Open 812 Guardians of the Fortress - Game Over
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I read the setup briefly and it seems if we get all of the bad people to sign up for the same location we shall win immediately.
Seeing as they are probably not so stupid as to do that, perhaps we should try quickly putting all the good people into two locations and then the bad people will be stuck going to the last location?-
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I am sad that you are either wrong or scum and I shall endeavor to figure out which.In post 34, absinthe wrote:
I scumread this post. :/In post 31, Anastasia wrote:I am very happy I opened my role PM and it is wonderfully green!-
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The issue with this plan is that by removing agency from players you make it easier for the bad ones to hide.In post 27, Something_Smart wrote:
Yes, I believe so.In post 25, Infinity 324 wrote:Having a UTR decide who goes where should increase our odds of winning (of forcing someone to scumclaim by not following the plan) right?
I do think there should be some accountability - however lol-locating might actually be good if our initial instincts are correct.
I think of this somewhat like a dance game where you are dancing with three instead of two.
With that said, I am looking for two wonderfully townie players to share a lovely evening under the stars with me.
I would like them to be so obviously town that I have no doubt in my heart that I can trust them.-
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I think your mindset might be wrong for how you are approaching this game.In post 37, absinthe wrote:Two scummy posts in a row. I'm not really anxious to wind up in a day 1 tunnel, but I suppose it could be worse.
Rather than finding those who you can trust, you are trying to spread suspicion.
I'm unsure if this is scum motivated for now.-
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In post 39, Something_Smart wrote:
Using the the locations as a one-shot scumteam guess is... a thing we could do, but probably not the most efficient use of it given that the odds of actually getting it right are so low.In post 33, Anastasia wrote:Seeing as they are probably not so stupid as to do that, perhaps we should try quickly putting all the good people into two locations and then the bad people will be stuck going to the last location?
You misunderstand me,
I think the best way is to have groups of three who mutually townread each other.
For example if I trust you and unwnd, and you and unwnd also trust me and each other, we could all go to the Wall together. If all three of us are town and the other group of three townies also find each other successfully, it would be a win.
I know the odds are not great but it is a dream for me.-
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True but the activity of doing so will give us a decent amount of informationIn post 49, Something_Smart wrote:
I don't think so? You're saying that we can try to force all three scum to be at the same location. We can try, but we'll almost certainly fail.In post 41, Anastasia wrote:You misunderstand me-
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The hard to reads have to go somewhere dear.In post 75, absinthe wrote:
Because we could wind up with 3 hard to read players in the Keep if people just jump in there without establishing themselves in the game first.In post 70, Anastasia wrote:sure Absinthe but if she's not easy to read by the time the voting comes around she will not be voted the Keep Representative so why would it matter?
I think scum would probably like that.-
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In post 83, unwnd wrote:
I'm trying not to apply a filter this game, I think activity/social ability is really crucial this game because each minigame is pretty much a XYLO where you need to be cognizant of the people you're withIn post 77, Anastasia wrote:Unwnd are you writing what you think or thinking about what to write?
Will we not get to decide collectively at each mini game?
I did not read the rules that carefully.-
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ApologiesIn post 85, absinthe wrote:Please don't call me dear.-
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It's probably your strong charisma that has us all fawning over you making goo-goo eyes like besotted schoolgirls.In post 87, unwnd wrote:I don't understand what I've done to garner attention besides post a lot
But that's against the point-
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Well if you become as blazingly townie as you promise, then it would make sense to send the scummy/nully people to the keep with you right?In post 84, Briar wrote:I think the point is more that it's probably objectively the Worst to send the hard to reads to the Keep because if they're all like, in that place where scum end up a lot of null-town/townleany it's a fucking headache to deal with.-
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It feels like he's thinking of what to say instead of just reacting in the moment and I feel a shadow there.In post 90, Briar wrote:In post 82, Anastasia wrote:Briar I think Unwnd has given us the cold shoulder because his heart may not be pure
this is tragic and I'm starting to cry a little inside.
Assuming this is why you're thinking that? Explain please.In post 77, Anastasia wrote:Unwnd are you writing what you think or thinking about what to write?-
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I think it's important to be true to who you are <3In post 94, Briar wrote:(I can tone it down if it really is too much but this just who I am.)-
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He didn't have the need to react to anything earlier.In post 101, Briar wrote:Mm.
I would feel a little bad genuinely if it was because unwnd was overwhelmed by how like, I guess, weird I am acting towards him as a 'stranger'. Did you feel like his posting had that quality before or after I arrived in thread?-
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I want you to be town unwnd - I hope you are!In post 105, unwnd wrote:Your assumption isn't wrong, but that is far more telling in the opposite direction of how you're preemptively reading me, in terms of self-bias-
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I assure you that our only interactions are in this game thread.In post 115, absinthe wrote:
I do too, regarding the resonance. It doesn't feel particularly anchored to gamethreadstuff.In post 111, unwnd wrote:She seemed warm to you, mentioning that you seem to understand her. I felt a lot of emotional resonance between you two-
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Why is it confusing for two people to vibe?In post 117, absinthe wrote:The possibility that this is not the case has crossed my mind, but mainly the emotional content just doesn't feel this-game-related.
Which is confusing.-
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In post 121, unwnd wrote:I think what's going on right now (despite being apart of it) is that you have different players who appreciate different things. When it came to absin, I gave her a loaded question because I wanted to engage an unknown. To my surprise, absin was actually quite known and perked me up a bit. My question to you Ana is why the means of which me/absin had conversation vastly telling to how you/Briar did?
Your question confuses me.
You do understand I know I'm town right?-
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I enjoy finding town-reads by vibing with people.In post 124, absinthe wrote:think about it.
It is fun for me.-
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I think the way you play is perfectly fine and if anyone thinks its inappropriate or rises to the level of cheating they can make their complaints privately to the moderation staff.In post 145, Briar wrote:And I know I said I would try to tone it down some but this is sort of just my personality and the lens I view this game through, I guess you could say character but that's not quite right, and trying not to be this sort of person just ends up hamstringing my ability to play. Which uh, sucks if people think it's detrimental but meh, what can I do.-
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Ok but do you think we are scum trying to pretend to be town?In post 147, unwnd wrote:Some recent games I have indeed been a bit of a prick. It wasn't intentional on my part but I get really tilted by some things. One of them is how I want the game to played, which usually contrasts with how it's played. My understanding of You/Ana right now is that you're social players and feed off the energy of the room, while not getting caught up in details. I think that behavior is the most easily faked and something that is harder to read because of it.
Your explanation is pedantic without substance.
If you think our behavior is NAI I don't see the point of pretending you are very bothered by it.-
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It's fine for you to not give me or Briar alignment points one way or the other - but it has nothing to do with why I found your response to Absinthe scummy.In post 149, unwnd wrote:And you understand I am as well? My point was that we see the game differently and want different things out of it. If I'm being blunt I'm not further to determining your alignment after what happened with you/Briar.-
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None of this explains why you don't want me and Briar to have fun vibing.In post 154, unwnd wrote:I think that if you're scum you're going to play up your best traits in order to be townread
If you're town, those should come naturally?
If you think what we are doing is fake-able, then it's NAI behavior and not really important to the game - your mood should be indifference.
If you think what we are doing is scum theater, your mood should be suspicion.
Instead I'd say your mood is that of being "annoyed" - which fits well into the mindset of a scum who is upset that town players are giving each other townreads off NAI content as it tips the balance of the setup.-
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This is just so suspicious to me.In post 157, unwnd wrote:I think as it stands I think I'd like to see how the room feels about these interactions before I come to my own conclusion
Right now I would give you benefit of the doubt however Briar purely in terms of your openness. I don't know what Ana exactly wants from me but I'm sure we can figure it out.
Why would your reaction to our interaction be colored by what the rest of the room feels?
Your reaction should be thoughts you have...
It's almost as if you are testing the waters because you are unsure if you should commit here.-
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I think it's fine for you to NAI-bin all of the emotional interactions in the game but it wouldn't explain why your post feels like you disapprove.In post 171, unwnd wrote:
I try really hard to not let my emotions guide my decisions. Do you think that's foolish of me?In post 170, Anastasia wrote:The approach isn't what is scummy to me - it's the emotional undertone I'm reading in the post and how it doesn't match up with the mindset.-
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She's one of the best scum players on the site. I would not trust her anywhere near the Keep.In post 176, unwnd wrote:I liked Absin's mentality early and was willing to give it a pass.
Your reaction to her self-meta of towntelling easily gave me chills.-
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I try to solve the important people first.In post 176, unwnd wrote:I think you (Ana) are very sensitive to my alignment and want to figure out what it is, so you're picking through my logic and trying to find inconsistencies. I don't think the notion is scummy and I want to believe it's in best interest.
Do you think I'm faking my solving of your alignment?-
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I have more suspicion of your slot than her slot.In post 195, unwnd wrote:I'm not sure yet, could you get back to me on the other stance I provided re: Absin/Me being scum together?
Maybe it's because you've done more things in general and I'm tunneled.
I struggle with that sometimes.-
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This is ironic because your avatar is also anime <3In post 126, Something_Smart wrote:okay the anime avis are starting to get to me ngl-
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?In post 204, unwnd wrote:So the feeling you had previously to her scumreading you was fleeting then? It seems you dictate your thoughts based on how people treat you.
I don't understand.-
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It is rare for a scum to have the ability to be the most townread person in a game - most good scum excel at hiding or pushing through a mis-elim etc.In post 226, unwnd wrote:I liked her early impressions, wasn't specifically a statement. Hence I said 'mentality'
I wish to just let be things how they are for right now
Absinthe is one of the few scum who are good at being townread while scum.
She is absolutely the most dangerous person to put in the Keep.
I think you know this, so that's why your reaction to her statement just doesn't make sense for me.-
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I'm not saying we shouldn't trust Absin because she's a good scum player.In post 232, unwnd wrote:My last thought on this topic is that
I don't think it's right to tinfoil a competent player early. All you're doing is making them less approachable to others and in turn maybe even irritated. That seems especially true for absin right now, as the conversation has been more about her instead of you know, towards her. Does that make sense? I'm going to believe that if absin is doing things I agree with then well, they're just that. At least for now.
I'm saying we shouldn't put her in the Keep.
It's not the same thing.-
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In post 242, Infinity 324 wrote:Don't we want scumreads at the gate so we can force scum to conftown them? We might want one at the wall too to make the wall guardians' lives easier
I actually think we should get all town leaders at the Gate so we get an IC that we can all count on - but I will have to think about your plan.-
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I like thisIn post 247, Dunnstral wrote:Don't forget that mafia can perform a swap-
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I think it would have more meaningless mech attached if he wanted to make it look wordy for towncred.In post 252, Something_Smart wrote:How would one say that with said undertones?-
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You keep saying this as if I am trying to harm you in some way.In post 253, absinthe wrote:It's basically a meme that I give out easy townreads during the first few pages of a game. It's very rare for me to get a scumread that quickly. So rare that I'm not even sure what my accuracy rate is. I have no idea who anastasia is, but she's obviously familiar enough with me to string together some exaggerations that don't look too off base to players who don't have a lot of with me.
I haven't done anything of the sort - I simply do not want to bet the Keep Mini Game on your slot.
It's not even a condemnation of your play or a scum-read on you.
Some players are easier to town-read accurately than others are.
You stating that you could town-tell adequately to be the Keep Chosen should not have been accepted by unwnd at face value
because he's literally seen you dismantle an entire town solo by yourself almost.
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There were enough people townreading your slot in that game that you were unlikely to be eliminated.In post 261, absinthe wrote:In my last scum game, which was abandoned by the mod, I was probably getting day-1 elimmed, which would have lost the game for my team.
You are very good at getting enough people to believe the lie.-
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It's something scum are comfortable doingIn post 263, Something_Smart wrote:
Why would saying meaningless things get him towncred?In post 258, Anastasia wrote:I think it would have more meaningless mech attached if he wanted to make it look wordy for towncred.-
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In post 266, Something_Smart wrote:But scum are not comfortable stating facts about the setup without adding fluff?
Can you make your point so I don't have to waste too many posts on this pedantic back and forth?-
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I liked the way he stated it because didn't have any performative nonsense added to it - I wouldn't say it's a townread.In post 269, Something_Smart wrote:My point is that your townread on Dunnstral is nonsense and he would say the same thing regardless of alignment, but that's not why I was pressing you... I wanted to understand your thought process to see if I thought it was genuine.