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Explain what's wrong with the first four posts you quoted.In post 75, implosion wrote:VOTE: Datisi
Don't like his slate of posting so far. 14, 44, 46 and 47 all feel like "yes, i am here and doing things in this game, and thinking about things, how are you fellow townies". Especially the latter two. I also feel like the statement "my rvs vote is no longer rvs"hasto be >rand scum. It just has to be. I don't really see how 20 from me being a "vaguely pointless question" makes it a scummy post. I can certainly understand seeing that post as scummy but I don't like the way Datisi's described it.
I want to call N_M's play so far townie and am not sure what Gamma is talking about with MURDERCAT about it.-
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Weird overreaction to a simple misunderstanding. You are probably scum.In post 76, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You literally skipped the post with the connectionIn post 74, bugspray wrote:In post 6, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want everyone to pick out two people. For the rest of D1, you must treat them as hard town
how quickly you contradict yourself is pretty weird, these two statements cannot exist togetherIn post 10, Gamma Emerald wrote:If someone sticks to a questionable TR it’s probably a partner tell
Sticking to a questionable TR because you have to as part of the wackstrat could never be a partner tell.you absolute baboon-
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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
This is outed actually. He was angry at bugspray being a baboon, implying anger at bugspray's stupidity or lack of reading comprehension. But then he votes bugspray on the basis that they were mafia and intentionally trying to make them look bad. Which makes them scum, not someone who lacks reading comprehension. I think Gamma is mafia who got tilted at being suspected for the wrong reasons by a townie who didn't read their post properly. Which is why he initially calls them a baboon and then switches to a fake reason to attack them after.-
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Town.In post 90, Not_Mafia wrote:
Lol, so scumIn post 75, implosion wrote:VOTE: Datisi
Don't like his slate of posting so far. 14, 44, 46 and 47 all feel like "yes, i am here and doing things in this game, and thinking about things, how are you fellow townies". Especially the latter two. I also feel like the statement "my rvs vote is no longer rvs"hasto be >rand scum. It just has to be. I don't really see how 20 from me being a "vaguely pointless question" makes it a scummy post. I can certainly understand seeing that post as scummy but I don't like the way Datisi's described it.
I want to call N_M's play so far townie and am not sure what Gamma is talking about with MURDERCAT about it.-
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Town.In post 91, Klick wrote:So first of all, I'm not in a place where I can post lots of times per day. Most of my posting will come during my nighttime, and so it's gonna be somewhat sparse. Just flagging that now. I didn't wake up to 10+ pages so I feel hopeful that it won't be a problem here.
Over half of Gamma's posts have made me want to vote him so far, but that's probably a sign that I'm seeing things in his play that are NAI more than anything actually substantive.Going to come back to trying to read him when there's more to work with.-
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Did you see me explain why Gamma was most likely the mafia in that equation?In post 109, Datisi wrote:actually i think i'm gonna VOTE: bugspray
i don't think gamma provided any *great* rebuttals to bugspray, so the fact that they unvoted him anyway, and then voted implo (who just so happened to be the leading wagon) without any actual thoughts written out for why they did that? and with seeming a lot of confidence?-
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That's because it is.In post 110, Flea The Magician wrote:
And this feels massively over explanatory for page 4/5...In post 98, goats wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
This is outed actually. He was angry at bugspray being a baboon, implying anger at bugspray's stupidity or lack of reading comprehension. But then he votes bugspray on the basis that they were mafia and intentionally trying to make them look bad. Which makes them scum, not someone who lacks reading comprehension. I think Gamma is mafia who got tilted at being suspected for the wrong reasons by a townie who didn't read their post properly. Which is why he initially calls them a baboon and then switches to a fake reason to attack them after.-
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Let's say I accept your interpretation of Gamma's baboon comment.In post 122, Infinity 324 wrote:my interpretation of gamma is that in the first post he thought bugspray lacked reading comprehension but then it reminded him of a different game where they were pushing him in a way he felt was similar, so then he decided to vote.
i'm confident gamma is town
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This is a huge reach.In post 131, GuiltyLion wrote:
I don't like this, feels like you're embellishing calling it "massively" over explanatoryIn post 110, Flea The Magician wrote:
And this feels massively over explanatory for page 4/5...In post 98, goats wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
This is outed actually. He was angry at bugspray being a baboon, implying anger at bugspray's stupidity or lack of reading comprehension. But then he votes bugspray on the basis that they were mafia and intentionally trying to make them look bad. Which makes them scum, not someone who lacks reading comprehension. I think Gamma is mafia who got tilted at being suspected for the wrong reasons by a townie who didn't read their post properly. Which is why he initially calls them a baboon and then switches to a fake reason to attack them after.
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why's murdercat in the top?In post 137, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay I got three pages in
GuiltyLion
Gamma Emerald
Not_Mafia
Flea the Magician
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MURDERCAT
Dwlee99
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My top is who I feel good about. They are town I think. Bottom people are the PoE, maybe if I ordered them in vibe of null to scummy it'd be like??
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So you are townreading Murdercat because he isn't obvious scum out the gate?In post 139, Dwlee99 wrote:People voting me (infinity and guilty) are probably town for kicking my butt into action.
I also just liked their posting before that too
NM made a good start calling reads and stuff. I don't know how to read him but also he just seems uninformed.
I liked Gamma's entrance, it was good.
Flea also had a good entrance.
Last time Murdercat was evil I caught him very quick which is a pseudo-meta tell and also my scumdar is broken BUT I think he is town here because I don't think he is evil.
And you thought Gamma's entrance was good?
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I meant why those four posts were the way you said they were.In post 147, implosion wrote:
I... did? It's not like it's incredibly complicated or robust or anything. (And I'm not really interested in convincing anyone anymore so)In post 95, goats wrote:
Explain what's wrong with the first four posts you quoted.In post 75, implosion wrote:VOTE: Datisi
Don't like his slate of posting so far. 14, 44, 46 and 47 all feel like "yes, i am here and doing things in this game, and thinking about things, how are you fellow townies". Especially the latter two. I also feel like the statement "my rvs vote is no longer rvs"hasto be >rand scum. It just has to be. I don't really see how 20 from me being a "vaguely pointless question" makes it a scummy post. I can certainly understand seeing that post as scummy but I don't like the way Datisi's described it.
I want to call N_M's play so far townie and am not sure what Gamma is talking about with MURDERCAT about it.
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Super townie.In post 174, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did I troll implo into towntelling?
fuck im awesome
UNVOTE: implosion
carry on good citizens and hunt down evil-doers.
I heard murdercat is hiding in the forest somewhere being a baddie bad so maybe we yeet him instead.-
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Funny because stats show that when goats is in the game town has a 95% win rate.In post 194, Flea The Magician wrote:So as ever, I can't resist a bit of mech talk, even in an open.
Setup seems designed with maf only having night talk, but our setup has maf daytalk. Also given the stats on the wiki show that this game has a 73% scumwin rate, how're people feeling about this?-
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Starts off with a dumb busywork exercise that tries to show off how town he is. Then fluffs a bit. Then spends a few posts discrediting townreads on NM who I think is town.In post 209, Dwlee99 wrote:Goats why don't you like Gamma's entrance?
Enough people have said that all this is in Gamma's townrange for me to accept that their play this game and the baboon thing are NAI. But it's a real stretch to call it actively townie unless you have TMI.-
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Because it was.In post 217, GuiltyLion wrote:
How is it a "reach" to say your post wasn't over explanatory, especially not "massively" so?In post 200, goats wrote:
This is a huge reach.In post 131, GuiltyLion wrote:
I don't like this, feels like you're embellishing calling it "massively" over explanatoryIn post 110, Flea The Magician wrote:
And this feels massively over explanatory for page 4/5...In post 98, goats wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
This is outed actually. He was angry at bugspray being a baboon, implying anger at bugspray's stupidity or lack of reading comprehension. But then he votes bugspray on the basis that they were mafia and intentionally trying to make them look bad. Which makes them scum, not someone who lacks reading comprehension. I think Gamma is mafia who got tilted at being suspected for the wrong reasons by a townie who didn't read their post properly. Which is why he initially calls them a baboon and then switches to a fake reason to attack them after.
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What solving did Gamma do with his opening exercise? I didn't see him make many reads off it, he moved on really quick.In post 215, Dwlee99 wrote:Gamma wants to actually do something with his opening and use it to solve. It wasn't just the entrance specifically but also how he built off of it and showed how he wanted to use it to solve in a genuine way-
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I like Klick's 91. Flea is a lighter read but I liked the two reaction tests fae made (110 and 194). A little bit of gutread in there too tbh.In post 220, GuiltyLion wrote:
Why Klick and why Flea?In post 210, goats wrote:Pooky, NM, Klick, and Infinity can be trusted. Maybe Flea.
I think GL's vote on Dwlee can easily be partnered. I would call GL my second top scumread right now.
and especially how would my vote on Dwlee make sense as a partner vote when this is explicitly a setup that punishes bussing more than usual? Like if I were scum the last thing I would be doing right now is voting a partner when I could probably come up with an excuse to vote almost anyone
I don't care that the setup punishes bussing you made the vote very early on and in a context that allowed you to switch off him without incurring any suspicion whatsoever. You never outed a really strong scumread of him it was more like a "oh I can't find any other palatable options, guess I'll kick dwlee's ass in gear". All he has to do is show up and post and you have an excuse to shift the vote off him.-
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oh look you shifted off dwlee.In post 222, GuiltyLion wrote:thinking about it more I'm having a hard time seeing how us being partners is a genuine read or thought
VOTE: goats
It's almost like your initial vote on Dwlee could be easily moved anytime it was convenient for you, and to someone who's hard pushing him no less.-
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I already had a scum read of you independently, then I got a scumread on dwlee independently, and when I checked your interactions I see you softballing a vote on him so I say you could easily be partners. and lo and behold you immediately show up and try your best to dissuade everyone from that notion using faulty logic.-
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yes it is man you said the setup discourages bussing so you can't be partners with dwlee because you're voting him.In post 227, GuiltyLion wrote:
This is not at all what I said, actuallyIn post 225, goats wrote:3) GL says "I can't possibly be partners with dwlee, I voted him one time!"-
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it looks like the not engaging strat is working out well for me eh?In post 232, goats wrote:I'm not engaging w/ you any more. I'm not gonna convince you to admit that you're scum and I'd rather let you sit here and dig a hole for yourself.
@everyone else vote GL if you want to become confirmed town for free after he flips mafia. no mafia would vote for another mafia d1 after all-
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has gamma actually done any of that?In post 236, Dwlee99 wrote:
Gamma talks about how the info gleaned from it can be used later for associatives and to get people a core group to discuss things with.In post 219, goats wrote:
What solving did Gamma do with his opening exercise? I didn't see him make many reads off it, he moved on really quick.In post 215, Dwlee99 wrote:Gamma wants to actually do something with his opening and use it to solve. It wasn't just the entrance specifically but also how he built off of it and showed how he wanted to use it to solve in a genuine way
and if it's something that bears fruit d2 - shouldn't you be waiting until he actually comes through on it to townread him? otherwise he can easily make a bunch of promises and never actually follow through
it's strange to me that you're townreading him for essentially saying "i have this strategy that will produce good solves, but it will only come true later on", and you're townread him now for it, rather than when he actually produces results-
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it looks we all agree GL is scum and that he should be hung from the neck until dead today. (yes, GL, I am gloating and you can't stop me.)
I am interested in why @implosion thinks that GL would not react like this if he is partners with Dwlee. especially with Dwlee continuing to defend him after his attack on me.-
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around 275In post 292, Datisi wrote:
when did this happen??In post 291, goats wrote:in spite of everything i find myself having an odd gut read that dwlee is town lol-
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yeah i don't have a real reason for the read. it's purely gut. I'm not gonna ignore logic entirely and part of why I quizzed dwlee about their bottom four stuff was to try to figure them out a little b/c of the discrepancy between my gut and my logic. I'm really looking forward to their "re-eval" tbh.In post 297, Datisi wrote:
surprisingly enough that post made me feel worse about themIn post 294, goats wrote:
around 275In post 292, Datisi wrote:
when did this happen??In post 291, goats wrote:in spite of everything i find myself having an odd gut read that dwlee is town lol
idk if it's partnery, but it definitely sounds like a "scum defending a suspicious townie that they know wouldn't convince anyone". and also something rubbed me the wrong way about our exchange of:
- "why is this person town?"
- "i don't see scummy things"
- "okay, why are your scumreads scum?"
- "poe from finding town"
but maybe i'm nitpicking, i know i should stop tunnelling semantics. sometimes.-
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I'm still not engaging w/ you but I'm not a he. just so you know.In post 298, GuiltyLion wrote:Datisi please reread goats posts assuming you had my green flip
The way he pushes me just vibes scum to me. Arrogant, making up narratives, not grounded in any genuine suspicion. I think he knows I'm green as well
arrogance is NAI for me btw-
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oh yeah I guess I lied about not engaging with you because I'm really eager to hear your response to this:
multiple people (implosion, datisi, infinity) all echo the reason I had to scumread you (trying to convince us that you can't be partners with dwlee because you voted them one time). if im making up narratives and not arguing in good faith and my suspicion is just so bad it can't be genuine... what are they? scum too?-
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gentle reminder for GL in case he "forgot" about thisIn post 309, goats wrote:oh yeah I guess I lied about not engaging with you because I'm really eager to hear your response to this:
multiple people (implosion, datisi, infinity) all echo the reason I had to scumread you (trying to convince us that you can't be partners with dwlee because you voted them one time). if im making up narratives and not arguing in good faith and my suspicion is just so bad it can't be genuine... what are they? scum too?-
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alright.In post 317, Flea The Magician wrote:
You may be an alt but you don't know me that well it seems I rarely spew reads on demand.In post 283, goats wrote:@flea give me your strongest reads please. not just pokes and prods in response to posts, I'd like to know how you feel about the game as a whole.
do me a favor and go read murdercat's iso? it's not long I promise-
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I'm not gonna go through all these links because it's a waste of my time, but none of this addresses the primary reason that people have to scumread you which is the part where you tried to paint me as mafia for suspecting you were partners with dwleeIn post 323, GuiltyLion wrote:uh okay so this is definitely embarrassing but when I started going back through my old scum games/PTs to try to find good posts that would summarize why I don't like to awkwardly commit myself to suspecting/voting partners early game as scum, I actually realized that I forgot that Ididrecently try such a maneuver in my most recent scumgame last year, Forest Fire (link is to the initial distance vote)
here's my post after D1 in the maf PT where I am identifying how it put me in a bad spot, like this is pretty much exactly why I try to avoid it as scum because it played out risky/badly on D1 as expected. But it is kinda egg on my face to see I haven't been completely above trying that move, I remembered fighting with Ydrasse in game making posts more like this but forgot how tentative the initial distancing/vote was.
so while yes I guess I have done it before and maybe it's not unreasonable for someone to think that, I wasn't lying about how I don'tliketo do that as scum and I DO have the receipts of me saying this same thing as town:
1) here (last post before I was misyeeted in DnC, read this + quoted)
2) here ("the idea that I'd open the game as scum by pressuring my partner instead of anyone else I could go after is pretty questionable, to put it lightly")
3) here ("I can show you many past scumgames of me treating my newbie scum partners with kiddie gloves, especially on D1 since I don't like unnecessary attention on them until/unless I'm confident they can handle it." - this is speaking specifically about being partner with a newbie but the latter sentence is true for any partners)
4) here ("I doubt this one will mean a lot coming from me as it's WIFOM and self-meta, but as a point of pride, I really try very hard as scum not to be clumsy about my associatives with my partner. I'll always try to take a firm stance on them whether I'm bussing or townreading and commit to it, I don't make waffley awkward moves around them and if I decide to bus I commit. Later I can pull some scum PTs where I've said as much.")
5) here ("again, me being anyone's top possible scumread is fairly absurd, frankly. to think that I am scum means I decided to death tunnel one of my partners on D1 over literally any other available mislynch. I didn't just casually vote BuJaber as a distance and get stuck there, I put my foot on the gas for that lynch multiple times. Against a mason setup that's extremely suboptimal play" - this one is a slightly different context as I hardpushed scum!BuJaber to an eventual scumflip D1, but the phrasing/point is very similar with regard to a mason setup/white flag setup where Bussing is Bad with a capital B)
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yeah man you got me. I'm trying to convince the rest of the town to vote you out and am making posts that insinuate you are mafia. you really exposed my hidden motivations there.In post 326, GuiltyLion wrote:
serious question: why the scare quotes? Why is every post of yours an attempt to make me look as bad as possible?In post 318, goats wrote:
gentle reminder for GL in case he "forgot" about thisIn post 309, goats wrote:oh yeah I guess I lied about not engaging with you because I'm really eager to hear your response to this:
multiple people (implosion, datisi, infinity) all echo the reason I had to scumread you (trying to convince us that you can't be partners with dwlee because you voted them one time). if im making up narratives and not arguing in good faith and my suspicion is just so bad it can't be genuine... what are they? scum too?
this is also an attempt at a "gotcha" contradiction rather than a good faith reading of my posts, the obvious difference in context is that you specifically claimed to scumread both of us and that you see us as partnered, then went on to say I had no "palatable options" of voting elsewhere.
Whereas the others are more pushing back on my scumread of you and my argument that YOUR argument is fake. I don't believe any of them claim to share your view that Dwlee/GL was S-S, that's the difference.
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re: 299In post 335, implosion wrote:
I think his frustration and rhetoric of "I wouldn't play like this as scum" reads as genuine/I think faking that kind of thing (just absolutely blatantly lying about self-meta and claiming he can back it up) is not the kind of thing GL would do there as scum with Dwlee.goats wrote:I am interested in why @implosion thinks that GL would not react like this if he is partners with Dwlee. especially with Dwlee continuing to defend him after his attack on me.
I can agree with GL that Flea's 276 is somewhat shady. I can also agree with Datisi's 299 that that line from GL is somewhat townish.
More later at some point.
if you think GL is not partners with Dwlee but has independent scum equity then you should be a lot less willing to give him cred for 299. b/c getting frustrated and throwing out a bunch of meta links to prove your accusers wrong is something that scum who is caught for the wrong reasons could easily say, too. in a world where GL is scum but not with Dwlee and he's upset that I'm suspecting him for being paired with Dwlee when he's really not... he might easily have that reaction and try to use meta to rebut the part of my accusation he actually can.-
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assume these tiers are unordered because you aren't at the top of the top tierIn post 336, Dwlee99 wrote:The reeval you have all been waiting for
Gamma Emerald
PookyTheMagicalBear
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Flea The Magician
GuiltyLion
Datisi
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I now have a middle row for people that confuse me. Bask in the innovation I have created.
i like your bottom tier tho I obviously think GL should be in it. interested to know why you have datisi and klick in middle, i think they're both easy reads and town.-
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what's confusing about it?In post 344, Dwlee99 wrote:
GuiltyLion is a duh becauseIn post 342, Datisi wrote:why is guiltylion a "duh"? i don't think you actually said anything about him, other than you liked he kicked your ass into high gear, and then later on that you don't see anything scummy from him. did i miss you talking more in depth about him somewhere?
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This particular bit reads town to me. It's like, someone holding themselves back from making a read because they admit they could be biased. Weird and uncommon thing to fake as mafia, and if they were scum making a fake read on Gamma for agenda purposes they'd probably just drop the receipts and push it. There is a thread of uncertainty/self-doubt that feels genuine here but isn't being used to hedge.In post 102, goats wrote:
Town.In post 91, Klick wrote:So first of all, I'm not in a place where I can post lots of times per day. Most of my posting will come during my nighttime, and so it's gonna be somewhat sparse. Just flagging that now. I didn't wake up to 10+ pages so I feel hopeful that it won't be a problem here.
Over half of Gamma's posts have made me want to vote him so far, but that's probably a sign that I'm seeing things in his play that are NAI more than anything actually substantive.Going to come back to trying to read him when there's more to work with.
257 was also good. Mindmelds with me regarding GL's vote on Dwlee being weird and has a read on Dwlee I thought was a lot more likely to come from town:
This kinda stepping into other shoes stuff, trying to twist around and figure out mindsets and attitudes and whether or not someone is playing with a team, is something that is really hard to fake as scum (because you have to do an extra layer of it - you're stepping into the shoes of town stepping into the shoes of another player) but comes naturally for townies.Dwlee's catchup doesn't feel like they want to convince me they're town, which make s me think they're town. Feels a lot more like disengaged town than scum with a team relying on their survival
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