The House in the Woods ~Over~

[The Other Guys]

Hi

[The Other Guys]

We're not in game yet why are you playing the game

While we're picking out "ew" posts, this one is so bad I accidentally hit report instead of quote.

BTW
RQS time...bitches.
1) What made you choose your hydra partner?
2) Is there a pick you had that you wanted more than what you got? You don't have to say what it was.
3) What is your opinion on anime avatars?
4) What is the thing you hate most in mafia non-role or alignment-wise?

I'll bite:
1) He chose me.
2) I actually don't remember. We tossed around a few ideas and I like the one we got. Never really did any kind of ranked list or anything though.
3) meh. No strong opinion.
4) the majority of the game. Specifically everything between getting my initial reads and the game ending so I know if I was right or not. I hate waiting and I hate arguing when I don't know the answers yet.

You wake up and find yourself in an empty white room with padded walls.

What do you do?

Start running and jumping and laughing to myself that it finally happened.

[The Other Guys]

Eww as much as you like but Eddie will tell you not to scumread me

I'm actually thinking it might just be flawed town thinking...

[The Other Guys]

Answering gammas rqs is a crime against random questions police.

I have truly random questions for you here:

What time of day is the best time of day?
Where would you go to get best light bulbs?
Who would you rather vote for as president a douche or a turd?

-fire

Late night, douche, Lowe's.

[The Other Guys]

I think Creature's scum will explain later.

~Titus

I could probably sheep that, but would rather wait til later in the day I think.

[Eddie Cane]

ego, will post on hydra after this but baked af not mafiaing tn

why tf is this at 22 pages the thread just opened lmap

[The Other Guys]

If this stays a spam game, I'm gonna always be behind.

Best guesses for scum are gamma, transcend, and Chara.

I'm townreading RC, varsoon, and bronya.

Chara did you ever explain that scum read on me?

Don't blow up the thread again. I'm going to bed.

-Kmd

[The Other Guys]

Lol

[The Other Guys]

smocaine, why did you kill heartless?

[The Other Guys]

RC is lock town, I do not intend to vote there.

[The Other Guys]

I have been talking in the hood (earlier - been at work for 4 hours), nothing useful to say itg seems pretty waste and I claimed there. I can claim here if needed, no clue where KMD is so I haven't convened with him yet.

[The Other Guys]

Maki, White Fire, Lily and James, Varsoon hydra if its still alive, are all town. No strong reads otherwise, Illy Pump and Doggo scummy - part of my role is I tracked Smocaine to the bombed peeps last night and *not* to Transcend, meaning Transcend did not Nexus it I think but instead he was either redirected or actually targeted them and lied. I also tried vigging Transcend last night and failed though, so that's something.

[The Other Guys]

And Events are pro-town

[The Other Guys]

VOTE: TranscendabitTroubidar

[The Other Guys]

VOTE: JJayonnaise

[Eddie Cane]

uhh I want to think.

wrong game

lmfao

[The Other Guys]

{L&J, Maki, WF}
{Nerd Complex, Self Meta, Beeboy}
{Illy Pump}
{Squid and Mayo}


Frogskiies where the fuck are u

[The Other Guys]

Pump - did you suicide bomb Heartless intentionally?

[The Other Guys]

Frog, ur VLA was done 2 days ago buddy, and Boon, you've lurked out as scum more than town I think (at least on Flavour Leaf). WYA??????????????

[The Other Guys]

gonna isodive self meta actually

[The Other Guys]

Yo. Day 1 ended fast. This is my first post here. -.-

I have thoughts, don’t you fret. I’ll be back in a few hours.

I'm fretting

- iso dive done

[The Other Guys]

Pump - did you suicide bomb Heartless intentionally?

You need to wait for smocaine to get on

Okay.

[The Other Guys]

Ily, who stumped Dun? Who shot Chara / Elli?

[The Other Guys]

Then tell me who is. I think you're lying about your sui bomb target

So you're saying mafia had 2 kills night one?

Are you gonna try and play the balance card in a game like THIS

Why would I skip the night if doggo was my partner and trying to quick self hammer for night.

Well, for starters, town has about 20 killing roles

[The Other Guys]

I'm waiting for smocaine to get back. So we can discuss reads.

yea but

you have reads too

we arent asking for Pumps reads, we want Kokichis reads

[The Other Guys]

Squid and Mayonnaise - why did you have Transcend and Pump as town at the time?

[Eddie Cane]

UNVOTE:

[Eddie Cane]

there's nothing to discuss, you're scumcasing a person with 1 post

[Eddie Cane]

LJ is town so this talk can wait for post game, JJ

[Eddie Cane]

RC, magical place please

[Eddie Cane]

he did?

[Eddie Cane]

I have a proposition as a treestump

If you are town and killed me, you claim that in one of your next posts

If nobody claims the kill on me, we can assume it was a scum kill, and we let me lead the lynch (though I don't have a target in mind right now)

*raises hand*

^ I didn't kill you I was pointing out how scum prolly killed Viomi.

?

[Eddie Cane]

Can I scumread Squid

[Eddie Cane]

Can I scumread Squid

No, you should be able to tell I'm town

You should have been able to tell transcends scum JJsaur

[Eddie Cane]

With how many posts? I was gonna place him in hood

but you had him as your strongest tr, does that not mean you placed him?

[Eddie Cane]

Chara died from head trauma. Ellibereth shortly died afterwards from brain cancer. They were Alluka (Chara) and Nanika (Ellibereth)

mod - does this mean Chara died and then Elli died due to lovers?

[Eddie Cane]

We like beeboy as town and we like Makihydra and gifhydra as scum. Who agrees/disagrees with any of our reads and why?

?

[Eddie Cane]

Could this just be a fg game part too where all the scum are lurkers ehhhh? That's what I lean on. A lot of the stuff Kokichi says is NAI for them now that I think on it. Smo isn't being unreasonable for once so that's refreshing too.
I'll think about if I wanna kill em or not

Maki is surprisingly cool with us voting her, and even claims that I give her the warm fuzzies. Not sure if this is real life.

I think you can mech be scum and it's even quite likely but I think your play so farbased on play is town so

[Eddie Cane]

So why exactly does Katyusha of all the people that you could give the suicide bomb to get the suicide bomb?

How are people handwaving that

What a nice rolefish. Chicks head targeted Doggo, I targeted Varsoon. Do you honestly think we'd be like "oh yeah we gave scum a bomb." Yeah pretty sure that's not something you'd believe as town thus you are scum.

that's not what a role fish is

[The Other Guys]

JJ stick around for a min finishing up a post

[The Other Guys]

I'm psychic

[The Other Guys]

has Gif even posted?

[The Other Guys]

hm in my wall I'm working on I assumed everything was JJ. whatever. sign your posts

[The Other Guys]

ty. not really meta, but yea, let me know if I fudged whos who up.

[The Other Guys]

hm in my wall I'm working on I assumed everything was JJ. whatever. sign your posts

Oh btw that readlist was me

i assumed, based on typing

[The Other Guys]

Most of my posting has been not here, but I'll be here for now. KMD is catching up so when he does I'll talk with him.

Mechanics

- Maki is town or 3p. They are not groupscum. I will not say more on this, but think about what category this is in before you try to question it.
- I highly doubt both Nerd and Pump are scum, because loldoublescumbomberroles. There are a lot of mechanical reasons that point towards scum!Pump and a lot of play reasons that point towards scum!Nerd I think (we'll see when I do quick isos) but I'll get to that later.
- Nobody has claimed the Dunn kill, the Gamma Raptor kill, the Viomi kill, or the Elli kill. I would assume Gamma kill was factional, so we have 2 unclaimed n1 vigs and an unclaimed d2 kill. Just keep that in mind come mass claim and watch/track results.
- Without claiming, I can potentially check with the mod to verify claim(s) as genuine, so just something to keep in mind if/when we mass claim.
- Speaking of mass claim, it is an option today because it could very well be the day before MyLo if we mislynch, but I don't think it's worth letting scum know what roles they have to deal with. Open to discussing it if anybody disagrees.
- We need to cool down with the quick endings. Events are pro town.
-I don't believe it's likely there's an SK. Alisae hates SK. If there is a third party, I would think it is something not related to "kill everyone", and it is semi likely it can win without interfering with a factional win. I have nothing to back the latter up, but the former is not Alisae's style.

Reads

{L&J, Maki, WF}
{Nerd Complex, Self Meta, Beeboy}
{Illy Pump}
{Squid and Mayo}

If you'll recall, these are my last posted reads. They are moooostly the same, but a few small changes. Regardless, I'm going to break each one down because there's a lot of mechanics and hard evidence at play here and therefore they can be discussed far more than the normal "gut" can. This game does have a lot of shitposting, my initial reaction from catching up after d1 ended before I even checked the thread was along the lines of "okay 23 pages of RVS and circlejerking and then a loldayvig, this is exactly what I expected from Alisae".

- Maki can't be scum with Doggo I don't think.They make slight sense as a 3p, but I consider it far more likely they're town. They are not a valid lynch for today.
- L&J is just town. Their role and how they're playing it makes sense as town. They had their gladiate on me and I was l-2 or something, and I and others had no interest in voting them. They then switched it to Doggo and that happened. What's the scum motivation in that? It was unnecessary bussing if scum, and bussing that doesn't even earn towncred. IIRC, and this may be wrong, Titus almost always scumreads RC so there is some scum motivation for wanting to brrrap them d1, but like, at the same time, think about it (warning: entering wifom territory kinda). Scum!RC has a dayvig that ends the day (essentially a secret day lynch) on top of his gladiate. All he would have to do is gladiate someone random and then secretly kill Titus. Makes the person he gladiated look worse, and he already demonstrated he has a day gladiate he doesn't need to show he has a day hydraenddaykill; if anything, its hard to believe he'd have both unclaimed. Definitely not a natural conclusion. We can talk about the "morals" of killing Titus Kiana like that before a few of us even got to see the thread and before events (which are pro-town) in postgame, but I don't consider it scummy at all when he openly claimed the kill. To exit wifom even more, their role is weird as heck as a scum role and insanely powerful compared to what we've seen so far, probably even moreso than Chara Elli. On town, its kinda like vig in that it can be awesome but EV wise it isn't all that great because it can hurt a ton (as we see d1). I will never be voting this slot and find pushing it ludicrous.
- Fire is town from private places and play and if you want to ignore both of those he got suicide bombed by scum lmao

It gets harder after here, because I'm quite confident in these 3 being town but I'm not confident in any particular person being scum.
- Voices tell me beeboy is town. And, I mean, he has an unclaimed kill that hit his other head so that's town points too; there are conceivable roles that involve killing one of your heads or having it be beneficial for scum to kill one of your heads (especially in a reviver game), but its net +town I'd think. This applies to Maki as well. Play wise, they were with NC and SM before in the category of "I don't remember a single relevant thing you've posted". 866 makes me think the vig being unclaimed is a lot more townie than it randomly is; it is factual that beeboy is not in a good place rn and if scum were gonna do some gambit or their was a benefit to a head dying then beeboy could've just taken the head that was gonna die role wise with no real cost. 910 feels p genuine, don't like 1026 because I'm scumreading that hydra for their readslist lmao but major townpoints if squid is town, and the pump progression is good cause I toneread those posts as town too. To 1443, yea, I'm doing most of my posting in my home and a bit in my work (plus a couple at a party), not in some random house in the woods. I was less sure before isoing but yea beebopalooza can be town.
- Self Meta hasn't posted. At a party I saw 2 or 3 random NAI posts, plus a few NAI posts in the thread, I don't think there's a single alignment indicative thing from the slot. Like, if you want to get super wifomy Boon lurks out as scum tactically more than town I think though not to this degree, and he did post a little bit elsewhere recently as well as being online. There are also a couple failed catchup promises. That wifomy argument doesn't even do much though because when I was scum with Frog he powertowned right there with me, and even if he isn't confident in his scum game he definitely doesn't have the Creature tell of struggling to post. Boats n Hoes. There is nothing AI from this slot and all the slots below are individually scummier, but could be PoE scum. Don't like voting a null slot at this point. Don't like a slot being this null without being replaced at this point either. I'm especially annoyed because both heads are people I'm friendsish with and both people I can at least kind of read, plus Frog - JJ interactions should do good to sorting both of them if they're not SvS (very unlikely because one of NC and Pump is almost certainly scum and even ignoring that just mathematically unlikely).
- Squid and Mayo is not being an easy read. Firstly guys, should have been a red flag that Transcendabyte didn't neighbourize me. You alluded to this a bit, but I can sort Transcend and I can sort Giga + I'm a player with a history of hard defending Transcend when he's town (Chocolate mafia comes to mind I'm certain there's other examples I'm not thinking of), if they were town they had the opportunity to get townread correctly by me and townbloc while doccing me and if I was scum (Transcend has some experience reading me too but I don't think he's ever lynched scum!Eddie - he did push me a bit in TF mafia and in Spring Fever though I didn't play that game really) he could have roleblocked me. There was every reason for town!Transcend to neighbourize my slot, and instead they went for you. There are plenty of WIFOM reasons a town doggo could do that so its passable to not scumread that itself but having them as your hardest townread that easily? Come on dude. Giga and Transcend are not hard reads. I'm sideyeing you a lot for this. I also don't understand Pump being a solid Tr at that stage. The rest of your reads look alright, but 983 is a huge -town equity for yall. (not AI but 158 - have I ever actually told people not to scumread you?). 655 - there are a bunch of posts before this in your iso wat. You get townpoints for being uncc'd in Soviet hood, a decent amount of them. However, I will point out that if Doggo's action failed or the person neighbourized was Chara those are both scenarios your claim makes sense as scum, particularly the former. TBQH, a big reason in favour of a mass claim is I want to see what you do with it, I'm a mechanical player when possible but you're much moreso than me. Your iso seems p barren, you can do more JJ. I don't want to lynch you today anymore but I do not townread you at this point.

-Illy Pump can go on top but barely. They seem town tonally. 674 830 etc - Pushing Doggo for not dying when they didn't actually Suicide Bomb them and apparently knew that is not good. 949 seems hilarious with 4 unclaimed n1 kills, cocky dumb towniness I think. But, past tonally (which is the only reason I see you as town - this is mostly a mechanic scum read so

JJ particularly

I would like to comment on. 1153 and 1204 - you're now proven to have suicide bombed good town and *not* doggo, and survived. A night skip isn't necessarily pro town in a game like this with so many powerful town roles, I would say it is probably still pro town but not completely and a day action voider isn't townie either if we assume RC is town because town!RC cucks scum completely. 1129 also kinda feels posturing, I don't see why it is relevant and if it was its related to your role and you would have asked that in PM before using your role period I'd think. 1013 - who was "so wrong on Doggo"? he was not exactly a global townread. Not having any reads at all is weird, but I will grant it probably isn't too scummy because faking some random TR isn't exactly hard as scum. 1205 is bullshit I think, fuck off with some "super secret tell" that you didn't suicide bomb.
- NC I don't have a ton to say on. RC is confident here, and I have no reason to townread them at all. Dog defense is bad. 1302 - are u joking? "awful posts and bad reads doesn't equal scum"? I understand shit town is a thing, but acting like that isn't scum equity is asinine. 1384 - overall, I think your reads are worse than JJs now. Your scumread is Self Meta and your scum leans are Maki and RC? aka, your scumread is An NAI Lurker and your scumreads are My Strongest TRs. lol. 1436... Doggo as in Transcend or Doggo as in the hydra? ignoring that, I don't like that wifomy defense there in context. 1445 - what does this post mean? RC never said he had an irreversible read on you afaik. Inventor claim does nothing for my read.

Compile all of your RC points into one post

, and same with Maki. Even if you no longer scumread them (clarify if so), I want to know what led you to those reads. This is what I need out of your slot to change my current read that RC is probably right and you're probably scum.

[Eddie Cane]

I pointed out that you pointed it out. show me solvy jj.

[Eddie Cane]

there's a followup soon busy rn

[Eddie Cane]

lol

[Eddie Cane]

Oi Eddie, you can do WAY better than placing me on how I read Doggo, especially when your first point is calling me out for not picking up a red flag that I 100% picked up on as a red flag?

When I write posts like that, its stream of consciousness style as in I write what comes to mind somewhat but not very filtered. The point is so people can see what tangible things are influencing my thoughts (obviously I can't cite gut), because tangible things are the only things that can influence others' reads.

There are plenty of WIFOM reasons a town doggo could do that so its passable to not scumread that itself

but having them as your hardest townread that easily?

This is me saying my first point doesn't have much meaning. Do you have any notable examples of scum!giga or trans pocketing you? cause that would help.

Can't solve without talking to the inactives rn

yup

If you're looking for me going off on mechanics as a way of placing me, then look at my interactions with the RC hydra

what specifically are you referring to?

Here's my follow up: does anyone else feel like eddie's last post is always going to lead them to not voting NC at end of day?

Because like that last TOG post feels like they're trying to act like they're scumreading NC but they're giving themselvesthe ability to work their way out

like I mod guarantee you that they don't end up scumreading NC at EOD after that post.

Oh, fuck off. I'm sorry for not assuming RC is 100% correct 100% of the time and looking for his mindset? He is on the bottom of my reads list, if he has/had believable reasons to scumread you and Maki then maybe he's town and you're just tilted as shit.

Here's another follow up: What if Transcend and Giggles weren't trying to lynch me at all with that garbage attack
what if they were intentionally goading me to switch my gladiate target because they knew they were going to get lynched anyway (because of stuff I said in hood) and wanted to get their suicide bomb off and keep a partner alive?
I mean from the moment I gladiated on they made -zero- effort to defend themselves- what if that's because they didn't want to defend themselves and were throwing themselves in the way of the TOG lynch?

I'm responding to this in private, just noting it here.

Ali would put a SK in this game btw.

Like, the standard killing SK where they need to be last one alive (obviously buffed)?

[Eddie Cane]

anyways,
(Fire > RC = Maki > Beeboy >> SM > Squid > Pump > NC)

[Eddie Cane]

Umm, I think I TRed scum!Doggo in a boon game once but honestly no instances come to mind. Don't see how it would help if there were any instances, really.


Wrt mechanical shit and RC, look for me calling out his lies from day 1 and getting a more truthful idea of his role from Yume

You had a total of 0 rc interactions d1 ? I have your dual iso out. If you mean in response to his d1 actions, I don't see what mechanical stuff you mean dude can you just spoiler tag and mass quote relevant stuff?

Also I'm pretty sure scum role copped me because 2 people have said things that indicate that they knew it was a dayvig (GIF hydra & Eddie Cane) without FoSing me for it.

A bit before this particularly bad post, which I think is especially bad because I don't remember you saying anything about his role

-jj

In a private place I referred to him dayvigging Titus. I think he forgot he publicly claimed dayvigging Titus.

[Eddie Cane]

Why does that reads list look like you just surveyed the players in the room and listed them based on those answers?

Because you're stupid.

[Eddie Cane]

I vig a townie and lie about my action to lead a lynch on scum.

FTFY

[Eddie Cane]

not as insistently.

[Eddie Cane]

anything you want to comment on wrt the mechanics parts of my post?

[Eddie Cane]

Sure thing bud. I'd argue RC was more insistent with their gimmick since they were quoting and repeating themselves without being prompted to, but this is hardly a scummy distinction you're making anyway.

1567 is me telling you to stop being an arrogant prick if youre town and scumhunt; you don't get to take credit for vigging a townie and saying you wanted to vig a scummie

[Eddie Cane]

I will not be intimidated by some ineffectual, privileged, effete, soft-penis'd, debutante. If Pump wants to start a street fight with me he can but he’s gonna be surprised by how ugly it gets, he doesn’t even know my real name- I'm the f***ing Lizard King.

[Eddie Cane]

anything you want to comment on wrt the mechanics parts of my post?

I think you're looking at placing mechanically wrong here. In a game like this, we'd need massclaim to place in that sense. Even then, my expertise lies more in detecting lies in claims than in saying what roles are scum in an Alisae lolbalance game.

-jj

what's your opinion on the validity of a mass claim? this is potentially the day before xylo

[Eddie Cane]

I'm always up for massclaim but I don't agree that tomorrow is likely to be mylo

I'm always up for massclaim but I don't agree that tomorrow is likely to be mylo

8 people alive, if we mislynch there will be 7, 1-2 scum kills and 1-2 town kills and xylo is a clear possibility. Obviously, this doesn't account for stopped / failed kills.

-

what are your confident reads rn? either way

[Eddie Cane]

Sure thing bud. I'd argue RC was more insistent with their gimmick since they were quoting and repeating themselves without being prompted to, but this is hardly a scummy distinction you're making anyway.

1567 is me telling you to stop being an arrogant prick if youre town and scumhunt; you don't get to take credit for vigging a townie and saying you wanted to vig a scummie

just find the scum motivation buttmunch. My vig record is ass, so I care about it not being what I wanted to do. I'm not saying not-vigging doggo makes me town, but I feel as if my play makes me blatant town here. This is disregarding the vig which is null at worst. It's not like heartless was remotely townie aside from doggo posting.

so heartless was just some random null vig?

[Eddie Cane]

I scumread that post rc is talking about at dayend when I hadn't read most of the thread in any serious capacity. It was a placeholder so my compulsive shot didn't rand.

oh yea you said it was compulsive my b, that makes it less bad

[Eddie Cane]

-Illy Pump can go on top but barely. They seem town tonally. 674 830 etc - Pushing Doggo for not dying when they didn't actually Suicide Bomb them and apparently knew that is not good. 949 seems hilarious with 4 unclaimed n1 kills, cocky dumb towniness I think. But, past tonally (which is the only reason I see you as town - this is mostly a mechanic scum read so JJ particularly I would like to comment on. 1153 and 1204 - you're now proven to have suicide bombed good town and *not* doggo, and survived. A night skip isn't necessarily pro town in a game like this with so many powerful town roles, I would say it is probably still pro town but not completely and a day action voider isn't townie either if we assume RC is town because town!RC cucks scum completely. 1129 also kinda feels posturing, I don't see why it is relevant and if it was its related to your role and you would have asked that in PM before using your role period I'd think. 1013 - who was "so wrong on Doggo"? he was not exactly a global townread. Not having any reads at all is weird, but I will grant it probably isn't too scummy because faking some random TR isn't exactly hard as scum. 1205 is bullshit I think, fuck off with some "super secret tell" that you didn't suicide bomb.

the thing with my posts like that is i dont leave them in drafts, work on them for a while, etc. i wait til i have time to sit down and write it all at once, so sometimes i forget stuff. to focus on your suicide bomb;
1) I take issue with you happening to notice Doggo was scum a mere 6 minutes after deadline after bombing 2 strong town players.
2) I take issue with your active head not knowing who you bombed and your homeless barely able to check forums head picking it instead (not meant to offend smocaine sorry if it comes across that way)
3) I take issue with you lying about it actively and using it as a reason to scumread Doggo
4) I take issue with how many times it came up before you corrected yourself; part of my role involved Tracking you to Heartless so I knew you were lying unless someone randomly redirected you n1. I also watched you, and nobody targeted you, so there goes the random redirector theory (lol maki shoutout here)

I scumread that post rc is talking about at dayend when I hadn't read most of the thread in any serious capacity. It was a placeholder so my compulsive shot didn't rand.

But dudddde, I don't get it. Why wasn't Doggo your placeholder? Did you or did you not catch them with your secret scumtell?

[Eddie Cane]

good to hear

[Eddie Cane]

whats townie about lying about your action?

[The Other Guys]

[hide=not relevant to alignment but musings]

I don't know who tth is, and this is fact. I tr them through how doggo called em scummy once I realized they was scum.

lol at you saying you tr a person you killed a day after you kill them

titus was obvtown through their scumreading creature post

i dont get this
[/hide]

whats townie about lying about your action?

Because I was hard pushing our only scumflip. Find scum motivation in the lie. Innocent until proven guilty. Town lies all of the time.

scum motivation: "why would scum do this?"
scum motivation: lets you avoid taking blame for killing a competent townie
scum motivation: kill the person who said you were his only (albeit mild) scumread in his hood - this only works if you're scum with self meta (who are also in the hood) or someone was in the hood and didn't post (possible)
scum motivation: lets you distance by pushing your partner on something weak and easily fightable - they genuinely weren't killproof, so it would have been rolecop confirmable.
town motivation: ??? fill in the blank here
the proper course of town action in my not conceited perfectly humble opinion: "placeholder killed Heartless (he was chosen for x) and didnt have time to change it mb"

i dont think this is overly scummy but youre annoying the fuck out of me with your undeserved arrogance (:

[The Other Guys]

, in fact I do it all the time as town.So @Eddie, how is Smocaine lying AI at all?

please say this is a joke

[The Other Guys]

Also @Eddie. If you're implying that him lying is scummy, explain that if it was a scum gambit, I was not 100% sure who Smocaine shot. We would have talked it over with our scum partners about it if it was supposed to be a bus or whatever. Unless you're saying that I was faking those posts too?

~Kokichi

I had more points besides lying, and as I said above I don't put much stock into it. I just gave you potential cum motivations for lying and don't get the town motivation. are you seriously trying to argue you're townie because you didn't know who your partner killed ?_?

[The Other Guys]

Scum has more knowledge than town, so lying can actually make Scum more apparent who is more aware or not. At least that's what I've learned.

~Kokichi

you've seen me lie as town, the difference is there was actually a reason (wifom in multiball lylo). there was 0 benefit to it here, all it did was make me way more suspicious of you and by consequence a bit less sus of doggo because i had a track result of you on heartless and it made no sense

[The Other Guys]

No, I never said that. I just wanted to see your response. So, tell me. How would you explain that?

~Kokichi

how do i explain what? incompetence that stands true as either alignment or idiotic lying that stands true as either alignment?

[The Other Guys]

3. Our suicide bomb and it being the only other kill with maf's kill on gamma.

-Illy Pump can go on top but barely. They seem town tonally. 674 830 etc - Pushing Doggo for not dying when they didn't actually Suicide Bomb them and apparently knew that is not good. 949 seems hilarious with 4 unclaimed n1 kills, cocky dumb towniness I think. But, past tonally (which is the only reason I see you as town - this is mostly a mechanic scum read so JJ particularly I would like to comment on. 1153 and 1204 - you're now proven to have suicide bombed good town and *not* doggo, and survived. A night skip isn't necessarily pro town in a game like this with so many powerful town roles, I would say it is probably still pro town but not completely and a day action voider isn't townie either if we assume RC is town because town!RC cucks scum completely. 1129 also kinda feels posturing, I don't see why it is relevant and if it was its related to your role and you would have asked that in PM before using your role period I'd think. 1013 - who was "so wrong on Doggo"? he was not exactly a global townread. Not having any reads at all is weird, but I will grant it probably isn't too scummy because faking some random TR isn't exactly hard as scum. 1205 is bullshit I think, fuck off with some "super secret tell" that you didn't suicide bomb.

the thing with my posts like that is i dont leave them in drafts, work on them for a while, etc. i wait til i have time to sit down and write it all at once, so sometimes i forget stuff. to focus on your suicide bomb;
1) I take issue with you happening to notice Doggo was scum a mere 6 minutes after deadline after bombing 2 strong town players.
2) I take issue with your active head not knowing who you bombed and your homeless barely able to check forums head picking it instead (not meant to offend smocaine sorry if it comes across that way)
3) I take issue with you lying about it actively and using it as a reason to scumread Doggo
4) I take issue with how many times it came up before you corrected yourself; part of my role involved Tracking you to Heartless so I knew you were lying unless someone randomly redirected you n1. I also watched you, and nobody targeted you, so there goes the random redirector theory (lol maki shoutout here)

I scumread that post rc is talking about at dayend when I hadn't read most of the thread in any serious capacity. It was a placeholder so my compulsive shot didn't rand.

But dudddde, I don't get it. Why wasn't Doggo your placeholder? Did you or did you not catch them with your secret scumtell?

WRT your suicide bomb making you town. I have no words for the sentiment that lying is pro town.

2. Our push on doggo in the beginning.

Your push was weak as shit, did I miss something besides "he's scum" "we tried to kill him and he's alive"?

1. Doggo tried to sui bomb to go into night quickly, we skipped the night with our action. Doesn't make sense as scum partners.

Doggo tried to sui bomb because he was l-2 and gladiated by RC? nah, couldn't be.

No, I never said that. I just wanted to see your response. So, tell me. How would you explain that?

~Kokichi

how do i explain what? incompetence that stands true as either alignment or idiotic lying that stands true as either alignment?

So not knowing who your hydra partner hit with HIS ability in incompetence? How? And basically you're saying it's NAI? Is that your answer?

~Kokichi

YOUR hydra partner. this is a hydra game, not discussing actions or even telling actions is incompetence if true. i don't think its nai, i think it is very slightly scummy. it is not a major factor in my read.

Scum has more knowledge than town, so lying can actually make Scum more apparent who is more aware or not. At least that's what I've learned.

~Kokichi

you've seen me lie as town, the difference is there was actually a reason (wifom in multiball lylo). there was 0 benefit to it here, all it did was make me way more suspicious of you and by consequence a bit less sus of doggo because i had a track result of you on heartless and it made no sense

Also, can you explain how that's scummy at all? If it was a redirector then how would that make a difference? (I'm really asking, not sure how the mechanics of a redirector would work in that case. Like if Smocaine targeted Doggo would your track result still show him going to doggo IF he was redirected to Heartless) Anyway there is no scum motivation for doing that either. It's clear that Smocaine was not worried about looking "towny" which is something that scum tries to do, he was more trying to push for reactions to get scumreads. Which IS a town motivation. Do you disagree?

~Kokichi

Depends on redirector mechancis, probably would see you going to Heartless ignoring my Watcher indicating nobody targeted you. do i disagree with what, now you're saying the doggo push was a reaction test?

Putting numbers back in lylo range instead of mylo range is scum motivated how?

this is a game with a fuck ton of kills, i am in awe this is where your brain goes

^Kokichi

Again not saying we are confirmed town or anything like that, I just want someone to poke holes in our logic that's not "WIFOM" or "IT'S ROLE MADNESS"

if you could lay out all of your "logic" in one post i'll look at it all rather than giving me 10 random chunks of stupid. i think all of your logic is "WIFOM" such as the brilliant "why would we skip night after a suicide bomb"

[The Other Guys]

i'm done w this now

[Eddie Cane]

If you vote me at any point in this game you will be dayvigged (read: powerlynched) ending the game. this is your one and only warning.

lol jk this was a short d1

go suck a chode

[Eddie Cane]

it's one of pump and nc plus one of mayo and self meta, I vote nc or mayo here out of those pairs

[Eddie Cane]

nah, I'm town

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: tentacles

[Eddie Cane]

@Eddie

I was never scum reading Self Meta. That wasn't the point of my vote. Doggo the hydra. RE 1445: that's a reply to RC giving me so much shit over the voting Self Meta. It feels like he's buddying the fuck out of SM. It's also a reply that I think that RC (and yours? and whomever else) scum reading us b/c Chick had a town read on Doggo is a bit weak sauce. I can get to the other stuff later.

So why exactly does Katyusha of all the people that you could give the suicide bomb to get the suicide bomb?

How are people handwaving that

What a nice rolefish. Chicks head targeted Doggo, I targeted Varsoon. Do you honestly think we'd be like "oh yeah we gave scum a bomb." Yeah pretty sure that's not something you'd believe as town thus you are scum.

so one of your inventions targets a hydra and the other targets a head?

[Eddie Cane]

better than not doing anything with my vote while I wait for kmd and meta

[Eddie Cane]

who was starting to scumread me before the wall?

[Eddie Cane]

nope

[Eddie Cane]

bbl

[Eddie Cane]

idiocy is a common trait

[The Other Guys]

Reading now. Life has been hectic, so sorry about that. Still gonna be about a week before it lets up, unfortunately.

If anyone needs anything, I'll answer when I'm done reading what I can for the night.

-Kmd

[The Other Guys]

Ugh. Only got through Page 36.

I see Nerd Complex is the leading wagon. I townread their Day 1 posting that everyone seemed to hate so much, but their read on the doggo slot felt awkward. First, they are in a list as town (looking more like Chick's read than a mutal one). Then when asked about it, Chick needed to go back and look. And then it's just a bunch of quotes that were described as "good pushes" and no real description of that and then a mention of Nero not liking Doggo defending them.

So I don't think I'm exactly gonna get in the way of that wagon even though I don't know why it's being pushed.

-Kmd

[Eddie Cane]

check the bans page ali

[Eddie Cane]

we are gonna play minesweeper!

[Eddie Cane]

UNVOTE:

[Eddie Cane]

oh, fuck you

[Eddie Cane]

my reaction to you is because you're a fucking idiot and this site is stupid and idek what wagon you're talking about but fire is obv town

[Eddie Cane]

I'm leaving bye

[Eddie Cane]

Right before RC gladiated Doggo: (GuyinFreezer, Lilly, White Fire, Maki, Beeboy) Admittedly maki is in my leftovers pile, but they hop on Doggo right after, so it could be aight.

you want me to sideye people for voting me when the only other option is the most obv town slot in the game?

[Eddie Cane]

I find your whole, "He vigged a

good

player" and discrediting the inherent townieness of a nightskip that allows for a normal day of mafia are agenda-y too.

there is no inherent townineess for no day actions when town has a gladiator and a day vig that ends day

you did vig a good player who was null rather than your top scumread because lol 6 minutes, and it was after he fosd you in a pt so ? maybe it's just you and self meta but I think you're just awful town on tone and it's squid nc

[Eddie Cane]

squid posting would be gr8 frog posting to squid would also be gr8

[Eddie Cane]

I need to talk to kmd since I asked him to play this game and subbing wouldn't be fair

[Eddie Cane]

I don't really have time to talk I have a massive headache and am going to work soon

I don't remember what head was talking but all of that talk the other day, and the actions yes mainly the grab for towncred and again the suicide bomb stuff

[Eddie Cane]

Really funky readslist for you, Eddie


Objectively town:
Firebringer
Beeboy

Probably town and maybe belongs in the above category but having real difficulty getting past the Titus murder:
RadiantCowbells and Yume | Lily and James

Need to reread that micro where you pocketed me but I'm thinking town:
Eddie Cane and Kmd4390 | The Other Guys

Want them to be town for the same reason I self voted earlier and kinda think they're town but if I'm wrong about a townread it's most likely to be this one:
Maki Harukawa

Needs to post:
Fro99er and Boonskiies | Self Meta

Basically PoE and maybe a bit of scummyness by play?:
Smocaine and Kokichi Oma | Illy Pump
Chickadee and Nero Cain | Nerd Complex


-jj

expand!

[Eddie Cane]

what is the difference between scum jj and town jj? i know how jj does things, i dont know if that is exclusive to town you.

[Eddie Cane]

wish mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmme luck at work interview day

[Eddie Cane]

I think you overestimate how well I know you mate

[Eddie Cane]

bad jj maki no reflexive poisoner

[Eddie Cane]

something something where are you kmd

[Eddie Cane]

bad jj maki no reflexive poisoner

Can you contribute more to this mechanical discussion than this second-hand misrep, Eddie

i was under the impression thats what you said ?

what exactly do you want me to contribute i dont get what youre talking about or why maki out of all people is the poisoner or what basis there is for chara being poisoned in the first place and "died after x" as opposed to every poisoner i've played with where the poisoned person is informed if the thread isn't and/or they die at the end of the day phase

[Eddie Cane]

I'm going to check something and get back to you

[Eddie Cane]

an arsonist typically goes through doctor protection, what if they were doused and the arsonist can ignite during the day?

however, if we believe NC, yea poisoning is more likely. i just clicked into what you were getting at and confirmed some pt stuff. i dont believe maki is likely to be the poisoner though if it is poisoning.

[Eddie Cane]

what do you think of arso theory? unviable?

[Eddie Cane]

Half the point of the role is in choosing when to ignite and if you can just ignite every day immediately following a douse at night then what's the point in making it an arso?

a vig that goes through docs and shtuff?

yea poisoner is probs more likely

[Eddie Cane]

where are you going with this though

and gn

[Eddie Cane]

I'm fine with mass claim

[Eddie Cane]

frogskies

[The Other Guys]

{L&J, Maki, WF}
{Nerd Complex, Self Meta, Beeboy}
{Illy Pump}
{Squid and Mayo}

now at

{WF, Beebopalooza, Maki}
{rc}

{squid & mayo, illy}
{nc, sm}

no strong scumreads but :shrug:

poisoner isnt myself, rc, maki or s&m. pretty confident in that.

[The Other Guys]

KMD said he's on vaca for a bit and then is busy with work for a few days so i'm basically alone in a game i don't want to be in yeyyey

i think we need a mass claim rn tbh, open the game up. i dont really know where to go from here otherwise and it backs scum into a claim.

[The Other Guys]

i really want Frog to catch up and do shit particularly wrt jj still, guess we get a breath of fresh air with drixx being probtown too

[Eddie Cane]

yup

in other news i played 2 games of minesweeper and got bored lul

[Eddie Cane]

i didnt say i didnt win in those 2 games!

[Eddie Cane]

fun FACT: when i was away for work last year for like 2 weeks my hotel had wifi too shit for my laptop to connect so i played like a lot of solitaire and minesweeper

[Eddie Cane]

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[Eddie Cane]

their role is another neighbourizer type, i don't think it could be on a scum team with doggo ignoring play

[Eddie Cane]

i'll let them answer if they want to, but Chara was and at least 1 other living player

[Eddie Cane]

i don't mind it, but i also don't mind jj's. PoE is getting hard at this point

[The Other Guys]

do a reads thing

[The Other Guys]

or u dipped

work at 6 so gn

[Eddie Cane]

do a reads thing

So boring dude

[Eddie Cane]

shut up and dance with me

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: nc

[Eddie Cane]

don't set yourself up as a pairing with rondo dumbass 9

[Eddie Cane]

I've had pump as town for a while now and regardless due to my role I wouldn't have ever entertained lynching that slot today most likely. I'll talk more tomorrow, but I called him a dumbass not you

[Eddie Cane]

Illy, how do you feel about Reasonably Affectionate and The Other Guys?

To accept they are scum is to accept that RC v Eddie Cane > RC v Chairman Doggo was all scum theater. Do you see that as likely? I think it's more likely the other guys is scum with RC's slot being bad!town. inb4 "wel he gladiated scum". The Titus day ending kill was so horribly anti town and his excuse was complete shit. However, Eddie Cane thinking my lie was worse and more insistent than RC's is objectively false. I don't really care that he says he thinks we're town now. He was lying or spinning things to explain away a flaw in his reads earlier. In addition, all of kmd's posts have been underwhelming.

RC didn't lie about shit buddy

[Eddie Cane]

don't set yourself up as a pairing with rondo dumbass 9

But I wanna be rando dumbass numbers 1-8

lmao

[Eddie Cane]

RC lied about plenty of shit

WHAT shit

[The Other Guys]

but also, same question. I'm flipping town and you have to trust me on Illy then. Who is scum?

Though I imagine that you and Maki will give the following stall statements "You haven't flipped town yet!" "We could get incriminating night actions tomorrow night!"

Illy, how do you feel about Reasonably Affectionate and The Other Guys?

To accept they are scum is to accept that RC v Eddie Cane > RC v Chairman Doggo was all scum theater. Do you see that as likely? I think it's more likely the other guys is scum with RC's slot being bad!town. inb4 "wel he gladiated scum". The Titus day ending kill was so horribly anti town and his excuse was complete shit. However, Eddie Cane thinking my lie was worse and more insistent than RC's is objectively false. I don't really care that he says he thinks we're town now. He was lying or spinning things to explain away a flaw in his reads earlier. In addition, all of kmd's posts have been underwhelming.

anyways,
(Fire > RC = Maki > Beeboy >> SM > Squid > Pump > NC)

{L&J, Maki, WF}
{Nerd Complex, Self Meta, Beeboy}
{Illy Pump}
{Squid and Mayo}

closest i've done to call you scum are these posts, and i actively said i never lynch you today and still never do. good job sticking to the standard dumbass town read. and, nc, i don't think you flip town here because if you're town you're actively not reading but if you do green i think this game still is mostly broken mechanically, my role does a fair chunk of that and from what we've seen so far everyone has an insane role so between us it should be over. most of why i want a mass claim.

[The Other Guys]

kmd hasn't read the game he's underwhelming me too

[The Other Guys]

So me and Illy are you top scum reads? That's nice but also wrong. Even I I end up being lynched today I'm going to flip town and then you'll have to trust me on Illy at wich point you'll be 0 for 2. Who is scum?

I think its entirely plausible that RC distances for his buddies. He also kills (Titus) and OMGUS votes (me) anyone that scum reads him and I see potential scum motivation in that. Though I'm not so disconnected that I'm unwilling to lynch anyone but him. I'm currently voting Maki but we can do TOG if that's what you want to do.

there is no way a townie reads the game and comes to these conclusions

[The Other Guys]

RC lied about plenty of shit

WHAT shit

The nature of the powerlynching thing

i don't consider fudging your role lying, it didn't make sense as initially claimed (not that i was around to comment because lol!titus)

[The Other Guys]

Compile all of your RC points into one post, and same with Maki. Even if you no longer scumread them (clarify if so), I want to know what led you to those reads. This is what I need out of your slot to change my current read that RC is probably right and you're probably scum.

you never did this

[The Other Guys]

Just because a lie doesn't make sense doesn't make it a non-lie

technically correct; do you consider it as bad or worse than pump's lie?

n e ways,

That said, that hydra is still town

good.

[The Other Guys]

white as a cloud, white as the snow
white is the best part of an oreo

[The Other Guys]

i don't get it, what did he do that's so bad? maybe i'm the one being stupid. he said people die if they vote him, he withheld the part that he gets to choose to kill them, he claimed unlimited gladiate and he has seemingly unlimited gladiate.

[The Other Guys]

i love the tree glitch in fortnite omg

[Eddie Cane]

[Eddie Cane]

uncalling for.

[Eddie Cane]

this is scum nero u can hammer it whenever

[Eddie Cane]

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Eddie's edciting fact of the day: two of Eddie's best town games, :X mafia and Yet Another uPick, both featured gigabyteTroubidar and Vedith. Both also featured town!vedith death tunnelling another townie, ignoring Eddie completely, and actively obstructing the wincon. Said town!vedith was not a part of pushing any of the 4 scum lynches pushed by Eddie NOR the one pushed by Cheetory.

[Eddie Cane]

demonstratedly not reading the thread v2. word fam

[The Other Guys]

ok?

Why is it scummy that you guys are town reading each other but I think you guys aren't all town?

Also, RC was pretty confident that atleast one of you or TOG was scum. Did Yume start hard town reading you or something?

+ from my POV the other options seem meh at best.

Maki can correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC RC thought one of us was scum with Mayo because Mayo knew he was a day vig lmao

ok but that's slightly avoiding my question. "I think you are scummy for not explaining your Maki/TOG well enuff"=//= and acceptable answer to "Why is it scummy that I'm scum reading a hood that's town reading each other?"

also, you didn't answer about RC.

your scumreads are the two naturally towniest players in the game and myself cutie. those are not scumreads that are reasonable to have.

i don't think you flip town here because if you're town you're actively not reading

What am I not reading?

but if you do green i think this game still is mostly broken mechanically, my role does a fair chunk of that and from what we've seen so far everyone has an insane role

so between us it should be over.

most of why i want a mass claim.

and like here he's preventively explaining why I don't flip scum. "its not b/c I'm scum, its not b/c I was wrong. Nope. It's my role." The bolded sounds like scum that knows he's scum.

Well, for starters, the post immediately before yours I cite a game that had nero!scum which i lynched d2. and, between us is between me and the rest of town you dolt. "from what we've seen so far

everyone

has an insane role so

between us

it should be over."

there is no way a townie reads the game and comes to these conclusions

Said every scum ever. I started scum reading Eddie b/c Eddie thinks I'm trash. Eddie thinking my reads are the reads of scum and noth the trash player that he thinks I am is a pretty big leap in logic. He's not town.

You are trash. Your argument for me being scum, when I had you as scum before that reads list, is that I think you're trash so having disgustingly bad reads should make you town? Literal lol

To believe that the hood is scumless I have to believe that scum are in bee, the two SM's or Fire. I mean, I can ISO and see what I find but just eh.

this is unrelated to it being a hood completely

Reading the White Fire ISO.

I agree with them. Blocking a townread of your for no good reason is counterproductive.

- Y

Seriosuly there is obviosuly a reason I am not discosing

JESUS CHRIST

I think this was a pretty scummy post from Yume. It also makes me feel like Fire is town, b/c I think PR town thinking they are goining to do something super great with their action is a thing.

what a productive post!

his top 2 scum reads are both town.

I mean, his reads are REALLY bad but I don't think bad reads nessisarily=scum.

i appreciate you helping me wake up with a smile

I could maybe get on that wagon because Eddie is really hard to read and I think he should have me placed as firm town by now?

Do you have any actual good reasons for TOG

you are my "strongest" townread that doesn't factor in mechanics (Fire Bee RC Maki Pump). there's just like 3 people left so PoE.

I also liked RC's post that atleast one of Maki or TOG are scum.

lol x3

- NC I don't have a ton to say on. RC is confident here, and I have no reason to townread them at all. This is what I need out of your slot to change my current read that RC is probably right and you're probably scum.

This is really go with the flow type stuff.

So I don't think I'm exactly gonna get in the way of that wagon even though I don't know why it's being pushed.

ditto this

because i'm sheeping RC saying you're 100% scum in our hood, you're getting recycled thoughts. you still haven't posted a scum case for maki or RC, is it because they're unjustifiable scumreads I don't see why you expect KMD to not "go with the flow" when he hasn't read the game.

literally ten minutes before chara/elli got dayvigged (and htis is almost certainl ythe reason for the dayvig) chara implied that Elli and it had a bet on whether Maki was scum.

Chara dies immediately after and says that Elli said that the partners are obvious

so yes 100% of the time there is scum in the hood so at least one of TOG/Maki should be scum

yes, and this. he's saying either I am scum with Mayo who told Mayo RC is a day vig / Mayo and I rolecopped him last night or Maki is scum who vigged Chara within 10 minutes of Elli having a slight chance of crumbing a scumread on her. ty.

[The Other Guys]

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scum nero vs town nero being a sarcastic asshat in WR mafia, you being a trash player just makes it easier to sort you

[The Other Guys]

So me and Illy are you top scum reads? That's nice but also wrong. Even I I end up being lynched today I'm going to flip town and then you'll have to trust me on Illy at wich point you'll be 0 for 2. Who is scum?

this is scum nero u can hammer it whenever

^^^^

Obviously you guys are the experts with what, 0 games with scum Nero?

not.reading.the.game, so this is lol x4

Then what was that post

Just shade?

you aren't like reading this thread at all are you? Go back up to 1939 and read down from there.

[Eddie Cane]

yea it didn't copy right

[Eddie Cane]

lol no. I'm saying that you assuming that my reads have to be from scum as opposed to just bad reads is a leap in logic.

having awful reads is always a scum tell

lol @ buddying up to a player so they don't vote you.

lol @ not being able to read my posts and see that for yourself. lol @ saying its buddying for speaking to my friend in a friendly manner as opposed to speaking to a jackass in a jackassy manner.

maybe he's not reading the game b/c he's scum?

go fuck yourself for trying to use him having personal issues as a reason to mislynch us. irrelevant, but KMD is better than you 20 fold, if we were scum i would be the one lurking out for ~redacted~.

[Eddie Cane]

i don't think there's a point in continuing this discussion because i'm comfortable you're town but let me know if you want to i can reply

[Eddie Cane]

yo

[Eddie Cane]

how are you chicka

[Eddie Cane]

not bad, on break rn. the ush.

[Eddie Cane]

there's only a day left til dl, don't intend to move my vote

[Eddie Cane]

thats the only post from boon i think

youll get to see the hood for yourself after tonight

[Eddie Cane]

lol i'm addicted to minesweeper now fuck me

[Eddie Cane]

I got prodded. Will post tomorrow.

-Boonie Toonie

this and the PT one is it I think?

[Eddie Cane]

please don't laugh at me when we see it

[Eddie Cane]

Why are we a town read for you? We’ve both been inactive.

this and onward in the iso is boon. @ Eddie. What were you getting at by pointing out that boon hadn't been posting?

waiiiit

so frog hasn't actually posted? like, other than 1687/88?

i was just musing at you saying it was their worst post because i thought it was their only post but this makes more sense

[Eddie Cane]

The interaction from #1689 to #1694 looks genuine and feels like you had a good reason to out that. I've also seen town frog and Flavor Leaf flake out hardcore until endgame which is quite the contrast from that Screenplay Mini game which ended recently (wrt Flavor Leaf).

Hmm, Froggy was town there, and I was scum inactive for the most part. Interesting.

-Boonie

boon was here right after though, and i know boon and rc do not have a good history. i dont know if frogger and rc have any relationship. they should clarify!

[Eddie Cane]

who didn't notice the switch in o.o

[Eddie Cane]

Scum should give town with bad reads the suicide bomb to maximize town deaths.

Except that it's a dayvig which could cause surprise game end?

Eh probably not, but now that I'm thinking of it, they could arm up to make lynches on them not total losses.

and the fact it only suicide 1 head so it can endgame, and the fact doggo is an easy as fuck read as much as I love both heads

[Eddie Cane]

Eddie, does scum doggo or doggo in general has to hood you, in your honest opinion?

I don't think scum doggo hoods me ever. I also don't think scum doggo plans on endgaming with me itg. he has virtually never fooled me. I had him as scum in the hood from very early he's like not good

[Eddie Cane]

gonna drive home from work I'll be back to claim in an hour if needed

[Eddie Cane]

rl ncs judcmm read their fucking postsfthdiwo idn't rten ready to prdjwi rell

[Eddie Cane]

claiming both the gif and Kokichi kills
at work rn more later

[Eddie Cane]

I'll give an articulate reply from my computer

[Eddie Cane]

are you strongman?

[Eddie Cane]

i think this was townsided honestly. gonna seperate unrelated thoughts by line breaks

town had a lot of really fuckin strong roles

my role was quite good, but our partner's roles were both eh and not really claimable. we also didn't have a real roleblocker, nor a real redirector.

baiting RC onto doggo or whatever you think happened wasn't a thing. i could govern the lynch and if he had dayvigged us (we didn't know how that worked) i was bulletproof and i docced kmd so it would've been even funnier. doggo was just scumread by RC and Elli hydrae and that's how that happened. i naturally would have scumread them so i was forced to as scum, i don't lie about reads like that.

I can't tell if Eddie and me just had a silent understanding that we were both not town or we were trying to pocket each other
but I knew
I always knew LOL

100%. i killed elli chara partially for you <3 like i didn't think you knew beeboy but i was p sure you knew i wasn't town

WE WERENT A REVIVER >.<

We didn’t know who it was lol

i personally didn't think there was a full reviver. a stumper or partner revival or something was way more likely to me.

yesterday was never really a threat, i was going to govern my lynch and assert nonlynchable if it happened. then i would've been killproof with kmd and beeboy was a global townread so we were still in good shape, lynching nc was just better. realistically, i didn't think my lynch was ever gonna happen because sm / maki / bee were obviously never gonna vote it.

i would have rathered scum power be more evenly distributed, though at least i got the good role.

this is all me and not the scum team as a whole talking, this post as a whole if that's not obvious. kmd really wasn't there, and it was annoying because this game was not as enjoyable as the last one at all (get off rat).

RC was not a threat to our team role or play wise. as you can see, he killed titus for us. if he lynched one of us when we weren't bussing i could lolgovernor it. we would not vote him and allow him to dayvig us but i had a cycle doc that worked in the day too. we did not need to night kill him until we got to the point in the game where he was the only unlynchable slot. i permawatched pump because i knew we wouldnt kill them and they were not an early mislynch target. gamma raptor was my choice because it was unlynchable. elli chara was my day vig, discussed by us in discord i think we all leaned towards it. can't speak for giga but I wanted to bomb fire because global townread that was probably a more threatening role than rc.

jj, thought you'd appreciate that your bomb win gave town the only chance they had - kmd was being docced by me and your kill would have failed otherwise giving me a day motivate and all of kmd's extra night actions. those hours were worth it. also, u a real one telling dumbasses not to scumread me for nai things because its true despite the fact i was scum. i wasn't lying, i dont think i have the experience with you to read you.

[Eddie Cane]

gg all

[Eddie Cane]

i think this was townsided honestly. gonna seperate unrelated thoughts by line breaks

town had a lot of really fuck

I don’t think anyone is arguing it’s Town or scum sided.

When a game is such a fricking clusterfuck of shit. I don’t think anything really works. It’s just like throwing a cement block in the water and hoping it floats

ya uh

i kept seeing the flips and i was like what the fuck why is every role broken this is like the poster for role madness

i still think this would have been way more enjoyable if someone not-rc got that role or if that role didn't exist

[Eddie Cane]

lol this

didnt hit 100 pages

[Eddie Cane]

i just deleted our scum discord so i cant get logs maki but uh

i asked beeboy to be on for when i got on my comp so i could ask him about scum claiming to you OR faking a guilty and mislynchign you if he didn't like that

why didnt YOU claim 3rd party i even killed kokichi to ensure nobody else would visit so itd be a wholesome environment

[Eddie Cane]

LIKE IF THE HOOD WAS JUST ME AND EDDIE
I was 100% claiming to him

i did the dirty work of killing rcdra too -_-

tsk tsk DUNn

[Eddie Cane]

i was trying really hard to make it look like self meta was my partner cause i knew beeboy would need that mislynch if it came down to it, soooo yay me apparently

[Eddie Cane]

LIKE IF THE HOOD WAS JUST ME AND EDDIE
I was 100% claiming to him

i did the dirty work of killing rcdra too -_-

tsk tsk DUNn

I KILLED RC LAST NIGHT FOR YOU TOO BABY

LMAO DID WE BOTH KILL THAT HYDRA

[Eddie Cane]

we are officially friends after this game maki <3

[Eddie Cane]

Wow

Good job for actually completing a board then Eddie because everyone else is unable to play minesweeper

i was happy with 440, ck was bragging to us in the scum discord about how easy it is lmao

[Eddie Cane]

Wait eddie did you kill Chara because eli said he sus'd me in the hood

partly

it was between fire and elli i wanted elli idr who was pushing fire and when he said that i shot it. we had to vig quickly cause we thought there was a chance rc's role would just end the day before we could use it a second time

[Eddie Cane]

boon and frog would have done you over me regardless

[Eddie Cane]

was squid literally only hydra who uses night actions well

[Eddie Cane]

I voted for the beeboy one but I thought it was drawn by elli

[Eddie Cane]

did you guys know this is ellibereths first town loss