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[Drone]

At times, I'm thinking that is the case.
2 is plenty room for scum variations.

[TTTT]

Why don't we color all of them and I walk you through it

do eet!

[TTTT]

Others should chime in on this.

The player discrediting an ascetic result, yet knowing I was not blocked, makes sense for the partner.

hold up.
who and where did someone say they knew you weren't blocked?

I had to read up on the ascetic thing, and OK, it makes sense as a role modifier that could give 'no result' to the GS investigation. Are there any other roles that could do the same? Is ascetic necessarily scum, or just more likely in the current scenario?

Prima facie I'd say that we should ask for a claim from whoever Titus' target was, and then discuss whether it's plausible and lynch the hell out of it if not. If the target flips town with no modifier that would suggest a no result, then Titus is a no-brainer lynch the next day.




I'm clearly out of the loop here, can anyone explain?

VOTE: Shannon

Why leave out I was roleblocked?

@Titus
you brought up ascetic
shannon discussed it and said, "Are there any other roles that could do the same?"
I don't at all believe that 2140 is shannon "discrediting an ascetic result, yet knowing I was not blocked"

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So overall I'm not sure that JOAT + 2-s follower is enough investigation tools.
1 jailkeep, 1 gunsmith and 2 follows altogether is maybe 1 cop's worth of investigation power.

UB isn't really invest but I'd still count it towards that from the longer lifespan it'd give either.

Then there's either strongman or RB confirmed via n1, assuming transcend BP'd (which the JK claim 100% suggests) which is scum power on the other side.

Unless there's an invest CC I wouldn't even consider titus lynch here.

What makes you think this isn't enough investigative power? Could be a low power game on both sides if all the mafia has is something like a roleblocker. Plus there's the neighborhood claim from Drone/Titus. You could argue that if one of them is town and the other is scum that it serves as investigative power for the town neighbor to discover if their neighbor is scum through a PT.

That said it's more likely titus was roleblocked than targeted ascetic.
Ascetic COULD exist and fits JK (not unreasonable) but follower flip suggests against it. Makes follower almost a non-factor and titus being roleblocked as claimed pr feels more likely than out of all targets she hit an ascetic.

Titus coming to the conclusion of Ascetic rather than RB does not make sense to me. She is supposedly known for being good at setup spec so I don't think if she had a genuine motive to crack the setup that she would arrive at Ascetic after seeing the LUV flip.

[shannon]

Re-reading today, have some questions:

Well there goes my other townread. Only one nightkill again I'm starting to wonder if we even have a vig. Titus what did you do last night and who did you target?

I think it's possible, but not likely (not the simplest explanation) that we have a vig. The description of the BP power says that it blocks one attempt at killing, so perhaps a vig and scum both targeted Transcend. (Again, not simple, probably unlikely, but I thought of it).

I got no result on my gs check. I am treating this as a guilty on the target. Result at midday.

Is it noon yet?

*snip*

If Drealm flipped town, and so did LUV..
We might as well check Shannon again.

The remaining check would be a jailkeep, right? I can't tell you how keen I am to have Titus jailkeep me and see what result she comes up with.

[Drone]

She shouldn't be coming up with a result, if she jks you. It's protective+blocking action..

Now I don't think you took "check" for what I meant.
Not target you, get some answers.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I considered that yesterday which is why I pointed out there was only one kill again and that I was starting to wonder if we even have a vig, because I was thinking it was entirely possible we had a vig who wasn't sold on you or LUV N1, or even that you or LUV were the vig and that's why neither of you died. I still thought it was possible you were the vig and LUV was scum that got lucky in claiming you went nowhere when you chose not to use your shot(s), but I didn't say anything because I didn't want you to use it as fakeclaim to incriminate LUV if you were scum.
Titus intends to wait a week to announce apparently, that's what she meant by midday. Middle of the Day Phase.
Drone I think means we should look into the possibility of you being scum when he says "check". I don't think he means to wait until tonight to investigate you with a role we probably don't have.
pedit:ninjaed

[Drone]

shannon seems really scummy but I don't have the time right now to tell you why

I think drone is on it though from what I can see

setting up the WIFOM, yep!

more attention here later I hope

This.
Rask case.
Titus case.

I'm fixated on lynching Shannon.
Until further notice.

[shannon]

PEdit: I've read the rest of the posts and I can't get to reply tonight because I spent such a long time writing this. Hope it makes sense and at least sparks conversation.

Here's what I've got about Titus's target:

It's not SSBM (see 2145 asking whether the target is SSBM's buddy)

It's not me (see 2185 where Titus says I'm scum with the target of the check. She also implies that SSBM and I are not scum together)

It's not Drone. In 2125 Titus says Drone would have shot her target. **note: For Drone to have shot the target, Drone would need to be scum and the target town.Unless Drone is a town vig - but why vig someone who is going to be investigated anyway? This doesn't add up to me**

In 2166 Titus is 'reasonably sure' her target is scum due to "jumping out of the wood work to attack me," and she is telling Drone who the target is.

Now we are looking for people who have 'jumped out of the wood work' to attack Titus as of 2166.

Rask hadn't posted yet.
Sesq hadn't posted yet
Impoetic hadn't posted yet
Gerry - only asked a question (did she or did she not tell Drone who was targeted) so that's not an attack.
TTTT - voted Titus ('something's not right) in 2154, but I would not call that 'jumping out of the woodwork to attack'

The only people who might be even remotely construed as 'jumping out to attack' are SSBM, Drone, and me. But she's already said that none of us were her target.

In 2169 Titus says that:

"No result suggested scum, but it's the rapid change in underlying thought.

Yesterday, the theory was scum roleblocked rb.
If Titus lives, scum have to mess with her. I must out my selected action immediately. Strongly suggests there's an ascetic buddy who needs protecting."

The person who asked Titus immediately to out her target was SSBM, back in 2119. 2144 would be the 'rapid change in underlying thought'. She has already asked SSBM whether she's the target's buddy back in 2145.

In 2168 Drone has received the name of Titus' target, but this is enough for a vote on Titus.

2169 "The rapid votes indicate my target is scum".
The votes to that point were:

Titus votes Shannon in 2142
SSBM votes Titus in 2144
TTTT votes Titus in 2154
Drone votes Titus in 2168

The phrase 'rapid votes' implies someone later on the wagon is suspicious, because there's nothing 'rapid' about being the first vote. The problem here is that Titus can't have it both ways. If it's SSBM who is voting Titus to defend a scum buddy, then the other votes aren't suspicious because they're genuine and the phrase 'rapid votes' is plain wrong and Titus' whole statement is basically rubbish. TTTT's rapid vote could be opportunistic if she suspects she's been the target of the investigation. Drone's could also be opportunistic, but given that Titus has earlier said she thought Drone would shoot her target, this doesn't make sense.

TL;DR: I can't make any good sense of what Titus is saying, and I think that's because she's lying.

[Drone]

I considered that yesterday which is why I pointed out there was only one kill again and that I was starting to wonder if we even have a vig, because I was thinking it was entirely possible we had a vig who wasn't sold on you or LUV N1, or even that you or LUV were the vig and that's why neither of you died. I still thought it was possible you were the vig and LUV was scum that got lucky in claiming you went nowhere when you chose not to use your shot(s), but I didn't say anything because I didn't want you to use it as fakeclaim to incriminate LUV if you were scum.
Titus intends to wait a week to announce apparently, that's what she meant by midday. Middle of the Day Phase.
Drone I think means we should look into the possibility of you being scum when he says "check". I don't think he means to wait until tonight to investigate you with a role we probably don't have.
pedit:ninjaed

I'll tell you this;
Whether Titus is lying or not, I do not not know.
But whether or not you are scum, I'm pretty sure that you are.

You're all over the place with your posts, changing contexts and points.
I'm no longer able to follow your points.
Do you have any reads at all?

[Drone]

Wrong quote.

[Drone]

It's a reply to Shannon's 2258

[Sesq]

And Sesq.
I'm not getting enough from Sesq.
Add TTTT to that.

How about make an actual case

[Drone]

How about make an actual contribution and be part of the town, if you are?

[Drone]

It might no longer be day 2, but I still await your existence.

[Titus]

So overall I'm not sure that JOAT + 2-s follower is enough investigation tools.
1 jailkeep, 1 gunsmith and 2 follows altogether is maybe 1 cop's worth of investigation power.

UB isn't really invest but I'd still count it towards that from the longer lifespan it'd give either.

Then there's either strongman or RB confirmed via n1, assuming transcend BP'd (which the JK claim 100% suggests) which is scum power on the other side.

Unless there's an invest CC I wouldn't even consider titus lynch here.

What makes you think this isn't enough investigative power? Could be a low power game on both sides if all the mafia has is something like a roleblocker. Plus there's the neighborhood claim from Drone/Titus. You could argue that if one of them is town and the other is scum that it serves as investigative power for the town neighbor to discover if their neighbor is scum through a PT.

That said it's more likely titus was roleblocked than targeted ascetic.
Ascetic COULD exist and fits JK (not unreasonable) but follower flip suggests against it. Makes follower almost a non-factor and titus being roleblocked as claimed pr feels more likely than out of all targets she hit an ascetic.

Titus coming to the conclusion of Ascetic rather than RB does not make sense to me. She is supposedly known for being good at setup spec so I don't think if she had a genuine motive to crack the setup that she would arrive at Ascetic after seeing the LUV flip.

Setup spec is not in a vacuum.

Ascetic is absolutely the better option, particularly with a follower. It's not something I am wedded to but Shannon's sheer panic at this point and logical focus are more telling. She has seemed more focused on discrediting me and finding my target rather than actual scumhunting.

Take her latest shade. Titus is scummy because I cannot deduce their check that they are sitting on. Her actions are intellectual flailing.

The VCA will come laterish but definitely today. I need to head to court.

[Titus]

Spoiler: Day 1 Colored VCs

VC 1.01

Sesq (3)

: ssbm_Kyouko,

Transcend

,

rb

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

shannon (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Drone (1)

: Kohai

rb

(1)

: ironstove

Transcend

(1)

: Sesq

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic,

drealmerz7

, Drone, TTTT

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Transcend is V/LA until the 26th.

Drone is V/LA until the 26th.

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.02

Sesq (3)

: ssbm_Kyouko,

Transcend

,

rb

rb

(2)

: ironstove,

drealmerz7

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

shannon (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Drone (1)

: Kohai

drealmerz7

(1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Drone, TTTT, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Transcend is V/LA until the 26th.

Drone is V/LA until the 26th.

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.03

rb

(3)

: ironstove,

drealmerz7

,

Transcend

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

:

rb

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

shannon (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Drone (1)

: Kohai

drealmerz7

(1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Drone, TTTT, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Transcend is V/LA until the 26th.

Drone is V/LA until the 26th.

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.04

rb

(3)

: ironstove,

drealmerz7

, Sesq

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

:

rb

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

shannon (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Drone (1)

: Kohai

drealmerz7

(1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Drone, TTTT,

Transcend

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Transcend is V/LA until the 26th.

Drone is V/LA until the 26th.

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.05

rb

(4)

: ironstove,

drealmerz7

, Sesq, TTTT

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

:

rb

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

Drone (1)

: Kohai

drealmerz7

(1)

: shannon

TTTT (1)

: Drone

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

Transcend

,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.06

rb

(2)

: ironstove, TTTT

TTTT (2)

: Drone,

rb

Impoetic (2)

: Kohai, Sesq

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

drealmerz7

(1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

Transcend

,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

Nooooo my pagetop!

VC 1.07

rb

(2)

: ironstove, TTTT

drealmerz7

(2)

: shannon,

Lil Uzi Vert

Impoetic (2)

: Kohai,

Transcend

TTTT (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

rb

, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

Missed more pagetops. That's what I get for watching a movie instead of the thread =(

VC 1.08

Impoetic (3)

: Kohai,

Transcend

, ironstove

drealmerz7

(2)

: shannon,

Lil Uzi Vert

rb

(1)

: TTTT

TTTT (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

rb

, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.09

Impoetic (3)

: Kohai,

Transcend

, ironstove

drealmerz7

(3)

: shannon,

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

rb

(1)

: TTTT

TTTT (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.10

Impoetic (3)

: Kohai,

Transcend

, ironstove

drealmerz7

(3)

: shannon,

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

rb

(1)

: TTTT

TTTT (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

Transcend

(1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.11

drealmerz7

(2)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

ironstove (2)

: Kohai, Sesq

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

: iamafluffyrabbit, Drone

Kohai (2)

:

Transcend

, ssbm_Kyouko

Impoetic (1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: ironstove

rb

(1)

: TTTT

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (1)

: Impoetic

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

I guess sleeping was a mistake =P Thanks Sesq for the VC <3 It helped me check my own.

VC 1.12

drealmerz7

(2)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

ironstove (2)

: Kohai, Sesq

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

: iamafluffyrabbit, Drone

Drone (2)

: ironstove, ssbm_Kyouko

Kohai (1)

:

Transcend

Impoetic (1)

: shannon

rb

(1)

: TTTT

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (1)

: Impoetic

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.13

drealmerz7

(2)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

ironstove (2)

: Kohai, Sesq

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

: iamafluffyrabbit, Drone

Drone (2)

: ironstove, ssbm_Kyouko

shannon (1)

:

Transcend

rb

(1)

: TTTT

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, shannon

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

VC 1.14

ironstove (3)

: Kohai, Sesq, TTTT

drealmerz7

(2)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

Drone (1)

: ironstove

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

shannon (1)

:

Transcend

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, shannon, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until 29th.

VC 1.15

ironstove (3)

: Kohai, Sesq, TTTT

drealmerz7

(2)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

Transcend

(1)

: ironstove

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

shannon (1)

:

Transcend

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

:

drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, shannon, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

I need something new to put here.

VC 1.16

ironstove (3)

: Kohai, Sesq, TTTT

drealmerz7

(2)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

,

rb

rb

(2)

:

Transcend

,

drealmerz7

Transcend

(1)

: ironstove

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, shannon, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai has requested replacement.

VC 1.17

rb

(3)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, Sesq

ironstove (2)

: Kohai, TTTT

drealmerz7

(1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Sesq (1)

:

rb

Transcend

(1)

: ironstove

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, shannon, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai has requested replacement.

VC 1.18

rb

(4)

:

Transcend

,

drealmerz7

, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko

ironstove (1)

: gerryoat

gerryoat (1)

: TTTT

drealmerz7

(1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Sesq (1)

:

rb

Transcend

(1)

: ironstove

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic, shannon, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

I ate 14 jam drops yesterday and now I have none. =(

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

VC 1.19

rb

(5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko,

Lil Uzi Vert

-- L-2!

ironstove (1)

: gerryoat

gerryoat (1)

: TTTT

Sesq (1)

:

rb

Transcend

(1)

: ironstove

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic, shannon, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

VC 1.20

rb

(6)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Sesq

-- L-1!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, ironstove

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

:

rb

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, shannon

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

VC 1.21

rb

(6)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko,

Lil Uzi Vert,

Sesq

-- L-1!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, ironstove

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

:

rb

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (1)

: Impoetic

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

VC 1.22

rb

(5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

-- L-2!

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, iamafluffyrabbit

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

VC 1.23

rb

(5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

-- L-2!

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, iamafluffyrabbit

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

VC 1.24

rb

(4)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7,

ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, iamafluffyrabbit

drealmerz7

(1)

: Drone

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.25

rb

(4)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, iamafluffyrabbit

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Drone

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.26

rb (5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat

-- L-2!

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, iamafluffyrabbit

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Drone

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit has requested replacement.

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.27

rb

(5)

:

Transcend

,

drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat

-- L-2!

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, Titus

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

: rb

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Drone

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.28

rb

(5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat

-- L-2!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, ironstove

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Drone, Titus

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.29

rb

(5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat

-- L-2!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, ironstove

TTTT (1)

: Titus

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Drone

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.30

rb

(5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat

-- L-2!

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, Drone

TTTT (1)

: Titus

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.31

rb

(5)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat

-- L-2!

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, Drone

TTTT (1)

: Titus

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.32

rb

(6)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat, ironstove

-- L-1!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, Drone

TTTT (1)

: Titus

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Someone please bring me coffee. I'll love you forever.

VC 1.33

rb

(6)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat, ironstove

-- L-1!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, Drone

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

: Titus

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Does anyone still play Pokemon Sun and/or Moon?

VC 1.34 (FINAL)

rb

(7)

:

Transcend, drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat, ironstove, TTTT

-- LYNCH!

gerryoat (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

: Titus

Transcend

(1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

:

rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Flip incoming.

Spoiler: Day 2 Colored VCs

VC 2.01

Titus (1)

:

drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (10)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone, shannon, Sesq,

Lil Uzi Vert

, gerryoat, ssbm_Kyouko, TTTT

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

I'm sleepy. Like all the time recently. Because it's SO FREAKING HOT IN AUSTRALIA.

VC 2.02

Titus (1)

:

drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (10)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone, shannon, Sesq,

Lil Uzi Vert

, gerryoat, ssbm_Kyouko, TTTT

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Movie suggestions, people! I need some.

VC 2.03

Lil Uzi Vert

(3)

: gerryoat,

drealmerz7

, TTTT

NOT VOTING (8)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone, shannon, Sesq,

Lil Uzi Vert

, ssbm_Kyouko

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Thanks, you guys are the best. <3

VC 2.04

Lil Uzi Vert

(3)

: gerryoat,

drealmerz7

, TTTT

ironstove (1)

: Sesq

NOT VOTING (7)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone, shannon,

Lil Uzi Vert

, ssbm_Kyouko

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Drone has been prodded. As the prod falls over the weekend, they have 72 hours to post.

VC 2.05

Lil Uzi Vert

(3)

: gerryoat,

drealmerz7

, TTTT

ironstove (1)

: Sesq

Titus (1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (6)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone,

Lil Uzi Vert

, ssbm_Kyouko

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

ironstove has been prodded. As the prod falls over the weekend, they have 72 hours to post.

VC 2.06

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: gerryoat, TTTT

Titus (2)

: ssbm_Kyouko,

drealmerz7

ironstove (1)

: Sesq

Impoetic (1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (5)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone,

Lil Uzi Vert

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Zzzzz I posted 2 VCs on the same page again yesterday. Apologies.

TTTT is V/LA until the 12th.

VC 2.07

Titus (3)

: ssbm_Kyouko,

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: gerryoat, TTTT

ironstove (1)

: Sesq

Impoetic (1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

TTTT is V/LA until the 12th.

VC 2.08

Titus (5)

: ssbm_Kyouko,

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

, shannon, Drone

-- L-1!

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: gerryoat, TTTT

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Sesq

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

TTTT is V/LA until the 12th.

VC 2.09

Titus (4)

: ssbm_Kyouko,

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

, Drone

-- L-2!

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: gerryoat, TTTT

NOT VOTING (5)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Sesq, shannon

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

As ironstove has not picked up his prod I am searching for a replacement.

VC 2.10

Titus (4)

: ssbm_Kyouko,

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

, Drone

-- L-2!

Lil Uzi Vert

(3)

: gerryoat, TTTT, Sesq

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic, Raskolnikov, shannon

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Oh, a pagetop!

VC 2.11

Titus (2)

:

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: gerryoat, Sesq

Impoetic (2)

: TTTT, Drone

gerryoat (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic, Raskolnikov, shannon

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

VC 2.12

Titus (2)

:

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: gerryoat, Sesq

Impoetic (1)

: TTTT

gerryoat (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Raskolnikov, shannon, Drone

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Pagetop? Pagetop!

VC 2.12

Titus (2)

:

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: gerryoat, TTTT

gerryoat (2)

: ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Raskolnikov, shannon, Drone

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

No pagetop. =(

VC 2.13

Titus (2)

:

drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

gerryoat (2)

: ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

Raskolnikov (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

: TTTT

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Raskolnikov, shannon, gerryoat

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

VC 2.14

gerryoat (3)

: ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, shannon

shannon (2)

: Raskolnikov,

drealmerz7

Titus (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

: TTTT

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (3)

: Impoetic, gerryoat, Drone

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

VC 2.15

shannon (4)

: Raskolnikov,

drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

-- L-2!

gerryoat (1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

: Drone

Titus (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

: TTTT

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, gerryoat

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

VC 2.16

shannon (3)

: Raskolnikov,

drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko

Raskolnikov (1)

: Sesq

gerryoat (1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

: Drone

Titus (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert

(1)

: TTTT

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, gerryoat

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

VC 2.17

shannon (3)

: Raskolnikov,

drealmerz7

, ssbm_Kyouko

Lil Uzi Vert

(2)

: TTTT, gerryoat

Drone (1)

: shannon

Raskolnikov (1)

: Sesq

Sesq (1)

: Drone

Titus (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Titus

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

@mod

@mod would a follower detect BP activation by JOAT?

Thought I already answered this, whoops. In the case of Transcend's JOAT bulletproof, it was an activated bp rather than passive, and as such would be treated as a self targeting protective role.

VC 2.18

Lil Uzi Vert

(5)

: TTTT, gerryoat, ssbm_Kyouko,

drealmerz7,

Titus

-- L-1!

shannon (1)

: Raskolnikov

Drone (1)

: shannon

Raskolnikov (1)

: Sesq

Sesq (1)

: Drone

Titus (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

NOT VOTING (1)

: Impoetic

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

VC 2.19

Lil Uzi Vert

(5)

: TTTT, gerryoat,

drealmerz7

, Titus, ssbm_Kyouko

-- L-1!

shannon (1)

: Raskolnikov

Drone (1)

: shannon

Raskolnikov (1)

: Sesq

Sesq (1)

: Drone

Titus (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

NOT VOTING (1)

: Impoetic

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

VC 2.20 (FINAL)

Lil Uzi Vert

(6)

: TTTT, gerryoat,

drealmerz7

, Titus, ssbm_Kyouko, Drone

-- LYNCH!

shannon (1)

: Raskolnikov

Drone (1)

: shannon

Titus (1)

:

Lil Uzi Vert

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Sesq

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Flip incoming.

Posting these w/o analysis for now so people can see them, also it's late and I'm sleeping soon so I'll analyze later. Impressions as I was coloring though are that Sesq is probably town and Drone has some questionable unvotes at times. Also players that were on both of the final wagons that aren't dead include Kyouko, gerryoat, and TTTT. Sesq and Raskol lynched scum but not town. Titus and Drone lynched town but not scum.

[Titus]

First:Lay out priniciples
1a) VCA should seek to clear players and create a pool of scum
1b) Any serious cw to scum gets major townpoints
1c) Unless in trouble, not likely hard bussing involved
1d)Dueling cw to scum are rare
1e) look at wagons that do not go through and why

Step 2
With the data, see available narratives that make sense. Note:Never voting is a huge red flag.

[Drone]

@Impoetic Hi!

[Titus]

so I'm thinking scum would usually hop on a 4th spot in a situation like this and push the wagon along / at least see if it gets a little more traction...that they haven't eeeither means there is scum already on it and they don't want to double-down, or it is scum...

Or you know, maybe they haven't had time to vote yet? I'll have to go back and look at the wagon, but it's interesting that you're trying to narrow it down to either the wagon target or the wagon members, at this early stage.

VOTE: Drealmerz

Interesting move when Drealmerz starts analyzing

[Titus]

Actually I forgot why I was scumreading ssbm.

VOTE: TTTTT

Naked vote entrance, insists Drone explains stuff when all he's done is naked vote.

TTT and SSBM near lock town based on RB moves.

[Titus]

VC 1.09

Impoetic (3)

: Kohai, Transcend, ironstove

drealmerz7 (3)

: shannon, Lil Uzi Vert, rb

rb (1)

: TTTT

TTTT (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert (1)

: drealmerz7

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

ironstove (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

Scum points to Impoetic and town points to the Impoetic wagon based on RB votes.

[Titus]

VC 1.15

ironstove (3)

: Kohai, Sesq, TTTT

drealmerz7 (2)

: Lil Uzi Vert, rb

Transcend (1)

: ironstove

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

shannon (1)

: Transcend

Lil Uzi Vert (1)

: drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, shannon, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

I need something new to put here.

Gamestall for many vcas strong evidence ironstove not bussing.

[Titus]

VC 1.21

rb (6)

: Transcend, drealmerz7, Drone, ssbm_Kyouko, Lil Uzi Vert, Sesq

-- L-1!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, ironstove

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Drone (1)

: gerryoat

Sesq (1)

: rb

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (1)

: Impoetic

With 13 alive it takes 7 toI lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

iamafluffyrabbit is V/LA until the 2nd.

Shannon no votes most of D1 and chainsaws rb. Let's get context here.

[Titus]

Drone technically in bus zone.