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Post Post #2447 (isolation #200) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:38 pm

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In post 2445, Radical Rat wrote:I want to jump ahead of this and request that you wait to share your findings until everyone has checked in.
Acknowledged.
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Post Post #2448 (isolation #201) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:42 pm

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A check of the Nightmare PT also makes me believe Titus isn't partnered with Radical Rat, so while RR might be a 3p or traitor, they're certainly not groupscum. Since hunting groupscum's optimal, for all intents and purposes, "not groupscum" = town.
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Post Post #2451 (isolation #202) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:48 pm

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Post Post #2455 (isolation #203) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:50 pm

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By the way, since we've confirmation the nightmare PT had scum within, to the others who were there: how much do you think we should make public? (Not sure how to best word this, hope you get what I mean.) In theory, everything in there, scum should know. Including what I claimed, for instance.
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #204) » Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:25 pm

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Severely V/LA indefinitely

Apologies. A friend's indefinitely in a dire situation. A great amount of my free time will be dedicated to helping them.

I'll still be able to keep current, with reads/votes/feedback. I'll be unable to reread, or likely even case. I know I promised to. Apologies. I literally can't. Friend > games.
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Post Post #2694 (isolation #205) » Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:42 pm

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VOTE: Ircher
Statement vote. I'll vote within the Abnegation/StD/Snivy group when it's less likely to end the day.
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Post Post #2696 (isolation #206) » Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:52 pm

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In post 2695, Radical Rat wrote:Well, we were trying to create a Bulletproof IC, which... I think scum would very much have liked to get ahead of? To both shoot the target before it took effect (if they knew about that ahead of time), and/or try to steer it away from being a guilty instead (which they were unsuccessful in doing, but doesn't mean they wouldn't want to try).

It's the kind of thing I'd be very firm about interfering with if I were on the scumteam.
I appreciate your engagement on the subject, RR, yet feel obligated to note Ircher's likely not engaging in good faith; he's probably scum trying to dissuade you from eliminating another scumbuddy.
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Post Post #2741 (isolation #207) » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:12 pm

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In post 2737, Rautherdir wrote:... hmm. Actually. Was pushing Ranger risky enough for Kirigiri to assume it might backfire and get them eliminated instead... That might change things...
Doubtful. Kyoko Kirigiri didn't receive votes for her push on me. At most, one or two. Even I never voted her, and I was the one pushing her.

She near-certainly believed she'd live.
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Post Post #2805 (isolation #208) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:30 am

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I agree with
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Post Post #2806 (isolation #209) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:07 am

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In post 2777, Radical Rat wrote:I know I was pushing it, but I think specifically the "Ranger using puns is crumbing/signaling" take started with someone else.
The two I remember bringing it up prior to Kyoko Kirigiri were usesPython and Morning Tweet.

It’s possible it wasn’t someone who brought it up, rather, instead, someone who saw the conversation and decided to not mirror the existing town thoughts.
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Post Post #2807 (isolation #210) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:14 am

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In post 2786, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 2770, usesPython wrote: Nightmare wise for conftown we have:
  • Ranger
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Wait, are you and Ranger confirmed town mechanically or otherwise? What did I miss?

I mean I do townread both of you but why conftown?
Oh, I’m an IC. I don’t particularly feel like reparaphrasing a third time especially on mobile, so just know; I can reveal myself as town on any day phase now.

There’s more to my role; that’s the pertinent part. Not sure what I should share. Mafia know, because I claimed N1; unless the 3p was present or recruited a member present N1, any 3p wouldn’t.
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Post Post #2821 (isolation #211) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:26 pm

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In post 2812, usesPython wrote:Actually nvm, Ranger are you 1-shot IC or just IC in general? cause if it's not 1-shot you can just reveal every day
It's one-shot.
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Post Post #2822 (isolation #212) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:34 pm

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Current reads. Should be noted usesPython's effectively on the RR tier, and is only on a technicality lower. RR's confirmed mason, usesPython's only suspected-N1-kill. With
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Post Post #2851 (isolation #213) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:00 am

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In post 2845, Radical Rat wrote:Alright, we've talked things over, and have agreed to a massclaim today.

Is anyone out here opposed?
Well, you have my day action claim already (the IC).
Let me know if you want me to pop it.

For the missing part, the night action is a doctor protect. N1, I protected usesPython, but per the mod, that means I was certainly roleblocked. (Drew wouldn’t have died protecting usesPython if my protection succeeded.)

N2, I protected you.

One of my modifiers is anonymously playing a game against an anonymous opponent. Whoever wins gets a boon to their role. Mine is upgrading my doctor, to make it not fail. (I lost N1.)

Can paraphrase later, bit busy rn.
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Post Post #3182 (isolation #214) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:09 am

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In post 2851, Ranger wrote:Well, you have my day action claim already (the IC).
Let me know if you want me to pop it.

For the missing part, the night action is a doctor protect. N1, I protected usesPython, but per the mod, that means I was certainly roleblocked. (Drew wouldn’t have died protecting usesPython if my protection succeeded.)

N2, I protected you.

One of my modifiers is anonymously playing a game against an anonymous opponent. Whoever wins gets a boon to their role. Mine is upgrading my doctor, to make it not fail. (I lost N1.)

Can paraphrase later, bit busy rn.
Apologies. Friend emergency. I'll said N2, I forfeited thanks to friend emergency.

I have the Unique modifier as well.

There's four parts to my role in total. An IC action, described in full in the N1 Nightmare.
A doctor, which can be upgraded for the night by winning the game.
The Unique modifier, where my role can't reappear no matter what.
Then the chess game. If I win, my doctor cannot fail under any circumstances. I don't know who I'm playing against.
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Post Post #3185 (isolation #215) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:15 am

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In post 2882, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm an investigative role. I targeted aureal n1 and got an innocent. I targeted no one last night because I'm dumb and forgot to. Will clarify if requested.
I realize Save The Dragons is cleared by camelCasedSnivy.

I'd still prefer STD give this clarification given the number of investigatives we've already got.
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Post Post #3188 (isolation #216) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:19 am

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In post 2884, usesPython wrote:Yeah we saw the first one which is why we took RR at face value when they said you're town
It also seemed obvious to us Abnegation was Radical Rat's mason partner; we deliberately ignored any mason-based suspicions as to not tip the scum off, in case the scum didn't see what we did. After RR revealed they artificially had Aureal high, didn't take a genius to realize RR had Abnegation, a player in Kyoko Kirigiri's proposal, artificially high. But I digress.
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Post Post #3190 (isolation #217) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:20 am

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In post 3186, usesPython wrote:
In post 3182, Ranger wrote:The Unique modifier, where my role can't reappear no matter what.
What does this mean?
Exactly what Morning Tweet said, and presumably, is applicable to Rautherdir's Absorb.

I'm vouching from my role PM the mechanics they stated about theirs.
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Post Post #3192 (isolation #218) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:23 am

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In post 2891, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 2888, usesPython wrote:Do we think Snivy and StD are scum together? Cause if not that clears StD I think
well std would be trying to bus me day 1 and day 2 by that logic
Speaking of, can someone please check the timing on the investigatives to see if their claimed actions match with their dayplay? If their targets make sense going into the night, and their play after supports it?

I'd do it myself normally. I'm...a little preoccupied currently.
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Post Post #3197 (isolation #219) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:30 am

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In post 2933, KatyKimFanClub wrote:Ranger didn't mentioned strongwilled jailkeep though, and since it's announcing I think she would know?
I've no information on why my action would've failed.
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Post Post #3204 (isolation #220) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:39 am

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Ignoring the claimed innocents, this is where I'm at.
Somewhere
, there must be 1-2 groupscum and 1 traitor. Ircher's a surefire bet for being scum imo. I'm not sure where the other 1-2 scum would be though.

I believe Doctor Drew saved usesPython N1 from the scum nightkill.
I believe all of Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub, and sheepsaysmeep to be town by both play and their claimed roles. I don't think they're scum. 3p, possible; not scum.
I believe Morning Tweet's claim, and it's not a role likely scum.

Someone
has to be scum, beyond just Ircher. The pool of possibilities is quite small.
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Post Post #3210 (isolation #221) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:46 am

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In post 3208, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 3204, Ranger wrote:{Radical Rat, Abnegation, DragonEater70}
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Ignoring the claimed innocents
, this is where I'm at.
Somewhere
, there must be 1-2 groupscum and 1 traitor. Ircher's a surefire bet for being scum imo. I'm not sure where the other 1-2 scum would be though.

I believe Doctor Drew saved usesPython N1 from the scum nightkill.
I believe all of Rautherdir, KatyKimFanClub, and sheepsaysmeep to be town by both play and their claimed roles. I don't think they're scum. 3p, possible; not scum.
I believe Morning Tweet's claim, and it's not a role likely scum.

Someone
has to be scum, beyond just Ircher. The pool of possibilities is quite small.
Rauth and std (and me :P) are misplaced
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Post Post #3211 (isolation #222) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:48 am

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In post 3001, usesPython wrote:
In post 2996, DragonEater70 wrote:Agreed, but I normally find myself completely out of motivation to play when there's like 20+ pages to catch up on.
*Nervously looks at our 3 page ISO*
I'm genuinely surprised we've one of the longest isos in this game. We've been solidly top-4, sometimes top-3.
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Post Post #3214 (isolation #223) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:52 am

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In post 3016, usesPython wrote:Would us motivating you so that you can use the protect twice in one night be useful or no?
It'd give two doctor protections, so yes.

My concern is, if you broadcast who you're giving the motivation to, it also broadcasts who scum should interfere with.
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Post Post #3217 (isolation #224) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:54 am

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In post 3216, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 3214, Ranger wrote:
In post 3016, usesPython wrote:Would us motivating you so that you can use the protect twice in one night be useful or no?
It'd give two doctor protections, so yes.

My concern is, if you broadcast who you're giving the motivation to, it also broadcasts who scum should interfere with.
its a day action
My doctor isn't. Scum can't interfere with usesPython. They can, with usesPython's target.
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Post Post #3220 (isolation #225) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:07 am

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In post 3218, Morning Tweet wrote:If Titus was in the nightmare, why did she attack Python ?
What is the certainty that Drew targetted Python? 99%, 90%?
Drew didn't claim protective at all. He did claim usesPython as a target; scum had no way to know it was as an elite bodyguard. I'd say 99%.
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Post Post #3226 (isolation #226) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:12 am

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In post 3224, sheepsaysmeep wrote:if we're going in 7p direction I think I should be included
I actually agree.
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Post Post #3228 (isolation #227) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 3090, usesPython wrote:We can do Rauth too tbh, I'm content to let multiball scum eat each other alive rn
While Rautherdir might be cult, Rauth shouldn't be mafia here. Rautherdir's hard-town by play, and I believe the role, as well as the usage.

I'd prefer Ircher, who isn't even trying to hide how he's scum this game. His claimed role's nothing we can't afford to lose, either.
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Post Post #3229 (isolation #228) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 3227, Morning Tweet wrote:So it was pretty clear Drew was going to target python just not with what, gotcha
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Post Post #3233 (isolation #229) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:21 am

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Post Post #3235 (isolation #230) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:23 am

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In post 3232, usesPython wrote:If we're doing 7p we'd prefer Flea be in there, I don't see a world where fae wasn't town at the start of N2
I prefer not Flea, as I've not the same confidence in fae.

Fae've given inventions which presumably are +town.

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Post Post #3239 (isolation #231) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:25 am

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In post 3234, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 3224, sheepsaysmeep wrote:if we're going in 7p direction I think I should be included
Why? Sell yourself to me.
sheepsaysmeep couldn't have acted either N1 or N2. Scum already have a flipped strongman, therefore, sheep is near-certainly not one. As sheep is confirmed to have not acted, any unaccounted for action couldn't originate from him. Therefore, sheep's almost certainly town.
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Post Post #3245 (isolation #232) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:27 am

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In post 3237, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm probably on her chop list
Kinda.

I don't think you're scum, per se.

I do think someone needs to be beyond Ircher, and I've reasons to townread most players more than you. I don't trust you to be town. I certainly wouldn't mind if you died; I wouldn't advocate for it. I
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Post Post #3248 (isolation #233) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:29 am

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In post 3241, usesPython wrote:We can clarify in the nightmare why those inventions only ever come from town
No clarity needed. Scum can give town inventions which should only ever come from town. The role's clearly real enough. There's no guarantee everything's exactly as it seems. I refuse to trust a player off claim alone.
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Post Post #3260 (isolation #234) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:44 am

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In post 3258, usesPython wrote:
In post 3254, Flea The Magician wrote:Also how is sheep *confirmed* to have not acted?
If KKFC is not scum with sheep then it's confirmed
I'd say sheep's confirmed unless KKFC lied about their role, specifically. KatyKimFanClub's claimed role isn't something to target a scumbuddy with. As long as the role is real, sheepsaysmeep should be town.
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Post Post #3264 (isolation #235) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:47 am

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In post 3176, Morning Tweet wrote: Maybe the threat of rolecopping?
The only rolecop town has was oneshot. Unless scum think the masons are lying, they'd have no reason to fear a rolecop. Rauth claimed after everyone else had, and knew the roles town have.
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Post Post #3266 (isolation #236) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:48 am

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In post 3261, usesPython wrote:KKFC + sheep is a package deal, we either add both or we add neither
I say both.

I don't trust Save The Dragons to be town from the cop result alone.
I don't trust Flea The Magician to be town from dispensing a +town invention alone.

KKFC + sheepsaysmeep have both been in the prior N2 nightmare, and it seemed good enough then. I think they should stay N3.
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Post Post #3269 (isolation #237) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:51 am

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In post 3263, KatyKimFanClub wrote:What if sheep is cult leader and they've just never been able to recruit
It's possible.

My list of 3ps is:
{KatyKimFanClub, sheepsaysmeep, Rautherdir, Flea The Magician}.
KKFC for having the exact role which was cult last game. sheep for the messenger role being good cover for cult. Rautherdir because those JOAT abilities fit for cult. Flea because a potential downside of the inventions is furthering a cult wincon. (Say, every player receiving an invention, and/or every player being targeted by an invention.)

Still, today's focus is on scum, not 3p. Thus, I'd prefer not focusing on cult leader.
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Post Post #3271 (isolation #238) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:51 am

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In post 3267, Ircher wrote:What was the N2 nightmare ability anyway? I don't think anyone mentioned it today.
Well here's proof the N2 nightmare had zero scum.

Obviously, nobody answer him.
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Post Post #3278 (isolation #239) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:56 am

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In post 3268, camelCasedSnivy wrote:What if that invention is FN? Would scum hand out a FN invention or something similar?
Absolutely. There's countless number of reasons scum would hand out +town inventions. Required by the mod. Gains an advantage. The inventions are sabotaged and don't do what they say. Or even quite simply, towncred.

Flea may be town. Still, I'm certainly not trusting fae off role alone.
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Post Post #3280 (isolation #240) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:57 am

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In post 3277, usesPython wrote:
In post 3273, Ircher wrote:
In post 3270, usesPython wrote:
In post 3267, Ircher wrote:What was the N2 nightmare ability anyway? I don't think anyone mentioned it today.
Does this look like a slip to anyone else?
How is it a slip? I was not in it; therefore, I do not know what the result was.
Mason Crew + Hood Crew either sees what we see or they don't, no need to get worked up about it
I'm fairly certain I see it.
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Post Post #3282 (isolation #241) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:59 am

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In post 3275, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 3267, Ircher wrote:What was the N2 nightmare ability anyway? I don't think anyone mentioned it today.
Ircher you just open wolfing here or genuinely just want all the information as public as possible?
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Post Post #3289 (isolation #242) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:03 pm

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Post Post #3292 (isolation #243) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:05 pm

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In post 3288, Ircher wrote:HURT: Morning Tweet, Ircher, Save the Dragons, sheepsaysmeep, Flea The Magician
We can agree Ircher's not making a real proposal, correct? That he's in anti-spew mode?
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Post Post #3323 (isolation #244) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:57 pm

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In post 3296, camelCasedSnivy wrote:...so you trust flea more than the role which is basically
only
useful in town hands?
Mildly, yes. My reasons to townread Morning Tweet by play are somewhat stale. The Flea read, less so.
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Post Post #3324 (isolation #245) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:58 pm

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In post 3300, usesPython wrote:Hey Ranger are you allowed to ask for help in the chess match?
No, I can't get outside assistance.
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Post Post #3325 (isolation #246) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:00 pm

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In post 3319, Rautherdir wrote:Rangers IC I also knew about night two but I guessed it was likely to be unique.
It sure is!
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #247) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:30 pm

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In post 3326, camelCasedSnivy wrote:ranger what chess elo are you
I peaked at 500, when I played regularly.
In post 3336, Ircher wrote:With as many mason claims as there are out here already, I don't understand why Ranger hasn't used her ability yet.
Because the masons haven't asked me to, yet.

I'll pull the trigger when the conftown tell me to.
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Post Post #3362 (isolation #248) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:43 pm

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Post Post #3475 (isolation #249) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:58 pm

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In post 3364, usesPython wrote:
In post 3360, Ranger wrote:
In post 3326, camelCasedSnivy wrote:ranger what chess elo are you
I peaked at 500, when I played regularly.
What can you tell us about the chess games this match? List of moves/Name of opening/How much did your opponent blunder/Did they ever En Passant/Castle?
You're going to be disappointed. When I say I peaked at 500 playing regularly, I mean I'm
significantly worse
now, because I've not played chess in 15 years.

The first game went like this. (I thought I was playing against an idiot. Turns out I'm the idiot.)

White Queen's Pawn two forward to d4.
I put my Black darksquare bishop's Pawn to f5.
White's darksquare Bishop to g5.
I put my Black rook's Pawn to h6.
White's darksquare Bishop to f4.
I put my Black knight's Pawn to g5.
White's darksquare Bishop to g3.
I put my Black darksquare bishop's Pawn to f4.
White's king's Pawn to e3.
I captured the darksquare Bishop with my darksquare bishop's Black Pawn to e3.
White's lightsquare Bishop to d3.
I put my Black knight's Pawn to b5. (I was aiming for their rook, since I was sure they couldn't save it.)
White Bishop moved to g6, which was checkmate.

The second game never played out.

White king's Pawn to e4.
I put my black queen's Pawn to e5.
White queen's Pawn to d4.
I forfeited, due to friend emergency.
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Post Post #3476 (isolation #250) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:11 pm

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In post 3438, usesPython wrote:Why didn't Ircher hammer himself when he was at E-1?
Ircher's already in antispew mode, and the town can continue talking in PTs during the night with the information of his flip. Hammering himself doesn't prevent the town from gaining anything.

In contrast, if Ircher in antispew mode can actually swing a Rautherdir elimination, then Ircher gains a free mislim and goes down instantly tomorrow.
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Post Post #3477 (isolation #251) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:15 pm

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I'll say another possible motive for no hammer is a supersaint aspect to Ircher's role, so it'd be best to have someone we can afford to lose as the hammer, just in case. I'd volunteer Morning Tweet, as her role's more powerful from the dead thread.
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Post Post #3566 (isolation #252) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:29 pm

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In post 3552, Korina wrote:
I had a dream last night that NO RESULT.
So that's a guilty, right?
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Post Post #3570 (isolation #253) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 pm

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In post 3556, KatyKimFanClub wrote:I am clear of being CL, unless we think there were multiple starting cult with me.
camelCasedSnivy was the cult leader, and though you're not cleared, you look better.

The dream about PT results being blocked suggests the person sending it got blocked. Since the action was never claimed...
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Post Post #3574 (isolation #254) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:43 pm

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In post 3567, usesPython wrote:Conftown:
  • Ranger
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Technically
, KatyKimFanClub isn't
conftown
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Post Post #3575 (isolation #255) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:44 pm

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In post 3569, usesPython wrote:Ranger you should be safe to IC at this point since Cult's gone
I want the masons to approve first.
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Post Post #3576 (isolation #256) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:49 pm

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In post 3567, usesPython wrote:
In post 3566, Ranger wrote:
In post 3552, Korina wrote:
I had a dream last night that NO RESULT.
So that's a guilty, right?
Oh yeah, KKFC targeted DE so that's our unclaimed Publishing TA
Given DragonEater's claim, this fits. DragonEater70 claimed to be using a detective N1 on Kyoko Kirigiri. Then, on N3, said he was going to use it again. I think the actual action was different.
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Post Post #3580 (isolation #257) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:04 pm

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In post 3577, usesPython wrote:KKFC claimed his action in the nightmare, why didn't DE holster?
A valid question. However, the results are clear enough. There's no way to frame DE70 for this, near as I can tell.
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Post Post #3583 (isolation #258) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:09 pm

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In post 3581, usesPython wrote:
In post 3580, Ranger wrote:
In post 3577, usesPython wrote:KKFC claimed his action in the nightmare, why didn't DE holster?
A valid question. However, the results are clear enough. There's no way to frame DE70 for this, near as I can tell.
Yeah we still kill DE here since the only way for scum to frame town!DE is to TA DE which now that I write it out sounds more likely than it should be
Who would know to target DragonEater70?

The only player who could've was sheepsaysmeep. The player blocked N1. The only way he'd pull it off is with a strongman ta N1 which isn't strongmanned N3.

The scum wouldn't know to frame him, because they weren't in the nightmare.

Unless sheepsaysmeep is scum, relayed the plan to their partner, who acted N1 and N3 freely.
This seems rather unlikely.
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Post Post #3592 (isolation #259) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:00 pm

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In post 3590, Rautherdir wrote:Boom, headshot
In post 3591, Rautherdir wrote:I was very shaken by Ircher's flip but reasoned that my original planned action shouldn't be affected. I feel like I telegraphed that pretty hard.
So you're claiming to have shot camelCasedSnivy?
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Post Post #3595 (isolation #260) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:10 pm

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In post 3593, Rautherdir wrote:Yeh. Morning Tweet was town by claim, STD was only scum if Snivy was scum. Snivy was the obvious choice tbh.
I'm skeptical.
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Post Post #3601 (isolation #261) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:37 pm

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So Rauth question.

Why were you aiming for cult, not scum?
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Post Post #3606 (isolation #262) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:44 pm

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VOTE: Rautherdir
I actually think Rautherdir's more scum than DragonEater70. (Although I'll readily vote DE70 first, obv.)

As I figure it, most likely:
{Rautherdir, sheepsaysmeep, DragonEater70} like have the remaining scum.

If 3, then it's probably all of them.

If 2, then Rauth+sheep's more likely than Rauth+DE70;
Rauth+DE70's more likely than DE70+sheep.
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Post Post #3728 (isolation #263) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:10 am

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In post 3620, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 3575, Ranger wrote:
In post 3569, usesPython wrote:Ranger you should be safe to IC at this point since Cult's gone
I want the masons to approve first.
I'll sign off on it. Only thing that could cause a problem is a second cult at this point, but I doubt that to be the case
Alright, game's apparently over, yet just in case it isn't, sending in my day action now.
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Post Post #3729 (isolation #264) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:11 am

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(I might've lied about one or two things.)
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Post Post #3741 (isolation #265) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:08 am

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In post 3729, Ranger wrote:(I might've lied about one or two things.)
In about 8 hours, I can compile the full list.

The scum conceding got in the way of me having fun. :(

Everything I claimed except being Unique was a lie.

There was no IC, doctor, or chess game. I made it all up.

I did have a day action though!
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Post Post #3809 (isolation #266) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:16 pm

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Spoiler: full list;
In post 67, Ranger wrote:
D
octor
R
anger here.
E
xpect a
W
in.
Kyoko caught the 'Doctor' half here. I'm surprised nobody noticed the capitalization spelled out D R E W. This was layered 'crumb meant to say Doctor Drew.

was obvious.
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I
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In post 150, Morning Tweet wrote:Ranger is automatically scum for putting STD at the bottom then switching him to the top when he asked nicely
Hey, I
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what I want to.
STD asked, and I wanted to honor his request!
This was setup. If someone asked me for the right favor, I was planning to grant their request by using my power on them.
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In post 479, Doctor Drew wrote:I hope you are going to pay me royalties for using my likeness.
What kind of payment do you want?
In post 598, Ranger wrote:
In post 564, Doctor Drew wrote:Honestly just once want to be at the top of your list, even just once.
Payment accepted.
By pure coincidence, the person asking me for the right favor was Doctor Drew. I decided the payment for using Doctor Drew's likeness would be forcefully adding him. When I said 'payment accepted', it meant, "I have used my power on you".
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In post 592, Abnegation wrote:
In post 591, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 590, Abnegation wrote:
In post 571, Rautherdir wrote:Half+1 of everyone I think have Doctor Drew included in a proposal right now, so....
We don't want to put everyone in but uh.... Well, I guess we have one person already confirmed in now, so.
i only counted 8, majority is 10.
i don't think that's even how the voting system works. i'm pretty sure what korina said was that you get confirmed to be in the nightmare by being in a proposal (not multiple proposals) that reaches majority.
my impression of it was that someone put doctor drew in there via day ability. idk if i like that.
I'm waiting on the VCs to know for sure, but if this is the case I want Drew dead.
i did also get the feeling that this is a scummy ability if that's what it is.
my count was looking at the last vc and then counting any hurt tags for proposals containing drew before the point that he was confirmed, which was none if i counted right. official vcs would be good though.
In post 639, Korina wrote:
Morning Tweet has been forcibly confirmed to Run The Nightmare tonight! VC to reflect this, and a normal VC later tonight.

Any additional votes cast on MT will not count, and any unvotes for MT will not count.
In post 560, Korina wrote:This is a mod announcement Doctor Drew has been confirmed to Run The Nightmare™️ tonight. All future proposals do not need to include Doctor Drew, and will automatically include him.

All current proposals will be amended to include Doctor Drew when I’m done with work.
It's definitely the same ability.
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In post 606, Merlyn wrote:Is there any significance to the fact that MT's says 'forcibly confirmed' and Drew's doesn't?
I'd assume the slight differences in the nightmare mechanic.
How would I know it's exactly the same ability unless it were my own? The speed of my response should've also been a clue I was dialed in.
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In post 799, Morning Tweet wrote:Why did you italicize this? i saved this as a crumb
To emphasize the pun.

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This was both me saying "I have no regrets", as well as specifying I had another shot.
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In post 848, usesPython wrote:It's literally the only persons name she's punned all game
Yes, I went into this game deciding to make Doctor Drew puns. Just 'cuz.
This was true, but I left out the reason why I decided to make them just 'cuz, which was having his role from the previous game.
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hinted at my being responsible, as the reason Doctor Drew being forcibly confirmed didn't impact my read at all is because I was the one who forcibly confirmed him.
In post 1075, Ranger wrote:I decided to have fun with a minor Doctor Drew emphasis. Just 'cuz.

I've already shared more than I intended by stating I've no ties to Doctor Drew. I've stated my puns were for fun and I've no ties to Doctor Drew.
This was more hinting I used the role for fun.
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this game
.
In post 1097, Ranger wrote:I've said I have nothing in my role PM relating to Doctor Drew
this game
is all you get.
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last
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Post Post #3810 (isolation #267) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:22 pm

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In post 3742, Radical Rat wrote:Damn it, you did put Drew in the Nightmare didn't you?
Guilty. :P

Ever since you made this post,
In post 680, Radical Rat wrote:if it WAS Town that did it, they'd better have a damn good excuse.
I had my full plan.


I was going to fakeclaim IC, wait for you specifically to ask me to reveal, use my second shot to forcibly add myself to the nightmare, and then quote , answering what my "damn good reason" was.
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Post Post #3811 (isolation #268) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:27 pm

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In post 3752, DragonEater70 wrote:Also why did you lie?
Why not? Lying's fun.
In post 3793, Doctor Drew wrote:Ranger, why did you put me in the Nightmare?
As I was going to assure Radical Rat, I had the best reason of all for putting you in then fakeclaiming:

It was funny.
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Post Post #3813 (isolation #269) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:35 pm

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Essentially, I figured with the change to the nightmare mechanic this game, my power was useless. Since I figured there was no +town usage of it, I decided to have fun. I breadcrumbed having the role by Doctor Drew puns as it was his role last game.

At the time I used it, the leading proposal was everyone in the nightmare; I figured if everyone was going in, my power wouldn't change anything. By total coincidence, I decided to impulsively use it on Doctor Drew, because he asked for payment and I decided to give it. I figured I could get away with it, by merit of my play revealing my alignment. Confident in my play being +town, I assumed my fakeclaim would be harmless, so I decided to get creative and have fun.

I knew when I revealed I would likely eat a mislim despite my play, yet was willing to pay the price, because the payoff would've been #worth.
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Post Post #3815 (isolation #270) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:40 pm

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In post 3812, Doctor Drew wrote:Lol, second game in a row you lied as town.....this time worked out a bit better.

Also, I like this trolling Ranger.
I lie whenever I feel it's not detrimental and I've the inspiration. (I can only lie if I have an idea of what I want to claim as a lie, I don't always have a muse providing this service.) This is actually my fifth game in a row lying, although one was a fairly tame transparent gambit. I'm actually planning on running a game called "Roles Ranger has fakeclaimed", which would apply artistic liberties to my fakeclaims. Those five games have enough material to fit a mini, because each fakeclaim can be used to create 2-5 different roles.
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Post Post #3820 (isolation #271) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:05 pm

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Korina wrote:Unironically I hope Ranger endgames with her claim
And then I did. :P
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