New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Killthestory]

so heres the thing.

fires defence of Kuroi is town, but the rest of his play is scummy. like, i cant shake the feeling he defended town because he knew himself he was scum. his entire play doesn't fit his town meta, and it's really bothering me

[Killthestory]

I would like you to lynch me, you being town in this scenario just baffles me.

shut up

VOTE: Fire

gonna leave that there since I still don't like fire

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Performer

I like Slandaar's thought process. Performer has been striking me as pretty weird

[Killthestory]

how the hell is fire playing the same as his town game? Like, can anyone safely say Fire is town here?

[Killthestory]

dg I don't like ur reads they make me doubt my reads which are always right

[Killthestory]

BEGONE FOUL BEAST

[Killthestory]

I feel like I'm the last town left alive

[Killthestory]

KTS is conftown, and at the time that Fire said that he WAS voting me.

Yes, KTS is p much town. He's a claimed 2 shot vig and has killed a mafia, thus he's not mafia. Thought there were 3 kills night 3, so mafia shot, sk dhot and the vig kill?

However my point was that instead of voting KTS (who he believed was scum) he switched his vote to Dom instead.

Fire rolling over makes me not care if that dies but I'd still like to finish reading before we hang someone.

Wait a sec. KTS how come you mentioned you shot Aris but you never mentioned anything about the other night where 2 scum died?

i did

[Killthestory]

shut up you carrot im thinking

[Killthestory]

There's so many slots I want to see dead, why wasn't I given a gun?

because youre a carrot that sucks at this game

[Killthestory]

im not allowed to call people carrots?

yeah what fire said

[Killthestory]

I cut myself today, to see if I could feel

[Killthestory]

Johnny Cash said it, not me. Go yell at him

[Killthestory]

I don't care who said it, don't repeat it.

le qq

[Killthestory]

you guys need to give me a good song to get me motivated

[Killthestory]

hebi troubles me as a read, fire is lock town i think.

[Killthestory]

i kind of just want to lynch hebi and see where we go from there.
perf is probs town with slandaar. slandaar is town.

aaa theres too much probable scum this is scary

[Killthestory]

everyone give their reads rn

like literally rn please give your reads

or at least give your top 3 town, top 3 scum

[Killthestory]

I'm so glad that scum's NK was DG, gives me a lot more room to work with.

[Killthestory]

So clearly scum saw DBG as a threat.

Why?

[Killthestory]

Someone let me know which day is the potential to hit MyLo or LyLo so I can plan accordingly.

Anyway, fuck this WIFOM bullshit. I'm done with this fucking stupid shit where I have to scumread town players and townread scummy players because of how they play. I'm turning this into blatant fucking black and white motherfucking shit. I'm not gonna let myself self destruct because end game, even with our scumreads on scum, we were still too fucking focused on other town to really care.

That means that you, Fire, have to fucking suck the shit up that you don't wanna play this game. I have no problems with you as a player, but I need players who are useful right now. I want to fucking play my hardest right now because while I have literally no fucks to give about losing, I want to play to my best. That way, I don't have to regret my actions when going into LyLo or MyLo. Do shit or replace out. If you wanna stay in the game but only whine about it and shit?



That said, SS and Rach are my heaviest townreads along with Performer. Rach especially after just finishing a game with her and knowing her towngame, so I'm fairly confident in that read. I'm gonna have to look at SS more, but they've fucking played townie. I don't care if I lose to them because they've played good, and they deserve a win. Town, frankly, does not deserve a win, but I don't give a single shit because I'm still gonna play good.

Alrighty, let's take a look at Hebi and her predecessors. Associatives are gonna be hard to find on these motherfuckers, but so far, the way I see it, Ozgin and Frag weren't heavily townreading each other. They were either townreading each other, or scumreading each other, but not pushing either of the reads,. Find associatives where they just come out with the read but don't push it. That's where you find scum.

Also, I'm gonna have to look at who DGB agreed with, and who they fucked with. See what correlations come of it.

Anyone want to do VCA for me? That'd be great.

Time to do some fucking work.

[Killthestory]

Someone hit me up with some rap songs since I'm about to get pumped.

[Killthestory]

Slandaar's play reminds me of Ozgin, and they're interactions together have been weird as fuck. I'm a take a look at that shit once I finish with looking at Hebi. I'm gonna give Fire some time to either replace out or start contributing, or else that slot will die.

[Killthestory]

I can't believe I doubted myself. SS has been obvtown this entire game. Read the first five pages and you see why. Mark that slot down as fucking townie as all hell. Performer is also up there for me.

[Killthestory]

Im a vanilla townie

92nd post and he claimed, something I absolutely don't see scum doing. Rach has been playing her towngame, this slot is town. Don't care if we lose to them either. Not lynching this.

[Killthestory]

Shit I thought Rach replaced Ilikebugs, but it was Hebi. Hebi's town, gonna re-evaluate Rach slot since GuyFawke's play pings me as scum so fucking hard. Hebi votes are bad, get off that wagon now.

[Killthestory]

FUCK.

I'm starting to doubt myself. Ilikebugs claimed VT right off the bat, but at the same time, his reads are utter trash. He townreads Drixx and Snarky which is pretty good, but he also strays with votes on Reubus and Irao which is terrible. He also townreads Fragger which is terrible. Gonna have to look more at Hebi then, but there's a specific post I don't like about Ilikebugs.

[Killthestory]

Ilikebugs did not vote on a single confirmed scum player in this game. He instead voted all proven town members. That makes me think he's scum. He also heavily buddies GuyFawkes and Fragger which is heavily suspicious. He also said that GuyFawkes was town by defending him from people who scumreading him, but he didn't actually say why he thought Guy was town, not just noticeably null.

Gonna ISO Hebi then.

[Killthestory]

he hasn't talked much about the game.

Which is a...?

SCUMTELL

I think both KTS and Kuroi are town after reading their ISOs, they both have honest reads on the game and they seem pretty have been fairly active. I think it's kinda silly they're voting on eachother here, frankly.

DBG on the other hand has been posting barely any content. I'm not gonna be posting a long quote take thing mostp laers do, because that isn't my style. But so far, My reads can be summarized as such.

Town: KTS, Kuroi, Egg

Scum: DGB

That's about what I have that I want to share right now. I want to hear from the other replacement too.

Huh

Why would you mention Egg who was killed Night 2? Anyway, all of the people she mentioned were town. All of them. Including her scumreads. No, no reads on actual potential scum at all. Why? That is suspicious as all hell, especially when Hebi was the one to vote Kuroi, knowing it would get them towncred from being able to successfully townread two controversial players and scumread a player who wasn't heavily townread by most and could be a mislynch.

I want to see how I reacted to Hebi coming in, and I want to see how DGB reacted to them.

[Killthestory]

no kuroi is scum but

would you vote firebringer w/ me?

I would honestly, I feel like he's whiteknighting Kuroi and it bothers me in his ISO. His snap vote on you seems a bit off too.

Fire and Hebi aren't the same alignment. This is a fact from this single post. SvS and TvT is simply not possible.

[Killthestory]

Me:
DBG
Firebringer
mayyybe performer, but less likely.

Performer, also one of my top townreads. Interesting, right?

So where's your mention of GuyFawkes or Rach? Your predecessor mentioned them once as a townread for no real explicit reason. Weird.

[Killthestory]

Not today. Four isn't enough for a wagon, and it's been hard enough to gain votes on Kuroi. But I would lynch Fire tomorrow, especially if Kuroi flips scum because of the way he defended him.

Do you still think KTS and Kuroi are both town? Because I would heavily disagree with that.

Okay, I'm willing to go on a Kuroi vote, if kuroi townflips we lynch KTS, if he scum flips we lynch Firebringer, seems like a reasonable compromise, considering KTS was saying lynching Kuroi would validate him.

VOTE: Kuroi

LOL He's willing to vote his two town, voting actually one of his town, and he's setting up all mislynches.

This is probably scum.

[Killthestory]

Something Smart asked me if I thought both kuroi and KTS could both be town yesterday. With Kuroi flipping town, what is your opinion on that now SS?

I came in here and my first statement was I though kuroi and KTS were both town. Which seemed to be an unpopular opinion at the time.

YET YOU WERE WILLING TO LYNCH BOTH, WERE YOU NOT???

@Fire Starting from Slandaar's 2697 into the next page with my case. Along with my posts from pgs 104-105 and , 1688 dead-man post and other posts about how ira scumread Frag & KAAG.

KAAG made a poor case against Drixx, Drixx voted KAAG because of it, and KAAG called it a "lame OMGUS" on d4.

This is a fair point, though. The interaction with me against fire also was a bit odd. Both him and SS seemed to have the same reaction. Honestly KAAG and SS scumming together makes a bunch of sense here.

VOTE: KAAG

KAAG and Hebi are also not the same alignment, so whoever replaced them is town since Hebi is scum. SS is confirmed town at this point in my eyes as they've been the towniest player so far, disregarding Performer.

top three town

kts, performer, slandaar

top three scum

SS, Firebringer, KAAG slot

All town, I'm presuming?

VOTE: dominator

normally I would jump on fire for that, but I get the sentiment.

THIS IS A MISLYNCH

So the Hebi slot has actually not voted any scum this game at all. Weird, right? Yeah, yeah...

[Killthestory]

Me:
DBG
Firebringer
mayyybe performer, but less likely.

Performer, also one of my top townreads. Interesting, right?

So where's your mention of GuyFawkes or Rach? Your predecessor mentioned them once as a townread for no real explicit reason. Weird.

As I said multiple times throughout, I don't like ILikeBugs reads in this game.

I don't know why my reads have been so good this game, they just have been. It's been making me frustrated.

LOL BUT YOU HAVEN'T A SINGLE CORRECT SCUMREAD?

Your townreads have been the only thing that's been correct. You know what kind of player does that? A scum player. I would know.

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Hebi

Time to ISO Slandaar, and the Rach slot. Both seem equally likely to be scum. Then I have to see who replaced KAAG.

[Killthestory]

I'm gonna assume it's Nero Cain, so they can be a townread until I ISO them.

[Killthestory]

DBG did vote Hebi yesterday, right? I think they did, based off memory.

Also, I'm thinking scum had a 1-shot along with their NK, or that town had a player who was a 1-shot. Makes no sense with a 2-shot, but whatever. Scum more likelier, but there's still the potential for an SK.

[Killthestory]

Yet each time you pushed your wagon, you inexplicably end up on a wagon that turns into a mislynch. Coincidence man? Also, hell, how the fuck do you know Fire is such scum, yet you haven't actually pushed the slot that hard. "Hey man, it's not like KTS didn't Kuroi," Easiest defense for pushing that mislynch, right?

[Killthestory]

Yeah, cool, play your AtE "I'm done with this game waaaaaaaa." Do I have to go get that image again? That defense is so old for scum and town. I wish people would just actually contribute instead of rolling over and saying, "Let me die!!1." Come on now, don't do that as any alignment pham.

Anyway, if your reads are so good, why don't you push them? Also, why are all of your reads that have been correct only been correct townreads? Isn't that too much of a koinkidink for town to be able to easily read all the town players, but they can't read scum? How is that not the scummiest thing you've ever heard?

You haven't pushed it hard enough l m a o. "Hey man, I'm willing to go on this wagon but I want Fire dead!" is you this entire game.

[Killthestory]

Yeah, cool, play your AtE "I'm done with this game waaaaaaaa." Do I have to go get that image again? That defense is so old for scum and town. I wish people would just actually contribute instead of rolling over and saying, "Let me die!!1." Come on now, don't do that as any alignment pham.

Anyway, if your reads are so good, why don't you push them? Also, why are all of your reads that have been correct only been correct townreads? Isn't that too much of a koinkidink for town to be able to easily read all the town players, but they can't read scum? How is that not the scummiest thing you've ever heard?

You haven't pushed it hard enough l m a o. "Hey man, I'm willing to go on this wagon but I want Fire dead!" is you this entire game.

I don't know how you fucking can't do it cause its been obvious for me since I joined who the fuck was town. I have no idea what even constitutes a coincidence here.

I'm fucking new to the site, I thought my reads were bad, I don't know what the right way to push is. It might be scummy, IT MIGHT BE, but fucking give me a break, cause I am not scum, and all I am willing to take right now is a Firebringer lynch.

lol, you don't realize that scum coming into the game know who town is and they're clearly obvious town? That's basically your attitude right now.

You didn't push because you thought you were bad? You realize that's worse than actively pushing your reads, right?

Yeah, cool, play your AtE "I'm done with this game waaaaaaaa." Do I have to go get that image again? That defense is so old for scum and town. I wish people would just actually contribute instead of rolling over and saying, "Let me die!!1." Come on now, don't do that as any alignment pham.

Anyway, if your reads are so good, why don't you push them? Also, why are all of your reads that have been correct only been correct townreads? Isn't that too much of a koinkidink for town to be able to easily read all the town players, but they can't read scum? How is that not the scummiest thing you've ever heard?

You haven't pushed it hard enough l m a o. "Hey man, I'm willing to go on this wagon but I want Fire dead!" is you this entire game.

I'm also not saying let me die, I'm saying if I get close to lynched, I will lynch myself.

Same thing

[Killthestory]

(watches scum pushing an easy mislynch)

VOTE: creature
saying scum is pushing a mislynch while you are at L-8 seems is garbage. that and the repeated deflections

pushing that fire slot man, I hope you feel happy.

I've gotta agree with iraonavp re fraggernaut

VOTE: fraggernaut

hm

VOTE: reubus swagrid

next post switches to the inactive lurker

VOTE: fraggernaut

he was talking out both ends towards the end of Day 1

hm again

[float=][/float]

Still think iraonvp is the better lynch today but we can't risk a no lynch.

VOTE: Reubus Swagrid

We can vig him. I didn't like his gratuitous power role hint. He's scum, too.

You would be okay vigging a PR? Something seems off about this.

He meant to vig me from what I take from that , you're still scum iraonvp & probably should buss your partner for the town credit .

Reread what Dripping said, and I get what they mean now. I would definitely be interested to see a vig shot on Iraonvp.

Would be a great shot.

Also no I never claimed PR. Dropping said they got a PR feel from your post, & I thought they were saying they thought you was a PR.

Iraonvp I misread the post. I thought he was calling you a PR then in the same instance saying the vigi should have a shot on you. He wasn't saying that. There should be a vigi shot on you. Simple .

frag is inconsistent with his "misreading" of 801 particulary between 810 and 849

actually pretty townie

yeah frag is scum

huh

so drixx and firebringer are scumbuddies. good to know

whoa

VOTE: killthestory

why aren't you voting for one of your scum reads?

ew

[Killthestory]

hebi is doing more of that AtE shit and rolling over and dying and screaming their reads are correct and shit.

guyfawkes slot was p town, time to ISO rach

[Killthestory]

Still reading some points though quickly from D 1

bug dude is clearly a noob, most likely town. Even a newbscum would have hemmed a bit not come right out with VT like that, BTW bug DONT do that again. Only claim if you are about to be lynched, or in the case of a mass claim.

Need more from Slan so far hes not given me much to peg him.

Even in theory you do not suggest NL on D1

That being said, ira is probably town, annoying, but town. I can't see someone voting NL like that with at least a couple peeps yelling we have to have a lynch on D1.

Moving along more later now back to reading up on D 2

good reads so far

Still early on page 2 but why are we giving Oz dude a pass? Well other than Slan that is, feeling better about Slan going in the town pile now that I see a bit more from him.

still good

D 2 read up

Sorry you are so sick Oz Hope you feel better soon, still feel your slot is scum though.

what on earth was that crazy claim by snarky? I can see why he got hammered after that.

@Kill doing short catchups as I go along so that its not one huge ass wall,

i like rach a lot more

Slan, Kill, bug, SS are in my town pile,

Frag too based on the claim,

Ira, Oz, in my scum pile,

Still sorting everyone else out for now.

s t i l l p good

Still feel Slan is town

Kill is probably town

DGB is probably town

Been ISOing Frag and Ozgin and trying to figure out who their other scum budz are.

still good shit

at this point Rach is actually more town and I won't be mad if I lose to them. They can go in my town as fuck pile then

[Killthestory]

hebi is doing more of that AtE shit and rolling over and dying and screaming their reads are correct and shit.

guyfawkes slot was p town, time to ISO rach

I don't really have anything left.

try to do something more productive then, like, oh i dont know, anything else?

Hebi lynch feels wrong, still

[Killthestory]

Why do you think Slandaar is scum? His ISO reads very very town to me.

Performer is town. Fire is useless, null. Hebi is meh.

I don't like your reads.

[Killthestory]

That said, I don't particularly like your lynch anymore, everyone should just sheep me and lynch Aristo.

WAIT A SECOND

[Killthestory]

awesome. Its not like folks not lining my reads have stopped them from flipping scum.

be useful to me or I'll end your life.

Nero/Slandaar= Not same alignment

[Killthestory]

4 players who are acceptable votes.

Hebi, Nero, potentially Slandaar, need to look more, and Fire. Fire, not as much, since I actually sort of like his play, and I think he's town, just useless town that I'll off if he won't become useful.

[Killthestory]

Hebichan is scum.

Noticeably a threat to Hebi by the way.

[Killthestory]

not as sold as DGB and slan on the revolving door slot that is now dominator

I was joking about 'must be scum'. I do think the slot has a good chance of scum though based on the reasoning in 2309 (if you actually go and reread the part of the game I am talking about you will see what I mean).

I also don't see many slots left who have potential to be scum.

4. Killthestory - No
7. Performer - No
9. hebichan - Possible but Nah
11. Firebringer - Really Don't think so
12. RachMarie - Really Don't think so
15. Slandaar -
16. Reverie - Probable
18. DrippingGoofball - Really Don't think so
19. KickAssAndGiggle - Probable
21. Something_Smart - Possible but Don't think so

I like the Dominator wagon.

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I didn't think massclaim was optimal earlier in the day with just KTS claimed but it depends on you, Performer, I don't think it can be bad either so eh.

I really, really like this post.

[Killthestory]

Except for the fact where he labels Reverie as scum.

[Killthestory]

Performer is town.

Nero's pushing inconsistent shit. I don't like it a single bit, and I think he's got a lot of potential to be scum. Plus, Fire's reads have actually been really good this game, and I'm willing to say he can go 3/4.

Also, Hebi, if Kuroi was so obvtown, Fire should be a goldmine for you. Labeled two different scum, and the other two have the potential to be scum.

[Killthestory]

Mixed up Irao and Fire. Dammit.

[Killthestory]

Welcome to the jungle baby!

VOTE: MafiaTurtle

Town

Why would you vote in your first post without seeing anything scummy?

How else would you get the game started?

VOTE: Killthestory

See? It's fun!

Also votes town

Kickandgiggle, what do you think about jam and the wagon on him?

Feel free to make it KAAG, save the old keyboard.

Someone's gotta get wagoned early, may as well have been him. But Ness is now scumming the place up, so we need a new one.

Also before I forget this doesn't seem to be serving much of any purpose at the moment.

UNVOTE:

BZZZZ. Wrong.

VOTE: N e s s

Also another vote on town

Town-leans: GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS
Scum-leans: Ness/Reubus (for now)
Slight scum-reads: Jam

Too many nulls, get involved! Kop, Ilikebugs and Snarky in particular.

Slight scumread for GR, and KA&G

Leave me aside: what's wrong with GR? He posts what he likes...seems towny to me.

No scum scumread, all confirmed town at this point in the game.

Still feeling pretty good about GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS for town. Although GR could do with pulling his head out of his ass.

Iraonavp is probably town too. And Slandaar.

Still leaning scum on Ness/Reubus slot and Jam. Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

pisskop and Fraggernaut are both null despite posting plenty: I have no clue how to read either of them. SirCakez looks exactly as he did last time I played with him (Open 623), when I thought he was scum but he was actually town. Jury's out there. Performer sounds straightforward but I disagree with some of his posts (i.e. post 292, 298).

Other slots null due to lack of content.

UNVOTE: Reubus
VOTE: Creature

Feels useful.

Still hasn't even scumread scum, much less voted on them.

I don't even understand what Ness was trying to accomplish.

A few things I would like some clarity on

I don't understand the Jam wagon or the Creature wagon
Robster doesn't seem scummy to me, he doesn't exactly seem to have any scum merit behind his posting
Creature why are you voting Drixx exactly?

I voted Creature for dodging Egg's question, but I kinda liked his response to me, so...

UNVOTE: Creature

Ness was nailed on scum as far as I was concerned, and if you're not going to catch up a mere 21 pages (of mainly short posts) properly, then:

VOTE: Reubus

Another vote on town

Unfortunately, I do not endorse any of the wagons on Reubus Swagrid, Creature, or I.

I think you're town iraonavp, but I thought the Ness slot was scum and I don't like the way Reubus has replaced in but done nothing. So what don't you like about that wagon?

Drixx

Since you entered, I see exactly one post that has even an arguable piece of scum-hunting in it (435). Everything else is fluff or defensive. You can add me to the list of people who suspect you. Are you ready to commit to some reads yet?

Fragger

I agree with Egg: a loaded question is nothing to fear if you're town. I can't point to anything specifically you've posted that's scummy but I don't get good vibes from your posts.

Town Leans

Something_Smart, Slandaar, iraonavp, DGB, Performer, Egg, Killthestory, SirCakez

Suspicious

Creature, Jam, ilikebugs, Fragger

Scum Leans

Reubus, Drixx


If you're not listed, I either can't work you out or you've lurked.

It took a lot of posts JUST FOR YOU TO SCUMREAD ONE SCUM. That's very sad, and you have not voted scum as of yet. Only confirmed town.

There's likely one scum in {Drixx, Firebringer}. Neither have provided any reason for voting Guy, who is null as null can be apart from the hammer, both fluff posted their way through D1 and both, but Firebringer especially, replaced suspicious slots.

Considering the slow pace of D1...let's get this rolling:

VOTE: Firebringer

Aristophanes replaced a lurker and then contributed nothing but filler also. Need to see a lot more from that slot today.

I understand the misreading by Fraggernaut in his interactions between himself and iraonavp, and see how that could have happened. But Fraggernaut has been overly defensive, especially when talking to Slandaar, who along with Egg and Something_Smart are my strongest town reads. He could be scum.

Boonskies, jam and ilikebugs have contributed little. Could be scum in that trio also. Snarky also could do more but I get a whiff of town there.

Performer, DGB, Killthestory, Ozgin and iraonavp are fence-town for now.

PEdit: yeah, Performer is using the Gambler's Fallacy on Firebringer, but there's enough signs that he could be scum that it's unnecessary to do so.

Doesn't heavily push Fragger, pushes Ozgin as barely town. This is the type of shit I was looking for, very scummy interactions. Still votes on potential town rather than confirmed, but I find it funny that no confirmed scum have been voted on yet.

[Killthestory]

god you are so full of yourself.

Because I'm probably right on about 90% of my reads, if not 100%, and my read have the potential to progress.

Very comfortable with a VOTE: Nero Cain vote since I read only a couple of KAAG's posts and it screamed out scum the entire time. Time to ISO Cain a little and see their reads coming in.

[Killthestory]

Nero, not much to talk about, slightly scumreads Hebi, could be bussing, could just be legitimate scumreading him, could be pushing a mislynch, leaning bussing. However, Fire and Nero are also not of the same alignment. Hebi and Nero have the chance to be the same alignment, fairly high.

Start the Nero wagon

[Killthestory]

That single post detailed so perfectly as to why I'm wrong that I don't have any hopes of possibly making a counter argument against it! What a god

Nah, just associations. Pretty good associations, your reads also suck, and KAAG never voted a scum member until very late game, if they did at all.

[Killthestory]

That's nice.

[Killthestory]

So when are you gonna try and convince me you're not scum?

[Killthestory]

After Slan flips I'll be conf town.

Neat

[Killthestory]

Alrighty

[Killthestory]

4 scum in a 21 seems so small unless scum is superpowerful. I'd say 5 or 6 seems more resonable. I basically have a guilty on Slandaar but we don't have to quick lynch him but this day ending in anything other than a Slan lynch is a failure.

Alright man, it's not like scum wouldn't know if this were MyLo or not and would be pushing hard on a mislynch, any mislynch, that they could.

[Killthestory]

Man, you really convinced me there.

[Killthestory]

Thanks for calling my play awful and thick headed, but yet still not actively defending yourself rather than just flailing and using ad hominem.

Also, I have more scumreads than just you. That's why I said only 4 people were acceptable votes, reinstating that Fire became stronger town. 3 potential votes, 3 potential scum roles, no more than that else we'd have already lost.

[Killthestory]

I'm throwing a hissy fit lol?

Anyway, did you blatantly ignore the part about associations? That's what I'm going on about with two scum dead and a lot of confirmed town as far as alive and dead players go.

Sweet dreams are made of memes
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world
And the seven memes
Everybodies looking for some meme

[Killthestory]

Was Slandaar, who I'm still not fully sure about, Fire, and Hebi.

[Killthestory]

Because Fire is now stronger town, and I like Slandaar as town. You're not pushing Hebi as scum which is fairly strong scum for me at the moment. Therefore, potential scum team setup.

[Killthestory]

Because Hebi is more confirmed scum than Slandaar is

[Killthestory]

How is Slandaar confirmed town?

[Killthestory]

Scum*, apologies

[Killthestory]

I said there was potential for three scum, but anything more would have resulted in a loss for us already.

[Killthestory]

Don't know, don't really care. Just lookin' for scum.

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No lynching would not be smart.

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Cool. I don't need good logic to find scum.

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So you lynched Ozgin and Fraggernaut?

I shot Fragger.

I think if there is an SK, it'll be Slandaar. Otherwise, it could be anyone.

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Probably. Frankly, I don't care.

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Rach you have to give me a rap song not your own lyrics : (

Anyway, mass claim at any time, I frankly, once again, do not care. I'm only playing to my best right now, in the most crucial time, but otherwise, yeah, no fucks given.

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Hey, you guys want to know a secret? Is there a mafia rolebocker, or do you think there isn't?

Anyway, I'm willing to stick with the Nero wagon. Still kind of iffy on SS, need more time to delve into it.

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I don't know

I actually think mafia had a 1shot and there's 4 people all in a mafia team. Would it be even more powerful with a roleblocker, or would that be too powerful? Also consider this with an SK pleas.e

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Alrighty, so, as long as I have no fear of getting roleblocked, I still have a shot. I lied about my role. I'm a 3 shot vig. I can shoot anyone tonight long as they aren't bulletproof, or I get roleblocked.

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Sland could still be the Serial Killer if there is one.

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Also did you see the part where I claimed I had another shot?

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Performer I claimed I had a shot literally only a couple posts ago lol.

Anyway, if Slandaar is the SK, the SK hasn't been killing, meaning he isn't visiting anyone. So, your track result would just yield him as not visiting anyone. I think that makes sense. Otherwise, I'm stupid.

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Shoot SS tonight then?

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I was already going to shoot SS based off what you said, so revealing probably wasn't the smartest choice. Still, noted.

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Performer track Hebi tonight, and I'll shoot SS in the event that Nero flips scum.

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I believe Slandaar is near confirmed town as well.

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I am not feeling this game still tbh.
I could lynch Nero and Hebi, I think they both could be scum.
Lost on many other players.

mm

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The Nero wagon is stupid and Lazy. When I flip town make sure Slandaar and Performer are dead.

Neither of them are scum.

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Perf never said that?

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^this is a scum vote

I'm not consolidating anything. This wagon has all the signs of being a town wagon, the biggest being that everyone wants to lynch someone else a little more but is willing to compromise. I've never seen one of those wagons hit scum.

Tbh whoever's scum (hebi and Slandaar, probably) deserves to win a heck of a lot more than town does. *sigh* I'm definitely not signing up for another large, this was way too much effort and is way too disappointing.

Why do you play to win? That just causes disappointment. I don't play to win. I don't play to lose either. I just play to play, to better myself. To be the best I can be, and to have fun.

Why do you choose to play?

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I'm confirmed town, and Performer has been extremely fucking townie all day.

I could easily see this claim coming from scum as a last ditch effort. Fragger flashbacks.

Would a Jailkeeper make sense in this game? I don't really think so.

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Nero what was your N4 check? That's the most important night. Otherwise, I don't care about the other nights, including the last two.

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So far there's confirmed to be me, a 3 shot vig, a tracker, a JOAT, an ascetic enabler, and then there's the difference between you two.

Personally, I'm not sure why Nero wouldn't come forward the first day as the jailkeeper, and I'm not sure why they chose THIS LATE IN THE DAY to claim when statistically 1v1 tradeoffs always benefit town. That does not make any sense to me, and it definitely feels like scum fakeclaiming PR to save themselves.

I'm also not sure it makes sense with the general setup over a universal tracker. I can see that role in this because it's not heavily powerful, but it's also powerful enough for balance. I could see it with the way the game state stands, but the jailkeeper claim makes no sense. Plus, jailkeeper is such an easy fakeclaim for scum since it roleblocks and it protects. You can literally make up night actions with RNG, and you'll be fine seeing as your night actions can go all ways.

Overall, I don't believe the claim. It feels too much like the Fragger claim, and if I'm wrong, then Slandaar can get ultra vigged by me tonight. I don't really care.

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OH THAT MAKES SENSE

If you were attacked then Slandaar couldn't have been stopped from making the kill since the kills would go through, they just wouldn't kill.

Of course that'd be taking Nero's claim as true which it's not, but it still makes sense that BP would stop kills.

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Slan played good, but he confirmed himself as scum when he voted in LyLo. Combine that with the fact that Hebi's predessecor was obvtown, and they seemed to be generally AtE'y, Slan was the only good lynch. You were obvtown the entire tmie.

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Hebi, you could have gotten Slan lynched with just the LyLo argument.

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Voting in LyLo as town allows scum to quickhammer for an easy win. Town should never do it. If no one quickhammers, that makes the person who votes the person instant confirmed scum. Scum will always take the easy win over a forceful one unless they're ballsy.

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Atleast I get to laugh at KTS for thinking Slan was town

In LyLo, I pick Slandaar.

I don't know why you would laugh at me anyways though.

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Nero, it doesn't matter my reasoning for lynching you lol. Reasoning is nothing when it comes to finding scum.

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In a LyLo situation with either Rach or Hebi, it's always Slandaar. Especially if he preemptively votes like that, confirming himself as scum.

Still, I was wrong on Slandaar a day earlier, but that's because I thought Performer had confirmed him.

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I didn't understand it at the time, btu I just went with Performer

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bah Equinox you aren't playing mafia anymore? : (

[Killthestory]

bah Equinox you aren't playing mafia anymore? : (

I've been retired, more or less, since 2014. Sometimes, a game would catch my eye, and I'd delude myself into thinking that Mafia would be fun to play again. Mafia has its moments, and it's those moments that everyone celebrates and for which people keep returning. Otherwise, it's not a fun pastime, at least for me.

Equinox I am so sorry all that happened. I think I replaced in a game on your reverie account.

Yes, you did.

Oh, i see.

well, good luck in your future endeavors.