STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

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Will try to catch up as soon as possible. Long long night.

UNVOTE:

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@shadow
how caught up are you with the thread?

On page 42 currently. I'm onto some things but don't expect anything spectacular till tomorrow evening at least.
My main focus currently is the development of the SC wagon. In Varsoon's last game we lynched scum day 1 too. But that didn't end up well. IIRC more than half the scum team was on that wagon.

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Creature says this and not long after there is a McMenno wagon out of nowhere

Scum usually wins Large Theme because there are often a bunch of lynchbaits and scum likes to kill players who put a lot of effort into the game leaving who doesn't want to do anything to LyLo.

Farside starts the wagon

Good, we can start with McMenno, he has a history of lurking a lot in scum games.

Sure

Vote: McMenno

Come on scum fire.

Followed by a vote by Fb on McMenno

Then farside immediately switches back to SC

Just reread McMenno after obi comment I'd go with Shiro in a heartbeat as a lurk sack.

Oh well.

Back to watching the fading wagon on sir cakez.

Vote: sir cakez

I don't see any reason for scum! farside to move off from a potentially growing McMenno wagon to bus her buddy SC.

Creature immediately jumping on the mcmenno wagon

VOTE: McMenno

SC is next on the wagon like a fat kid on the cake.
This sure as hell doesn't look like a bus. Plus reading early interactions(allying phase) between SC and McMenno doesn't look like s v s at all.

Oh neat a McMenno wagon
I've been interested in this wagon for forever, and Obi soft-defending him makes me feel even better about it

VOTE: McMenno

also grapes you don't need to explain your NC scumread anymore fyi

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^ for Cakez

Okay, you're town.

VOTE: Obi-Wannabe

This is terrible, what in that read list made you think Sc is town?

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Farside and McMenno are pretty much town.

This need death.

VOTE: Creature

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I'm up to page 60 and stopping there for today. I might be on later from phone.

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Oh right.

VOTE: Shadow_step

Nice question dodge and omgus.
You mind answering the question ?

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That doesn't seen convincing enough. SC replaced into that game and wasn't scum read and had no pressure on him until the latter days, this game is different.
How can you even compare the two?

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I mostly just have a list of players I am peeved at but I think TheWayItEnds stands out as good scumread material.

Vote: TheWayItEnds

Votes lurker slot,

gets pressured by people for reasoning, says this

I am voting TWIE because currently he hits the profile for likely lurker scum. Not my strongest scumread as someone seems to have inferred from my vote, but the one I want to vote at this juncture in the game.

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Actually you are totally right about Xkfyu. randommidget has yet to post during D1 and TWIE's posts are pretty shit in general.

Unvote
Vote: Xkfyu

(TWIE's posts are pretty shit in general but let me vote Xk for no reason)

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Unvote
Vote: McMenno

McMenno vs SirCakez, I prefer McMenno.
Mastin, why do you think McMenno is town? I am really interested.

When I have more time, I will iso Not Chara. They have posted an awful lot so it's hard for me to get a lock; I want to delve deep into their mind and play to get the understanding I want.

I prefer McMenno, why?
Don't wanna lynch my buddy cakes.

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Foxbird is guilty of the same things you're calling seraphim out for, shadow
Just substitute menno with snarky

IIRC Foxbird was actually busy in RL and her activity was affected by that, they weren't intentionally lurking.

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I'm not talking about lurking
I'm talking about convenient votes on lurkers, convenient scumreads

Voting lurkers is fine, I don't really have an issue with that. What I pointed out in my earlier was that Sera got cold feet when he was questioned about his vote and switched to another wagon which reeks of scum.

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I'm up for lynching Sera/Tfl slot

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VOTE: TFL

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VOTE: TFL

No. Stop being stewpid.

What is stupid about it? Did you even read my post about why I am scum reading him?

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Yep I did and it is attempting to start a DGB counter wagon.

I highly doubt TFL is scum.

What is this counter wagon bs?
Do you only ever see scum motivation behind everything and not town motivation ?
How about removing you rose tinted glasses and thinking that "he is voting his scum read."

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Yep I did and it is attempting to start a DGB counter wagon.

I highly doubt TFL is scum.

What is this counter wagon bs?
Do you only ever see scum motivation behind everything and not town motivation ?
How about removing you rose tinted glasses and thinking that "he is voting his scum read."

Nahhh this is scum motivation to try to knock out my future ally.

I can see why half the player list wants to lynch you.

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Hey A50, wanna ally with me?

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Farside, wanna ally with me?

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I voted Shadow_step because I thought their rolecard would be revealed.

What kinds drugs are you on ?

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busy weekend, watching the footie.
I voted Almost.

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Why almost over conftown? What do you think of Farside?

I played one game with town you and let's just say I don't trust your judgement

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PAGETOP bitches

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What do you think of Farside?

I've explained earlier that I think she is town because of her interactions with SC and mostly how she could have totally prevented providing any momentum to the SC wagon but chose to push for his lynch instead. I know scum bussing is a thing, but day 1 town cred is hardly worth it, doesn't last long enough. That read hasn't changed much tbh.

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I was allies with Skybird day 1. Grapes day 2. Nobody day 3.

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Shadow: did you get access to the PT with Skybird?
If so what was the activity level in the pt?

yep
Just 21 posts total, Skybird was trying to sort people in there, but fox was more or less inactive there so nothing much interesting to read.

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I voted for myself

Why did you self vote?

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I'll respond when you actually come up with something to respond to.
Right now you are just being Titus mk2

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@Shadow, What are your reads?

I have town leans of varying proportions on A50, Mcmenno and farside.
grapes, random andRR are nullish town.
Tfl is null scum.
xk, creature are scum reads.

No idea about the rest

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I voted for myself

Why did you self vote?

this is why

VOTE: shadowstep

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@Everyone who is on, If you had to pick a scum in RR/Almost/Skybird, who would you pick and why?

Sktbird, because I have town reads on the other two.

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what makes random town
what makes xk scum

mostly meta.
I've played tonnes of games with Xk offsite and I've also hydraed with him. This doesn't look like his town game at all.

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And yet he isn't scum.

??

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what about random?

gut

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Town:

Not mentioning the obvious ones.
MagnaofIllusion, Kraskaeqsque (i know, weird right?), TheWayItEnds, grapes, Not Chara.

Null:

Reasonably Rational, SnarkySnowman ( was town before), Randomidget, Mcmenno, Farside (I guess some kind of town that goes 3p? Not sure), Shiro, creature

Leaning Scum:

Fuzzylogic, DrippingGoofball, Almost50

Scum:

Skybird, Xkyfu, Shadow_Step

Shit slinging much? Or do you actually have anything.

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Creature, how is the lurking going ? d:

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@ shadow: these were the comments skybird made about the PT she was in with Fox.
Would you agree with her comments?

I can confirm that Foxbird was active in our PT and I have her as town.

My alliance with Farside went through.

Titus, grapes: i'd like to speak to either of you privately. an alliance with one of you two for day 3 would be ideal.
i would also love to ally with mastin, but if we would not be able to talk, i think it would be a less helpful arrangement than the above two players.

on Foxbird: i don't find anything terribly towny about her. still, if she was indeed especially busy, i'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and she what she comes up with today.

Skybird: could you talk about what Foxbird was like in your topic? if you were both more active in there, i can't know anything about why you have her as town if you don't explain. same question to Fox about Sky, because why not.

In the PT, we talked about reads and the reasons behind those reads. The conversation felt natural and easy which is why I feel she is town.

Well, here I am. Who wants to join my cause of stopping the Cluster?

I do!

To all, I was busier than expected this weekend and am still several pages behind. I should be able to catch up tomorrow after work.

Can't say active, can say active compared to activity in the game thread.
Foxbird's first comment is something to the effect of "Please Skybird don't be scum."
Fox was scum reading xk, snarky and grapes. Thought grapes vs NC was definitely not TvT or SvS.
Thought KTS was pulling a gambit, Fire is trolling. That's about it I think.

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@Fire talk to me about your Kraska town read.
I feel she is shouting so much to mimic her town play.

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@Xkfyu – Since Yume has kicked me to the curb want to ally?

Sure thing.

What's up with you this game?

VOTE: Xk

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Did the convo look natural? How many post did fox make total?
I think sky was wking fox and I'm trying to understand how sky got a town read from Fox with that pt.

10 posts. Skybird was sharing her reads, didn't say what her read on my slot was.
Seems natural to me when read it idk.

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This is a wasted vote and continuing to purse it will end up with you being lynched before Xk.

What do you think is odd about me? That I've discussed allying with someone who isn't scum?

I didn't get anything.

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I didn't get anything.

Um, sorry? This means nothing to me.

I didn't get what you asked.

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So I should drop my scum read on you because, you are apparently doing stuff off thread?
Like in the Maf PT

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This is exactly like bloodborne, when I don't know wtf is going on because I was never a part of the master of hunt or whatever that thing was.

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Creature, wanna ally?

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Cool.

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So you come back here to try and sell a case on me and snarky lol gtfo

When I'm not short on time, I can explain why. It's a combination of things. Their contributions to this game (rather, lack thereof),

some hypocrisy on their part

, flat pushes with no conviction (empty tone, essentially), plus some really bad, damning positioning in VCA.

explain the "some hypocrisy on their part" part

Why are you getting so defensive over a single vote ?

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You shut up stupid tunnel fuck

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You shut up stupid tunnel fuck

What did you say about me you lil bench

You just keep calling me scum for no reason whatsoever and don't try to engage with me at all. Either you're dumb town or it is just convenient for you as scum.

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shadow/kraska could be scum/scum just based on how focused they are on being pointless towards one another for no reason.

I'm trying not to react to that BS too much to keep the clutter away from the thread. If I was scum with that, I'd be aaking to be replaced, its fucking annoying.

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VOTE: Kraska

@Farside join me?

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I'm not doing nothing but responding to Kraska's tunnel. Go iso me.

Again this game is full of leaders who just want to do their own thing and won't listen to anyone. I've already said I don't wanna lynch farside because I don't believe she is scum.
I've expressed my views on scummy players but apparently they ate not scum(Xk) and I don't know for what reason.
Maybe talking with him in the alliance will help me sort him. So I'm looking forward to that.

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Also, since you're here. What atr you views on farside, dgb and kraska? Also why aren't you voting anyone ?

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You really need to explain the trajectory here. You were voting Xk for lynch (and thus must still have thought he was scum despite me telling you he isn’t) and yet agreed to ally with him?

Maybe talking with him in the alliance will help me sort him. So I'm looking forward to that.

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Yeah, that's the main problem I have with your case kraska. I asked you to make a case on shadow using JUST his iso, not foxbirds, and I don't believe you ever did so.

i can do that
1) dodged the entirety of the math episode, took potshots at creature, a lynch that was clearly not happening on that day
2) come day 3, and suddenly he's nonchalant about creature. no attempts to push him or get people to vote him even though it seems there's enough creature-is-scum-sentiment today for the wagon to gain decent traction
3) oh and...(well this should be number 1 if we're going by sequence) cased seraphim on things that his predecessor is also guilty of. and once i pointed that out, he retorted with "she was busy irl". i know she was and that has nothing to do with anything i've said and i'd never not factor people's real life circumstances into my reads on them. the fact still remains that in what little time foxbird had to contribute to the game, she had selective reads she couldnt explain on the very lurkers who mastin called scum. okay, even if you dont think this means that slot is scum, foxbird didnt explain her scumread on snarky either, even though snarky provided enough content to read him off of...after i called her out on her reads, she posted new reads after being caught up and again didnt explain any of them. anyway back to the topic at hand. shadow called seraphim scum for doing the same things foxbird did.
4) doing nothing today basically

@shadow: can you explain your read on creature?

Last two points are complete nonsense and have been brought up opportunistically when asked. She never talked about this before, take note. Its all conveniently bought up.

Creature is still is scum read but there is literally no interest in lynching him. Which is why asked him to ally with me to sort him.
I presented my case in Creature day 2 and nobody bought it, since then I haven't seen anything scummy from him. So what is gonna change it today? Nothing. So im not just gonna sit here and shout Lynch creature that is not an effective way to get anyone lynched.

what is your read on Kraska?

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Sorry phone posting, I meant point 2. Not last two points.

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And 3 is bullshit anyway. The person who I replace why would I bother reading what they have done?
Also from what I know of foxbird after playing a game with her is that she rarely has good content and reads. So that point is really like scraping the barrel.

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Lol it doesn't work that way.
Are you saying that my reasoning should be fox found this slot scummy so it must be town? Or something to that effect?

Also that is a terrible way to develop reads.
If you already assume someone is of x alignment there will be tonnes of bias. I don't develop reads that way. No thank you.

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Also, Kraska your point about Seraphim is total BS. You asked me this on day 2. I told you that my case on him wasn't lurking. It was how he got cold feet and was switching wagons for little to no reason what soever.
But as scum you obviously conveniently chose to ignore it as if I never said that.

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Meh, don't read this game over the weekend and out come 20 pages from nowhere.
Will catch up later.

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Too stupid people they do.

The whole scum team has premptively lost all my respect

lol true

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I wouldn't shoot Yume as scum, ever.
She is one of the few players on my list of "never night kill no matter situation as scum".

Also +1, after playing one game with her earlier, it is pretty obvious she can't figure out who scum were if they hit the back of her head with a pebble.

I don't get this Yume kill, was it a fear kill because of her role or something else?

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Her iso is meh, she was voting farside though.

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VOTE: Snarky

Gg

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dear friends
i can tamper with the stress and increase it by 4
should i ?

Yes please.

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I'd love to say yes but no.
I've looked at his iso over and over, esp day 1, only initially does he give a reason to vote SC which is meh. Then switches to farside and his vote later on looks like a bus.

@XK you mind explaining this? I'm only good at catching scum not good at getting town to agree with me lol

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Grapes I think

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Skybird, grapes, nobodinho, creature/Xk

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Yes, I'm still gonna stick my neck out and say that she isn't mafia. She's claimed TP, we need to lynch scum first.

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That makes no sense what so ever. ^^

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I think that post is basically a scum claim from TFL. Snarky simply naked voted SC. How does that not classify as a bus?
The whole dgb wagon is useless. She was traitor scum! Snarky won't know if dgb was scum.

VOTE: TFL

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Taking town to -4 is so pro scum. It cannot come from town. Literally

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If you didn't want to give scum one easy Lynch why the hell did you use it ?

Makes no sense

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What is the case on twie?

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So we have 3 scum flips and you want to lynch based in hypothetical be. Okay we might as well hand the game to scum ffs.
Let's lynch obscum tfl .

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It says that dgb didn't know who scum were. So how does that make twie scum?

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I voted Snarky obviously.

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@Mastin why did you target TWIE over Kraska and Snarky who you were more strongly scum reading?

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Just sayin, by the way.

Shadow_step's posting today is in a VASTLY different tone from his posting yesterday.

And his pushes are godawful today.

Uhh no.
You are scum reading Snarky and calling my push awful? dafuq what

I don't care what you think, read it like you want. I'm more motivated when I'm more confident about my scum reads, otherwise not so much.

What would you do in TFL's position?
Save a scum slot or at worst a useless town slot and take us to -4 or lynch him and cause less damage?

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@Varsoon, please confirm that I am useless. Thanks.

I can only use this in season finales so...

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It's kind of like an IC but not really.

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Wait, that's it?

That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.

I told you I got the crappiest role lol

I thought this clears me because I'm obviously not responsible for the scum events like Message recieved?

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It specifically says non-factional in there. Like A50 said, all it does is confirm that if you're scum, you're just a goon.

And if you're town, you terribly misplayed this.

wait wut

Wait, that's it?

That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.

I told you I got the crappiest role lol

I thought this clears me because I'm obviously not responsible for the scum events like Message recieved?

Why weren't you trying to appear as a strong or of some sort? Or pushing people hard andbeing super active? The only value a VT has is in their scumhunting, and getting killed instead of an actual PR.

-Cerb

Nobody listens to me *shrug*

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Knowing this, Skybird more than likely really did try to kill Grapes. Therefore, TWIE wouldn't have revealed Skybird's attempt to kill Grapes, giving town yet another confirmed town, if they were scum together.

That makes sense

that makes xk confirmed then

Xk was conf town after skybird flip anyway.

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Fuzzy is 90% town with snarkys flip (only way he's not is if his team deliberately let snarky live because they were afraid they would be lynched if they didn't have him around as a distraction), farside flip is most relevant for this particular scenario since she was, during the time the event was decided, the other most likely lynchee.

This sentence is a contradiction in itself, why is Fuzzy town because he saved Snarky. He was lynch bait anyway
I already said he did this because he's scum and wanted the meter to go to -4 ffs

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Second who is in an alliance?

Xk was supposed to be my ally, oh well.

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my scum pool is twie, shadow and maybe shiro
i wont even consider a farside wagon until i see these three flip or if farside proves, once again, to be antitown enuff to warrant a PL

You still think I'm scum, have you bothered to read anything?

No way this slot is town btw

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VOTE: TFL

VC please

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If you can stop events, why didn't you stop the cluster event?

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@ Shadow
should clarify you have not been on either a town or scum lynch,,,,,,,,,,,

Didn't realise that.
I live in a different time zone (+x GMT) so when all the lynched happen I'm asleep.

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Player that could have an alliance today but don't rr and shiro.
Shadow who were you in an alliance with yesterday?
Moi who were you in an alliance with yesterday?

Xk, we were going to ally again today.

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Phone posting at rest stop during 12 hour drive.

No Alliance. Pissed that Random flaked out on Gem chat and my post about allying.

Creature absolutely needs to explain how he had a Night action result he shared with XK and Shadow in their PT overnight if Town was supposed to be foregoing actions to prevent the Scum event. He's prob scum was XK and my conclusion.

Farside should have been taken care of days ago like I said. Too bad players like RR spent too much time fighting Titus and me on that end.

VOTE: farside to demonstrate lack of vote power.

@Creature can you answer this ?

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if Town was supposed to be foregoing actions to prevent the Scum event.

How?

What are you asking?

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Hey farside what do you want me to do with regards to TWIE? Really? I'm actually sure I'm the only person whose actually directed any commentary or questions to him today. Hell, some people seemed to fucking forget that we were waiting on a vig shot from him last night.

Stop attempting to push this narrative of us just ignoring TWIE while we go after you, because it's patently untrue. There's simply more to talk about with regards to you than there is for TWIE.

You and TWIE are not guaranteed to share an alignment. This is something we discussed yesterday. The arguments for you as scum exist wholly independently of TWIE. The only significance he has with regards to you is in relation to the Beach-a-palooza, and he is not the ONLY way (as Titus originally thought) that you could have spoofed your extra votes in that event, therefore it's not impossible for you to be scum without him as scum. By the same token, if he's scum, it doesn't make you any more or less scummy, it merely weakens an existing defense you could use.

And we have possibilities in mind beyond you, we already said Shiro is a suspect, and you've also seen our suspicions about the gems for a decent portion of the game, there could easily be scum among them (since I'm not particularly inclined to believe they're actualy confirmed to one another as sharing an alignment when asserting that they have such confirmation is something we can't check and which is wholly beneficial to them). Creature we're torn on, there were scummy behaviors on his part earlier in the game, and then some stuff I liked personally, and since then he's sort of been a nonentity, until this discovery that he wasn't foregoing his actions for the cluster. ..but given all the events and stuff we had, I feel like not that many people were actually forgoing their actions anyways, so that's not even the most suspicious thing.

Also, you can't just brush off my previous post by calling it bullshit when it would be EASY to disprove with a quick look at your ISO, if you did what you said you had done.

But you haven't, so all you can do is hope that if you keep repeating that it's bullshit loud enough people will just believe you without checking your facts.

Creature/shadow: is there anything xkfyu said in the pt yesterday/last night that town should know? Any opinions on the game state etc?
MoI/Random: who are the gems top scumspects, as it were?

-Cerb

Pedit@kraska: because she deliberately only put enough votes on snarky to lynch him if he was town.

He wasn't talking about his reads a lot in the PT except scum reading Snarky. I guess it was because he didn't trust Creature.
He was town reading TWIE because he cleared grapes using his event amongst other things.

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Btw, what do you mean by foregoing actions?

Not using your NA.

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No it doesn't.

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I read it, but I didn't understand.

Seriously? You aren't some newbie.

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How many threats to earth are left? That's the kind of game we should all have in the back of our mind when trying to solve.

Based on numbers started and 3p with the gems I think 3 scum left.

You asked about rr and why he would push for just me, why not, I'm easy to lynch, he can blame Titus for it after with all her thoughts on me.

Kraska as I said is more about how she is in the PT.
It's hard to explain, but I think you should ally with her to see what kind of read you get.

Isn't he Conf town because of the beach event ?

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Farside is voting Creature not the other way around

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Every time I look at the OP to see who's still alive. Randomidgets name is there and I just die a little bit.

Grapes what do you think about TFL?

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Why is he town?

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What exactly did he not talk about?
I'm scum reading him because of his event which took us to slice of life.

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Other than his previous slot's day 1 shenanigans.

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VOTE: TFL

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With kraska cancelling the event I'd slot her just below blue status and would not be pushing on her today.

Kraska used her individual event to cancel out a mostly useless scum factional event.

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Creature knows I'm town, pushing my lynch would be a scum claim. good try

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And allowing for a scum lynch without a double scum kill is useless to Town again exactly how? Please explain in full this line of thought for me.

That's not what I said. Nobody was getting lynched today because of only two people being able to vote.
What exactly is the huge scum benefit to activate this event, they get a free kill at night.
What is the benefit for scum kraska to cancel this event? Town cred, lots of it
This event has the most utility in lylo/mylo, just activating this would give scum the win. Why was it activated so early?
It would make sense that it was planned all along for scum to activate it and then Kraska cancels it for town cred.

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Shadow did you claim you'd be confirmed town?

No, he misinterpreted what I told him. I cleared it in our alliance.

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Also question do you have no event at all and have we seen someone flip without an event yet?

Nope. I think it's because of my flavour.

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When did he "reveal skybird's attempt to kill grapes" I'm fuzzy on that part. How did you know chara passively protected me?

See this is fucked I don't know anything it's like playing the game with a blindfold on.

Read the effects of the Historical fiction event which occurred at day start yesterday.

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In post 9144, Shadow_step wrote:
This sentence is a contradiction in itself, why is Fuzzy town because he saved Snarky. He was lynch bait anyway
I already said he did this because he's scum and wanted the meter to go to -4 ffs

Elaborate.

They can kill whoever the F they want at -4, look at last night's kill. They killed Titus the IC.
With the kill on you which had failed on night 1 I think scum would be paranoid about the protective roles. Confirmed town are a huge nuisance to scum, so killing Titus without -4 would run a risk of failing cause she would be the most likely to be protected I think?
Get my point?

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Shadow, what's your opinion on leaving farside22 alive?

We can't have her in lylo/mylo region if it comes to that. But i'f rather lynch scum today.

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I'd*

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That's incorrect XK was town reading me.

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I'll try to post as much as I can, I'm going to be v/la till the 2nd, cause festive season.

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Varsoon is the actual scum xDD

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Fine with allying with you farside.

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I'm with MoI here, Creature is pretty obv scum

Where is your creature vote?

[Shadow_step]

I'm not exactly thrilled with any of the major wagons right now.
Farside never really read her as scum.
I think TWIE would be voting one of creature/farside aka his counterwagons if he was scum. Or he is scum with Creature and doesn't want to vote there cause there is a GS guilty on him and figures Creature is more likely to make it endgame than him.

[Shadow_step]

I'll sheep MOI for now.

VOTE: Creature

[Shadow_step]

So who wants to ally with me? Apart from TFL and kraska. No point allying with scum.

[Shadow_step]

*analysis following this worldview which looks incredibly unfavorable to Creature and some other select players*

??
It's completely favourable, SC has put him as null town.

The statement SirCakez is a master busser is accurate.

and you don't think he(SC) is aware of that?

This would have us looking at Shiro, Foxbird/Shadow_step, and TWIE.

When he placed TWIE at null?

[Shadow_step]

Don't have enough time to read through, who is allying with me?

[Shadow_step]

I'll hammer in time. Just making sure alliances are in order.

Who are you hammering?

*too lazy to check VC*

[Shadow_step]

Fine.... I tried to give you a chance

vote TWIE

I am the vig.... I shot Fire. I thought Yume was hinting that he was part of the dimond authority. This was before I realized we were dealing with Rubies. I can shoot at any time but I have a sure kill at + ?. I dont want to give it away. I have to be an alliance to use my ability. I thought about shooting Far but was concern that her blocking ability would block it despite being a sure kill. Also I wanted to shoot someone who was likely scum. I get a refund at the season finale

I willing any question I can.

Waiiiiiiiiit a sec, I don't get your explanation for killing FB.

Also, if we want to flip TWIE just for info. Why are you voting TWIE, you can vig him tonight?

[Shadow_step]

This is exactly how CCed scum react. He is selling the narrative that both him and TFL are town, he is treating TFL like he is town.

Can we lynch this now?

[Shadow_step]

So I might be wrong about TFL.
Wtf were you doing saving Snarky though :/

[Shadow_step]

Submitting mastin

[Shadow_step]

I think I would have bussed TWIE like crazy after that GS guilty on him, I'd expect scum did the same thing. I mean there was literally no point in defending him or not bussing him. He was going to get lynched sooner or later, why not get free town cred while you can. Anything else sounds dumb play.

VOTE: Creature

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@Mastin
I'm not really understanding why A50 is not scum for you?
Is it just because he was hard defending SC day 1? Well SC was possibly the most powerful scum role in the game because of him being the "leader". I wouldn't discount it.

[Shadow_step]

ok I failed in my alliance......so either Kras did not write to ally with me or we were blocked.

I don't think forming alliances can be blocked(?)

[Shadow_step]

I don't have any events.

@mod can allying be blocked?

[Shadow_step]

Anime is the real shizz, cartoon is meh

[Shadow_step]

I need to be in an alliance to use my vig ability.... I think I was blocked bc someone prob thought I might kill the wrong person,,,,,,,

Allying with other players will always resolve independent of all other abilities.
Unless otherwise stated, no ability will normally interact with each player's ability to Ally.

More like Kraska though you might vig the right person and didn't send your name.

VOTE: kraska

[Shadow_step]

Thought*

[Shadow_step]

Oh, and, the alliance....
That's still plenty weird
Can alliances be blocked? I mean even if that's possible I can't fathom a reason why ours was blocked
Maybe I have slept on fuzzy? I don't know....
It maybe some clown thought we're both scum? Can someone explain this?

Shit I just re-read my role pm
I can't form alliances if stress is -2 or lower
Sorry fuzzy for being such a clutz

4 mins between these posts, having internet problems.
Kraska plays a lot of games, I expect her inbox is full of stuff, role PM which was sent ages ago.

This is more fake than Kim's ass.

[Shadow_step]

FFS

I never said you lied about that, you lied about this.

Shit I just re-read my role pm

[Shadow_step]

How so

4 mins between those posts, stop playing dumb.

[Shadow_step]

4 minutes between the posts which means what?

You couldn't have gone into your inbox, scrolled a million miles down and read a role PM which is generally long with your internet issues and posted what you did.

[Shadow_step]

Are you seriously trying to justify ur vote with this
Pm's on page 2
And that was the first part of my pm...

More misrep Jesus

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More like Kraska though you might vig the right person and didn't send your name.

VOTE: kraska

Can you explain this better?

TFL can only vig people when in an alliance so..... He had a scum read on kraska IIRC

[Shadow_step]

Sounds like BS, game already has what 5 masons + and IC and on top of that a role which can mod confirm themselves as town and make another person IC? Yeah lol no way.

[Shadow_step]

I was going to give you titus' role, grapes. But then I chickened out of it and decided to wait until the next season finale

I don't see kraska as town not using this ability in last season finale, you really thought you were going to survive these many days and nights till episode 8?

[Shadow_step]

You know you're upset you'll have to waste a nightkill on me

Would have nked you ages ago if I was scum.

nice try

[Shadow_step]

As a final note, all scum have guaranteed safe-claims and roles that fit the flavor of these fake-claims. Do not try to flavor-game this setup.
Scum all have had their flavor crafted before I crafted any of the town roles--I have built this setup around scum having effective, believable safe-claims.
Flavor-claims are not anywhere near the sort of town-clear that you might expect from other games.
Furthermore, I have given scum measures to punish players who are attempting to flavor-game the setup. Claim flavor at your own risk.
We are here to play mafia rendered under the flavor of Steven Universe--I will have no pity for anyone who takes the flavor as a means to attempt to outguess the moderator.

[Shadow_step]

Scum all have had their flavor crafted before I crafted any of the town roles--I have built this setup around scum having effective, believable safe-claims.

If IIRC SC did the same thing on day 1 when he was going to get lynched, he almost got away with it.
If we are going to start believing claims from scum we might as well shoot ourselves in the foot.

[Shadow_step]

Who is scum again, shadow? Shiro and who?

You and Creature, outside chance of Shiro/TFL

[Shadow_step]

will have already awarded one of town with bulletproof

Except Titus didn't have BP.

[Shadow_step]

Scum can't afford to keep me alive till lylo, let alone the next season finale, because if i do sth like give titus' role to one of the remaining town players, they are bulletproof and can publicly confirm themselves as town

This makes zero sense as well, if you can give anyone's ability to anyone. How does it matter what their alignment is? You can give scum an IC ability and they can confirm themselves as town. How does this help in anyway?

[Shadow_step]

But then, would Varsoon give an unbelievable fakeclaim?

You just believed it.

[Shadow_step]

TFL- Is so obvious derp town.....Was on the DGB wagon and the TWIE wagon. Saved Snarky ( who flipped town btw) also is playing his typical derp town play
Mastin- was confirmed town by Yume
Far- everything points to having a weird town/ third party role

I think we should maybe hold off on Kras....... If we do get to Lylo and he is not town confirmed we can just nuke him. Also I can see Vasoon making up such a weird role. Playing with Vasoon I can she it within his wheel house

For me that's leaves (in no particular order)
Shadow
Almost
RR
MOI
Creature
random

You think Shiro is town?

[Shadow_step]

I think it'll hit scum with a very high chance realistically speaking

You also said that about all the other town lynches you strongarmed
Ideally I should be surviving till lylo or atleast the next season finale to atleast make some use of my abilities.p But truth be told, ever since I fell behind on late day 1 and early day 2, I've had little to no idea what was going on.

My cluelessness is probably a liability to town at this point so go ahead and lynch me

bc Martin won't stop vomiting long walls of text (g*d knows how much time they put into writing those) until im gone

Anyway shadow and shiro are still scum, creatures town. I have confidence in my reads and all my townreads have been correct so far.
Foxbird allying with akybird means little when you take into consideration the fact that farside is the one who suggested the match and they had no reason to deny especially since they recognised the context that prompted far to suggest the match (far modded a recent game where both sky and Fox were scum)

Fake scum bravado

Keep farting in the wind, shadow
I said my situation will sort itself out, if

I'm still alive by season finale, lynch me.

I will have already awarded one of town with bulletproof and scum will get wifomed on the kill choices. So it's win-win

Please don't lynch me till lylo, I can prove that I'm town.
Yeah right

[Shadow_step]

at that time barely anyone had claimed. only mastin and titus did i think. i had no clue about anyone else
i can only use this during season finales

This is a lie, mod had confirmed I was a VT on season finale.

[Shadow_step]

How did you miss that when Twie claimed to be vig?

[Shadow_step]

at that time barely anyone had claimed. only mastin and titus did i think. i had no clue about anyone else
i can only use this during season finales

This is a lie, mod had confirmed I was a VT on season finale.

not exactly true..... the mod confirmed you as being vanilla not as vanilla town . There still a chance you might be scum.... maybe a vanilla goon.

I could be but I know I'm town.
That's not the point of the post. Kraska lied about the fact that only Mastin and Titus had claimed.

[Shadow_step]

Yeah this I didn't check, bla bla. Too dumb to be scum card has been wayy overplayed, Twie did the same thing. Stop town reading people for it.

[Shadow_step]

It was a mod post, in purple font. How can one possibly miss it?
It isnt like it was written in ultra small font on the corner of the post.

What makes you think otherwise!

[Shadow_step]

We should talk quicking about alliances.
I would like to get into an alliance with shiro.
If not him, then TFL you can come with me. You know I"m not scum and I've been very good about not disbanding with anyone since day 1.

I think I should ally with TFl. He isn't reading the thread at all and I need to tell him something.

[Shadow_step]

Cause I think you are town and your current reads are bad. I can help you with that.
There are some things I want to say which should be fairly obvious, but if I say them explicitly in the thread there is a chance that scum kill me.

[Shadow_step]

Actually you know what, fuck it.
If scum decide to kill me before the masons/mastin. I'll consider it a victory.

[Shadow_step]

Spoiler: Skybird role pm

Skybird was Eyeball, aligned with the

Threats to Earth

.
Due to this death, stress has been lowered by 2, towards Slice of Life.
Eyeball's role functions as follows:[/smallcaps][/b]

Spoiler:

Eyeball, A Ruby In Need of Closure
I'm Ruby-1F4 Cut-4ND. I fought in the war for Earth.
You are aligned with the Scum Faction. You are a Gem.
At the very least, I thought Jasper might have some answers, but... If you ally with any player, you will learn if they are a Human or a Gem. So long as you are allied with a player, you are immune to all actions. I never thought I'd get a chance like this. If stress is at -2 or lower, your factional kill will have enhanced priority when overcoming protective effects--it can still be redirected or protected against by similarly 'enhanced priority' protection. If only you and/or Jasper are the final living members of your faction, any factional kill you attempt will always have enhanced priority. This kill will still fail on any non-legal target, such as any player that counts as 'out of game' for any reason. What will the Diamonds say when they hear that a Ruby defeated Rose Quartz? They're gonna give me my own Pearl! If no other 'Gem' characters exist outside of the scum faction, you gain control of a unique 'Pearl' account. I will send the details of this account to you if this is ever the case. This unique Pearl account will show up in the list of living players and on vote counts. You can submit votes with this Pearl account--both you and this Pearl account can never be the only voting players on a lynch. You can not post from this Pearl account otherwise. This Pearl account may be voted for and affected by Climax actions. This Pearl account can not form alliances. Each Climax Phase, you may have this Pearl slot perform one of the following actions: -This slot may protect any target player from being killed--any kills targeting the protected player will be redirected to the Pearl slot. This may not be used on consecutive Climax Phases. -This slot may target any player to cause their submitted action to fail. This may not be used on consecutive Climax Phases. EVENT: Sworn to the Sword EPISODE EVENT: Exposition Only--Activate this ability during the Climax Phase. PRIORITY: 3--if used during Episode 1, it is priority 0. REQUIREMENTS: You may only activate this ability at +2 or higher Stress. No requirements if used during Episode 1. Flavor is tied to the Episodes, "Sworn to the Sword" and "Crack the Whip" The following information will be publicly posted in the game thread: If used during Episode 1, the following will happen: You will form an alliance with the player with the flavor of 'Steven Universe'. You will gain a double-vote for the rest of the game. The following information is private and only known to you: However, Steven will also become immune to any action submitted by you--only you will know this. Steven will not be immune to your Pearl's actions or your -4 Stress Factional Kill. If used during any other Episode, this Event has the following public effects instead; Town may perform two lynches during this Episode's Exposition. After one player is lynched, the player lynched will die, then the votecount and deadline will reset for a second lynch. I got nothing else to lose. You are aligned with Threats to Earth . In order to win the game, your faction must equal or exceed the number of other surviving players left alive. In order to win the game, at least one Threat to Earth player must be alive.

The current Stress is -1:

basically skybird had a double vote already and if they had killed all gems in the game who were not scum. Skybird would have got an extra vote. That's 3 votes and almost an auto win in lylo.
Add that to the fact they she could check if the person is a gem or not by allying with them.
It kind of explams why they killed Yume with an event. She was a gem.

So really what you need to ask yourself is why is scum skybird allying with scum shadow day 1, when there is zero information to gained and is crappy scum play.

[Shadow_step]

I was going to tell this to TFL in the alliance PT so I could direct him to a better vig target.

[Shadow_step]

So who am I allying with?

[Shadow_step]

@mastin

– Since I know RR will withhold information about his role regardless of alignment why don’t you explain why RR should show up as a “guilty” to Not Chara’s investigation.

Yume didn't tell you?

I got the information from her. Apparently they have a hammer-based killing power.
That's about all I was told. That hammering will kill.

That seems a bit pointless other then to kill me when I couldn't be lynched.

Reread
Shadow said that if the Rubies killed all the Gems than sky would get an extra vote..... this does not seem true. I could not find anything like that reading Sky's flip.

@ Shadow
You allied with Skybird night 0 right. Just making sure I get the info right

Reading Sky's flip Vasoon says that Sky had a Unique Pearl account..This can mean only two things. 1) there are two Pearl account,,,, a real one or a fake one or 2) that the Pearl account does not exsist

Moi
How did you know that you were targeted

Random
Did you decide to release NC or was it a mutual choice between You and MOI. Also why did the Gem wait so long to release NC?

What the bloody hell is wrong with you?

Spoiler: skybird role PM

YOU ARE ALIGNED WITH THE SCUM FACTION. YOU ARE A GEM.
AT THE VERY LEAST, I THOUGHT JASPER MIGHT HAVE SOME ANSWERS, BUT...
If you ally with any player, you will learn if they are a Human or a Gem.
So long as you are allied with a player, you are immune to all actions.

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D GET A CHANCE LIKE THIS.
If stress is at -2 or lower, your factional kill will have enhanced priority when overcoming protective effects--it can still be redirected or protected against by similarly 'enhanced priority' protection.
If only you and/or Jasper are the final living members of your faction, any factional kill you attempt will always have enhanced priority.
This kill will still fail on any non-legal target, such as any player that counts as 'out of game' for any reason.

WHAT WILL THE DIAMONDS SAY WHEN THEY HEAR THAT A RUBY DEFEATED ROSE QUARTZ? THEY'RE GONNA GIVE ME MY OWN PEARL!
If no other 'Gem' characters exist outside of the scum faction, you gain control of a unique 'Pearl' account.
I will send the details of this account to you if this is ever the case.
This unique Pearl account will show up in the list of living players and on vote counts.
You can submit votes with this Pearl account--both you and this Pearl account can never be the only voting players on a lynch.

You can not post from this Pearl account otherwise.
This Pearl account may be voted for and affected by Climax actions.
This Pearl account can not form alliances.
Each Climax Phase, you may have this Pearl slot perform one of the following actions:
-This slot may protect any target player from being killed--any kills targeting the protected player will be redirected to the Pearl slot. This may not be used on consecutive Climax Phases.
-This slot may target any player to cause their submitted action to fail. This may not be used on consecutive Climax Phases.

I think you are just looking for a reason to scum read me and throw shade on me to set me up for a future ML or so that you can justify your shot on me eh.

Twie wasn't a vig at all, so you didn't actually CC him, you could just be a scum vig. Everyone seems to be forgetting TFL's event which is why we have been stuck in negative stress forever it seems.

[Shadow_step]

1st quote shouldn't be there.

[Shadow_step]

Just because you think it doesn't make it true.
Well if tfl said I'm shooting moi I think I have a right to say fuck no and step out but I don't think players are that dumb

He is.
Can't put this in a better way.

If you guys let him get away with a shot like that, I swear to fuck.

[Shadow_step]

Well this is good news.....

so either the kill was blocked or scum did not take action last night. If we knew which it would help us find scum

You sound like you know what happened. Did you forget to send the nk?

[Shadow_step]

I've never been in a game where scum forgot to send the nk. I don't understand why anyone would come to that conclusion.

[Shadow_step]

With so many protective in the game, I'd be surprised if scum don't have a vig.

[Shadow_step]

@Creature what do you think about TFL?

[Shadow_step]

Creature: how the hell did I stop your action Night 6

You can stop the nk by blocking people?

[Shadow_step]

Alliance was successful

[Shadow_step]

Mastin

[Shadow_step]

For me to be scum you have to assume scum were making ultra sub optimal plays with a powerful PR of theirs. Kind of like rolecopping your own buddy as scum.
Not saying it's impossible but the amount of power Skybird would have access to makes it heavily unlikely.
Anyone suspecting me at this point is just trying to expand the mis lynch pool to suit them.

[Shadow_step]

I think its TFL/Creature/Shiro in these 3

I have zero trust in TFL and what he will do, if he shoots town we lose a lynch.

[Shadow_step]

I have played with Cerb before and I honestly don't think he is dumb enough as scum to trigger an event which can lead them to be POE'd like this, plus when there is a mod confirmed IC and there is a mason confirmed townie. It was obvious that none of the scum were likely to be going to get that reward.

Never lynching
MOI/random/mastin/RR

Very unlikely to be lynching
Grapes

Rest all could be scum
But I'm pretty sure its in the three I mentioned before.

[Shadow_step]

I wish I could say I didn't reveal I was BP or something but nah.

[Shadow_step]

@MOI
while I respect your opinion ..I will not be chained down by the will of the masses. I do not feel it is the best way to go and can lead to be influenced by scum. I will take the consensus of the town into consideration but I feel like I should not be bound by it,

Ok well here is the deal.

The only reason you aren't a viable lynch option at this point is that I think you aren't scum due to the Firebringer kill. If you haven't noticed there are plenty of others who are happy to put you on the shortlist for rope. There is absolutely no reason at this stage of the game for you to not cooperate with a plan that the majority of the players agree with if you are Town. There is at most 2 scum left. The chances that the pool of players is significantly influenced by scum is minimal.

However there are scum reasons for you not to want to cooperate. So the fact that you even before a list is agreed on ou say "Imma do what I want" in the game-state as it is troubles me greatly. Enough so that I'll reverse my decision to protect you if you aren't going to work with everyone on this.

That's my line in the sand. Take it or leave it.

TWIE flipped his scum buddy in that hysterical fiction thing in order to get people town read him. Do you really think that's a reason to town read him?

[Shadow_step]

Wanna elaborate why or don't wanna vote your buddy Creature so the vote park?

[Shadow_step]

Scum getting desperate is rather lovely to watch.

[Shadow_step]

First you buddy up to TFL and then throw shade on him? Nice lmao

[Shadow_step]

I'd like to ally with you, Mastina.

You are aware that it grants no PT right ?

[Shadow_step]

@MOI

You think TFL is town just because he shot FB.

[Shadow_step]

...

We gave you shit because what you did creates perfect cover for scum to hide under. Without those 5 votes as the floor, all the people who claimed singleton votes on people wouldn't have had a place to hide. Without Titus using her conftown, our plan would have went off perfectly, Mastin would have had like 17 points or something, and we could have tested the people who showed up with low vote counts, and scum would have had less room to hide in and would have had to justify their choices.

There's a big difference between deliberately obfuscating the results of the event while simultaneously decreasing the chance that conftown ends up winning the event and working to ENSURE conftown wins and town gains maximum information.

-Cerb

Here's a presentation of what you have been doing.

Maybe you did all that to fake scum hunting and look town.
I mean sky voted mastin according to her so scum knew the plan occurring to your theory so......you look just as guilty in my book.

Of course Skybird knew about the plan. We had already established that Yume was Steven, and her ability to talk to both Mastin and Skybird was why we wanted to ally with her on D2, to maximize the reach of the basic plan we had formulated for using our event. We didn't know at the time we wanted to chat with her that the gems had a PT(though there were hints), but she pretty much confirmed it to us in the hood when we mentioned that she'd be able to talk to three other people(by which we meant mastin, skybird, and skybirds ally), and she responded with suspicion about how we knew she could talk to that many other people.

What do you mean here's a presentation of what I have been doing? And...did you read the wall Drixx posted earlier? I know you did, because you responded to things he said in it. In it he outlines a fair number of things that have occurred in game that really don't make sense for scum!us, especially when it's all taken together. Individually maybe, but all of it is absurd. A posited scum us, if we wanted Yume dead(which, ya know, is a question mark in and of itself, she was townreading us and Skybird) would have never put stress up to the point where xkfyu could kill Skybird, and anyone who says otherwise either has never played with us and didn't bother researching us at all, or they're so deeply tunneled on us that they're ignoring the obvious contradiction between what's happened this game and the way we play. There is NO REASON(we know of, it's possible there was some sort of restriction on the usage of that power that made it necessary to use it then) why we wouldn't have just waited until some other opportunity to kill her without risking such a powerful role. Scum!us doesn't let their team walk into so many traps THAT WE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT. I mean, I suppose you could posit that we're some sort of mastermind who deliberately cost their team a kill and got their strongest role killed, while creating the PoE pools that the town has been using to great effect, specifically so we'd be townread as a result...but consider that if skybird were still alive, and town had one less member, scum!me only needs ONE more mislynch if we assume a 6 man team, as opposed to the THREE they need at this point.

I don't even know why I'm bothering answering you right now. I told Drixx I'd let him deal with you but it's fucking irritating all the shit you keep taking out of context and without accounting for everything else that's been stated just to push your agenda. It's obvious to me that you're not aligned to the town. Shall we count the reasons why?

1) You kept using your power throughout the cluster instead of, ya know, TRYING TO KEEP SCUM FROM KILLING PEOPLE.
2) You're claiming to be a 1x lynchproof NK immune ascetic roleblocker alliance destroyer who CAN win with town but can also win with your own win con. Do you even realize how fucking ridiculous that sounds? Your claim was believable until you modified it to include being BP. Our absolute BEST CASE scenario here is that you're simply third party and will just exit the game when you complete your goal, but I refuse to let town just fucking sit around and pretend like your claim makes sense for town and ignore that you could quite easily simply win the game and screw us all over.
3) Even AFTER Titus popped her IC YOU KEPT THE BULLSHIT UP WITH HER, AND THEN YOU STARTED IT WITH US. You just keep vomiting all over the thread and hiding among the excrement of the sewer it's become. You know who keeps throwing up a smokescreen by arguing endless with conftown? People who have shit to hide, like a ridiculous claim for town to make, NOT fucking town.
4) Now that you seem to have been forced into a position where you have to admit you were lying about your previous claim to make it more believable, here you are, back to your MO all game of attacking a convenient target to force all eyes away from your bullshit claim.

Now, everything Drixx said in his earlier post was spot on, he's just not fucking me and didn't ask Varsoon the right question, and he has a huge hard on for playing nice with neutrals(something I used to ruthlessly manipulate him all game long in SF), and it's making him give you the benefit of the doubt when he really really really shouldn't do so.

With all that said...we aren't going to lynch you anytime soon. You managed to convince 2 of our conftown that you're no threat, so this is all probably a waste of words, but fuck it. Someone needs to call you out on this shit.

This is the last I'll say on this unless I'm alive in lylo. Time to stop feeding the fucking troll.

-Cerb

This actually makes sense. Farside keeps changing her story too many times.

Do you think lynchproof+deathproof makes sense as a town role?

[Shadow_step]

vote Shadow

better than having to use a bullet on him

Basically a scum claim

[Shadow_step]

Have an alternate explanation for Firebringer’s death?

Scum wanted him dead?

Let’s discuss …

During Climax 3, Firebringer and Not Chara were both killed.
At this time, however, their role information will not be made public--the stress will not change as a result.
At the start of this Exposition phase, Skybird has been returned to the game, yet also has been killed due to the Event, "A Trap For Clods".
The Event "A Trap For Clods" has now fully resolved and is no longer ongoing.
Skybird was Eyeball, aligned with the Threats to Earth.
Due to this death, stress has been lowered by 2, towards Slice of Life.

1. Firebringer was not killed by an Event. Reference anytime someone dies due to an Event (as shown with Skybird above) and it is explicitly stated.

2. Not Chara and Firebringer both died that Night.

So we have a situation where two players were killed at Night from non-Event sources. No-one has claimed a Not Chara shot. Fuzzy has claimed a Vig shot on Firebringer that no-one has refuted.

Do you think scum have a non-Event manner of killing given they have several Event methods (Remote Detonation, the Cluster)? Do you think scum with a non-Event kill ability (even if one-shot) would waste it on Firebringer?

--

@MOI

You think TFL is town just because he shot FB.

Yup. Same questions to you that I just posed to Almost above.

Because scum thought fire had a powerful PR?
Because his reads were good?

How many lynches do you think TFL survives without that shot on Fire?

[Shadow_step]

TFL has been positioning himself to shoot random/moi for a long time now cause lol fake pearl non sense.

Both Creature and TFL are pretty much doomed because of POE so they've piled on me for BS reasons.

[Shadow_step]

@ Shadow,,,,,
How so..... I am the vig. Also between you and creature I think you are more likely scum

Even if scum killed Fire that still leaves NC,,,,,, You still have to explain the kill

How Almost think this bad of playing is scum I don't know, If I am scum I should be driven out of town with pitchforks and torches

Why am I most likely scum?

Oh I forgot. Scum vigs can't be a thing. Right

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: TFL

I'll switch to Creature to secure a lynch but I'd rather lynch this.
He shoots MOI/random tonight we lose conf town and a lynch.

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And then you say scum are throwing shade at you.

Give me one solid reason why I'm scum. I'll wait for it.
The fact that you think I'm scum because I'm playing like some other player in some other game speaks for itself.

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I keep feeling paranoid about grapes being scum who is just been coasting after hard bussing SC day 1.

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@Shadow
POE

I could be a scum vig but I am not,,,,,,,,


Not shooting MOI or Random.....I am prob not shooting anyone tonight as I don't have a sure shot

What is that POE based on?
Then why did you ally with farside?

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If anyone is allying with Mastin it should be the gems only.
If you want to know why ask her.

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Fine, I'm not gonna face the music end game if we just didn't lynch scum tfl cause lol not so reliable setup spec and he shot a lynch bait he can't be scum.

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VOTE: Creature

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NP Varsoon.

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lmao grapes I told you not to buss so much out of nowhere, our plan of Sky lying that she attempted to kill you was working perfectly until you decided to bloody fuck up.
Anyway best of luck you can dodge that vig kill tonight so I'll just hammer myself when I'm on l-1

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Fuuuuuuuuuuccckkkkkkkk, not this topic. I hate my phone ffs

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Sorry grapes/Varsoon. Excuse me while I go bang my head on a wall. ://///////

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You know this is trolling right Fuzzy?

No way he mistook a PT for the main thread. This is WIFOMing from scum and should be ignored.

In fact you should unvote to give everyone a chance to check in.

Totally is

VOTE: Shadow

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The longer grapes lives the more doubt there will be.
Plus I clearly said I was posting from my phone so it is possible.