Mini 1700: Space Mafia (Game Over)

[Firebringer]

First post, I win.

TIme to start this game:

VOTE: Blocky Man

Lets get this game rolling.

[Firebringer]

Lots of that post was nonsense. Vote blocky man, for he is a block! That is enough reason for it.

[Firebringer]

That nonsense is Thoreau! For shame, sir.

However, I see your point about Blocky Man's, shall we say, "blockiness". I have become concerned about it myself as of late. I will be keeping an eye on him and his unnatural cube shape.

lol this comment made my day.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Fraggernaut last to confirm.

Anyway has anyone actually seen early wagons become early mislynches or why do you fear it particularly now or what?

I think early lynches are generally bad, but no one on this train said "lets lynch this guy now" it was all pressure. I would like to hear more from Blocky his defense has been lack luster.

BTW its not RVS vote anymore, its now actual pressure.

It had five votes on it already, so of course I would fear a early mislynch happening especially if somehow scum were able to hammer it. Could it happen? I think it could if someone wasn't paying attention to the votes. It's always something to fear regardless if someone is just fishing for pressure reactions.

It could be a mislynch or just a lucky lynch on scum. So quick to think the worst. Possible cautious town or possibly scum trying to make sure his teammate doesn't get lynched. Making a note of your defense of Blocky, could be nothing. Or could be a scum indication later.

[Firebringer]

He wasn't over defensive but he still gave us a reaction. So that gave me literally nothing.

And yes I am on the fence a little because its very early to get any good reads.

I am keeping vote on Blocky though, till I see somethimg more scummy

[Firebringer]

I'm town.

That's all I have to say. Quick, easy to read, straight to the point and very informative.

You sure you are not scum?
Seems too convenient. . . .

[Firebringer]

@Garmr maybe it's the fact that I just really don't care if you read me scum? Theres that. Check the META on me,

I'm snarky regardless especially as town when someone has a completely wrong read on me as you do right now.

@Sword any other logic behind that vote?

I thought you were pushing a scum read on me but the language in bold suggest that you are treating me as town. What changed your view if you are reading me as town or if you still think I'm scum why would you think I would have to have read on you???



@fire bringer
His got 11 post what about his content after the initial one?

You asked for Blocky not Fraggernaut. Blocky has 6 posts and and only two with any 'content'. I have no opinion on Fraggernaut except he is try hard right out of the gate.

Pedit: Don't we all?

[Firebringer]

I have Fraggernaut leaning town right now. I don't think scum like to get so much attention on themselves this early into the game. Just from my experience but scum try to lurk first few pages I think.

[Firebringer]

This thread exploded a bit lol. Seems TvT with Fraggernaut and Garmr

[Firebringer]

Well dang. SwordMaster probably going to get night killed. Or who knows due to WIFOM. Maybe not.

I think that was a legit claim.

[Firebringer]

I am very worried that we have a train on someone who claimed Day 1. Feels like a scum wagon forming.
I honestly think Swords claim is legit and the people trying discredit are either bad town or just scum.

[Firebringer]

Posting fluff here,

How's it going?

[Firebringer]

no one latched on and voted scorpious/added to my case, i still think he's scummy

seriously tho read firebringer's iso and tell me that's town

Congrats on reading 5 posts and getting scum. Want a medal? For biggest fail of year?

I swear some players just make you want to hit your head against wall and quit.

[Firebringer]

Sorry hard to write on phone

Basically anyone who voted him. First person might have been doing reaction testing but the others easily could be opportunistic scum.

[Firebringer]

Like blocky literally sheeped his vote but I think that could just be bad town play

[Firebringer]

My vote is no longer Eva I said blocky voting sword was scummy already.

[Firebringer]

How is Redf town?

[Firebringer]

How is Redf town?

[Firebringer]

I am here to say hi.

Such a bad active lurkerer

I honestly don't have much to say so far. Blocky still seems most like scum.

[Firebringer]

I am here to say hi.

Such a bad active lurkerer

I honestly don't have much to say so far. Blocky still seems most like scum.

What is your opinion on the contrary arguments that have been raised

They are well written arguments.

No. Honestly Day 1 is a big hassle for me. Its just mass guess work and theory crafting. Day 2 is when you actually figure stuff out. I would rather us lynch Blocky right now then if Blocky is scum that gives us options and have us look at who defended them tomorrow.

Or reverse if town.

I prefer looking at voting patterns than actual post analysis, actions speak louder than words.

[Firebringer]

Don't forget to vote BlockyMan for president! That is what we are voting for right? Leader?

[Firebringer]

Okay going to continue as I am.

Read his posts if you see him as town, good for you. I don't.

[Firebringer]

Saying I am best lynching option then asking me to explain my actions.

It's like " yeah I think you are guilty so why don't you give me more information so I can interpret that to be proof of your guilt"

Yeah, no thank you.

[Firebringer]

I feel pretty sure you couldn't get the votes on me for Day 1 lynch on me.

Call it w/e I've seen players try it in other games. I have never been lynched day 1 in any mafia game from any source I have ever played.

Wanna try break my streak?

[Firebringer]

damn u sound pretty confident tbh

i will stop attacking u cause ur a boss and u never get lynched cause ur just that good at mafia

Yep.

Though being good at mafia and not getting lynched isn't really related unless you are mafia.


Also I sensed sarcasm in your tone but I will take the compliment anyway, I welcome your attacks knowing they will get you nowhere.

[Firebringer]

i have been owned

I find you mildly entertaining it would be unfortunate if you are mafia. I enjoy your snarky attitude.

[Firebringer]

Breaking someone's streak is as good of reason as any reason to day 1 lynch anyone.

Proves my point about day 1 lynches being arbitrary and random.

[Firebringer]

So you no response to 322 then?

Pretty much.

[Firebringer]

Or attempt to attract mafia to attack me tonight.

Or I am scum egging on a lynch that I don't think will happen.

Or I am PR egging caution on lynching me.

Any other theories? Also no contradictions I said blocky seemed scummy and voted that way and asked others to look at his posts.

[Firebringer]

You don't point out a quote and then say I am contradicting. Who exactly has the burden of proof?

Yes I support a lynch on Blocky.

Now can you give me quote of me saying anything to contrary?

Just because I'm not playing the way you like doesn't mean I am a troll. I am answering some questions so I am not anti town.

Anything else on me or perhaps want to look at blocky?

[Firebringer]

So you no response to 322 then?

Pretty much.

Are you flat out telling him you won't answer his question? And if so.. Why?

Great question! Actually not really lol

I don't answer questions that I feel are completely pointless or are going to enter me into a circle of questions.

For example you asking me another question about what I just said is a circle and I probably wouldn't reply unless my reply I felt needed to be said or would stop the questions.

Sometime I feel people in these games just ask questions to fill a void when they don't have anything to say themselves I am guilty of doing this quite a bit too so I don't expect answers to my fluff questions so I don't answer what I perceive as such also.

[Firebringer]

Fraggernaut you can't just keep repeating yourself and expect to be more true before. You say my RVS post and vote contradicts me now? What? You realize I tested blocky and then blocky appeared scum to me, right?

[Firebringer]

Scorpius you realize lawyers lead you into line of questioning to get the results they wanted. Not finding the truth they load questions and know the answers to them beforehand or they wouldn't ask it. So your analogy is terribad

Let me straw man a question for you:
What's your favorite color?

Ohh didn't answer? Scum!!!

Fraggernaut so me saying "vote how you please" or essentially if you don't believe he is scum don't vote is contradictory to me wanting a lunch on blocky and saying he is scum? When in that post I said I think he was scum? What world do you live in? Like honestly look up contradiction cause that nowhere applies here.

Unless I said don't vote blocky he is town I am not contradicting myself.

[Firebringer]

You made an analogy and I broke it apart showing you the faults with it.

If you thin all questions are valid and need to be answered w/e more power to you.
I just don't see the point in some of them. Especially ones that should be obvious, you want me to point out from here on what I think is a stupid/pointless question?

Also I never said I avoid all questions just pointless which I think I defined well enough for you to understand what I mean.

[Firebringer]

I welcome the votes.

[Firebringer]

Also fragger you never quoted anything which led to my own confusion on what specifically you were talking about.

Go look up contradiction after I get lynched. You don't know what it means.

Pedit: because they are bad town.

[Firebringer]

You know you are right.

Still wrong about me. 'Contradicting' myself. But you did quote me and then I did later misrep what you were saying. My bad.

[Firebringer]

I actually think Fire's playstyle right now is similar to Frag's town playstyle.

You still haven't convinced me you are town.

You also can't butter me up by calling me town.

[Firebringer]

I am until I flip town. Then maybe that will rethink all your reads tomorrow.

[Firebringer]

Yes I think the people voting me are town.

[Firebringer]

Right now:

Blocky man, glass canon (who we can't pressure right now)

And if I have to pick another devass slight scum lean

[Firebringer]

Well victor feels more active maybe I am blinded by his vote on me, if anything he is posting as much as yolo but at least he puts pressure where yolo is more lurkerish. Yolo I have null

Red putting more pressure on his vote then scum, scum like to sheep trains not lead them in my mind. Safer that way. Red is leading that train

I find lurker behavior suspcious but ism not going to lynch just because of that because I know town players who do that.

[Firebringer]

I've heard this argument literally dozens of times yet players still do it and they have reasons right or wrong.

I don't like it but I am not going to lynch them just for that

[Firebringer]

Lol any good interactions I have with anyone will equal my allies?

Probably since most of the player base is town and I am town lol

Red how about getting on blocky who looks. 10x more scum than me.

[Firebringer]

You didn't ask any.

I see zero question marks.

Pedit: sounds like typical dumb town, he could be trying to get in easy lynch I kinda doubt it though

Is that forced? Not good I enough? Too bad.

[Firebringer]

Victor and fragged battle is TvT so they honestly should stop.

Slandaar getting null read.

Blocky still looking scummy as hell

And scorpious just now realizing this? Welcome to the party.

[Firebringer]

Lol

Everyone who agrees with me is scum, look at blocky wagon it's filled with my buddies lol

[Firebringer]

I can't be lynched noob.

[Firebringer]

You think because you scream and shout like a child they will lynch me?

No.

You need charisma to get people to follow you.
You have none.

Not saying I have any either, but you don't see me pathetically waved hands asking them to lynch blocky.


You are bad town, get out of your tunnel and play the game. The longer this goes on the more they realize you are voting me cause you don't like me, not because you think I am scum.

[Firebringer]

I didn't say you had anything on me.

Your reasons are your own. I think they are much more valid than his.

Read red you can clearly see he made this personal.

I think you are wasting your time on me. I don't think I will be lynched today.

[Firebringer]

May I ask who you honestly think is my scum partners are?

You can't honestly think frag or scorp

[Firebringer]

Already answered who I though was scum, keep up.


Also not answering your question redf

[Firebringer]

My objective is to help town not myself.

I am a martyr for this town if need be.

[Firebringer]

He says that he has been suspecting me all game but says my playstyle was similar to someone who he read as town?

Look blocky you can easily say " I change my mind, fire bringer looks like scum" people like redf would accept just that.

Then saying that you suspecting it all game is just a blatant lie. Looks bad on you.

Try harder to look at least partially town.

[Firebringer]

Deas what actually looks scummy about me.

I remember you saying I would be good target for lynch instead of blocky but I have yet to hear reasons.

I can see you wanting a lynch to go through but what makes wagon on me better than blocky?

I called you scum and it really looks like you are being optimistic scum right now.

[Firebringer]

At least blocky is honest about wanting to lynch me to avoid himself being lynched.

Still think he is scum but he gets a honest point.

His other reason for calling me scum is complete bs, would like him to drop that pretense or actually analyze my play.

[Firebringer]

Garmr anything particular jumping out at you about gray? Or just general vibe of posts?

[Firebringer]

Btw I am at L-2 at this moment.

[Firebringer]

so rather lynch player who is more experienced than a player claiming to be newb?

So let's get it straight let's say for we are both town for sake of argument.

Who would you rather still be kicking and helping the town in later stages? Blocky or me?

I am not saying lynch blocky for being newb. If you look at his posts they contain almost no content and the reads he has given he has flipped, not to mention I don't buy he didn't know what Vigi is.

[Firebringer]

so rather lynch player who is more experienced than a player claiming to be newb?

I don't really care about this honestly.

This is why I think you are scum.

[Firebringer]

You realized you just destroyed your whole defense.

Everyone said you were newb town, you contradicted yourself.

I didn't think you were as newb as you pretended and it shows with this post.

Horrible scum is horrible.

[Firebringer]

so rather lynch player who is more experienced than a player claiming to be newb?

I love how you are calling me a newb yet I have played mafiascum longer than you and have played elsewhere before I signed up here.

I really would support a lynch on him. Frag is town as he is using what I believe to be his town playstyle. I really did not read Glass as scummy and gray has not given us much content, so I cant produce a read on that spot. redFF is leaning town put had two posts that I got a little suspicious about, however he did make some good points in a conversation with glass over voting and how it should be used earlier on. Fire has been very cocky and defensive. He has been overreacting to a lot of stuff as well, that's why my vote is on him. DeasVail has made a lot of good posts, and in my opinion, is the guy who has done the most scumhunting here. My next 1-2 posts will be the ones by redFF that made me suspicious.

Everyone read this.

[Firebringer]

I'll repeat my three scum reads:

DEavss for being what now seems opportunistic scum
Blocky being horrible scum contributing nothing then back peddling on few things he has said
Finally glass canon slot for being scummy and vanishing when pressure was in them, though he did get replaced so that might not be correlated,

[Firebringer]

We have given you opportunities, I honestly don't think we have been that unfair to you.

You dug yourself in a hole and didn't help yourself get out and yelling foul play.

Give reads of players. Play the game.

[Firebringer]

sword master shoot firebringer pls

is he even still in this game, been like 9 days since his last post

just shoot someone pls

How about shooting gramr if blocky flips scum?

You are so tunnel that you can't even observe what's going on.
Sword shoot me if flips town, idc

[Firebringer]

Should I still be shot if blocky flips scum?

[Firebringer]

We'll I kinda guessed that redf was scum.

I caused a mislynch on blocky.

I don't know what to say that I would understand a lynch on me now, but it would be mislynch so I would advise against it.

[Firebringer]

Hmmmmm I don't think fragged is scum.

Neither do I think that DV is either.

I want confirmation on night action before I consider voting .

[Firebringer]

Hmmm

You know what, I could see it.

VOTE: Doctor Vahlen

[Firebringer]

Hmmmmm I don't think fragged is scum.

Neither do I think that DV is either.

I want confirmation on night action before I consider voting .

Hmmm

You know what, I could see it.

VOTE: Doctor Vahlen

Firebringer can die too.

Of course I could die.

Seems over reaction to my vote though.
I still don't understand why target frag.

[Firebringer]

I believe Fragger over DV here. Gut feeling.

[Firebringer]

Does anyone besides this frsg and DV fight have strong reads on anyone?

[Firebringer]

Wow I should say docv instead lol

[Firebringer]

Small inaccuracies.

We'll kind of big misrepresentation of facts but w/e.

Still think frag is town.

DoctorV not so much.

[Firebringer]

Fragger's constant use of the word "town" and references to the "town win con" are pinging me hard. I just can't hold back anymore.

VOTE: Fraggernaut

God forbid a town player says town. Too much, this line of reasoning sounds so troll.

[Firebringer]

So if I say town a lot, I am scum.
Cool.

Town, town, town, town, town, town

[Firebringer]

Good points,

Except you assume they are lurking to avoid suspicion when they easily could be busy in RL.

Grasping straws.

They are active and will be back.

[Firebringer]

[quote="In post 786, Scorpious"]@Firebringer, Are you going to address 778[/quite]
No, not really.

That make me scum?

[Firebringer]

@Firebringer, Are you going to address 778[/quite]
No, not really.

That make me scum?

Not answering questions is very scummy. This is not the first time you have blatantly avoided answering something either.. How does this help town?

VOTE: Firebringer

You can policy lynch me all day, won't help you find scum.

Also it kinda makes you look scummy.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

You can strawman arguments and refuse to scumhunt, that doesn't make you any less scummy.

I deserve to he lynched anyway for screwing up with Blocky anyways.

Town is losing out of gates.

[Firebringer]

Also it kinda makes you look scummy.

Come on Fire join the wagon. You know it makes sense.

It does make sense.

VOTE: Scorpious

[Firebringer]

Scorpio is at L-2 for those interested.

Where is VC pls?

[Firebringer]

So other than "ok" and "that makes sense". Garmr and Fire,can you please give some more reasoning behind your votes on me?

I feel like your policy lynch vote on me was scummy and that you knew enough about my play style that you were misrepresenting it by saying it was unusual.

So get lynched scum.

Anything that resembles your towngame. All I'm seeing is scum desperate to save Firebringer and Fluggernaut.

Loloolololoolol

That was good laugh doctorv

[Firebringer]

You called for a fire ?

Cause I just brought it.

[Firebringer]

I thought day one scorpious was town but as of late I have had second guesses.

Behavior and vote on me almost feels forced.

[Firebringer]

I don't really blame town for lynching me if it comes down to it.

I still think scorp is better lynching target than me.

[Firebringer]

I prefer Fire to Scorp.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Firebringer

Will hopefully have a more substantial post tomorrow.

Cya then.

Maybe with some reads too.

[Firebringer]

I don't particular like the vote one me.

I see where it is coming from.
I will soon join blocky for him to yell at me in graveyard for being bad town. Sorry again blocky.

I shall see you soon!

[Firebringer]

Fragger has not been lurking all game.

Most active player = Lurking

If the most active player is a lurker, what the heck are we doing? Hardcore lurking?

[Firebringer]

I disagree he is active lurking, and no active lurking isn't the same.

[Firebringer]

So if I just fill the thread with pictures of alien innards, would that be useful?

Yes. That would tell us more than not posting anything.

[Firebringer]

I don't think scum would have his sass

Lol I have sass.

[Firebringer]

The Tvt fight here is entertaining.

Can we get in scorp now pls?

[Firebringer]

Hello people. Ill start reading here pretty quick but does any one have a good place to start so I dont have to go through pages of useless bullshit?

The two major wagons are me and scorpions. I would start there.

There was some fighting between Doctorv and frag you might want to examine also later.

[Firebringer]

You know what there's 5 days so let's at least give it a shot.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fraggernaut

There's time enough to return to either the Scorp/Fire wagon if this doesn't have enough support.

You don't seem confident in this vote with that last comment. Like it's reluctant vote .

[Firebringer]

Scorpio looks so desperate right now. Pls lynch him now.

[Firebringer]

And then the game goes quiet while we wait for him to flip scum.

[Firebringer]

the wait is killing me.

[Firebringer]

Mafia I request NK on me if scorp doesn't flip Mafia.

If he dies flip mafia...I guess you can still kill me lol

[Firebringer]

I believe in Garmr:
VOTE: Grayfox

[Firebringer]

Gman, tunnelling me means Flagger needs to content.

F, I am town. You are either today's lynch or dying tonight barring a lot of extraneous circumstances. You should produce reads as if I am town or scum.

I'm nilla town. Lynch me so you can make a actual good shot instead of wasting it on a nilla town with a donkey shot. As for reads.

My town circle consists of:

Deas, Garmr, & Doctor (still waiting to see the logic behind why you're conftown though)

Gray is null for me. I just don't know what to think of them. They've been odd.

The Yolo slot is also null for me.

My scum circle is:

Victor, HavingFitz & Fire.

I haven't mentioned this yet cause I've been sitting back & watching to see where it goes but Fire has been trying to pocket me for two days now. Anything I've said if you iso him he's instantly agreed with. He's been doing anything to buddy up with me.


UNVOTE: Doctor

You are one of my strongest town reads, so why wouldn't I want to be trying to work with you?

Also if Victor and Having are my circle you are saying both are bussing me? What?

Anyways:
I am V/LA till Friday site wide

Keeping vote where it is.

[Firebringer]

Conf Town:
Doctor Vahlen --> for obv. reasons.

Possible Town:
DeasVail, Garmr --> for voting Scorp early (bussing is still a possibility though)
Fraggernaut --> His confusion over facts and inability to understand details. More like a VI than scum.

Possible Scum:
Firebringer --> 1) his lead and push for blockyman at day 1 and his aftermath response looked non-geniune to me. Blocky was so obv VI imo that i can not see how an experienced player would pursue him 2) 1015 "the wait is killing me" looks artifical. 3) 1017 looks like he already knows the result.

I will iso the others. In the mean time you can ask me anything to get things faster.

VOTE: firebringer.

So bad. So very very bad. Why was I pushing a lynch so hard to lynch Scorp? To recover town cred?
Explain that to me now.

[Firebringer]

So bad. So very very bad. Why was I pushing a lynch so hard to lynch Scorp? To recover town cred?
Explain that to me now.

So do u claim you did not heard anything called "bussing"?
You were the other wagon, and a scum lynch was imminent. Why not bus your partner to gain town creds? Explain that to me now.

So scorp busses me and then I bus him. Thats so conveniant for your argument.
You got nothing on me.

I know you didn't check me. So you have no feedback to work with on that. You are just guessing hardcore and making bad assumptions.

Could have I been bussing? Of course.
Go back and read and tell me that it actually looks like a bus though.

The assumption on me is based on you assume someone bussed him and because of my blocky push day 1. Umm I remember I wasn't the only one to lynch blocky and scorp, so how about looking at those guys too.

[Firebringer]

Fragger honestly I dont get why you think I am scum. Is it because I have been "buddying" you or w/e.
I really think you are town.

[Firebringer]

The thing that worries me the most though is, If Im not the lynch & if we lynch Fire, GrayFoxx, or Shaded & they flip town; Then Doctor is going to make a horrible Vigi shot on me & we'll be down two more town going into tomorrow.

In mafia, if your scared to make a lynch for fear of hitting, then your never going to get anywhere.

Fear is a good device for avoiding making mistakes if its in reasonable amounts.
I mean you wouldn't want someone who didn't give a fuck all game to lynch happy everyone. right?

Sure but all you're essentially saying is that if we lynch town today, and then vig town tonight, we're in a worse position as a consequence.

To which I don't know how to respond beyond, No shit sherlock!

Meh. That wasn't the point. Essentially tonight Doctor if they're the real vigi, could throw this game for town. They're not reassessing a shot at all which makes me read them scummy.

Wait, DoctorV or doctor role?

I am guessing DoctorV, and I agree with you on this.
I still don't get why you are on me ;(

[Firebringer]

I would like to sub my main it. That's Titus.

Wait, your main is Titus? What?

[Firebringer]

Is this some weird meta play so we don't see Doctor as scum? I am so lost on why they are doing this.

[Firebringer]

I had a town feel from Havinfitz before, I guess I should ISO him more. You definitely gave me something to think about Deas.

[Firebringer]

Deasvail....look elsewhere. I think you're town so I'm not going to get all OMGUSy but the fact is..

.I do not bus as scum. I think in all my games I've only bussed once and the guy's lynch was inevitable.

iirc I had Scorp as a suspect before Slandaar gave his results.

And the point of Slandaar's you're echoing about not following you and him has already been addressed, in yesterday's twilight. I was on a wagon with 2 other town reads as well. No reason to give you and Slandaar preference. Especially given both your reads were/are crap wrt to me and I've played with you before.

tl:dr; look elsewhere.

Fragger and Grayfox need to be the next two pushes for elimination.

See the bolded part? That is what a scum would say when someone says they bussed a teammate.

The only times I have seen someone say "I don't bus my teammates" is when they are scum. Ive seen it in like 3 games. Never seen a town player claim they limit their scum plays. You do say you did once, but are you really saying that your scum play is predictable enough that you will limit your options in voting? What? No, that doesn't sound right.

VOTE: havingfitz

[Firebringer]

See the bolded part? That is what a scum would say when someone says they bussed a teammate.

The only times I have seen someone say "I don't bus my teammates" is when they are scum.

This isnt about you...it's about me. I've never said it before as scum.

What would you expect town to say?

Not "I don't buss my teammates"
I don't say that as town. Maybe I would say that I don't do it often.
Saying that you don't do it sounds desperate attempt to discredit the bussing case on you.

Which I have seen other players do. I don't think I have seen a town player say that phrase.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

Hmmm
Any specific reason for unvoting me?
I don't feel like theres anything I said that was rather convincing for you to unvote lol.

[Firebringer]

You are acting very erratic and it starting to concern my town read on you to be honest.
Usually erratic is good, but I don't know anymore.

[Firebringer]

@Fire Do you not find HavingFitz bring eratic as scummy as well?

He is not being as eratic, but he is giving of scum vibes.
The biggest was the way he described his scum play, which I think is a good way of fooling players often.
Especially by limiting your scum play to a very specific bit like "I don't bus teammates" thats very specific and would be too limiting for any scum to do.

[Firebringer]

Hey Titus what you think of Havingfitz?

[Firebringer]

@Havingfitz having a "clear meta on scum play" is no way a good way of playing. You are almost doing a "Truth Tell" by saying I don't do X as scum, so I am not obviously scum here.

Listen, you have played 30 games. Some as scum, I am sure not all of them were the same, right?
Maybe a few you thought, hey I don't need to bus in this situation. So, not going to bother.

Maybe you do hate bussing, or don't do it often.

The fact remains, this is a separate game, as ShadedMelee pointed out, just cause you don't do it often or once in however many games, doesn't mean you won't do it here. You are trying to gain our trust by telling your meta, and that scares me how you would define your scum play so narrowly to prove it.

I would never say "I don't do X as scum" cause first off, I would do ANYTHING as scum to prove my 'townieness'.

I will make crazy ass claims, I will buss my allies. I may even lie about my own playstyle if I think I can get away with it.

Your plays in other games no way confirms what you are doing here, it might be a good decent guide to understanding you, but I will not take it as 100% proof of anything.

[Firebringer]

I think we have a case of mod site flaking.
9 days since he last posted.....

Should we contact list mod?

[Firebringer]

So should we lynch or no lynch I'm a little conflicted myself?

ummm yeah.
I don't have a good read of anyone as scum in this group of players lol.
I would rather no lynch today. Unless anyone can make a compelling case on anyone.
I just get townvibes off everyone here.

[Firebringer]

So, I wanna apologize the havingfitz on that lynch lol.
You gotta know man, anyone who talks about their scum game like that has lied to me before, I didn't trust it.
>.>

VOTE: No Lynch

[Firebringer]

Is there any topics anyone wants to bring up before night phase

Is there anything specific you want to discuss?
Besides how much we all seem to suck.

[Firebringer]

I went back and realized something.
Fragg being scum actually makes perfect sense.

[Firebringer]

Gray had too much pressure on him yesterday to come swinging in here with that vote unless he was town.

Its way too risky, since most would catch onto that.

Although he couldve planned that out and went for a YOLO and hoped that one town misvoted for it to work...

[Firebringer]

This is LYLO so if theres another TPR they need to claim right now.

[Firebringer]

Sigh town is such donkey's.

Scum was so obvious. Smh. I'm done with this game.

Didn't like 5 posts ago you said
"I would support a fire lynch"

Like, if scum was SO OBVIOUS why were you supporting a lynch on a town?
Unless it wasn't obvious.

[Firebringer]

I was lost on this game, I honestly thought I had something with havingfitz. Then I tunneled into that and wasn't thinking.
I guess I am a idiot though lol