Mini Normal 2277 - Frog Images (Game Over)

[KittyTacky]

ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba!!! im a 1000,0000 shot tracker baby!!!!!!!!

And I'm a Town Strongman Ninja Bulletproof Vigilante Cop Watcher Commuter.

[KittyTacky]

Anyways, it's a pretty rare occurrence for me to catch the first page. I played with or modded for most of this playerlist.

[KittyTacky]

I've analyzed all the posts in the thread and even though only half the playerbase has checked in, I have determined the wolf team beyond a reasonable doubt. I'd tell you all who the wolves are, but that'd make the game unfun for everyone else, so I'll hold off for now.

Also, hello everyone!

Spoiler: disclaimer

the term "beyond a reasonable doubt" here means with probability exactly 1/220.

"I have discovered a truly marvelous solve, which, however, the character limit is not large enough to contain."

[KittyTacky]

Kinda surprised no one called out my "hmmm..." post as suspicious.

Anyways, VOTE: Galron. This is a non-RVS vote.

What about it is supposed to be suspicious?

I've seen wolves "hmm..." posts to make it look like they're thinking hard about something while not actually giving any takes, and they can later use that post to fit pretty much any narrative (i.e. if I was a wolf and later today I push Galron, I could be like "see, I suspected them all the way back here!" vs if I decide to townread them, I could be like "yeah, I thought a lot about them as early as this and decided they look townie!".

This is TvT, I had similar misunderstandings as town and got dogpiled by other townies.

[KittyTacky]

Kinda surprised no one called out my "hmmm..." post as suspicious.

Anyways, VOTE: Galron. This is a non-RVS vote.

What about it is supposed to be suspicious?

I've seen wolves "hmm..." posts to make it look like they're thinking hard about something while not actually giving any takes, and they can later use that post to fit pretty much any narrative (i.e. if I was a wolf and later today I push Galron, I could be like "see, I suspected them all the way back here!" vs if I decide to townread them, I could be like "yeah, I thought a lot about them as early as this and decided they look townie!".

This is TvT, I had similar misunderstandings as town and got dogpiled by other townies.

This looks like TMI.

What "misunderstandings" are being had here?

About "hmm" posts.

[KittyTacky]

fucking hell why do I keep doubleposting I'm so sorry

I wonder if it's a forum software issue.

[KittyTacky]

GAMMA
KITTY
CRESCENT
MALA

COMBINE

TO SUPER SAILOR SCOUTS

LETS LIM GALRON

ARROOOOOWROOLOOOO

Baa baa. VOTE: Galron

[KittyTacky]

Lol

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[KittyTacky]

Kinda surprised no one called out my "hmmm..." post as suspicious.

Anyways, VOTE: Galron. This is a non-RVS vote.

What about it is supposed to be suspicious?

I've seen wolves "hmm..." posts to make it look like they're thinking hard about something while not actually giving any takes, and they can later use that post to fit pretty much any narrative (i.e. if I was a wolf and later today I push Galron, I could be like "see, I suspected them all the way back here!" vs if I decide to townread them, I could be like "yeah, I thought a lot about them as early as this and decided they look townie!".

This is TvT, I had similar misunderstandings as town and got dogpiled by other townies.

This looks like TMI.

What "misunderstandings" are being had here?

About "hmm" posts.

who exactly is misunderstanding who, though? Cresent simply asked me a question and I clarified. I don't see this as a misunderstanding, if anything it is us coming to a mutual understanding. So, what are you seeing? Where is this "tvt misunderstanding" you're seeing? Because from where I'm seeing, I think you didn't actually read the exchange, and slapped on "tvt" to a post without thought. Town probably wouldn't do this, and while it is possible a wolf could do this when their wolfmate is one of the subjects, wolves tend to be overly concerned with their partners, whereas you show a lack of concern/reading, so I'mma say it again, this looks like TMI.

I actually just realized I quoted the wrong post. I'm an idiot.

Kinda surprised no one called out my "hmmm..." post as suspicious.

Anyways, VOTE: Galron. This is a non-RVS vote.

I don't see the "hmmm..." post as suspicious, but the post telling us how suspicious it was isn't doing you any favors.

Unvote, Vote: Seanzie

This is TvT.

[KittyTacky]

Kinda surprised no one called out my "hmmm..." post as suspicious.

Anyways, VOTE: Galron. This is a non-RVS vote.

What about it is supposed to be suspicious?

I've seen wolves "hmm..." posts to make it look like they're thinking hard about something while not actually giving any takes, and they can later use that post to fit pretty much any narrative (i.e. if I was a wolf and later today I push Galron, I could be like "see, I suspected them all the way back here!" vs if I decide to townread them, I could be like "yeah, I thought a lot about them as early as this and decided they look townie!".

This is TvT, I had similar misunderstandings as town and got dogpiled by other townies.

This looks like TMI.

What "misunderstandings" are being had here?

About "hmm" posts.

who exactly is misunderstanding who, though? Cresent simply asked me a question and I clarified. I don't see this as a misunderstanding, if anything it is us coming to a mutual understanding. So, what are you seeing? Where is this "tvt misunderstanding" you're seeing? Because from where I'm seeing, I think you didn't actually read the exchange, and slapped on "tvt" to a post without thought. Town probably wouldn't do this, and while it is possible a wolf could do this when their wolfmate is one of the subjects, wolves tend to be overly concerned with their partners, whereas you show a lack of concern/reading, so I'mma say it again, this looks like TMI.

What's interesting is is you were voted for this immediately by some people, and I merely asked a question. If anything, this would potentially apply to other people who reacted to you, but not me.

This is exactly what happened, I misquoted.

[KittyTacky]

Lol

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How do you figure?

Your whole string of posts before the "Lol" is clear scum flailing to me.

[KittyTacky]

So

Welcome!

[KittyTacky]

My friend was just telling me about how she met someone who’s dog died in front of her on the spot after eating a poisonous frog

My cats would probably last an hour in the wild. Too much fur, not enough street smarts. If we let them out at night they would get eaten by a coyote.

My elderly (23 years old now) cat only survives going out because it's a safe neighborhood.

[KittyTacky]

I've never seen Gamma play with this kind of sustained bloodlust before and it's jarring to me.

Oddly though, it doesn't really scumping me. Gamma kinda doesn't strike me as the kind of scum player to try to murder off someone 3 pages into a game. Feel free to correct me if this is wrong, but this very much feels like town-tunnelvision to me. I constantly make associations the way Gamma currently is when I'm scumpinged on someone as hard as they seem to be on Galron.

If there's any vote on that train that gives me weird vibes, it's KT's... But honestly it doesn't even try to hide how obviously opportunistic it looks, and I'm not sure scum would vote that way so fast into a game.

I am a simple man. I see someone outrageously scummy, I vote someone outrageously scummy. I mean, I even made sheep noises.

[KittyTacky]

GAMMA
KITTY
CRESCENT
MALA

COMBINE

TO SUPER SAILOR SCOUTS

LETS LIM GALRON

ARROOOOOWROOLOOOO

Baa baa. VOTE: Galron

Lol

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I mean I agree with the sentiment of the posts but I find the tonal shift odd. I don’t think that Galron’s post is scummy enough that it can elicit enough of an emotional reaction to make KT say this.

I'm prone to hamming it up sometimes.

[KittyTacky]

It's just my meta to be loud and hammy with my pushes.

[KittyTacky]

I'm guessing Frogster is Kiri because it's both characters from the same game.

I found KT's vote to be over-the-top performative, and KT popped back to defend it but.. Still is lacking in actual content.

Tell me how I would defend a sheeped vote?

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky can I get some insight into your reads beyond galron?

Seanzie town, Crescent town, Mala slightly town. Gamma probably town too.

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky can I get some insight into your reads beyond galron?

Seanzie town, Crescent town, Mala slightly town. Gamma probably town too.

that's a lot of town reads

Because there are a lot of townies?

[KittyTacky]

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

[KittyTacky]

I'm uncomfortable with how many townreads kt has and how little analysis is happening in any of his posts, but crescent is pinging the fuck out of me too and I don't know if this is scum on scum or what

You never played with me. I tend to make a lot of gut/tone reads early.

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

so you don't scumread anyone d1?

Evidence can be a really scummy action. Like what Galron is doing RN.

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

whooooooo do you scumread I wanna know

Galron and you. Your role PM is as red as the bird you are named after.

[KittyTacky]

I hate this chainsaw and the weird passive-aggressive tone on it.

[KittyTacky]

Crescent repeatedly attempting to undermine the Galron wagon makes me think she could be scum, if Galron is but Sean/Eir isnt

I wouldn't say I've undermined the wagon, but I have questioned it. Three of the votes on that wagon are objectively very weak (Mala, Red, and Kitty), and the votes include 3 of the 4 lowest posters in the entire game.

And it's weird for you to jump to that conclusion because you know I question

everything

. You should know enough to be worried if I

didn't

question it.

The votes on Galron being lazy doesn’t mean that Galron isn’t scum. Galron could be scum and the votes are either bussing or lazy town, Galron could be town and the votes could be scum jumping on a wagon or lazy town. I do think that Galron is scum, and I think that KT is bussing Galron based on their interactions. The others votes on Galron aren’t necessarily AI.

Elaborate on those interactions then.

[KittyTacky]

I'm guessing Frogster is Kiri because it's both characters from the same game.

I found KT's vote to be over-the-top performative, and KT popped back to defend it but.. Still is lacking in actual content.

Tell me how I would defend a sheeped vote?

It's not the vote that bothered me - It's the post after the vote. It feels like it's drawing way too much attention to "look I voted scum" that it feels like S/S to me.

You did say it was normal for you to ham it up. Can you give me any examples?

...my basically every other game? I was pretty hammy in Mini Normal 2267, for example.

[KittyTacky]

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

Oh and Mala/KT can you explain your reads because you're apparently both townreading me and... Each other.

This early I read mostly on gut.

good, any gut scum?

I don't scumread on gut, I scumread on evidence.

so you don't scumread anyone d1?

Evidence can be a really scummy action. Like what Galron is doing RN.

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

whooooooo do you scumread I wanna know

Galron and you. Your role PM is as red as the bird you are named after.

no fucking way you actually believe I'm bussing galron

I mean you could be. I just really dislike your attempt at discrediting me that you framed as questioning.

why is my questioning of you weird? you say you think someone (me) is bussing him, why wouldn't I think the same of you?

Because of the tone and sudden turnaround from Galron to me. Good way to divert attention from your scumbuddy.

kittytacky is the kind of maf you wanna vote out last because his attempts to turn around on townreading the whole town are going to be hilarious

I'm not mafia so I'm not going to turn around on townreading anyone unless they scumslip.

do you agree that you usually do that when you're mafia

Yes I turn around on townreads as mafia.

This weird pushing on me smells like a chainsaw defense of Galron NGL.

well if you're going to try to push the people pushing galron you'd have a lot of work to do

Not everyone.

I hate this chainsaw and the weird passive-aggressive tone on it.

I am in no way defending galron, at this point barring the lack of anything from eater and what I want from mala I'm happy if galron got hammered right now

Then act like it instead of baselessly accusing another Galron pusher of bussing. You don't know how I push people at all.

[KittyTacky]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

[KittyTacky]

And you implied I have no scumreads when I'm literally hard pushing someone.

[KittyTacky]

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

[KittyTacky]

And you looked to me like you were trying to obstruct that.

[KittyTacky]

I

always

get heated when pushing people as town. Accusing me of bussing for that tone is ignorance of my meta.

[KittyTacky]

kitty there is no world in which I would want to hang you before galron, though my suspicion of you has been brewing for a long while and I can point to evidence for that. as for discrediting- having a lot of townreads is something I find really, really suspicious. what am I even discrediting, your gut? what would be the point of continuing to push galron right now? iirc at least two or three other people scumread him enough to be happy with a vote. honestly I feel like galron's in the bag and I believe galron's scum, so like crescent mentioned I'm trying to figure out what to think about that after, something I've been doing since I started questioning galron

1. I never said you wanted me to die today, necessarily, if you are scum bussing.
2. I had no idea this was something people considered suspicious, but that is simply how I play. I townread a lot of people early and focus on one or two scums. It just makes sense. There are way more townies than scumbags and I have no idea why that's sus.
3. Scum!you is discrediting

me

so I am easier to hang next. Town!you is just a wrong townie who doesn't know my meta I guess.
4. Well I always push people to the end even when they're in the bag.

lmfao what are you even talking about now I'm not accusing you of bussing for your tone

Then explain why you are accusing me of bussing.

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

unironically yes

Well that's bullshit.

[KittyTacky]

I guess we just have incompatible playstyles.

and just to clarify, the reason you might think I haven't been doing a lot of galron pushing is probably because I'm pretty satisfied with my vote for once in my life- I've gotten some sweet juicy takes from him, I'm convinced he's scum and he's committed to not really contributing much on his own, what else can I get from him? if you actually want him out today we should be on the same side today

See, I don't give up on my pushes like that. I genuinely didn't know people did that. I can see it now and I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry for pushing you, your tone honestly angered me.

[KittyTacky]

kitty there is no world in which I would want to hang you before galron, though my suspicion of you has been brewing for a long while and I can point to evidence for that. as for discrediting- having a lot of townreads is something I find really, really suspicious. what am I even discrediting, your gut? what would be the point of continuing to push galron right now? iirc at least two or three other people scumread him enough to be happy with a vote. honestly I feel like galron's in the bag and I believe galron's scum, so like crescent mentioned I'm trying to figure out what to think about that after, something I've been doing since I started questioning galron

1. I never said you wanted me to die today, necessarily, if you are scum bussing.
2. I had no idea this was something people considered suspicious, but that is simply how I play. I townread a lot of people early and focus on one or two scums. It just makes sense. There are way more townies than scumbags and I have no idea why that's sus.
3. Scum!you is discrediting

me

so I am easier to hang next. Town!you is just a wrong townie who doesn't know my meta I guess.
4. Well I always push people to the end even when they're in the bag.

lmfao what are you even talking about now I'm not accusing you of bussing for your tone

Then explain why you are accusing me of bussing.

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

unironically yes

Well that's bullshit.

The fact that you're the fifth vote, galron's reaction when asked about you, the out of nowhere vote, the lack of scumreads outside of galron. all of these things are things I find scummy, and the last two are things that I think are bad for town regardless of how galron flips, things I think scum do to try to make themselves harder to read after people start flipping. also I think I saw something I was thinking about back when I first questioned galron but I can't remember it, might find it in a sec. the chainsaw defense narrative is also just so bullshit like lol, it's not a chainsaw defense if I'm clearly not trying to switch mine or anyone else's vote off galron I'll be here until he's goneron

1. Because everybody who jumps on a wagon late is scum.
2. Because scum can't calculate their words to make townies look bad.
3. It wasn't out of nowhere, it was me sheeping.
4. It's early, I focus on one big scumread early.
5. It looked like a chainsaw to my pissed-off mind but you explained yourself so I dropped my SR.

it's scummy to have a lot of townreads because if you're town you have no idea who could be LURKING

This doesn't make sense, there are more townies than scum so it makes sense to have more townreads than scumreads. And I find it easier to townread than scumread.

I guess we just have incompatible playstyles.

and just to clarify, the reason you might think I haven't been doing a lot of galron pushing is probably because I'm pretty satisfied with my vote for once in my life- I've gotten some sweet juicy takes from him, I'm convinced he's scum and he's committed to not really contributing much on his own, what else can I get from him? if you actually want him out today we should be on the same side today

See, I don't give up on my pushes like that. I genuinely didn't know people did that. I can see it now and I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry for pushing you, your tone honestly angered me.

sorry about the tone, I don't mean anything by it. I just like being silly for its own sake sometimes, don't mean to come across passive aggressive
still don't like your push though and I don't buy the chainsaw defense thing was actually something town would come up with, even angy town

When I'm angry I say a lot of things I regret.

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

I do want to hear where this thought comes from, as just last night he went after me because he misread my posts and thought I was defending him.

I didn't stop pushing Galron tho. Neither did redcardinal but

that wasn't obvious to me at the time

.

[KittyTacky]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

I do want to hear where this thought comes from, as just last night he went after me because he misread my posts and thought I was defending him.

ooooooh if this is referring to me my pronouns are she/her

I think it's referring to me.

kittytacky can I get some insight into your reads beyond galron?

Seanzie town, Crescent town, Mala slightly town. Gamma probably town too.

Why am I town?

Gut and your response to pressure.

Good nyaight.

[KittyTacky]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

I do want to hear where this thought comes from, as just last night he went after me because he misread my posts and thought I was defending him.

ooooooh if this is referring to me my pronouns are she/her

I think it's referring to me.

kittytacky can I get some insight into your reads beyond galron?

Seanzie town, Crescent town, Mala slightly town. Gamma probably town too.

Why am I town?

Gut and your response to pressure.

Good nyaight.

What was townie about my response to pressure?

It smelled very townie.

[KittyTacky]

And now my screen is full screen frim pounding on the keys and I can't get it back

F11.

[KittyTacky]

I don't think scum would really respond that way, or say their post is scummy in the first place for that matter.

[KittyTacky]

You’re barely even pushing Galron, you posted an obviously performative vote on him a few days ago. If scum were going to chainsaw defend Galron, wouldn’t they just push someone who is going after Galron more aggressively?

Nah. I don’t believe you actually think that redcardinal is chainsawing you.

"Barely pushing" WTF are you talking about.

Also I mostly got mad at red because of their really annoying tone so I said things I didn't mean to say.

[KittyTacky]

The vote being performative is just my usual behavior around pushes, and Galron nullreading me might be scum making me look bad.

[KittyTacky]

Just because Galron is true claiming doesn’t make him town. That’s a naive mindset.

Yeah it's not even a strong role. Just because someone claims a PR doesn't mean we should let them off the hook if it's something like backup neighbor. Oh how will we survive without a backup neighbor?

[KittyTacky]

Also, bussing in this way is NOT something I do as scum.

[KittyTacky]

Oh and I don't see Kitty/Garlon being S/T based on like, pretty much everything Kitty has done. Scum rarely votes town with that kind of showmanship, and Kitty only got strongly defensive when paired as scum with Galron by multiple people, during which they accused someone of "chainsawing" or whatever and using Galron as an excuse to suspect them instead of suspecting Galron himself when it wasn't true.

If this is S/T, what is Kitty's motive in drawing so much attention to it, but doing nothing else? What is Kitty's motive in reacting to Red the way they did to Red iIf Galron is town? Why would they feel the need to be this defensive in the first place? I already personally said by this point I down think it's S/T, and that their vote is only the worst vote on Galron if Galron is scum. I feel like I'm not the only one with this mentality.

S/T doesn't make any sense to me here, and I don't feel like we're walking into some elaborate masterminded setup here, either.

I don't really agree with this post. There are plenty of ways Kitty/Galron could be s/t here. I don't agree that Kitty's vote couldn't be scum voting a townie. In a s/t world, Kitty saying Red was chainsaw defending Galron is a good way to continue pushing Galron in the situation and after a Galron townflip, Kitty has an out to back off Red, dissolving the tension there. Kitty's behavior has just been wolfy, and that is regardless of Galron's alignment. Galron's play has been more null IMO, not townie, but not directly wolfy either.

The issue I have is I don't see Kitty having any need to have that reaction to Red in the first place in that scenario. It feels unnecessary to go in that hard.

Kitty was starting to get heat, and they lashed out at the person giving them heat, trying to fight their way out of the heat. That is not an uncommon thing for wolves to do and does not depend on Galron's alignment IMO.

Wolves or frustrated townies.

[KittyTacky]

Reading back, KT is way harsher towards Red than my memory was telling me. I remembered it as them being defensive... But it's not quite that. #438-439-448 is kinda horrid spew that accuses Red of defending Galron, and immediately slots her as scum with Galron in a pretty blatant deflection.

Buuuut he also calmed down and backed off pretty quickly after that, which does feel like an actual progression.

Yeah I basically raged. NAI for me.

[KittyTacky]

Also, bussing in this way is NOT something I do as scum.

you did kind of vote your partner and push him a bunch in the open

Yeah but I wasn't so balls-to-the-walls aggressive there IIRC.

[KittyTacky]

Finally I push scum day 1.

[KittyTacky]

Lots of naked votes today.

[KittyTacky]

Sheeping Gamma Emerald. I agree with her points.
VOTE: Seanzie

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

I'm assuming this is in response to my question. Explain these points in your own words, please. What makes me sus? You can reiterate Gamma's arguments, but I want to hear YOUR takes on Gamma's arguments.

My take is that I basically got mindmelded with Gamma. Her posts were basically what I wanted to say to case you and I see no point in reiterating them.

[KittyTacky]

Idk what you’re trying to say here

"I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim" is you saying you thought you had quoted Galron's first post a while before they had claimed, at least as far as I can tell.

You then say to Schadd that you quoted that post specifically because Galron mentioned content in their first post.

Galron mentioned content in their first post in the same post that they claimed.

How could you think that you quoted Galron's first post a while before Galron claimed when Galron's claim-post is the post that you are saying led you to quote Galron's first post? Like being a little forgetful about something is okay, but that's kind of a weird "Oh let me look into Galron's ISO because of their claim, but let me forget that this was about their claim" moment.

I'm not just "a little" forgetful. Especially early I can just not be feeling the game and make dumb errors like that. That is NAI for me, I am stupid as town too.

[KittyTacky]

Seanzie scum, T3 just wrong town.

[KittyTacky]

Redcardinal also probably wrong town TBH.

Good nyaight.

[KittyTacky]

I'm pretty much never convinced by people making arguments from their own meta

Well it's a fact that I do dumb shit day 1 as both town and scum.

[KittyTacky]

if you brought it up, it's something you're aware of and thus able to subvert

How would I "subvert" something I do as a consequence of my poor tonal acumen that I do as BOTH alignments?

[KittyTacky]

Idk what you’re trying to say here

"I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim" is you saying you thought you had quoted Galron's first post a while before they had claimed, at least as far as I can tell.

You then say to Schadd that you quoted that post specifically because Galron mentioned content in their first post.

Galron mentioned content in their first post in the same post that they claimed.

How could you think that you quoted Galron's first post a while before Galron claimed when Galron's claim-post is the post that you are saying led you to quote Galron's first post? Like being a little forgetful about something is okay, but that's kind of a weird "Oh let me look into Galron's ISO because of their claim, but let me forget that this was about their claim" moment.

I'm not just "a little" forgetful. Especially early I can just not be feeling the game and make dumb errors like that. That is NAI for me, I am stupid as town too.

This feels like an off-color projection
Like yeah I had a lapse in recall but it was because I assumed Seanzie was trying to make a coherent argument and I filled in a blank with what I thought made it make sense to bring that up against me. I wasn’t “not feeling the game”.

I wasn't talking about you?

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

I'm assuming this is in response to my question. Explain these points in your own words, please. What makes me sus? You can reiterate Gamma's arguments, but I want to hear YOUR takes on Gamma's arguments.

My take is that I basically got mindmelded with Gamma. Her posts were basically what I wanted to say to case you and I see no point in reiterating them.

Oooorrr... your a wolf trying to borrow a case from a townie, and are scared to try to hash out your own takes on those events because everyone will see right through it. One or the other;)

Well it's one.

[KittyTacky]

I'm coming under pressure so I'll claim. I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily. I'm a Town Roleblocker (no gates) and I blocked schadd_ the previous night.

The Gamma/Seanzie interactions are a slog and while I think both of them are town I also think that they should both feel bad for making us all read that.

I don't think Gamma's 739...

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

...is a great point, which makes it weird to see KittyTacky cite it as one of the points he agrees with.

Okay that makes some sense
Who did you expect would be killed?

T3. T3 checked the boxes of 1) Reasonably active, 2) Decent posts, and 3) Absolutely nobody expressing any suspicion of them so eliminating them keeps the viable lim pool as wide as possible.

that kill idea tracks
and yeh kittytacky is kinda where my suspicions land because I also think he is trying to argue a mindmeld that doesn't make sense, I think 739 makes sense at least fmpov, but KT citing it as a mindmeld point is not sensible given that.
plus, crescent kill could be one he sees as beneficial, I was TR kittytacky yday, crescent was thinking he could be SvS w galron, there was the seanzie read that kinda supplanted that but I TR Senazie now so the next spot my thoughts fall on the crescent kill is KT
VOTE: kittytacky

I would like more clear stances from schadd rn tho

Explain why it doesn't make sense as a mindmeld. Also, I don't push perfectly salvageable teammates as scum day 1.

[KittyTacky]

Crescent was killed to frame me IMHO.

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

Why are you suspicious of the people accusing you of bussing? Do you think that all of their points are entirely invalid and made up by scum?

Phoneposting is hard

I think there is nothing about my play around Galron that is indicative of bussing and so it's scum opportunism to get me killed along with him.

[KittyTacky]

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

Great school district

VOTE: crescent

wtf is the relevance of school district to anything in this game?

Actually, now that I'm looking at Gamma's ISO... this post... is quite oddly placed. I remembered seeing it originally and being like "why is Gamma quoting a weird post from the very beginning of the game?" but then, like magic, this post ends up being Galron's breadcrumb post. Chances Gamma just happens to drudge that post up literally a few posts after Galron's claim, so that Galron can "organically" point to their breadcrumb of their role and Gamma can back off Galron.

And they want to say I'm suspicious for unvoting Galron after their claim? Nah.

Hold the phone you might be on to something here

How about no?
Seanzie’s presentation of that is incredibly disingenuous. I thought that was a post I made a while before the claim but it was actually right after.. If it was a while back I’d understand the thought process that it was setting up Galron’s claim for later, but in proper context it feels like it should be obvious that was my genuine take on what looked like something outlandish. And claiming I was aiming to back off Galron grossly misrepresents my actual movement there, which is to say it suggests there was any movement at all! I didn’t unvote Galron while I was questioning his crumbing tendency as scum, and I in fact doubled down on pushing Galron using meta!

Do not fall for Seanzie’s shallow lies.

I'm also sus of people accusing me of bussing. But you first.

I'm assuming this is in response to my question. Explain these points in your own words, please. What makes me sus? You can reiterate Gamma's arguments, but I want to hear YOUR takes on Gamma's arguments.

My take is that I basically got mindmelded with Gamma. Her posts were basically what I wanted to say to case you and I see no point in reiterating them.

Oooorrr... your a wolf trying to borrow a case from a townie, and are scared to try to hash out your own takes on those events because everyone will see right through it. One or the other;)

I had like one town game in which I had a mind meld with someone and I locked them as town and I was right, then I proceeded to overuse the mind meld tell in all of my scum games in order to pocket people and it worked.

I mindmeld as town often but I usually just phrase it as sheeping.

[KittyTacky]

Eiralox, please post a read list.

Eiralox

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Everyone else


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and it's 11:42 pm. imma stop wasting my time on tis.

Bruh if it's late then you say you do it tomorrow.
VOTE: Eiralox

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Kitty

Elaborate.

[KittyTacky]

I'm coming under pressure so I'll claim. I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily. I'm a Town Roleblocker (no gates) and I blocked schadd_ the previous night.

ok wow i missed this. why schadd_? xplain succintly. rn i find ur vibe way scummy and im gonna be honest not trusting this claim 100%. i do gingerly vote on claims tho so rn suddenly i have to have a very real case if im even gonna consider voting ur direction.

schadd_ got a bad vibe for me yesterday when I was re-reading overnight and they barely posted so I felt they were scummy. They're still kinda scummy but Seanzie is worse.

[KittyTacky]

Also post a reads list my man.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Kitty

Elaborate.

You are scum.

Wrong.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Kitty

why?

Let's just say, "you should had promise to solve tomorrow" is not reason to any suspiciouns.

It's more mafia feeds promises.

Roleblocker claim is dumb dumb, but fairly, Kitty can wait, and produce benefit if town.

No I was questioning why Eiralox would post a bare-bones "reads" "list" and make themself look like they were trolling or lazy scum. I thought the town thing would be to post an actual list but later. But now that they said they don't do readslists (which I have seen town do so that's not scummy IMHO), I'm unvoting.
UNVOTE:

[KittyTacky]

I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily.

what did you do to play shiftily?

I play PRs a bit more carefully than VT until I claim.

[KittyTacky]

Idk I was back and forth. I am kinda sorta townreading her but idk if that’s just bias

I’m really not about eliminating a possible RB’r when don’t really know where the scum team is in terms of PR stacks.

I EVEN ADDED MY PREFERRED PRONOUNS AND PEOPLE STILL THINK I AM A GIRL

[KittyTacky]

I'm coming under pressure so I'll claim. I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily. I'm a Town Roleblocker (no gates) and I blocked schadd_ the previous night.

The Gamma/Seanzie interactions are a slog and while I think both of them are town I also think that they should both feel bad for making us all read that.

I don't think Gamma's 739...

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

...is a great point, which makes it weird to see KittyTacky cite it as one of the points he agrees with.

Okay that makes some sense
Who did you expect would be killed?

T3. T3 checked the boxes of 1) Reasonably active, 2) Decent posts, and 3) Absolutely nobody expressing any suspicion of them so eliminating them keeps the viable lim pool as wide as possible.

that kill idea tracks
and yeh kittytacky is kinda where my suspicions land because I also think he is trying to argue a mindmeld that doesn't make sense, I think 739 makes sense at least fmpov, but KT citing it as a mindmeld point is not sensible given that.
plus, crescent kill could be one he sees as beneficial, I was TR kittytacky yday, crescent was thinking he could be SvS w galron, there was the seanzie read that kinda supplanted that but I TR Senazie now so the next spot my thoughts fall on the crescent kill is KT
VOTE: kittytacky

I would like more clear stances from schadd rn tho

Explain why it doesn't make sense as a mindmeld. Also, I don't push perfectly salvageable teammates as scum day 1.

Why would you claim now? You’re not at E-1.

Nothing I could have done to stop myself from being run up to E-1. I was sinking.

[KittyTacky]

I'm coming under pressure so I'll claim. I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily. I'm a Town Roleblocker (no gates) and I blocked schadd_ the previous night.

The Gamma/Seanzie interactions are a slog and while I think both of them are town I also think that they should both feel bad for making us all read that.

I don't think Gamma's 739...

Here’s the thing, Crescent dying imo suggests scum somehow still think I’m mislimmable. I fully expected to die Night 1, it’s not that rare for me these days! So Seanzie pushing against me here is a MASSIVE RED FLAG!
And like, I expect people to actually be able to use critical thinking to solve me. I specifically pushed out Galron as a litmus test for whether I had honed in on the tells another player had used to make an early call on a prior game scumbuddy of mine. If I was bussing, I don’t NEED to litmus test ANYTHING, I already KNOW Galron’s alignment!

...is a great point, which makes it weird to see KittyTacky cite it as one of the points he agrees with.

Okay that makes some sense
Who did you expect would be killed?

T3. T3 checked the boxes of 1) Reasonably active, 2) Decent posts, and 3) Absolutely nobody expressing any suspicion of them so eliminating them keeps the viable lim pool as wide as possible.

that kill idea tracks
and yeh kittytacky is kinda where my suspicions land because I also think he is trying to argue a mindmeld that doesn't make sense, I think 739 makes sense at least fmpov, but KT citing it as a mindmeld point is not sensible given that.
plus, crescent kill could be one he sees as beneficial, I was TR kittytacky yday, crescent was thinking he could be SvS w galron, there was the seanzie read that kinda supplanted that but I TR Senazie now so the next spot my thoughts fall on the crescent kill is KT
VOTE: kittytacky

I would like more clear stances from schadd rn tho

Explain why it doesn't make sense as a mindmeld. Also, I don't push perfectly salvageable teammates as scum day 1.

Why would you claim now? You’re not at E-1.

Nothing I could have done to stop myself from being run up to E-1. I was sinking.

speaking of, really feel like this trigger finger seems like scared scum

I do this as town, see "Baseball".

[KittyTacky]

Welcome!

[KittyTacky]

Crescent was killed to frame me IMHO.

Why specifically Crescent? There were many others scumreading you.

Well they could have killed another of the S/S accusers and it would have still been a frame so I don't see your point.

[KittyTacky]

I'm a PR and that's why I played shiftily.

what did you do to play shiftily?

Yeah actually, KT saying that he played shiftily also seems fake. Why does KT make super ‘hammy’ posts that are sure to draw attention to himself if he’s truly not trying to draw attention to himself.

Because it's involuntary.

[KittyTacky]

Crescent was killed to frame me IMHO.

Why specifically Crescent? There were many others scumreading you.

Well they could have killed another of the S/S accusers and it would have still been a frame so I don't see your point.

that's a lot of potential ways to frame you that would easily be coincidental if you were town. don't you think someone's first response to a night kill being a thought about their own image is scummy?

No because I care a lot about my self-image as town.

[KittyTacky]

eiralox and gamma are scummy as fuck right now, aside from that I want to know what's going on with KT today bc crescent and I both saw scum/scum kt/galron, and crescent's fuckin dead so

Also that was in response to this which I felt was an accusation.

[KittyTacky]

I think I feel good townbinning Enchant here.

Same.

[KittyTacky]

also I want literally everyone's take on galron before we even get within one vote of it happening

enchant ; )

ill be active in like 1-3 hrs this time we rollin'

I was mostly sheeping Mala with regards to Galron but I also didn't like his string of posts and repeated "Lol"s when pushed.

[KittyTacky]

Crescent was killed to frame me IMHO.

Why specifically Crescent? There were many others scumreading you.

Well they could have killed another of the S/S accusers and it would have still been a frame so I don't see your point.

What I’m asking is: Why do you think that Crescent was killed over the other people scumreading you?

I don't know.

[KittyTacky]

tacky, you have a responsibility which is stating who you plan to block in the event that we go down to one mafia left after today (if there isn't a red flip today you block whoever you want). maybe youd think of different options based on who gets executed

Seanzie.

[KittyTacky]

Or Galron. Depends on who hangs.

[KittyTacky]

also I want literally everyone's take on galron before we even get within one vote of it happening

enchant ; )

ill be active in like 1-3 hrs this time we rollin'

I was mostly sheeping Mala with regards to Galron but I also didn't like his string of posts and repeated "Lol"s when pushed.

Why Mala specifically?

Hardest push.

[KittyTacky]

I take back my schadd scumread. Schadd's walls seem very town to me.

[KittyTacky]

I bet you don't even read them, and just see big = town.

Yes I did read them.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Klick

feels weird voting a replacement but hell let's do this

every other slot has a reason to be town based on galron except this one and eiralox

But Klick barely spoke, imo Eira is scummier.

[KittyTacky]

I take back my schadd scumread. Schadd's walls seem very town to me.

I have pored over schadd’s wall and haven’t been able to form a read on it, so what about it is very town to you?

The reasoning seems town-motivated.

[KittyTacky]

I still think RC is just misguided town with a weird playstyle and not actually scum. I'd rather Eira.

[KittyTacky]

I dislike Eira's AtE.

[KittyTacky]

OK SCREW IT IMMA CLAIM

I really didn't want to do this, I think this gives scum way too much of an advantage, but right now fuck it. Ill rather claim now and die during the night than be a mis-elim and let scum slip away.

Cos im going 2 town today and I wont be here if someone decides to launch another sneak attack up my ass.

I am Town Rolecope. One of the reasons why i trust Kitty's claim, for now. Anyone who still decides to vote on me, well 2 fukcing bad.

@Haschel: I hate your entrance here btw.
@Klick suddenly ur my hero : )


Maybe its cardinal/haschel, like i mentioned way earlier? idk. not as likely but poss.


Schadd_ is vanilla and therefore I assume VT. Schadd_ can be a goon so nah im not seeing it, so this clears schadd- for me in the i nterim despite their eira-killing boner since page 1.

Do with this as you will. These fucking new votes on me and Haschel's totally crap anaylis of me, as wqell as T3's, has just put me out of the game.

I'll return later but rn i simply dont have the patience to deal with such low level of thought process and surface-level scumhunting.

I wanted to play the right game here for tpown, the long game where i find the scum for u at night, but meh. Seems like ppl are elim happy rn so im not taking that chance, im claiming, and im done till like this afternoon. Out.

OK yeah I believe this, I don't want to hang a rolecop day 1 by mistake.
UNVOTE: unvote

[KittyTacky]

I take back my schadd scumread. Schadd's walls seem very town to me.

I have pored over schadd’s wall and haven’t been able to form a read on it, so what about it is very town to you?

The reasoning seems town-motivated.

But what specific reasons?

The reasoning smelled town. I don't know how to explain it.

[KittyTacky]

Before anything happens we need to know who KT blocked.

I blocked redcardinal.

[KittyTacky]

Before anything happens we need to know who KT blocked.

If KT is town, KT not dying either suggests that scum had reasons to kill Gamma that trumps killing a claimed PR, or they didn’t think that KT would be a problem for them as KT would be unlikely to block them. I don’t think these are mutually exclusive.

OR

KT is scum.

Idk which is the most likely option. I do scumread KT independent of his claim, but I am hesitant to lim KT.

Keep in mind that mafia could be framing me.

[KittyTacky]

Like the way I see 1380 right now is that you’re saying that scum!you would have known scum!Mala wasn’t mason?

scum!me would have known that there were no mafia prs that could have made gamma show up as vanilla

But what if it’s a town PR that makes Gamma show up as vanilla? Or a thing with Mala’s role?

No such PR in normal games.

Redcardinal's solve makes sense.
VOTE: Klick

[KittyTacky]

Like the way I see 1380 right now is that you’re saying that scum!you would have known scum!Mala wasn’t mason?

scum!me would have known that there were no mafia prs that could have made gamma show up as vanilla

But what if it’s a town PR that makes Gamma show up as vanilla? Or a thing with Mala’s role?

No such PR in normal games.

Redcardinal's solve makes sense.
VOTE: Klick

1. I know there is no such PR in normal games, I was questioning why redcardinal didn’t consider a town PR to cause Gamma to flip VT.

2. VOTE: KT
This is just bad opportunism.

1. I don't understand, why would RC question such a thing when it

can't

happen?
2. Sheeping someone is opportunism, k.

Re: schadd_
Yeah I thought RC was pretty scummy during the night but now I don't think so. The Klick case made sense to me.

[KittyTacky]

1. I don't understand, why would RC question such a thing when it can't happen?
2. Sheeping someone is opportunism, k.

Re: schadd_
Yeah I thought RC was pretty scummy during the night but now I don't think so. The Klick case made sense to me.

you went from townreading her by the end of day 2, to scumreading her overnight, then landing on a case she made day 3 and circling back to townreading her. is there anything else you can point to that explains these changes

She's hard to read for me. I have been re-reading the game every night and I honestly was unsure what to make of her. Her Klick case pinged town for me tho.

[KittyTacky]

Why?

KT not offering any content today other than this and defending himself

What doesn’t sit right is KT sheeting redcardinal

What does "sheeting" mean?

Sheeping, autocorrect.

I just don't have much to say?

[KittyTacky]

First of all, I think redcardinal is a particularly unlikely player for KT!town to decide to roleblock specifically because KT had expressed suspicion of redcardinal; if KT's goal was to actually block a kill with a roleblock, he'd need to target someone who did not particularly expect to be roleblocked. Schadd is a fine guess for 'scum who would submit a kill' and probably one of my top choices if I were in KT's shoes.

And thinking about it I think redcardinal/schadd is also unlikely because schadd probably kills on that team as well

I honestly didn't think this through. Yes I am town and yes I did block RC.

This is my first time being an ungated town roleblocker so I have little idea what to do.

[KittyTacky]

Preview Edit: If you are a town roleblocker, then it's reasonable to assume that the scum have power roles of their own. In that case you block your top scumread because either 1) You stop the kill, which hurts scum, or 2) Somebody else submitted the kill but it's likely you stopped the mafia from using one of their other powers, which hurts scum.

I have my own thoughts on this, but I'd like to hear KT give a response to this post first

Yeah I don't think blocking someone scummy but who could expect to be RBed is that bad. They could be a scum PR.

[KittyTacky]

Also it's normal for Kitty.

Not offering any content or reads and just sheeping someone?

Yeah.

…link?

Any of my games.

[KittyTacky]

Re: schadd_
Yeah I thought RC was pretty scummy during the night but now I don't think so. The Klick case made sense to me.

What about it specifically made sense to you?
I understand people feeling vaguely poor about this slot due to relative inactivity/optics, but redcardinal didn't really provide any evidence for my slot being scum outside of a personal theory of the scumteam

The way it was made pinged town to me.

[KittyTacky]

Re: schadd_
Yeah I thought RC was pretty scummy during the night but now I don't think so. The Klick case made sense to me.

What about it specifically made sense to you?
I understand people feeling vaguely poor about this slot due to relative inactivity/optics, but redcardinal didn't really provide any evidence for my slot being scum outside of a personal theory of the scumteam

The way it was made pinged town to me.

Right, but what about it made sense?
Why are you on my wagon?

Because I agree with RC's comment that your slot hasn't done much of anything that is a solid reason to townread it.

[KittyTacky]

Why?

KT not offering any content today other than this and defending himself

What doesn’t sit right is KT sheeting redcardinal

What does "sheeting" mean?

Sheeping, autocorrect.

I just don't have much to say?

But there’s stuff that’s happened today.

Yes and I'm honestly unsure what to say, not to mention my limited attention span was taken up by defending myself.

[KittyTacky]

But KT is town.

i guess we don't get to like know why

Is this a claim?

[KittyTacky]

I'll act like that is a cop claim.

[KittyTacky]

oh yeah we need to have the kittytacky block plan again

I'll block... either T3 or Haschel? I'm having difficulties making concrete scumreads this game and I don't know why. I don't really think T3 is solidly town anymore, their pushing on me or half the game was oddly persistent and was most of their content.

[KittyTacky]

NVM Haschel is a PR claim. Urgh.

[KittyTacky]

I'm gonna claim as well. I am a Non-Consecutive Night Doctor. I am not going to reveal if I used my power last night or not so the scum will have to choose between either killing me or taking a shot at taking out the cop.

Is a Nonconsecutive Doc, Rolecop, Roleblocker, and Regular Cop too much for a Normal Game? To be honest I have no idea these days since this is my first game in a long time. But either KittyTacky and Seanzie are partners, in which case one false move sinks both of them, or they are telling the truth and we can start doing some PoE stuff with me removed from the pool as well.

Yeah those are some strong roles but if mafia is stacked it's possible.

[KittyTacky]

Ugh. But he could be fake? Fuck. Decisions, decisions.

[KittyTacky]

GG, did I play terribly as usual or nah?