Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gamma

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gamma

VOTE: Gamma

Why Gamma?

Why not Gamma?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gamma

VOTE: Gamma

Why Gamma?

Why not Gamma?

Why Gamma?

The answer lies in the question.

[PenguinPower]

So do you have a reason not to be voting everyone else?

Does anyone?

[PenguinPower]

I'm asking you. You said the answer was in the question: "Why not Gamma?" - I think you're implying you have not seen any reason not to vote

Gamma

, so I'm asking if you

have

seen any reason not to vote everyone else. You chose Gamma for some reason and are avoiding the questions

Am I avoiding the question or trusting your innate insight will lead you to the proper answer?

[PenguinPower]

What does this mean?

I trust you to figure it out.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: cakez

[PenguinPower]

are we all kinda thumb twiddling waiting on someone to actually do something lol

Vc here tomorrow

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

SURE DUNN

VOTE: penguinower

<3

Pretending like I don’t walkways have lame posts.

tybb

[PenguinPower]

*always

[PenguinPower]

Vc here tomorrow

Warmpup. I’m gonna need a bit more from you.

[PenguinPower]

SURE DUNN

VOTE: penguinower

<3

Pretending like I don’t walkways have lame posts.

tybb

Some games your lame posts are at least funny

I’ll try to do better. Out of practice.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: jjh

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VOTE: ssbm_kyouko

[PenguinPower]

I have yet to actually see PP play wolf w/o lurking so if they have an active thread presence then that probably points towards them being town unless their actions have blatant wolf motivation

tbf my early scum career was much more active and I have a normal game or two from the early 20s where I wasn't either (but i was pretty much forced to by circumstances). Otherwise, you're mostly correct.

[PenguinPower]

pls don't read into penguinpower's votes dude sheeps the biggest wagon d1 every game

So not true.

Sometimes I intentionally make counterwagons to the largest wagon.

[PenguinPower]

you are incapable of town reading me and actively look for reasons not to\

it's ok.

[PenguinPower]

you are incapable of town reading me and actively look for reasons not to\

it's ok.

So are you saying you do have an active thread presence this game?

I'll leave that to others to decide.

You’ll disagree no matter what I say so it’s fairly pointless.

[PenguinPower]

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what's interesting is you stating that ali said i was active and town when that is not true...guess that must be a natural conclusion?

[PenguinPower]

Yes Alisae basically did say that

No.

if

they have an active thread presence then that probably points towards them being town

and a good number of your posts are complaining that the mod isn't providing vote counts

One - if you stretch the definition of complaining

deflecting

weird interpretation of what i was doing - but one i expect from you towards me given my experience with you over the years

You trying to paint me as I'm somehow tunneled on you

Never did this.

No I'm not ignoring information that would show you are town.

Never said you were this game.

Your natural conclusions are SUPER on point. gj.

[PenguinPower]

That was a meta statement that spans a long time and a multitude of games. It doesn't mention this game or his read on me this game at all.

[PenguinPower]

deflecting

weird interpretation of what i was doing - but one i expect from you towards me given my experience with you over the years

What would you say you were doing? I think deflection is an apt description.

[PenguinPower]

If you think I need to deflect that early in the game I can't help you.

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...this is, in itself, deflection. Instead of answering a simple question you try to make the other party look dumb and change the topic.

that...

that was the answer....

it's a meme of what i was doing at the beginning of the game...i was memeing....

like...are you for real?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Big Chungus Gaming

[PenguinPower]

I don't get what you are doing then. You started off saying that me calling your posts deflection was a weird interpretation, but then turned around and said that was correct?

I never said it was correct...wut? like...in the post you just quoted I said I was meming.

I lgeit have no idea how you interpret things and I think it's best if we stop interacting at this point.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Big Chungus Gaming

now I can get behind this

why'd you call out my vote specifically?

[PenguinPower]

[Big Chungus, Luka, Pooky, Alisae, Whemestar] <- Confident Towns
[Sakura, Penguin, Klick] <- Second Tier Towns
[JJH, Ceph, T3] <- Everybody else not listed
{Dunnstural, Kaiwaii} <- Scum Lean
[Gamma, Save the Dragons] <- Scums

[Big Chungus, Luka, Pooky, Alisae, Whemestar] <- Confident Towns
[Sakura, Penguin, Klick] <- Second Tier Towns
[JJH, Save the Dragons]] <- Above Null
[Ceph, T3] <- Null
{Dunnstural, Kaiwaii} <- Scum Lean
[Gamma, Cakez] <- Scums

?

what changed in two minutes?

[PenguinPower]

fair enough

what happened in two minutes that led to you changing your reads

[PenguinPower]

How's it feel penguin? Feels pretty good from where I'm sitting

i think you'll find i am pretty much unimpacted

[PenguinPower]

How's it feel penguin? Feels pretty good from where I'm sitting

Now I feel pretty good.

[PenguinPower]

(expired on 2023-12-28 21:06:51)

[PenguinPower]

one minute to spare

[PenguinPower]

had to go grab that stupid cup of coffee...

meh

[PenguinPower]

(expired on 2023-12-28 21:06:51)

one minute to spare

What was this btw?

Warmpup promised a vc within 10 minutes. I made a countdown.

[PenguinPower]

VC in 13 years

4609 days, 15 hours, 5 minutes

[PenguinPower]

VC in 13 years

Sad Penguin Says: Warmpup made me sad.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

Pooky - imma need you to hop on this wagon with me.

[PenguinPower]

And anyone else who would like to. That’s fine too.

[PenguinPower]

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Hey, it's clear that people outside of cakez, PP, and Dunn, are not buying your extremely weak arguments.

bold of you to assume i've read anyone's argument.

[PenguinPower]

the level of respect you have for your game and i have for your game are drastically different

congrats for not answering the question must take alot of ard work

people really underestimate how much work it takes to not answer questions.

i appreciate you std.

[PenguinPower]

I think I've been left off your list like 3 times now

[PenguinPower]

VC HERE IN A HOUR

[PenguinPower]

oh i forgot to include a vote rofl VOTE: penguinpower

You forgot because it was made up.

[PenguinPower]

Penguinpower - an actual batman villain (The Riddler)

But...I'm a penguin...

[PenguinPower]

I have literally no idea how to read Gamma, but Kyouko, if she's a super confident SR, why would you rather eliminate Cakez first? (Judging by your current vote)

good question.

well done.

[PenguinPower]

Well this sudden wagon on pooky makes me uneasy.

same.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: dunn

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:
But wait a minute, Dunn's last post was 1313 which was a while ago.
I dont think the Cakez wagon has rematerialized yet at this point has it?

why didn't you go back to cakez?

[PenguinPower]

mmm

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gamma

[PenguinPower]

chipotle is ass why did they charge me for extra steak when I didn’t ask for it

bud...the is a well known thing recently. they skimp and charge extra wherever they can

[PenguinPower]

Did you do the math for one of his recent town games?

[PenguinPower]

This math convo couldn't interest me less

it interests me insofar as it's meaningless work and i want it to continue

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: jjh

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: jjh

I think I remember reading somewhere that jjh is a lurksack as scum
Idk if it's true or not but it's verifiable and I can do it tonight
Unless someone wants to do it for me

[PenguinPower]

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VOTE: dunn

[PenguinPower]

kinda wanna vote cakez. What’s the vc rn?

[PenguinPower]

Oh sad. Nvm. Maybe later.

[PenguinPower]

Oh lol I’m the competing wagon now. Cool.

[PenguinPower]

[Save the Dragons, PenguinPower, pookythemagicalbear]

THE UNIT

[PenguinPower]

yeah...that's e-1 but ok

[PenguinPower]

well then...nvm

[PenguinPower]

first of all - rude

second of all - the trial makes my vote today pretty easy to determine

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

oooh - spicy

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: No Elimination

dunno we can do this

p-edit

seems you've realized that too

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: no elim

but i guess we can try?

[PenguinPower]

oh

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scum gladiating two people and including one of their own seems overly risky, yes.

[PenguinPower]

So here's where im currently at:
Gamma is confscum, Pooky is very high chance of being scum and PP/Cakez/T3 are like lean-scum for me right now.

I vibe with this list

(other than me)

[PenguinPower]

first of all - rude

Just buisness

[PenguinPower]

sorry to disappoint

[PenguinPower]

My pattern of voting was either to create the largest wagon or a counter wagon to the largest wagon.

I do that D1 as either scum or town so stop acting like you can discern alignment from it.

[PenguinPower]

Idk - ask the people who are able to read me with pretty good accuracy.

[PenguinPower]

that was more of a jab at cakez faking his reasoning than anything else btw

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

4 seconds. Dammit.

[PenguinPower]

For clarity…are these gifs of the spinoff chibi anime or did you just inappropriately shorten the name of the actual anime?

[PenguinPower]

I mean the evidence points to the former…but…

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: luka

Nobody puts me in jail and gets away with it.

[PenguinPower]

everyone's posted though

[PenguinPower]

luka was mean to me

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gamma

[PenguinPower]

Well i guess i should probably claim and explain, specially since im probably dying next.

i mean - yeah - that would be nice since all i got right is "trust me"

[PenguinPower]

Sakura is town beyond town so a trust me from her suffices

i'm happy for you

[PenguinPower]

I understand it’s obviously shitty to let gamma slot be replaced going into night but pooky has to go and at this point it’s not because it’s pooky. It could be anyone and it would still be correct to kill that slot > gamma

ELI5

[PenguinPower]

wild that pooky killed std

w i l d

and a bit mean

but yeah, sounds like gamma > pooky order is best

[PenguinPower]

meh.

[PenguinPower]

Refuse to vote pooky

[PenguinPower]

granted

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: party boat

[PenguinPower]

Speaking of:

Diabolus Cult will have day talk. The Diabolus cult may continue discussing the game with their comrades after their death (they will not be added to spectator thread)

Pooky is still helping their team btw.

mostly defeats the purpose of pooky first from a lot of perspectives but hey, yay

[PenguinPower]

I've only been vocal about scumreading T3 and PP, however it's possible at least one of those is town.

[PenguinPower]

I think jjh has been very much talking like he's town today and yesterday and I'm inclined to trust his T3 read

I think Penguin/Wheme/tired person wins the game

I think you're almost as bad as Dunn wrtm

[PenguinPower]

tbf I don't disagree with the other two

[PenguinPower]

'lol klick bad tunnel' is all well and good but even better would be showing me how I can understand that you're town

Buddy - I’ve already answered this and I can’t answer it any better.

[PenguinPower]

bingle are you scum?

[PenguinPower]

yes yes but i don't really care what klick says

i want to hear it straight from the bingle's mouth

[PenguinPower]

cool - then you can just not comment on it and let it happen

[PenguinPower]

That sounds... stupid. Do you think Bingle's gonna come and say "Yes i'm scum"?
I'm always confused why people ask these things.

PP is more interested in how I answer than what I answer. It's a vibe check, and one I fully intend to fail miserably.

Bingo.

[PenguinPower]

Hmm. Klick can be right.

[PenguinPower]

Second question.

Do you plan on catching up?

[PenguinPower]

No worries. “I do” was enough.

Curious to hear your take.

[PenguinPower]

Nah, there’s a hard guilty on the party boat via townflipped std. we just went for claimed guiltied pooky (via Sakura) because pooky is scary.

[PenguinPower]

Also scum would vanilla sakura given the call out on pooky

[PenguinPower]

Order of events on the second one are wrong but yeah.

[PenguinPower]

There is point in voting outside of party boat, actually
If scum are indeed limited to using one of their factional powers per player, then we would be in a better position mechanically if we voted out a different scum player in this day phase

Depends on roles though

uhh no

[PenguinPower]

Always. Eliminate. Known. Scum. First

uh...yes

[PenguinPower]

This ALSO reminds me, that i made an oof, i know that kyouko wasnt visited by BCG so she couldnt have received the neighborizer, woops, i guess i got too focused on pooky that i forgot.

what? did i miss where you said that she did?

[PenguinPower]

gotta agree with cakez

[PenguinPower]

Prodding Penguinpower.

Acknowledged. Should have gone v/la as i've been traveling this week, but will be back home tonight.

I have to admit I'm not sure where I'm at rn...D1 EOD wagons were both on town (fmpov); d2 was a gladiate on two town; and then d3/d4 were yeets on mechcatches....my usual avenues for info are occluded due to disengagement and lack of wagons.

will look back on d1 tonight.

[PenguinPower]

lol - your trajectory on me is bad. Penguin is scum but that largely relies on wheme being scum -> penguin doesn’t make any new posts -> nevermind penguin is now just scum for *reasons* -> oh god people are voting me I guess now’s the time for me to vote penguin.

[PenguinPower]

Wait penguin is town

Wait why?

[PenguinPower]

Yeah…idrc about hidden conversation.

[PenguinPower]

Continue not to share. That’s fun.

[PenguinPower]

lol @ pooky protecting me. I’m almost never a day 1 yeet as either alignment and I almost never endgame as scum.

[PenguinPower]

All I got from that long wall was weak reasons for scum reading me except that you’re the main wagon and I’m the counter and THAT, my friend, is scummy.

Still want to think Bingle is scum though.

[PenguinPower]

Hmm…ok.

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lol @ pooky protecting me. I’m almost never a day 1 yeet as either alignment and I almost never endgame as scum.

At one point near the end of day 1 you were at 6 votes to Dunn's 7, I know that the main reason I (and I believe Sakura too) avoided voting you for a while was because I looked at what Pooky said and bought it. If Pooky hadn't said that then the momentum may very well could have shifted to your wagon and you could have been limmed

Then make me your last mislim and reeval with my understanding they were both town wagons.

Idgaf

[PenguinPower]

Solid page top.

[PenguinPower]

Btw I would vote t3 here if it wasn’t e-1.

[PenguinPower]

Fair warning, now that Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth is out, my time for mafia is gonna be reduced, i'll still at least read and post once a day tho

This applies to me as well.

[PenguinPower]

There's a good point about dueling wagons on D1 making PP likely scum.

If this is a thought that your going to keep thinking then its best to lim me today instead of in elo.

[PenguinPower]

That's e-1, not a hammer btw

[PenguinPower]

That's e-1, not a hammer btw

What is the point in saying this when you could have not said so and done a reaction test

Because if Sakura thought it was the hammer she would just disappear to play Yakuza instead of continuing to participate (also it's a weak reaction test).

[PenguinPower]

That's e-1, not a hammer btw

What is the point in saying this when you could have not said so and done a reaction test

Because if Sakura thought it was the hammer she would just disappear to play Yakuza instead of continuing to participate (also it's a weak reaction test) since I already said it was e-1 on this page.

ebwop

(i miss my edit button)

[PenguinPower]

No, I said I would vote you if it wasn't the e-1 vote.

[PenguinPower]

eh - i see how that could be interpreted differently

[PenguinPower]

Right…but now if I voted jjh would be mad at me.

[PenguinPower]

Hrm

[PenguinPower]

Kinda hard to since they just seem to want to vote park me.

[PenguinPower]

Although they’re on t3 now?

[PenguinPower]

For now back to the Yakuza rabbit hole i go.

Already at the end of chapter 2

[PenguinPower]

You keep saying that yet you say more.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: t3

[PenguinPower]

i know

there was a great internal struggle and my impatience won

[PenguinPower]

plus now i get to play yakuza all weekend without having to check the game

[PenguinPower]

So it turns out I wasn't actually as annoyed about the t3 elimination as I thought I'd be

i will be here at some point, however my yakuza animal crossing island needs me right now

[PenguinPower]

boy - i five star my island and no one else has posted...amazing

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

I’m going to be very clear here….if anyone continues to suspect me at this point, after everything that has happened and all of the flips that we have had - I’m am only going to respond to you via gif.

Because you deserve nothing more.

[PenguinPower]

jjh and t3 claiming to be neighbors when both are scum makes me smile

[PenguinPower]

jjh > PP > Cakez > TP > Bingle

[PenguinPower]

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Anyway back to Yakuza for me.

[PenguinPower]

Waiting for jjh or bingle to do something.

[PenguinPower]

Also playing yakuza.

Sujimon. Gotta catch em all.

[PenguinPower]

Well then. Let’s just move on.

VOTE: jjh

[PenguinPower]

Acting like the game is "autowin" in a situation like this is dangerous

I do agree with this. I don't really agree with anything else you said.

Oh, except this.

I was heavily wrong on T3 and you limmed there in spite of me, so who knows- maybe you'll get the last scum

[PenguinPower]

vote for no lim

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: no elim

[PenguinPower]

yeah - no

i'm probably going to vote you

[PenguinPower]

yeah - no

i'm probably going to vote you

i don't think you have even a single valid reason to think i am scum. if you are scumreading my low-content playstyle, not only is that hypocritical of you but i also have completed town games where i play that way so that's invalid. i also don't have any partnered interactions with scum.

can u even name a reason to vote me?

i wasn't scumreading your playstyle but thanks for assuming.

ceph's play around pooky and gamma d1, whilst everyone else says is clearing, I think is the opposite given how he had a weak tunnel on pooky then was like "yeah, maybe i'm wrong." then is like, "yeah gamma scum i'll hop on" but then once gamma starts to take off vs. dunn hops off and says he feels "uneasy" and uselessly votes pooky until he peaces out.

what does give me pause is your play around t3's wagon because you easily could have gotten me pushed out that day since sakura was equally willing to vote either me or t3 and only voted t3 because he was the larger wagon.

you obnoxiously saying you're clear isn't ai, just obnoxious.

but then jinglebingle thinks you're scum over sircakez and i want to be lazy and just agree.

so i guess i'm gonna not be lazy and read cakez iso

[PenguinPower]

i had my first go are color coding d1 votecounts and then my browser quit on me...i'm done for now.

[PenguinPower]

it looks like the end of day 1 Dunn wagon was almost all town, only Pooky and Penguin (who is TBD) on there everyone else is flipped town
Gamma and TP were on Penguin who was the CW

hmm

Why didn’t you say TP was TBD?

[PenguinPower]

that's not clearing evidence and i'm not going to comment further on that rn

i'm about to just vote you for saying how "clear" you are multiple times and then disappearing and not really caring about the outcome after that.

[PenguinPower]

nothing to say on my actual response to why i thought you could be scum?

[PenguinPower]

given, ya know, you asked me first?

[PenguinPower]

you are scumreading me for playstyle and it's annoying.

again...no i'm not.

[PenguinPower]

but i can say you shouldn't clear sircakes either because he also ended up voting you over pooky on day 1 and also you over t3 on day 5 and if you are town then it's crazy to me that you think i'm scum for "distancing" but sircakes isn't.

i haven't cleared cakez and i never said i did. jingle did. klick did. sakura did. i didn't.

i still need to read cakez, but this weekend was busy so i didn't.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: tired person

if it's cakez i blame klick, bingle, and sakura.

but i am tired of this person.

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

why cakez over me? I thought you were leaning me?

[PenguinPower]

also - see me not hammering

[PenguinPower]

penguin can u give me like an hour to build a big case on sircakes?

sure

[PenguinPower]

cakez - help me understand the motivation for scum!tp to hop on t3's wagon instead of me?

[PenguinPower]

but i think the difference is that cephrir really did try to eliminate gamma/pooky but gave up when he didn't have support (and u can see it by looking at his iso)

Spoiler: ??????

Having invaded the base that his sister was held at. The seven shadows made quick work of the dastardly cultist. Our hero however managed to...get lost on his way. Somehow he still managed to run into one of the cultist and kill him and save his sister.

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.17

Gamma Emerald [4][E-5] - Klick, Penguinpower, ssbm_Kyouko, Cephrir,
Dunnstral [3][E-6] - PookytheMagicalBear, Luka, Sakura Hana,
Alisae [3][E-6] - SirCakez, KawaiiKame,T3,
Whemestar[1][E-8] - Big Chungus Gaming,
jjh927 [1][E-8] - Alisae,
ssbm_kyouko [1][E-8] - Save The Dragons,
Save the Dragons [1][E-8] Whemestar
T3 [1][E-8] - Gamma Emerald,
Big Chungus Gaming [2][E-7]-Dunnstral,

Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : jjh927,

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-07 15:45:00)

Mod Note: No current prods. The mod thanks pooky for supplying images so easily.

deadline is approaching and im against a dunn kill atp, I think he has demonstrated enough plausibility of being town here and gamma is the only other viable option here and i am likely to be busy this weekend.

VOTE: gamma

willing to flashwagon onto PP, so consider my vote there in spirit.

Cakez is probably viable as an option
Late-day votes are funzo and I'd go jjh as a flash wagon (and Penguin if it existed)

I'm fairly happy with Gamma vs Dunnstral though

Feeling uneasy about gamma

VOTE: jjh

[PenguinPower]

bleh - i hate making this decision

[PenguinPower]

meh - that doesn't really motivate me, but thanks.

[PenguinPower]

oh fuck - pooky is still in the scum pt

[PenguinPower]

i just remembered that

[PenguinPower]

now i definitely hate this

[PenguinPower]

idk - my thoughts today seem to line up with jinglebingle especially wrt ceph/pooky interactions then there's the gamma v. dunn wagon that ceph hopped off. i also have to say that snap vote on cakez when i voted tp gives me gut scumpings given the post right above my vote.

i'm going to trust in the bingle and not sit here with growing anxiety for the rest of the day.

VOTE: tired person

p-edit

yeah, i know, that's what i've been wrestling with for the past thirty minutes

[PenguinPower]

i blame bingle, klick, and sakura.

[PenguinPower]

BINGLE DIDN'T WRITE IT

FUCK YOU POOKY

[PenguinPower]

i feel so lied to

[PenguinPower]

thanks for modding warmpup

[PenguinPower]

i blame bingle, klick, and sakura.

You still think PP is scummy despite EOD yesterday?

i dunno anything anymore, all i know is that TP and Bingle are most likely not scum, any of the other 3 could be, but im more positive on jjh than you or PP,

if all of you think PP is very unlikely to be scum then we can just bin him as town together with TP and Bingle and it becomes a you vs jjh with 1 miselim remaining, a.k.a autowin.

So why are you blaming me again?

if it's cakez i blame klick, bingle, and sakura.

I. am. not. being. serious.

Also, update your will next time.

[PenguinPower]

I don’t think them editing the will should have swayed any minds though

i mean sure - assuming you're reading something from a confirmed strong town player shouldn't have any impact on the game

[PenguinPower]

I didn't think that scum would be able to modify the will as that seems like a bastard ability to me

[PenguinPower]

I mean sure he’s confirmed town but since when do town ever go back in thread and take confirmed towns advice

not me thinking i was doing exactly that

[PenguinPower]

i am hating myself because when i saw cakez point to the will in my p-edit and remembered pooky could still be active my immediate thought was "it's cakez and I'm being fucked with"

but then i hit submit again...

[PenguinPower]

Don't think it's a bastard mechanic because the mod never implied the last wills were always written by the person that died? (may need to double check that)

I mean it says:

Bingle left a last will:

[PenguinPower]

yeah, that's fair

[PenguinPower]

very good

[PenguinPower]

PP hope u will reflect upon what it is you could have done better if this is something that aligns with your goals!

Certainly be more specific rather than vague if your goal is actually to help me improve!

[PenguinPower]

I think you could probably see benefits from being townier maybe?
Seeing you blame someone else immediately just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I didn't actually say anything specific because I'm not sure you were in the market for it

As I already said…I wasn’t being serious about blaming anyone. Full on own my decision.

[PenguinPower]

get out of my head pooky