmare PT also makes me believe Titus isn't partnered with Radical Rat, so while RR might be a 3p or traitor, they're certainly not groupscum. Since hunting groupscum's optimal, for all intents and purposes, "not groupscum" = town.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Slightly updated.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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By the way, since we've confirmation the nightmare PT had scum within, to the others who were there: how much do you think we should make public? (Not sure how to best word this, hope you get what I mean.) In theory, everything in there, scum should know. Including what I claimed, for instance.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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Severely V/LA indefinitely
Apologies. A friend's indefinitely in a dire situation. A great amount of my free time will be dedicated to helping them.
I'll still be able to keep current, with reads/votes/feedback. I'll be unable to reread, or likely even case. I know I promised to. Apologies. I literally can't. Friend > games.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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VOTE: Ircher
Statement vote. I'll vote within the Abnegation/StD/Snivy group when it's less likely to end the day.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I appreciate your engagement on the subject, RR, yet feel obligated to note Ircher's likely not engaging in good faith; he's probably scum trying to dissuade you from eliminating another scumbuddy.In post 2695, Radical Rat wrote:Well, we were trying to create a Bulletproof IC, which... I think scum would very much have liked to get ahead of? To both shoot the target before it took effect (if they knew about that ahead of time), and/or try to steer it away from being a guilty instead (which they were unsuccessful in doing, but doesn't mean they wouldn't want to try).
It's the kind of thing I'd be very firm about interfering with if I were on the scumteam.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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Doubtful. Kyoko Kirigiri didn't receive votes for her push on me. At most, one or two. Even I never voted her, and I was the one pushing her.In post 2737, Rautherdir wrote:... hmm. Actually. Was pushing Ranger risky enough for Kirigiri to assume it might backfire and get them eliminated instead... That might change things...
She near-certainly believed she'd live.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I agree with 2770AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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The two I remember bringing it up prior to Kyoko Kirigiri were usesPython and Morning Tweet.In post 2777, Radical Rat wrote:I know I was pushing it, but I think specifically the "Ranger using puns is crumbing/signaling" take started with someone else.
It’s possible it wasn’t someone who brought it up, rather, instead, someone who saw the conversation and decided to not mirror the existing town thoughts.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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Oh, I’m an IC. I don’t particularly feel like reparaphrasing a third time especially on mobile, so just know; I can reveal myself as town on any day phase now.In post 2786, DragonEater70 wrote:Wait, are you and Ranger confirmed town mechanically or otherwise? What did I miss?
I mean I do townread both of you but why conftown?
There’s more to my role; that’s the pertinent part. Not sure what I should share. Mafia know, because I claimed N1; unless the 3p was present or recruited a member present N1, any 3p wouldn’t.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It's one-shot.In post 2812, usesPython wrote:Actually nvm, Ranger are you 1-shot IC or just IC in general? cause if it's not 1-shot you can just reveal every dayAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Current reads. Should be noted usesPython's effectively on the RR tier, and is only on a technicality lower. RR's confirmed mason, usesPython's only suspected-N1-kill. Withverycompelling evidence, yet technically unconfirmed.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well, you have my day action claim already (the IC).In post 2845, Radical Rat wrote:Alright, we've talked things over, and have agreed to a massclaim today.
Is anyone out here opposed?
Let me know if you want me to pop it.
For the missing part, the night action is a doctor protect. N1, I protected usesPython, but per the mod, that means I was certainly roleblocked. (Drew wouldn’t have died protecting usesPython if my protection succeeded.)
N2, I protected you.
One of my modifiers is anonymously playing a game against an anonymous opponent. Whoever wins gets a boon to their role. Mine is upgrading my doctor, to make it not fail. (I lost N1.)
Can paraphrase later, bit busy rn.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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Apologies. Friend emergency. I'll said N2, I forfeited thanks to friend emergency.In post 2851, Ranger wrote:Well, you have my day action claim already (the IC).
Let me know if you want me to pop it.
For the missing part, the night action is a doctor protect. N1, I protected usesPython, but per the mod, that means I was certainly roleblocked. (Drew wouldn’t have died protecting usesPython if my protection succeeded.)
N2, I protected you.
One of my modifiers is anonymously playing a game against an anonymous opponent. Whoever wins gets a boon to their role. Mine is upgrading my doctor, to make it not fail. (I lost N1.)
Can paraphrase later, bit busy rn.
I have the Unique modifier as well.
There's four parts to my role in total. An IC action, described in full in the N1 Nightmare.
A doctor, which can be upgraded for the night by winning the game.
The Unique modifier, where my role can't reappear no matter what.
Then the chess game. If I win, my doctor cannot fail under any circumstances. I don't know who I'm playing against.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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I realize Save The Dragons is cleared by camelCasedSnivy.In post 2882, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm an investigative role. I targeted aureal n1 and got an innocent. I targeted no one last night because I'm dumb and forgot to. Will clarify if requested.
I'd still prefer STD give this clarification given the number of investigatives we've already got.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It also seemed obvious to us Abnegation was Radical Rat's mason partner; we deliberately ignored any mason-based suspicions as to not tip the scum off, in case the scum didn't see what we did. After RR revealed they artificially had Aureal high, didn't take a genius to realize RR had Abnegation, a player in Kyoko Kirigiri's proposal, artificially high. But I digress.In post 2884, usesPython wrote:Yeah we saw the first one which is why we took RR at face value when they said you're townAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Exactly what Morning Tweet said, and presumably, is applicable to Rautherdir's Absorb.In post 3186, usesPython wrote:
What does this mean?In post 3182, Ranger wrote:The Unique modifier, where my role can't reappear no matter what.
I'm vouching from my role PM the mechanics they stated about theirs.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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Speaking of, can someone please check the timing on the investigatives to see if their claimed actions match with their dayplay? If their targets make sense going into the night, and their play after supports it?In post 2891, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
well std would be trying to bus me day 1 and day 2 by that logicIn post 2888, usesPython wrote:Do we think Snivy and StD are scum together? Cause if not that clears StD I think
I'd do it myself normally. I'm...a little preoccupied currently.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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I've no information on why my action would've failed.In post 2933, KatyKimFanClub wrote:Ranger didn't mentioned strongwilled jailkeep though, and since it's announcing I think she would know?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Ignoring the claimed innocents, this is where I'm at.Somewhere, there must be 1-2 groupscum and 1 traitor. Ircher's a surefire bet for being scum imo. I'm not sure where the other 1-2 scum would be though.
I believe Doctor Drew saved usesPython N1 from the scum nightkill.
I believe all of Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub, and sheepsaysmeep to be town by both play and their claimed roles. I don't think they're scum. 3p, possible; not scum.
I believe Morning Tweet's claim, and it's not a role likely scum.
Someonehas to be scum, beyond just Ircher. The pool of possibilities is quite small.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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In post 3208, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
Rauth and std (and me :P) are misplacedIn post 3204, Ranger wrote:{Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70}
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Ignoring the claimed innocents, this is where I'm at.Somewhere, there must be 1-2 groupscum and 1 traitor. Ircher's a surefire bet for being scum imo. I'm not sure where the other 1-2 scum would be though.
I believe Doctor Drew saved usesPython N1 from the scum nightkill.
I believe all of Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub, and sheepsaysmeep to be town by both play and their claimed roles. I don't think they're scum. 3p, possible; not scum.
I believe Morning Tweet's claim, and it's not a role likely scum.
Someonehas to be scum, beyond just Ircher. The pool of possibilities is quite small.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'm genuinely surprised we've one of the longest isos in this game. We've been solidly top-4, sometimes top-3.In post 3001, usesPython wrote:
*Nervously looks at our 3 page ISO*In post 2996, DragonEater70 wrote:Agreed, but I normally find myself completely out of motivation to play when there's like 20+ pages to catch up on.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It'd give two doctor protections, so yes.In post 3016, usesPython wrote:Would us motivating you so that you can use the protect twice in one night be useful or no?
My concern is, if you broadcast who you're giving the motivation to, it also broadcasts who scum should interfere with.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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My doctor isn't. Scum can't interfere with usesPython. They can, with usesPython's target.In post 3216, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
its a day actionIn post 3214, Ranger wrote:
It'd give two doctor protections, so yes.In post 3016, usesPython wrote:Would us motivating you so that you can use the protect twice in one night be useful or no?
My concern is, if you broadcast who you're giving the motivation to, it also broadcasts who scum should interfere with.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Drew didn't claim protective at all. He did claim usesPython as a target; scum had no way to know it was as an elite bodyguard. I'd say 99%.In post 3218, Morning Tweet wrote:If Titus was in the nightmare, why did she attack Python ?
What is the certainty that Drew targetted Python? 99%, 90%?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I actually agree.In post 3224, sheepsaysmeep wrote:if we're going in 7p direction I think I should be includedAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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While Rautherdir might be cult, Rauth shouldn't be mafia here. Rautherdir's hard-town by play, and I believe the role, as well as the usage.In post 3090, usesPython wrote:We can do Rauth too tbh, I'm content to let multiball scum eat each other alive rn
I'd prefer Ircher, who isn't even trying to hide how he's scum this game. His claimed role's nothing we can't afford to lose, either.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Correct.In post 3227, Morning Tweet wrote:So it was pretty clear Drew was going to target python just not with what, gotchaAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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HURT: Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70, usesPython, Ranger, sheepsaysmeep, KatyKimFanClubAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I prefer not Flea, as I've not the same confidence in fae.In post 3232, usesPython wrote:If we're doing 7p we'd prefer Flea be in there, I don't see a world where fae wasn't town at the start of N2
Fae've given inventions which presumably are +town.
I don't trust fae to be town from it.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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sheepsaysmeep couldn't have acted either N1 or N2. Scum already have a flipped strongman, therefore, sheep is near-certainly not one. As sheep is confirmed to have not acted, any unaccounted for action couldn't originate from him. Therefore, sheep's almost certainly town.In post 3234, Flea The Magician wrote:
Why? Sell yourself to me.In post 3224, sheepsaysmeep wrote:if we're going in 7p direction I think I should be includedAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Kinda.In post 3237, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm probably on her chop list
I don't think you're scum, per se.
I do think someone needs to be beyond Ircher, and I've reasons to townread most players more than you. I don't trust you to be town. I certainly wouldn't mind if you died; I wouldn't advocate for it. Idoadvocate for not trusting you.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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No clarity needed. Scum can give town inventions which should only ever come from town. The role's clearly real enough. There's no guarantee everything's exactly as it seems. I refuse to trust a player off claim alone.In post 3241, usesPython wrote:We can clarify in the nightmare why those inventions only ever come from townAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'd say sheep's confirmed unless KKFC lied about their role, specifically. KatyKimFanClub's claimed role isn't something to target a scumbuddy with. As long as the role is real, sheepsaysmeep should be town.In post 3258, usesPython wrote:
If KKFC is not scum with sheep then it's confirmedIn post 3254, Flea The Magician wrote:Also how is sheep *confirmed* to have not acted?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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The only rolecop town has was oneshot. Unless scum think the masons are lying, they'd have no reason to fear a rolecop. Rauth claimed after everyone else had, and knew the roles town have.In post 3176, Morning Tweet wrote: Maybe the threat of rolecopping?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I say both.In post 3261, usesPython wrote:KKFC + sheep is a package deal, we either add both or we add neither
I don't trust Save The Dragons to be town from the cop result alone.
I don't trust Flea The Magician to be town from dispensing a +town invention alone.
KKFC + sheepsaysmeep have both been in the prior N2 nightmare, and it seemed good enough then. I think they should stay N3.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It's possible.In post 3263, KatyKimFanClub wrote:What if sheep is cult leader and they've just never been able to recruit
My list of 3ps is:
{KatyKimFanClub, sheepsaysmeep, Rautherdir, Flea The Magician}.
KKFC for having the exact role which was cult last game. sheep for the messenger role being good cover for cult. Rautherdir because those JOAT abilities fit for cult. Flea because a potential downside of the inventions is furthering a cult wincon. (Say, every player receiving an invention, and/or every player being targeted by an invention.)
Still, today's focus is on scum, not 3p. Thus, I'd prefer not focusing on cult leader.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well here's proof the N2 nightmare had zero scum.In post 3267, Ircher wrote:What was the N2 nightmare ability anyway? I don't think anyone mentioned it today.
Obviously, nobody answer him.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Absolutely. There's countless number of reasons scum would hand out +town inventions. Required by the mod. Gains an advantage. The inventions are sabotaged and don't do what they say. Or even quite simply, towncred.In post 3268, camelCasedSnivy wrote:What if that invention is FN? Would scum hand out a FN invention or something similar?
Flea may be town. Still, I'm certainly not trusting fae off role alone.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'm fairly certain I see it.In post 3277, usesPython wrote:
Mason Crew + Hood Crew either sees what we see or they don't, no need to get worked up about itIn post 3273, Ircher wrote:
How is it a slip? I was not in it; therefore, I do not know what the result was.In post 3270, usesPython wrote:
Does this look like a slip to anyone else?In post 3267, Ircher wrote:What was the N2 nightmare ability anyway? I don't think anyone mentioned it today.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'll say play-wise I read this response as +town, so while Flea may not be cleared, fae're fairly +town.In post 3275, Flea The Magician wrote:
Ircher you just open wolfing here or genuinely just want all the information as public as possible?In post 3267, Ircher wrote:What was the N2 nightmare ability anyway? I don't think anyone mentioned it today.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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{Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70}
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{Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub}
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{camelCasedSnivy, Save The Dragons}
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Updated.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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We can agree Ircher's not making a real proposal, correct? That he's in anti-spew mode?In post 3288, Ircher wrote:HURT: Morning Tweet, Ircher, Save the Dragons, sheepsaysmeep, Flea The MagicianAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Mildly, yes. My reasons to townread Morning Tweet by play are somewhat stale. The Flea read, less so.In post 3296, camelCasedSnivy wrote:...so you trust flea more than the role which is basicallyonlyuseful in town hands?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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No, I can't get outside assistance.In post 3300, usesPython wrote:Hey Ranger are you allowed to ask for help in the chess match?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It sure is!In post 3319, Rautherdir wrote:Rangers IC I also knew about night two but I guessed it was likely to be unique.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I peaked at 500, when I played regularly.In post 3326, camelCasedSnivy wrote:ranger what chess elo are you
Because the masons haven't asked me to, yet.In post 3336, Ircher wrote:With as many mason claims as there are out here already, I don't understand why Ranger hasn't used her ability yet.
I'll pull the trigger when the conftown tell me to.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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More accurate.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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You're going to be disappointed. When I say I peaked at 500 playing regularly, I mean I'mIn post 3364, usesPython wrote:
What can you tell us about the chess games this match? List of moves/Name of opening/How much did your opponent blunder/Did they ever En Passant/Castle?In post 3360, Ranger wrote:
I peaked at 500, when I played regularly.In post 3326, camelCasedSnivy wrote:ranger what chess elo are yousignificantly worsenow, because I've not played chess in 15 years.
The first game went like this. (I thought I was playing against an idiot. Turns out I'm the idiot.)
White Queen's Pawn two forward to d4.
I put my Black darksquare bishop's Pawn to f5.
White's darksquare Bishop to g5.
I put my Black rook's Pawn to h6.
White's darksquare Bishop to f4.
I put my Black knight's Pawn to g5.
White's darksquare Bishop to g3.
I put my Black darksquare bishop's Pawn to f4.
White's king's Pawn to e3.
I captured the darksquare Bishop with my darksquare bishop's Black Pawn to e3.
White's lightsquare Bishop to d3.
I put my Black knight's Pawn to b5. (I was aiming for their rook, since I was sure they couldn't save it.)
White Bishop moved to g6, which was checkmate.
The second game never played out.
White king's Pawn to e4.
I put my black queen's Pawn to e5.
White queen's Pawn to d4.
I forfeited, due to friend emergency.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Ircher's already in antispew mode, and the town can continue talking in PTs during the night with the information of his flip. Hammering himself doesn't prevent the town from gaining anything.In post 3438, usesPython wrote:Why didn't Ircher hammer himself when he was at E-1?
In contrast, if Ircher in antispew mode can actually swing a Rautherdir elimination, then Ircher gains a free mislim and goes down instantly tomorrow.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'll say another possible motive for no hammer is a supersaint aspect to Ircher's role, so it'd be best to have someone we can afford to lose as the hammer, just in case. I'd volunteer Morning Tweet, as her role's more powerful from the dead thread.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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So that's a guilty, right?
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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camelCasedSnivy was the cult leader, and though you're not cleared, you look better.In post 3556, KatyKimFanClub wrote:I am clear of being CL, unless we think there were multiple starting cult with me.
The dream about PT results being blocked suggests the person sending it got blocked. Since the action was never claimed...AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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In post 3567, usesPython wrote:Conftown:- Ranger
- Radical Rat
- Abnegation
- usesPython
- Save The Dragons
- KatyKimFanClub
Technically, KatyKimFanClub isn'tconftown. The action clearing him could've been redirected or roleblocked. However, as there's a finite number of scum actions, with KKFC's action proven, he's essentially so. He can't be the source of any scum mystery actions. Since his action is proven, it's hard to say he'd have a method to foil the action. So for all intents and purposes, he is. Plus, as long as Flea and him are alive, poe wins the game.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I want the masons to approve first.In post 3569, usesPython wrote:Ranger you should be safe to IC at this point since Cult's goneAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Given DragonEater's claim, this fits. DragonEater70 claimed to be using a detective N1 on Kyoko Kirigiri. Then, on N3, said he was going to use it again. I think the actual action was different.In post 3567, usesPython wrote:Oh yeah, KKFC targeted DE so that's our unclaimed Publishing TA
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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A valid question. However, the results are clear enough. There's no way to frame DE70 for this, near as I can tell.In post 3577, usesPython wrote:KKFC claimed his action in the nightmare, why didn't DE holster?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Who would know to target DragonEater70?In post 3581, usesPython wrote:
Yeah we still kill DE here since the only way for scum to frame town!DE is to TA DE which now that I write it out sounds more likely than it should beIn post 3580, Ranger wrote:
A valid question. However, the results are clear enough. There's no way to frame DE70 for this, near as I can tell.In post 3577, usesPython wrote:KKFC claimed his action in the nightmare, why didn't DE holster?
The only player who could've was sheepsaysmeep. The player blocked N1. The only way he'd pull it off is with a strongman ta N1 which isn't strongmanned N3.
The scum wouldn't know to frame him, because they weren't in the nightmare.
Unless sheepsaysmeep is scum, relayed the plan to their partner, who acted N1 and N3 freely.
This seems rather unlikely.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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In post 3590, Rautherdir wrote:Boom, headshot
So you're claiming to have shot camelCasedSnivy?In post 3591, Rautherdir wrote:I was very shaken by Ircher's flip but reasoned that my original planned action shouldn't be affected. I feel like I telegraphed that pretty hard.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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