I think I figured it out and it doesn't take a rocket scientist.In post 2391, Chuck wrote:What is the reasoning for these reads?In post 2376, camn wrote:Townbloc -
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Probably BBT
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All others. For now.
And for the haters: these opinions are based on solid reasoning and hard bona fide scum slips. I will lay out the case when the time is right. For now, work with me, and it will all be revealed before the end.
P-edit - good, rb. Good.
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SpyreX claimed a vig shot on Expedience, so I was probably right.In post 2398, MathBlade wrote:
House you aren't this bad either.In post 2393, House wrote:
Why would scum shoot Expedience over BBT?In post 2389, Chuck wrote:If SpyreX and scum both shot Expedience then I don't even know what that means.
Either way like was already said, we need to find out who he probably jailed.
If BBT is a cop it could be wine.
If BBT is a cop Expedience could have jailkept BBT.
If BBT is not a cop and you are just wrong and Expedience didn't trust you he could have jailkept someone else and they were shot.
Cmon Chuck and House this is terribad.
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Why did you vote me to L-1 without even mentioning it?
camn, you heard my terms for cooperation. They haven't changed.
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Seriously?In post 2397, MathBlade wrote:
VOTE: ChuckIn post 2388, Chuck wrote:
Well that certainly puts a damper on my "Expedience would have jailed me so I can't be scum" line of reasoning. In fact it makes me look downright shady.In post 2387, SpyreX wrote:Sooooo I've got a potential wrinkle.
I'm a 1 shot vig. I shot expedience last night. Which means we should go a crumb hunting.
So I'm seeing a number of possibilities, knowing my own role and alignment I can definitely say Expedience dying is not my fault, so that means:
1. SpyreX is lying. And is scum who shot Expedience. And is paranoid of a track/watch which pins him to the kill, or is trying to get ahead of that, and draw out a potential cop claim too.
2. SpyreX is telling the truth, which means either scum no-killed (very unlikely), shot the same person (I've seen it happen before, and it has interesting ramifications), or scum was blocked/jailed (most likely option, in my opinion).
Chuck doesn't even hypothesize that Expedience could have saved the person who would have been shot.
Chuck seems smart why is he not pointing out all potential angles?
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I think a BBT jail is a definite possibility.In post 2398, MathBlade wrote:
House you aren't this bad either.In post 2393, House wrote:
Why would scum shoot Expedience over BBT?In post 2389, Chuck wrote:If SpyreX and scum both shot Expedience then I don't even know what that means.
Either way like was already said, we need to find out who he probably jailed.
If BBT is a cop it could be wine.
If BBT is a cop Expedience could have jailkept BBT.
If BBT is not a cop and you are just wrong and Expedience didn't trust you he could have jailkept someone else and they were shot.
Cmon Chuck and House this is terribad.-
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In post 2390, Chuck wrote:
This is the only thing I can find which feels like a pointer to who he would have jailed, and it implicated me most prominently, followed by Cass/camn. So that part, while not a total dead end, is not very helpful.In post 2245, Expedience wrote:VOTE: Dierfire
I read from page 84 without automatically skipping long posts and it hurt =( Don't like Dierfire's push on Cass, it feels manufactured like he was looking for reasons to scumread someone rather than evaluating from all the analysis he did throughout the game. There's really nothing else though and this is a compromise, I can't read his tone or distinguish between playstyle or anything.
These are my reads since they settled:
{House, rb, Saru}
{Mathblade, BBT, SpyreX}
{pitoli, Dierfire}
{Cass}
{Chuck}
However the possibility also remains that he jailed as a means of protecting someone. Which means he could have either jailed right, or jailed very very wrong, and in fact could have been right by proxy. So House, rb, and Saru are people I could all see being who he jailed.
All this assumes it's not just simply that scum and town might both have wanted him dead. Which also implicates me. So that's fun.
SoyreX could have been doing this to me on purpose I suppose, since I probably have the greatest chance of reading him correctly.
SpyreX, why did you shoot Expedience?@MathBlade-
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They could have thought/knew you were wrong about BBT. Or BBT didn't suspect them. Or BBT could be scum. There are lots of reasons.In post 2393, House wrote:
Why would scum shoot Expedience over BBT?In post 2389, Chuck wrote:If SpyreX and scum both shot Expedience then I don't even know what that means.
Either way like was already said, we need to find out who he probably jailed.-
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So, House defended BBT when others questioned him not providing reasons for reads or answering questions.In post 2400, MathBlade wrote:
I think I figured it out and it doesn't take a rocket scientist.In post 2391, Chuck wrote:
What is the reasoning for these reads?In post 2376, camn wrote:Townbloc -
Camn
Spyrex
Probably BBT
Scum -
House
Unknown -
All others. For now.
And for the haters: these opinions are based on solid reasoning and hard bona fide scum slips. I will lay out the case when the time is right. For now, work with me, and it will all be revealed before the end.
P-edit - good, rb. Good.
You didn't like that, and you say House is scummy for it. But then now you're doing the same thing for camn that House did for BBT, saying the equivalent of "smarten up" to people who question naked reads.
You're a flaming hypocrite, doing the same things you criticize others for, and you're also conveniently ignoring half of what I say and framing things out of context to make me look bad. VOTE: MathBlade-
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Blah blah someone at L-1
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It's scum!House trying to get a townread imo. Or defending buddy.In post 2411, SpyreX wrote:Also once again i see a mess of talk about bbt cop that just doesn't make sense. I'm still missing that side of it.-
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Ok, why is House being wagoned? I'm ok with it but I'm not sure if he's scum.
I'm wanting to see House, camn, Spyrex, or Math wagoned based off a basic eyeball of the wagons.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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What claims are out currently?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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And what did you claim?In post 2417, SpyreX wrote:Me and rb i believeShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Under what context did RB claim?
Inclined to believe your claim for now, but if there's ever two kills, I'm inclined to lynch you.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 2408, Chuck wrote:
So, House defended BBT when others questioned him not providing reasons for reads or answering questions.In post 2400, MathBlade wrote:
I think I figured it out and it doesn't take a rocket scientist.In post 2391, Chuck wrote:
What is the reasoning for these reads?In post 2376, camn wrote:Townbloc -
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Spyrex
Probably BBT
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All others. For now.
And for the haters: these opinions are based on solid reasoning and hard bona fide scum slips. I will lay out the case when the time is right. For now, work with me, and it will all be revealed before the end.
P-edit - good, rb. Good.
You didn't like that, and you say House is scummy for it. But then now you're doing the same thing for camn that House did for BBT, saying the equivalent of "smarten up" to people who question naked reads.
You're a flaming hypocrite, doing the same things you criticize others for, and you're also conveniently ignoring half of what I say and framing things out of context to make me look bad. VOTE: MathBlade
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Hey guys!
@chuck- it seems that I need your vote on House.
He is at 4 votes now (L-1), camn, rb, math blade, Spyrex
UNVOTE:
If you could just put him back at L-1 and give me the hammer, that would be great!
And House - let's start with some peripheral questions:
1) do you, or did you ever, really think that BBT was a cop. Please explain in moderate detail. And be honest. Lies are punishable by death at this point."if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2-
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What is this mysterious plan I keep hearing about?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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