Micro 557 - Badass female u-pick - game over

[Suzune]

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

Been a while~

[Suzune]

Seriously, 20 questions. Who is in?

I'm in sounds fun~

[Suzune]

Is she from a movie?

Nope my character is not~

[Suzune]

Nah, she is not from tv. Although the series she is from got a tv show, she was not in it.

[Suzune]

Haha, no~

[Suzune]

Well, we will get there eventually. No~

[Suzune]

Oh, sorry~

Are you from a movie

and yes~

[Suzune]

Let's ask a million questions that have very little revelance to the game.

Were just playing

I will narrow the field. It is a currently on going book series.

[Suzune]

Nah, fun guess though.

The series I chose from currently has 15 books~

Cuddly, would you like to make some kind of opening move then. Personally I am having fun, but I realise it is helps not the cause.

[Suzune]

Since we are looking for something game related to talk about. I am curious, RC are you going to take Titus's gambit?

[Suzune]

Holy goodness, so many pages...

Catch up post coming....

Ok, your thoughts on why I am doing things this way rather than just flavor mass claiming?

It's fun. Let's you into the thought process of our reactions to the questions, thus lowing our inhibitions and making us more relaxed so that reactions are more natural. Just my impression?

Oh, and I think Suzune is from Chalet School series.

Nah, I'm from The Dresden Files. In hindsight Lara is much more badass then the character I chose, but alas, I like the one I did choose.

[Suzune]

Tone wise, this does not sounds like town Jeanne to me. I know that is odd to say, but something about this rings scummy. It is little to go off of right now, but it is how I feel about it. almost a notice me, I'm trying to be town. Rather then actually being town.

Titus is null for me right now. I want to think I am getting better at reading him, as to whether I am not not, I am unsure. I will wait a little more to see her.

Otherwise, currently I like CuddlyKitteh for town. What ever happened with RC. I am curious about her final decision about that early game gambit.

[Suzune]

I am kind of happy my analysis was correct.

I know it was a tv show. I said, while it was a show she did not appear in it. Was RPG one of the questions I was asked? As far as RPGs go it is not the greatest system but interesting in its own right.

Since no one will guess mine, I am Molly Carpenter.

[Suzune]

Something about this one looks less townie. Hard to capitlise on, but something is not the same about the tone. In the mini 1726 she was driven and determined that she was right. This one looks like baseless rambling. In the other game, she was adamant she was right. In this one she seems angry and attacks the other players more.

[Suzune]

This game and its posts...

LYNCH SCUM. LYNCH KITTEH. IF YOU'RE TOWN, YOU'D DO THIS.

Okay I like reasons. I will ask, why? Why do you feel this way? I'm sorry the entirety of page 15 either irritates me or frustrates me. You are not helping the town if you do not talk about what the town wants to hear about. I have trouble reading you because you get under my skin but the inability to want to talk about things is anti-town.

I have noticed that people have been saying their alignment. I assume a lie detector of some kind but I will play along...despite hating lie detectors.... I am town.

Loophole?

"I am town"

Long ago another host and I decided that posts like this with the quotes still or quoting someone else does not count as saying it yourself. It counts as copying what someone else told you to do. Therefore, it could be used to snake around you must say this claims. I do not know how that works on mafiascum but it puts me on edge.

I read Suzune by her engagement level. She pings me early and engages substantively little as scum.

Personally I feel quite engaged in this game...

I lack the evidence to back it, but I think Titus might be scum...

As to fire, while he is not contributing much to the game. I feel like this is usual townie fire. I would like to see something worth that decision though.

[Suzune]

You seem to misunderstand Jeanne. She could be scum, however, on the sliding scale of scumminess and towniness she happens to not land close enough to the scummy side for me. That does not mean I did not rate her.

p-edit: What information do you have to support that?

[Suzune]

Titus was also in that mini...

[Suzune]

Titus was also in that mini...

I wasn't exactly scumhunting you though. :p

You should have, would have looked more natural for us...

[Suzune]

Sorry off topic, we should carry on~

[Suzune]

Oh, oops. Where I am from we have beaten the lie detector-esque roles into the ground so I went on instinct. It was not my intention to ruin your plan. I thought I would help by bringing that would into the open.

[Suzune]

Can we put the fun back in mafia? Cause this game is no fun right now.

It has not been too terrible

[Suzune]

I'm kind of wondering why you jumped in on it when you're not one of the people I asked to do it. :S

Gut reaction. I have had some bad experiences with it, so when I saw it, I kind of jumped it.

[Suzune]

My read on Suzune vacillates with her engagement levels.

So you judge me on my free time. That's interesting

vacillates--New word for me~

[Suzune]

Scum
Frozen Jeanne
Titus
Elyse
CuddlyKitteh
TTH
Radiant Cowbells
Starbuck
Suzune

Null

I have no strong town reads.

So how does one read this. Everyone is scum? Are there varying degrees of scumminess or are you just not being helpful? At first I thought you were just being goofy you. However, I have started to strongly dislike this. You could have easily improved your towniness but instead you say things like this.

What is the vote count? Can I vote him without being the hammer right now?

Elyse I find it interesting that you only write long posts that have scumhunting in them when they are about fire. Almost all your posts so far have been about fire. It is an interesting observation, otherwise your posting style is not my favourite because you look locked in something and that seems so not townie to me. So how you feeling about other people?

[Suzune]

Also, Titus, you want me to listen to you and you're not listening to me?

I actually get the feeling that she is listening to you.

[Suzune]

I hate to be strange but, why post that Jeanne? newbie games have a different flow then regular games.

[Suzune]

What does she need to say to you she considered it. Maybe she did consider it and decided against it. If you want someone to change their read make a case for it. One that persuades action. Rather then complain about the fact they are not doing anything. Why impress Titus so much?

[Suzune]

I do not understand. You do not want to be lynched and are made at Titus. So you try to impress her by forcing your opinion with meta backing onto her. Then claim you are angry because you like your flavour? I mean the fix seems easy for this. Post less, think more, write more in one post, profit?

I do not think you are town in this game, so I will not make other playing suggestions. However, I think a fixated personality means that you are not weighing evidence. Not listening and observing is detrimental to the town, forcing your opinion without really any in game evidence is hard to take too. I do not care for meta and will not use it. So you could link every game you want and I will not read it. I know that meta can be manipulated so it interests me not.

[Suzune]

Also, you forget one very important thing. If you two are scum together, you two could have agreed in pregame to make it hard to read you should a situation like this arise.

Which two is this directed at?

Jeanne is kitteh your only scum read right now?

[Suzune]

Well, everywhere I go everyone has a high opinion of Titus.

I like Titus. She pressures me to play a better and better game. However, I suspect you are not the only one who would love to catch them at something. But as of right now, they are not high on my priority list.

[Suzune]

I want RC to say something too. She never answered my question and I am curious.

[Suzune]

I tend to lurk more if I do not enjoy the game. But if she is lurking in all the games, then maybe she really is just busy.

[Suzune]

You have a strong town preference don't you?

is this directed at me? If so the answer is now, I do not prefer one of the other, just my townie game is stronger now.

[Suzune]

Elyse I find it interesting that you only write long posts that have scumhunting in them when they are about fire. Almost all your posts so far have been about fire. It is an interesting observation, otherwise your posting style is not my favourite because you look locked in something and that seems so not townie to me. So how you feeling about other people?

I am townreading everyone else except RC and Starbuck.

Do you have varying degrees of towniness? I am only asking because recently I played a micro with three scum so I want to know how you are building your reads.

[Suzune]

Elyse I find it interesting that you only write long posts that have scumhunting in them when they are about fire. Almost all your posts so far have been about fire. It is an interesting observation, otherwise your posting style is not my favourite because you look locked in something and that seems so not townie to me. So how you feeling about other people?

I am townreading everyone else except RC and Starbuck.

Do you have varying degrees of towniness? I am only asking because recently I played a micro with three scum so I want to know how you are building your reads.

Wait Elyse, what about fire? You have been so adamant about him? What changed?

[Suzune]

I need to unvote too
UNVOTE:

[Suzune]

So I am not sure who I should blame for the amount of strange filler in this game Jeanne or Titus. Clearly if it is some kind of combined effort to be annoying by constantly going back and forth I noticed.

Otherwise, on to other things.

TTH is my strongest townread. Then you, then Cuddleh, then Titus. Cuddleh has seemed more town as the game progressed. I like their observations. Titus isn't super town cause I don't like her scumread on Jeanne and I feel like she's not including Suzune in the townblock out of caution. Not sure if town caution or scum caution cause she doesn't want to townread too many people. But besides that her content has seemed town.

This is fair. You are correct that I only asked you for your reads on others so your first answer was correct. This makes me feel much more townie about you because I was worried you were only looking at Firebringer and less at everyone else.

I have to agree with you too TellTale is my number one town read right now too. The is a genuineness to her posts.

My gut doesn't feel good about Suzune. I don't trust her. I don't get how anyone can be confident in Suzune as town or scum atm.

It is because I am not apologising. You said you hated that last time we were together, so I am actually trying to do it less.

Don't bother. She clearly wants to persecute everyone who disagrees with her. Also, she doesn't trust Suzune, yet suddenly Suzune is a 'moderate town read' to her. *hea starts spinning* Cut the bs.

This is not what I got from this at all. Surprised that is what you read. I read, "I am unsure of Suzune but she is not my priority." Or something along those lines. When you exaggerate to make a point you look more scummy.

[Suzune]

That is what I read. I read what I read? You want to force me to see things your way. Thanks, but I have a mind of my own.

Why are you so defensive?

[Suzune]

@Suzune Because if I get mislynched, my other head dies as well.

That is the same for all of us and for ever hydra ever. What you seem to fail to realise is that the rest of the town is a team too. Being defensive makes me want to poke you because clearly something is wrong because it means you have something to hide.

[Suzune]

You know there are other people in this game then Titus right?

[Suzune]

You know there are other people in this game then Titus right?

Yes there are, but to be blunt, you all follow Titus like sheep.

I am unsure what game you are watching then. I see no one following him blindly this game.

[Suzune]

I have typed up a couple of things, but none of them either sound nice nor help at all. I do not want to derail a game that I enjoy because Jeanne is getting under my skin. I'm still here, but I will post when more people return to talk.

[Suzune]

Yesterday I was on board. Today, Jeanne is better than yesterday, so no on the policy lynch. Scum case her.

Define less bad today. I mean, all the days blend together. I tend to think she is more scummy today because unlike yesterday she is downright defensive today. Insulted everyone for their lack of personal initiative or something. I would mind less if everything was not just about impressing you, but when she talks to the rest of us we are just pointless pieces which makes her hard to work with.

[Suzune]

I want to focus on Suzune a little bit, she's always a mystery to me and the quicker I can work her out the faster I can put myself at ease with her. I find it odd that she's been sitting on her RVS vote the entire game and only unvoted recently. She scum read Jeanne in her 315 and this remains consistent as explained in her 598 and 745. You are clearly scum reading Jeanne but why haven't you voted her yet, Suzune?

Honestly, my problem with RVS votes is I tend to let them sit for a while. This is one of the main reasons that I do not vote often or change vote often. Sometimes I get lucky and do not need to change my rvs vote. Most of the time I do. I realised that obviously it was a terrible vote because I was townreading TTH. When someone else unvoted it jogged my memory that I needed to do that too.

I want to lynch Jeanne, however I have become so bias over it. She is annoying me and as much as I want her gone, and I could come up with many reasons I think she is scummy. The heart of the reason is that I want her gone, and I would do anything to find scum in her actions. Therefore, my frustration leads me to not want to vote because it is not coming from a terribly evidence driven study but a emotional one. I was doing better with it yesterday noticing the defensiveness and the inability to see the town as allies and when I can get a little time I might go back and make a case for it. However, at the current moment without clearing my thoughts and seeing it objectively I cannot. Soon though, very soon.

[Suzune]

Well I would not say I confessed to wanting a policy lynch. I confessed to your personality in this game being a factor, but that there were other elements involved.

[Suzune]

I promise I will. When I am not getting ready for work.

[Suzune]

Micro just ended Suzune. Sorry for mislynchhing you day 1

I worked very hard against that my lynch too. Alas, you were mafia so nothing to apologize for.

[Suzune]

Jeanne you asked me to tell you why I thought you were scummy other than I thought you were distracting.

What is wrong with you guys?

what is this stupid question?

and

That is what I read. I read what I read? You want to force me to see things your way. Thanks, but I have a mind of my own.

Why are you so defensive?

These posts strike me as overly defensive. The more you push how stupid you think we are or that our questions are pointless makes me wonder if you are using it as a deflection technique. It looks like you are trying to hide behind your attitude and use it as your shield. Although the other head of the hydra is not against doing this either:

policy lynch!!!
Titus you know jeanne better than this...
-frozen

This one is also overly defensive. Lynching Jeanne has been talked about several times over the course of the game. However, this post is again only directed at Titus even though we are all the ones talking about it.

This defensiveness strikes me mafia. Jeanne is known for her random rampages where people do not agree with her. However, this is the first time, that because we are scum reading her she is on the rampage and the other side of the hydra is backing this strange maneuver.

[Suzune]

VOTE: Elyse

Anyway, most of what I said earlier still applies. Townreading everyone who posts and just scumreading lurkers, incredibly insincere.

I wasn't really on FJ for alignment reasons anyway.

RC i would appreciate a game summary on where you stand post. You have been gone for a while and missed many highlights. So I was curious where you stand. This read seems kind of bad to me..

[Suzune]

Oh, for the love of...perhaps I will read the game or something. We are going to need to do something here, the game has stagnated quite a bit. Although I am interested to see what starbuck has to say.

[Suzune]

Post coming soon

[Suzune]

Okay, I am having kind of a bad day, my car decided it would rather be in teh ditch then on the road....that ice....so I am not catching up sorry for the delay

[Suzune]

I am bored.

Let's lynch.

Someone scumclaim.

I have the same feeling...

Personally, I think I would like to lynch RadiantCowbells

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[Suzune]

Wtf..

Yeah, that wagon is patently bullshit. I can confirm myself at night thanks to flavor claims.

Mislynch someone else.

which one are you talking about the one on you?

Also what is with one shot neighborizers these days? It is like the most common strange claim...

[Suzune]

I;m not sure I would count 780 as scumhunting.

[Suzune]

Firebringer would you like to claim?

[Suzune]

3. I caught it first thing in the morning when I jumped on the site real quick before heading off yesterday. I spotted TTH's response to me and felt that it needed to be addressed, and a subsequent response added. I get how you can see it as "not scumhunting," but TTH was definitely using that purpose scumhunt me. So, again, tell me why I shouldn't have defended myself or acknowledged it? Given my, now, many other catch up posts.

I misunderstand this one. Are you suggesting that TTH knew that you coud not be online and chose that moment to attack you. Or are you claiming that you are aware you are not scum hunting and therefore understand the suspicion on you. It is one or the other and they are very different please clarify.

6. I disagree. I have original content, and if you feel like you need me to elaborate, why not just ask? Say "why do you like this?" or "can you explain more about why you're not sure of RC?" Fucking engage with me. Don't sit back and complain after my catch up and be vague about why you suspect me when you haven't even asked me anything or asked me to further explain. If you look, my catch ups have quite a number of questions so that I can address and get further reads on those in the game. I've been here since the beginning (as in I started the game with you all), but it's almost like I'm a replacement coming in due to my busyness in the past few weeks and I need to get my own feel for all the players. All that fluff at the beginning did absolutely nada for me.

I find being a replacement who is replacing in as scum is the worst because it is hard to think of original things to say to someone because you are busy trying to catch up and look normal. That is what you look like to me. You should not need our help to engage because you should be curious about us to so please do not place the blame on everyone.

Otherwise, I feel like your post has a lot of words in it, but it does not really say very much.

p-edit, I always suspected you were the hottest dragon around~

[Suzune]

But no seriously, would you like to claim something? Other then the entire group of people playing is scummy because that is really not helpful

[Suzune]

Did he just offer you up to die with him? Just curious?

[Suzune]

Did he just offer you up to die with him? Just curious?

Nope, only one of us can be lynched today.

Ah so the champion ability. So the voting pool has been changed.

[Suzune]

Did he just offer you up to die with him? Just curious?

Nope, only one of us can be lynched today.

Ah so the champion ability. So the voting pool has been changed.

So scummy >>>

What? It is usually the town heroes ability every time I have ever seen it used. It was Goku's ability and DBZ mafia and Luffy's in One Piece Mafia...I cannot think of a single time it was scummy.

[Suzune]

So really, it just seems that she was attacking me for being slow on catching up/not liking how I catch up, than for anything concrete, and now, she's stating that I'm shallow which is akin to mollie saying that my posts, in the now-finished Prozac Large Game, were "surface" when I'm giving y'all all that I go

I regret to inform you that this is not a new thing. It will happen all the time on mafiascum, if you cannot keep up or be active people will dislike it. When you say you are caught up but aren't people will attack for not knowing things you would have known if caught up. I do not think it is unfair for her to question you.

I don't feel that I look like that at all, that's why I'm having such a hard time seeing that from all of your sides. I mean, I know I was largely absent and if you guys need some picture/video proof of the amount of robotics events and event preparation over the past few weeks that I've been accomplishing, I will provide it.

I am uncertain why you are so frustrated? It matters not whether you actually had those events, what matters is that we are looking to read you and have little to go on. With little information and none of it scum hunting but just catching up, it is hard for us to reach conclusions on your slot. How long would you have us wait for answers and reads on you?

I will tell you the honest truth. It is hard to make assumptions on catch up posts, because they look at old information while the game has mostly moved onward.

[Suzune]

-Sorry, that last line should say, it is hard to make questions because they are looking at old information

[Suzune]

I could drink with you if it makes you feel better~

[Suzune]

I'd welcome that.

Sounds fun~ I'll grab some now then

[Suzune]

I don't think that you are lying about being the gladiator, but the fact that the vote count did not reset to flatter this worries me

[Suzune]

Why claim something that could be disproved so easily though

[Suzune]

Idk last ditch effort to survive?

Technically he claimed negative town utility and gladiator.

[Suzune]

Wait mollie joined this game?

No Starbuck was in another game with mollie

[Suzune]

VOTE: Suzune

Reconsidered.

My voting pool is Suz/TTH/Starbuck right now.

honestly seems like a pretty terrible lynch pool to me.

[Suzune]

Except for starbuct I would lynxh her.

[Suzune]

Yes yes, my relations with the recently deceased...I did believe in the claim.

Starbuck ha nothing really substantial in this game and made catch up post after catch up post that really did not say anything new. This makes me think she is scum having trouble keeping up.

My read on telltale is townie. She has been scum hunting well and helping the team.

[Suzune]

Then vote Suzune and let's be done with it.

then lynch a townie. I'm commuting to this game anyway. Have to go home at night save Dresden then come back in the morning.

[Suzune]

To be fair, Jeanne doesn't have a huge ego.

Clearly some serious insecurity issues.

I'm done talking about Titus now though.

Why?

Associatives are absolute shit.
Suzune opportunistically jumped on like every single wagon.
Suzune's scumhunting, if you can call it that, is nearly nonexistent and she spends more time making side comments about the game than anything else.
Annie is the best.

You know I actually thought I was doing pretty well at this game. Apparently you think no and decided to go with the gusto get us and railroad me all day. But honey, I will not bow to your annoying behavior. Nor will I let you lynch me.

Since I was on one wagon yesterday, I hardly find it fair that was opportunistically on any of them. In case you missed it I posted the reasons for my votes thus they are not opportunistic, so please give actual reasons.

Likewise, intend to like my style of scum hunting.

[Suzune]

Oh I see, since I had one vote yesterday. You are upset that I voted you...

[Suzune]

And then...no one was around to talk to.

[Suzune]

I laugh RC how the only message you post about is not my claim, not my defense of your accusations, but the off hand comment about he vote. Kind of interesting.

[Suzune]

Well since I am not scum, should I take offense? Your limited and locked personality concerns me though.

[Suzune]

I raise you ten, because I am not scum. In case you were curious, saying good day means little to me. I will fight back regardless because I hate wasting a lynch on a townie. I would rather you not play like Jeanne.

[Suzune]

You are fixated on your opinion. It has to be right, even though it is wrong. Therefore it is the same, you are the mafias dizzyest daydream, someone who demands the lynch of a townie, a townie they can't hit. So please, spare me the story about my relationship with fire. I will not deny it, I was joking with him and playing so yeah, that is true. Mafia is about fun and when fun people play, I love the mood. However, you are fixated no longer thinking, so you are basing only on interpersonal skills, making wild accusations and you want to be taken seriously?

[Suzune]

Alright, I'm done.

FJ is being added to my foe list from here on out.

what has you so fired up today? You seem unusually hostile.

[Suzune]

I'm sorry to hear that. I do not want to hurt you, but I will not lay down and let you lynch a townie.

[Suzune]

I am uncertain who you are talking to RC. I like you a lot as a player, and I think you could be Fun to joke around with, but I dislike strongly when anyone goes on the fixated mindset.

[Suzune]

I already did RC when you asked me why I would lynch starbuck

[Suzune]

I ask you not to leave to.

[Suzune]

Then vote Suzune and let's be done with it.

then lynch a townie. I'm commuting to this game anyway. Have to go home at night save Dresden then come back in the morning.

I claimed here. I'm 1-shot commuter

[Suzune]

Whoopies I'm here. Post coming in just a minute

[Suzune]

I think TTH would have said if she was ascetic.

Realistically there would be no advantage to using your aestic night one if it was a one shot ability. However if you are worried about a cop that makes sense.

Also did we ever get a motivator answer, I know what one is if we still need it.

That's an instalynch from me.

Why exactly?

Also my choices when sending in roles were Cersei, Daenerys, Arya in that order because I wanted to be mafia with Cersei :/ But Dany is my fave character so I was happy with that.

My other roles were mafia choices as well, being Azula and Madison Montgomery.

[Suzune]

ok Suzane needs to claim as well. w8ing

-Frozen

I've claimed three times...since no one apparently wants to read it...

[Suzune]

Would scum AND town both have a roleblocker though.

I'm inclined to think otherwise which makes me want to speedlynch Cuddly even more than I already did.

In a large game sure. In a small game, no.

I'm just noting that Jailkeeper still seems like a weird ass claim in the setup.

The setup makes no sense.

The jailkeeper is not the strange role in the mix, because it can come up as a possibility in newbie games. Nor is the vengeful unusual. Honestly, the commuter is a weird choice and the neighborizer and the motivator. Are you a permanent or a one shot motivator? Seriously though that neigborizer strikes me as odd

[Suzune]

Starbuck

pick one or the other.

you can not have it your own way.

Also pls stop calling yourself a mislynch because I swear to god that i hear that word used one more time this game i'll scream.

What do you mean pick one or the other? I, originally, thought that RC was referring to your claim as a scum claim, so I gave a possible reasoning there. Setting me up as a mislynch for town makes perfect sense. RC, then, corrected me and I gave a reasoning for you to JK TTH if you are town. Simmer down, my friend.

And I'll call myself a mislynch all day long because that's what I'll be even when it's done for a strategic reason.

Are you trying to get lynched? Something about all your posts today either read a fluff or as overly defensive?

Can someone explain ascetic to me?

Ascetic means that you are unable to be targeted by any actions except killing roles. You are also not informed you were targeted. I realise it was explained but not like that, and that is the correct way to explain it. Trust me I have been one two times in the last two months.

[Suzune]

Oh, it kills me that Cuddly doesn't seem to acknowledge that VT can also stand for Vengeful Townie. Hence, why I claimed that way. Guess I'm not allowed any fun.

Being too serious is boring.

This is totally a bizarre defense. I have never seen it mean vengeful townie before unless I knew the game had vengeful's in it. VT almost always means vanilla townie, why can you do accept that? I would have assume vanilla too, it is almost deceitful. In fact it would be better for you to hide it in my opinion and use it as your ace...

[Suzune]

VOTE: Starbuck

[Suzune]

lynch?!! :/

Well, you are correct Starbuck went for the lynch...