Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)
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In post 298, SirCakez wrote:In post 296, droog wrote:In post 292, SirCakez wrote:Not confident. I thought it was pretty clear.
but you said his tone was confident
His tone is confident but his actions do not reflect actually being confident.
so when you say that townies are confident
do you mean that townies are condinnt
or townies have confident tones"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 285, Something_Smart wrote:@Cerberus:
About PC, I don't like his accusation that my posts to him were "useless theory fluff" when he was the one who brought up the theory. I haven't pushed him because he hasn't been at the top of my scum list.
Hmm. Read required, I don't recall the accusation that your posts were useless theory fluff. Also, he's right, NAA first brought up the idea, but...his answer was weird. I don't think it was like he directly answered the question, he was just like "Oh yeah, btw, I'm not going to be paying any attention to associatives ever."
About Yonom, I felt a little better about her after her responses to my attacks, particularly where she acknowledged her fallacy.
Gotcha. Hmm. Not enough content with her for me to have any real opinion on how reasonable this thought is.
About Rhazh, he's not being very helpful and he seems to be subtly egging on my wagon.
How so? Again, something I need to check his iso for. You said subtle, so...i'll look.
And another thing- I don't necessarily expect my 3 biggest scumreads to be the scumteam. So I don't think all my scumreads need to "fit in".
In post 286, pistachi0n wrote:In post 252, Cerberus v666 wrote:In post 251, droog wrote:it would really help me
keep a few of you straight
if you please got avatars
That's eh, that's not happening. Try reading our names?
Why are you so against having an avatar? Are you trying to make a statement? Are you morally opposed to avatars? Would you having an avatar be like a false idol that fails to represent your greatness? What gives?
I couldn't care less about having an avatar. As something I don't care about, it's not worth however little time it would take to get an avatar and set it up. As someone who doesn't care, doing it would be solely for the benefit of the *many* people who have asked me to get one, and none of you matter enough to me to me on a personal level for me to spend even a second doing something for you. *shrug*
Basically, I won't do it because there is no benefit to me, and doing it for the benefit of someone else I don't care about is meh.
Now, if you WERE someone I thought was super cool, I'd probably tell you that I'm not gonna do it because I said so.
I like the whole "false idol that fails to represent my greatness" line though. I think i'm going to steal it. From now on, that will be the excuse I'll give. ^^
Also, interesting perspective cakez. I'll keep it in mind when I look over your ISO. I do believe SS isn't the only person who has displayed similar confidence. Others have even voted using a similar template of vote: x. Reason, Reason, Reason. I'll check the thread and remind you of it so you can tell me what the difference is between SS and those slots.-
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In post 301, droog wrote:In post 298, SirCakez wrote:In post 296, droog wrote:In post 292, SirCakez wrote:Not confident. I thought it was pretty clear.
but you said his tone was confident
His tone is confident but his actions do not reflect actually being confident.
so when you say that townies are confident
do you mean that townies are condinnt
or townies have confident tones
Townies are confident. I've said it multiple times.
Interested to see what Cerberus finds.-
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actually hold up
In post 302, Cerberus v666 wrote:As someone who doesn't care, doing it would be solely for the benefit of the *many* people who have asked me to get one, and none of you matter enough to me
are you on the *town* faction
with other *townies*
who share your interests
and benefit you when you benefit them
???????"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 306, droog wrote:actually hold up
In post 302, Cerberus v666 wrote:As someone who doesn't care, doing it would be solely for the benefit of the *many* people who have asked me to get one, and none of you matter enough to me
are you on the *town* faction
with other *townies*
who share your interests
and benefit you when you benefit them
???????
I don't think he's town so I don't know how far you'll get with this but I might be wrong I guess.-
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Cerberus v666 Let's Be Reasonable
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In post 306, droog wrote:actually hold up
In post 302, Cerberus v666 wrote:As someone who doesn't care, doing it would be solely for the benefit of the *many* people who have asked me to get one, and none of you matter enough to me
are you on the *town* faction
with other *townies*
who share your interests
and benefit you when you benefit them
???????
This question about avatars isn't game related. Trying to say I have some sort of obligation to get an avatar because it would "benefit" the town and thus be playing towards my win con is ridiculous. Getting one is just a thing I don't want to do.-
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In post 307, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 306, droog wrote:actually hold up
In post 302, Cerberus v666 wrote:As someone who doesn't care, doing it would be solely for the benefit of the *many* people who have asked me to get one, and none of you matter enough to me
are you on the *town* faction
with other *townies*
who share your interests
and benefit you when you benefit them
???????
I don't think he's town so I don't know how far you'll get with this but I might be wrong I guess.
Is this because I don't do reads on D1, or is there some other reason?-
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no
the issues is that your first reaction was
"theres no one i care about who would benefit""...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 308, Something_Smart wrote:SirCakez wrote:Pretty confident. This discussion is going in circles.
Okay then SirCakez, answer this: What makes you so confident? Do you really think you are that good at Mafia?
The reactions of you and others throughout the thread is making me confident. My townreads are agreeing with me is also making me confident.
And I don't think I'm good at mafia honestly.-
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@Cerb, That post was not a joke. You'll find I don't joke much. I was detecting a sudden desire by Rh to talk theory, drag the game down and not focusing on SS. I was pressuring there. I am rather surprised you find me using the word "Discuss" as a joke. You know I am super serious compared to most.
@all, Can anyone give me a reason on Cakez beyond he's obvtown and pushing scum...like reallyShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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guys drop it about the avatar
how hard is it to read a name anyway
SirCakez wrote:In post 308, Something_Smart wrote:SirCakez wrote:Pretty confident. This discussion is going in circles.
Okay then SirCakez, answer this: What makes you so confident? Do you really think you are that good at Mafia?
The reactions of you and others throughout the thread is making me confident. My townreads are agreeing with me is also making me confident.
And I don't think I'm good at mafia honestly.
So basically, confbias. Have any specific reasons?-
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he needed exploring. I'm ok with going back to ss now, though, I don't see much wrong with cakez or his reaction.
I thought he seemed to be kind of hiding/ sheeping and I voted and pushed to see if he had thoughts of his own but while I disagree with some of the stuff he's said I think he's probably town and he does think for himself.
VOTE: S S-
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Titus, SirCakez has made weak cases, made reads based on who agrees with him, hasn't actually done that much scumhunting, and now this whole confidence load of crap.
Remember that scum's main problem is how confident they should appear in their reads. It's likely that SirCakez misjudged that on me and is now hurting for it.-
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In post 315, Something_Smart wrote:guys drop it about the avatar
how hard is it to read a name anyway
SirCakez wrote:In post 308, Something_Smart wrote:SirCakez wrote:Pretty confident. This discussion is going in circles.
Okay then SirCakez, answer this: What makes you so confident? Do you really think you are that good at Mafia?
The reactions of you and others throughout the thread is making me confident. My townreads are agreeing with me is also making me confident.
And I don't think I'm good at mafia honestly.
So basically, confbias. Have any specific reasons?
The series of posts I quoted earlier. That progression of thinking was one I don't see coming from town.
The "It was a joke" thing. That's been hashed over a ton already.-
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Titus is scum.In post 314, Titus wrote:@Cerb, That post was not a joke. You'll find I don't joke much. I was detecting a sudden desire by Rh to talk theory, drag the game down and not focusing on SS. I was pressuring there. I am rather surprised you find me using the word "Discuss" as a joke. You know I am super serious compared to most.
@all, Can anyone give me a reason on Cakez beyond he's obvtown and pushing scum...like really
Discuss."You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire-
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In post 318, SirCakez wrote:In post 315, Something_Smart wrote:guys drop it about the avatar
how hard is it to read a name anyway
SirCakez wrote:In post 308, Something_Smart wrote:SirCakez wrote:Pretty confident. This discussion is going in circles.
Okay then SirCakez, answer this: What makes you so confident? Do you really think you are that good at Mafia?
The reactions of you and others throughout the thread is making me confident. My townreads are agreeing with me is also making me confident.
And I don't think I'm good at mafia honestly.
So basically, confbias. Have any specific reasons?
The series of posts I quoted earlier. That progression of thinking was one I don't see coming from town.
The "It was a joke" thing. That's been hashed over a ton already.
So basically your argument boils down to "he seems too confident but he isn't" and "he joked in RVS".
I've already discussed the former. For the latter please read my wallpost to Titus in its entirety.
AI for the love of god could you please give a reason for anything you say.-
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In post 311, droog wrote:no
the issues is that your first reaction was
"theres no one i care about who would benefit"
*shrug* it's just the truth. I don't view the avatar thing as being even slightly game relevant. If it's not game relevant, it comes down to my personal feelings about having an avatar, which are no, I don't feel like getting one, and my feeling about those who want me to get one, which are fuck off you don't matter to me. If you *do* feel that it's game relevant, then, well, I suppose we simply disagree.
In post 313, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:It is game related and it is to the benefit of the town.
I dare you to try to play a game with no avatars and I can promise you it is a lot harder to keep track of everyone.
PEdit: it's because of a lot of things, but even if you are town you're playing an anti-town game.
Saying I'm playing an anti-town game is a rather major statement to make. You can say I'm doing an anti-town thing, and you're welcome to hold that opinion, but saying I'm playing an anti-town game is a much bigger deal. Can you elaborate which one you intended?
In post 314, Titus wrote:@Cerb, That post was not a joke. You'll find I don't joke much. I was detecting a sudden desire by Rh to talk theory, drag the game down and not focusing on SS. I was pressuring there. I am rather surprised you find me using the word "Discuss" as a joke. You know I am super serious compared to most.
@all, Can anyone give me a reason on Cakez beyond he's obvtown and pushing scum...like really
hmph. Point taken Titus. Your seriousness isn't really important, what's important is how that post may have been interpreted. I think it's reasonable to say it may have been interpreted as less than serious. If he thought it WAS serious, and did the whole joke/backing off thing, whatever...then we get to talk about the idea of whether or not this "tell" is a good one. I'm still at the point where I'm not even sure the post you made was interpreted as you intended it, which is a good way off of the point I need to be at to be talking about the scum tell. I read his whole iso, you see stuff above. His responses to my concerns were...reasonable. Not great, but it wasn't like he was fumbling over himself to explain the contradictions I pointed out.
pedit: Titus could always be scum. I've never played with her in a game without a decent number of PR's, and I think she was a VT in only one of those games(and I had her nailed as town from like, super duper early on), so it's hard for me to analyze her early game play since her play in our previous games has always been greatly influenced by the PR she had, if my recollection is correct.-
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I am gonna say "gut", the ultimate joker card in this game.In post 321, Something_Smart wrote:In post 318, SirCakez wrote:In post 315, Something_Smart wrote:guys drop it about the avatar
how hard is it to read a name anyway
SirCakez wrote:In post 308, Something_Smart wrote:SirCakez wrote:Pretty confident. This discussion is going in circles.
Okay then SirCakez, answer this: What makes you so confident? Do you really think you are that good at Mafia?
The reactions of you and others throughout the thread is making me confident. My townreads are agreeing with me is also making me confident.
And I don't think I'm good at mafia honestly.
So basically, confbias. Have any specific reasons?
The series of posts I quoted earlier. That progression of thinking was one I don't see coming from town.
The "It was a joke" thing. That's been hashed over a ton already.
So basically your argument boils down to "he seems too confident but he isn't" and "he joked in RVS".
I've already discussed the former. For the latter please read my wallpost to Titus in its entirety.
AI for the love of god could you please give a reason for anything you say."You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire-
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Oh, one more point to Eagle: I lose track of what avatars belong to what people. Having the avatars arguably makes it harder for me to keep track of the game. Peoples individual posting styles and the idiosyncrasies in their phrasing do a lot more to identify who made a post for me than a silly picture next to their name.
And yes, that should be enough said about the avatar thing.
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