Newbie 1766 - Game Over
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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I've explained why you would keep a crumbed PR around as scum. If you were town you would acknowledge that thought process.
Also, what are you asking "when?" to?
pedit: The "why" is simple: If you would have truly killed TB as scum (you wouldn't, but I'm assuming town!Aero POV to explain why your logic can't be coming from town!Aero), that makes you town because Lucca was targeted instead. I'm also town. Lucca is confirmed town. There is one scum in [Aero, rb] based on their interactions in recent pages, specifically around massclaim. That makes rb scum if you're town, and since Lucca and I are also town, that means rb is being bussed by either Sofiel or the_end, because there are 2 scum in the game.
pedit2: I seriously doubt rb will come back to this game aside from to prodgeP,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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Vote Count 3.6
rb (3) - Sofiel, the_end, Aeronaut [L-1]
Aeronaut (2) - rb, ssbm_Kyouko
Not voting (1) - lucca261
With six players alive, it takes four votes to lynch.
Deadline for Day Three is Thursday, 26th January 23.00 GMT, (in (expired on 2017-01-26 23:00:00)).
Notes
Sofiel is V/LA until 22/1.
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Consider this as well: If Lucca wasn't crumbing PR and rb is scum, why would he kill Lucca and not Aero? Aero is the clear NK target because rb was widely TRed and could coast off that without much effort if the IC were goneP,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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You townread both of who?In post 528, Aeronaut wrote:Because I townread both on day 1; why kill me on N1 when you could easily let me steer the town wrong?
I repeat, what was your question in 519 when you asked me "when?"P,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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can you explain to me why wouldn't it be Sofiel/End?In post 532, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Plus we've already established that the team is not Sofiel/the_end because there is at least one scum in Aero/rb from everyone's pov, and fmpov there is exactly 1 scum in aero/rb and it's you Aero-
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When did Lucca townread you on D1?In post 531, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
You townread both of who?In post 528, Aeronaut wrote:Because I townread both on day 1; why kill me on N1 when you could easily let me steer the town wrong?
I repeat, what was your question in 519 when you asked me "when?"
I guess I can go look but as far as I had remember lucca was SRing you and zekro d1.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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I townread you and RB on day 1, so there was no reason to kill me; if I'd been hard SRing him and you D1, I'd be gone.In post 531, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
You townread both of who?In post 528, Aeronaut wrote:Because I townread both on day 1; why kill me on N1 when you could easily let me steer the town wrong?
I repeat, what was your question in 519 when you asked me "when?"2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 535, Aeronaut wrote:
I townread you and RB on day 1, so there was no reason to kill me; if I'd been hard SRing him and you D1, I'd be gone.In post 531, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
You townread both of who?In post 528, Aeronaut wrote:Because I townread both on day 1; why kill me on N1 when you could easily let me steer the town wrong?
I repeat, what was your question in 519 when you asked me "when?"
I was definitely a null for you d1, you never shifted that to a TR, just double checked myselfIn post 135, Aeronaut wrote:This is where I'm at.
{NT}Sofiel [S: 38*][T: 47, 116]
{NT}rb (SE) [T: 118]
{N}ThinkBig(SE)
{N}ssbm_Kyouko (SE) [T: 43][S: 75]
{N}lucca261 [T: 84, 89][S: 93*, 118*]
{NS}the_end [S: RL*]
{NS}Friend Computer [S: 101*]
{LS}Zekromaster [S: 41*, 103*]
Spoiler: ***
Spoiler: Key
I didn't say he TRed me D1, I said he displayed a willingness to adjust his read on me.In post 534, Aeronaut wrote:When did Lucca townread you on D1?
Town players that are willing to reconsider when they're SRing town are dangerous to scum, that's another reason why a scumteam thatIn post 516, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Lucca also displayed willingness to alter his read on me during D1 while we had a very long discussion about my motives and how he was misinterpreting things. Why would I kill a towny that was reversing their SR on me?didn'tinclude me would target Lucca for the N1 kill.
This is where he showed such a willingness:
Spoiler: Progression of Lucca's read on me
By the end of the day Lucca was reconsidering his SR on me to the point that he wasn't willing to lynch me today because I had a strange mindset for townP,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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It can't be both of them because of how rb and aeronaut jumped at each other's throats at the end of the massclaim sequence:In post 533, lucca261 wrote:
can you explain to me why wouldn't it be Sofiel/End?In post 532, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Plus we've already established that the team is not Sofiel/the_end because there is at least one scum in Aero/rb from everyone's pov, and fmpov there is exactly 1 scum in aero/rb and it's you Aero
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I know rb is town fmpov as well and if Aero was also town he would consider more angles in LyLo. Also it's not the_end I think, it's Aero/Sofiel. They're both pushing rb the same way, putting the burden of evidence on him, saying he's scum because he's not catching scum well enough, when the same could be said of everyone in the game tbh, since we haven't caught scum yet. However, when I was looking back at massclaims, I saw this:
Before rb claimed VT and said Aero was scum, Aero was of a mind that the last 3 scum were in me, sofiel, and the_end, and his plan was to push for the_end. However, when rb claimed VT and voted Aero, Aero flipped on rb. I think before they cross voted it was possible their interactions were scum theatre and the idea was to lynch the_end today, but they aren't scum together with Aero putting rb to L-1. The only way sofiel and the_end can be town fmpov is if Aero and rb are TvTing right now.In post 394, Aeronaut wrote:Which means we're between Sofiel, the_end, ssbm_Kyouko. I'm in the middle of catchup for a lot of stuff, but thinking it's te
more tonight
If the scumteam is Sofiel and the_end they would have chosen to vote against Aero instead of rb, because they would know that rb and I are both town voting against town Aero, and that would be 4 votes for a mislynch on town and a scum win. They don't make sense as a team together. Neither makes sense as an rb teammate either because both are voting him when they could be voting Aero if they were rb's teammate. As it is, they're voting rb because one of them is Aero's teammate.
Now because Aero's plan was to lynch the_end, he was planning on getting rb and lucca to vote the_end today. He's been laying the groundwork since day 1, the same way he was laying the groundwork for the FC and Zeke lynches days 1 and 2. Note that despite the fact that Aero SRed both of the lynches and was voting them both and pushing them as their wagons grew, he unvoted before lynch and never tried to convince anyone not to vote them. He never gave reason for changing his mind on any of them, he just got the ball rolling on the lynches and then let go of it.P,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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Okay hello I am here. Interesting that Aero and t_e jumped on my rb vote right after I had to v/la - seems opportunistic as hell bc there was a high chance I wouldn't be able to come back to unvote in time if they could push a hammer, and I'm a big sr and have just laid down a vote for rb - let's push it & rb coming out town is only good for us/bad for Sofiel tomorrow bc we can make the case she lead the wagon/is scum. I did vote rb bc I thought he was scummy, but his reactions & the way Aero and t_e literally just POUNCED onto the opportunity speak to me like scum that's worried.
UNVOTE: rb
VOTE: Aeronaut
Aero/t_e are super likely scum. Opportunistic and both fit my criteria for being able to pass through the game so far mostly unchecked.
You guys can read my plays in any way you like but yeah, Aero/t_e seems like a REALLY obvious scumteam rn. If anyone else is scum I'm v impressed by them tbh-
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Lucca, the way you asked me about why Sofiel/the_end can't be the team earlier made me think you think maybe that's a possibility
I want to hear reasons why they're a team, if anyone has any, before I put my vote back on AeroP,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Like I want to judge if anyone else has cases that have merit to them that I've overlooked that point to Sofiel/the_end. Justify the Lucca N1 kill attempt, show me scumslips, anything. I don't think it's likely but I was thinking the_end would be the player to flip onto Aero, not Sofiel, because I was thinking the team is Sofiel/Aero
Aero I want you to explain what was pointing you towards the_end being scum before rb voted you and you flipped your TR on him into a SRP,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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gtfo and dont come back. You've done nothing but ruin a good game with your shit posts, cursing and shit play. Good riddance.In post 501, rb wrote:bye, prod dodging until this shit game is over either via lynching the scum or losing by lynching me-
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@Lucca, I'm going to restate what I said in 473. I think the scumteam is rb and Sofiel. I am sure of rb being scum, his recent posts have only convinced me more of this. As I've said in 473, I'm pushing for an rb lynch. If there is no consensus in lynching rb, then I'm willing to lynch Sofiel. At the moment it seems ssbm and you aren't willing to vote rb therefore rb in unlikely to get lynched. If there is a consensus on lynching Sofiel then I shall I change my vote to Sofiel. Till then, I intend to continue pushing pressure on rb with my vote.In post 502, lucca261 wrote:Hey End, if I voted Sofiel right now, would you vote him with me?
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preparing a big post after my re-read of the game after I get my answer.
Sofiel's unvote of rb also supports my argument that they're scum partners. ssbm (and I think you too) said that there's no chance rb's scum partner would bus rb and the first thing Sofiel does after she gets back is to unvote rb. Sofiel's vote for Aero is clearly her jumping on the easiest alternative wagon at the moment. The Aero wagon is a fortunate turn of events for Sofiel and she took the opportunity to unvote rb.-
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To clarify my previous post. If Sofiel had come back and just unvoted rb, then I would have given some credence to her posts in 538 and 539. I find it extremely scummy that she came back and not just unvoted rb, but also jumped on Aero's wagon immediately and put it at L-1. *After* this she posts 539, where she says she'll do a reread. We're at MyLo and I would like to think that every town player would put a lot of thought before voting, especially before putting someone at L-1. Her unvoting rb, voting aero and only then saying she'll do a better read through seems like she's a scum, happy to get off her partner and onto an easy wagon.-
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I know this is a game of catching liars and things get heated but you need to not say stuff like this.In post 543, the_end wrote:
gtfo and dont come back. You've done nothing but ruin a good game with your shit posts, cursing and shit play. Good riddance.In post 501, rb wrote:bye, prod dodging until this shit game is over either via lynching the scum or losing by lynching me-
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Ssbm I'm slowly coming around to the idea that the_end could actually be town despite their toxic as fuck attitude and despite the fact that they somehow have zero townreads and zero scumreads all game and just 'lean' on everything.
Ssbm is literally fucking impossible to be scum right now btw, or he'd just be pushing aero or my wagon because of how townread he is. The game would already be over if ssbm is scum, he's not scum.
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