Since game just started, can give this tho.
{Save The Dragons, Gimli, furtiveglance, Cephrir}
{Ethel}
{Sail}
{Korina, Lady Lambdadelta (Detective Penguin, Radical Rat, Umlaut)}
{redFF}
VOTE: redFF
Be back tomorrow, hopefully.
By a technicality. I didn't have any real townreads. The top tier was weak townleans.In post 24, Cephrir wrote:Me in top tier on page 1? Now I really am malding
Confused, actually.In post 23, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:This is gonna be frustrating for you. I'm sorry in advance.
Confirmed this; roles flip but not night so I've claimed what I need to.In post 29, Ranger wrote:Pretty sure role flips in setup but not night of acting if I remember correctly so will say I act N1. (I should double-check that but full disclosure; I actually forgot this was an open. Thanks to how flavored it was I thought it was a theme. xD)
In post 38, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ranger is very scum
I've some bad news for your solve.In post 47, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:i beg you, come out and act sus so i can find all of you before page 5
Well that narrows down the number of players you could be significantly since I've only 3 but I sadly can't tell instantly who you were back then, sorry. <3In post 52, Detective Penguin wrote:my first game onsite was with ranger in diffusion of power. memories.
I'm quite certain I don't have anything which would be called "the tell".In post 62, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:every SINGLE one has the tell
Just realized LLD's not the only one I need to remind.In post 60, Cephrir wrote:you can't get me to townread you by restoring things to their rightful order
Well while you're the first person onsite people associate with penguins, you don't have a monopoly on them altogether. Especially for alts.In post 70, Detective Penguin wrote:Why are people pretending like it's that hard to figure out who I am an alt of?
By reading.In post 71, redFF wrote:how u got all these reads after 7 posts
Yes, I'm aware. I wasn’t saying you and I haven't played together. (That part was specific to Cephrir.)In post 75, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:But I have played with you, Ranger. You were literally scum with me.
In post 82, Ethel wrote:I am both confused and amazed at what you all are able to read, but I will try my best to learn this secret language so I may assist in the reading of things.
In post 83, furtiveglance wrote: Ethel same, me every game
Self-reminder to sort these when home.
Hi!!!In post 95, Umlaut wrote:Ih wow, Ranger is in this game! Hi Ranger!
You lack critical information. (Context.)In post 111, Umlaut wrote:I don't think LLD has said what the tell is, so how do you know it can't apply to you
I agree with these takes, with caveats to them.In post 80, Gimli wrote:some other minor things: LLD is a tentative townread cause she is deathtunneling a slot since very early and I don't see wolves doing that enough. sail's scumclaiming post was really awkward but I don't think is scummy. penguin seems intense this game which is good.
Thinking about it, I feel this is +town for Sail. Hopping off the Ranger wagon onto Gimli I don't think is scum there.
Thinking about it, I don't think furtiveglance is scum with Ethel, but looking at 82/83, I don't think both are town; I think one of these two is scum.In post 83, furtiveglance wrote:Ethel same, me every game
Time for a better one.In post 96, Ranger wrote:Have a temporary list.
{LLD, Gimli} (LLD down + Gimli up)
{Penguin*} (need to explain this)
{Nulls}{nonposters}{temporarily, the 3 I need to sort}
{redFF}
Kinda surprised you remember my play well enough to call 89 town but apparently don't remember I get page one readslists. :PIn post 109, Umlaut wrote:Explain Dragons and Gimli townreads?
Well you've given zero thoughts on any players.In post 114, redFF wrote:Is it obvious? Im not so sure...
Explain? Yes. Coherently to your standards? Probably not. :PIn post 121, Cephrir wrote:alright, since you say i'm confusing you with someone else: can you explain why redff is scum?
Clarification; my specifying we've never played before was made unrelated to your vote on me. You were making commentary I realized implied you were treating me like someone else. After I realized this, I stepped in to correct it.In post 132, Cephrir wrote:furthermore, she accuses me of this when i haven't said anything that implied my vote has to do with who she is or isn't.
In post 137, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Yeah you are, I know you are. Your callout about me being smug in confidence I'll live is wrong because I've every reason to believe you'll succeed.In post 122, Cephrir wrote:Look, I'm killing Ranger today.
I (apparently) don't know what formed your meta read on me. I know it's wrong. I know that doesn't matter, because you're convinced otherwise. Nobody except me dies today. Best I can do is claim my night (I did; N1) and form the best reads I can.
Sorry to disappoint.In post 169, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I only placed 3 votes that day, all 3 were on scum.
Your posts here are free of memes. On PenuinPower your posts are filled with memes (especially when town). A 1:1 translation would suggest scum, because the nature of content from you is too serious. Benefit of the doubt = assuming not a 1:1 translation and the +town content being +town, despite its seriousness.In post 172, Detective Penguin wrote:I would like for you to expand on why my posts are +scum if I were on my main. I don't really think my posts are any different than they would have been as either town or scum on any account except for volume.
Bad take.In post 163, Sail wrote:redFF had a very similar reaction to me so he can be lean town for now.
About 5 minutes I think. Post tags are a lifesaver.In post 191, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:This post must have taken you a long time.
This is also a terrible take for obvious reasons.
About that.In post 206, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ranger made a whole post about me going down a slot in their reads list based on literal nothing
Well I'm voting myself already; I can't exactly speed up my own demise faster than that, now, can I?In post 206, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:People should do what they need to do today to gather their own reads but Ranger needs to die today.
It's good "towntelling" in that it looks town. Regardless of your alignment your posts are +town. Applause-worthy.In post 212, Umlaut wrote:Why in the world do you applaud my posting? It's just, like, normal read-forming stuff, it's not great literature or dazzlingly brilliant rhetoric. The only reason you would applaud it is because you agree with it or think it's good towntelling, and you don't do either of those things.
Not a bad take by definition, sure.In post 210, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:it's not a bad take by definition.
My reads are fluid. Anything,
I literally created an entire fakeclaim without mod help (we had no pre-made claims) in my last scumgame.In post 232, Cephrir wrote:Ranger, what is your stance on lying about your role as mafia? I ask because the phrasing "I act N1" does not strictly indicate alignment.
Thinking about it, this is sadly plausible. It’s not enough to reverse my read, but redFF isn’t my strongest scumread rn.In post 231, redFF wrote:"Blatantly coasting" is town redFF
For someone claiming they're reading the game, you're apparently quite bad at it. :PIn post 243, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You should probably claim. You're dying today either way.
I realized I had her too low accidentally the first time, and corrected it the second.In post 250, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Hey, so what bumped Ethel up this list?
Punctuation is important. The location of commas is meaningful. :PIn post 254, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I mean come on she writes "contrary to your claims I'm trying to save myself" and I process that as a full sentence lmfao
She has no posts containing real content. I initially scumread that. At some point, likely when others engaged her (including a comment of, "she's a treasure, I don’t want to eliminate her"), I changed my mind. I'm not sure what to, yet. I need to give that thought. All I know is, she doesn’t belong among actual scumreads I have tangible reasons for.In post 258, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You realized you had her too low. Okay, so what made you overlook her and what posts of hers made you put her above Null?
"specifically for reading you (Ranger)", you said.In post 115, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:and it's specifically for reading you, so why share it now?
In post 307, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't want to play House of the Dragon 2.0 where I tell everyone Mastina is scum and then Mastina lives for days for 0 good reasons and we nearly lose because of it.
Uh-huh.In post 310, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It's the same thing that pinged me in HotD. If you can put it together, congrats. If you can't, I'm not going to be to one to arm my enemies against me.
Quickly, need to apologize for this.In post 326, Ranger wrote:You are despicable.
About that.In post 371, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Ranger has the same fucking tell, I saw it, I'm applying it, it's not fucking fair that I get lambasted like this.
I see no reason to.In post 393, Detective Penguin wrote:Can you please unvote yourself, Ranger?
For the record, I believe a town-furtive would be more passionate here. He's muted here. Lacks passion, lacks fire. Flat reads, lacking in his normal personality. He's stating reads (not great ones), and not demonstrating followthrough to pursue them.In post 220, furtiveglance wrote:I think Korina and Umlaut are town so far, how's that?
Disagreed. That's exactly what makes it scum.In post 226, Umlaut wrote:Also, the "pushing sideways" of offering reads on Korina and me when we are not really the topic of discussion seems to come from a more town place to me
Can you elaborate?In post 237, Save The Dragons wrote:I think I townlean korina
Fun fact I actually have games demonstrating precisely what I'd do. (As a hint, it wasn't posting a storm. That'd be gamethrowing. The more posts scum make the more info they leave which can catch their scumbuddies.)In post 253, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It's precisely what you'd do in this scenario.
Do I have this trait?In post 251, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I get you like to be obtuse and then claim how good your logic is by comparison to everyone elses (when it's never good, but I digress)
Gut? Vibes? It felt right at the time.In post 262, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So then why is she above Null?
Why were you not interested in me then, STD?In post 274, Save The Dragons wrote:nor am I super interested in her atm
She is!In post 299, Cephrir wrote:aren't you kind of admitting here that this isn't as ironclad as you're making it out to be?
Having the fourth-most posts in the game and constantly giving reads and backing them up with reason at every stage sure is a funny method of antispew. Not exactly my cup of tea though.In post 279, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It's just anti spew Ceph.
Clarify; is it the read (Umlaut scum), or the person making it (me), which frightens you to agree with?In post 277, Cephrir wrote:it frightens me to agree with you
Pretty sure it is.In post 409, Detective Penguin wrote:VOTE: furtive
that's probably e-1 idrc I just want this day over
This would be fine if we were eliminating the slot.In post 412, Detective Penguin wrote:I don't really have much empathy for an undefined v/la at game join.
I'd buy this as possible if, after your claim, your activity and content visibly improved.In post 417, furtiveglance wrote:All I wanted to do was survive to get my check done and now I can't even do that
To be clear:In post 732, Ranger wrote:I'd buy this as possible if, after your claim, your activity and content visibly improved.In post 417, furtiveglance wrote:All I wanted to do was survive to get my check done and now I can't even do that
While inadvisable, it's anacceptabletactic to deliberately underperform in order to deliver a result, despite the underperformance matching scumplay.
Having claimed, there's no reason to keep the underperformance up.
And yet your content is identical post-claim compared to pre-claim, suggesting the underperformance prior to the claim was not due to role.
In short: furtiveglance remains scum.
Correct, I'm getting to that. Give me a bit.In post 735, Save The Dragons wrote:no we're not doing the claimed N1 cop today
This is what I mean by a scum mindset.In post 427, furtiveglance wrote:I want to do my stuff but I'm obviously gonna die now
Believe me, the inconvenience of acting N1 is not lost on me. Sadly, it's what I was given, so I can't lie.In post 437, Korina wrote:Ranger claimed n1 too, and like... I feel like everyone getting ran up today will just claim n1.
To be fair: your read is wrong.In post 440, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ranger and my read?
Quite certain you never said that. Equally certain, you'd have pushed me if I did claim N1 cop.In post 452, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I said earlier today that if Ranger claimed N1 Cop I would let them live.
You apparently lack reading comprehension, didn't bother to read, or read and understood it and are being disingenuous now.In post 470, Korina wrote:I think Ranger 100% claimed n1 to buy time
I feel it important to demonstrate this point because I actually feel those using "LLD vs. Ranger" as an excuse are +scum.In post 739, Ranger wrote:Everyone has, repeatedly, said "the Ranger vs. LLD fight is distracting".
This, despite howLLD has noted my refusal to engage her.
There's no "Ranger vs. LLD" fight because I specifically made the choice toavoid entering that fight. I amawarea Ranger-LLD fight would be bad for the health of the gamestate. I've gone out of my way toavoiddoing so, so that my content is clear and visible after I've flipped.
LLD herself stated I wasn't engaging her rebuttals/points. LLD herself stated I was avoiding debate.In post 244, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ranger stopped engaging with any of my rebutals or points ages ago.
In post 421, furtiveglance wrote:LLD tunnel on Ranger sort of took over the day, and I found that interaction hard to read
There are likely more, but these are in the area and demonstrate my point:In post 476, Korina wrote:There’s actually nothing of note for me to read, unless you want me to dredge through the garbage of LLD v Ranger
I assure you the only way you die is after getting your Ranger mislim through since scum see it as an asset and excuse to be lazy.In post 520, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oh but if we're not doing Ranger today, if I die tonight, you fucking merc Ranger savvy?
While I'm not convinced, I'm actually inclined to agree.In post 591, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:you know that's a bad townie lol
Night of action doesn't show on flip. I needed to claim it for when I die. I plan to die, so there was a need to claim it.In post 657, Radical Rat wrote:When you get here, please explain why you thought this was a good idea
Yes?In post 674, Radical Rat wrote:Game's just started, and you decide it's just not worth arguing with LLD so you're gonna give up and die?
Make no mistake; I'd much prefer to live if not for LLD's push. Her push makes my death a necessity. It'd beIn post 701, Radical Rat wrote: I don't believe Ranger seriously thinks her sitting around waiting to die is actually helpful for anyone, and I definitely don't believe she thinks self-voting is going to do her any favors as Town.
If it's all the same to you, I'd prefer we waste only one day on my mislim rather than two.In post 600, Umlaut wrote:But in this case we off Ranger tomorrow regardless of her claim.
I've a better idea: we flip me today and when furtiveglance inevitably doesn't die overnight, you let him claim and flip him D2.In post 703, Save The Dragons wrote:i can't believe i'm spouting mech in a game so devoid of mech but ranger is a mechanically bad vote because of our current situationIn post 514, Save The Dragons wrote:if ranger is a n1 doc, she protects furtive and gets killed because scum think she could be a n1 cop. if ranger is a n1 cop, she dies because scum think she could be a n1 cop. if ranger is mafia, we can lim her tomorrow. scum aren't going to leave a potential n1 cop alive.
Not to my eyes.In post 740, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:OH WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE I DID SAY THAT
Beg your pardon but I believe I'm still voting myself and stated explicitly it's best to kill me today.In post 748, furtiveglance wrote:nor do you seem to consider your elimination the best outcome anymore. In fact it looks like you dropped that quite quickly.
Well about that. I've the right to some arrogance since I'm not the one campaigning for the elimination of a slot off of a tell about to be proven wrong by that slot flipping town. I'm the one who knows the tell is wrong and about to flip town. Some smugness is apt. :PIn post 745, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:the arrogant and self righteous parts though, that's just me being livid with having to deal with this passive aggressive self important superiority nonsense every time i come in this thread
I'm reasonably certain I've kept my commentary relevant. Korina's reading of my vote was self-evidently not reflective of what was present at the time. There are multiple possible explanations for this. One of those explanations is Korina being scum.In post 743, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:snipe at people with your passive aggressive comments. People who AREN'T EVEN IN THE GAME ANYMORE AND CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES YOU COWARD.
I count as someone.In post 769, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Literally no one is trying to kill you today anymore.
If it were any other player this would be sensible.In post 782, Radical Rat wrote:But to take your ball and go home because of an early scumread on the literal second page of the game... if you're not scum, it's at the very least incredibly selfish and anti-Town behavior.
The mechanics argument is nonsense.In post 784, Detective Penguin wrote:mechanically you are wrong.In post 783, Ranger wrote:Beg your pardon but I believe I'm still voting myself and stated explicitly it's best to kill me today.
Disagreed. The more claims for a night, the less likely all are to be town. Providing the information on which night I act informs the odds on other slots.In post 815, Umlaut wrote: Nights of action are chosen independently for each PR so it doesn't give us even partial information about anyone else.
Willing to go elsewhere, yes.In post 790, Radical Rat wrote:Clearly she's willing to go elsewhere and not just blindly tunnel you into oblivion
For those fond of VCA this should be gold for you.In post 819, LavosCore wrote:
You're being disingenuous.In post 831, Radical Rat wrote: She apparently has no interest in using her action whatsoever
I've done plenty to play the game. I continue to give thoughts on other players, including a continuously-updated readslists.In post 839, Radical Rat wrote:You saying D1 is better is just for you to justify not really playing the game.
This also applies to you.In post 858, Umlaut wrote:Nothing about her play today is pro-town.