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lol I literally just laughed at the bolded partIn post 1178, alban wrote:And yeah, I was reading Carcalilly as towniest too. It was unfathomable for me to think thatsuch a tunnelled view on me could come from a scum.-
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I wasn't referencing you LOL don't worry, I'm not scumreading you for it. I was refernecing the llama tunnel lol which is why I'm smilingIn post 1180, alban wrote:Some more shade? Maybe I should replace out. Too much hatred.-
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dude that's crappy, stay in regardless of your allignment
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I would have you check out Mastina's recent game. MMM made a heartfelt replace out that we all thought she was towniei for and we didn't lynch. They were scum.In post 1189, MarioManiac4 wrote:llama's case on alban makes no sense and alban in general feels like really stubborn town
like i see no reason at all for scum to get upset and then replace out for it? like those emotions are going to be genuine and just because they make so little sense for scum i honestly think alban is just town here
i really don't like awesome's chaining up of llama -> alban i'm not particularly feeling scum in either which is what i was saying earlier
People should be treating the replace out as NAI at the best. It's been proven that replace outs are more likely for scum than town fwiw but I don't really think that's something to base a lynch on-
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1) Sort of both, I thought that it would be good to let Llama knows how it feels, but that plan itself was spur of the moment if that makes any senseIn post 1187, awesomeusername wrote:@Mulch: Did you plan that rant or was it spur-of-the-moment?
Also, you clearly think Llama's lying about certain points. Do you think he's knowingly fudging points or accidentally getting stuff wrong?
2) I think it's some sick combination of both fueled by confirmation bias. Scum are manipulative but so are town when they are positive someone is scum, they will spin anything to fit their case.
I mean, I also think Llama is clearly lying to thereself, even Alban could see they were being manipulative and Llama laughed about that, so they should see it, but they aren't. It's almost beyond scum at this point, almost suicidal-
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Bettlejuice. Also, do something pleaseIn post 1203, Scorpious wrote:
Sigh.. et tu brute?
All that nonsense,and you circle back to voting me..
Dude, i have a life.. check the sig-
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I don't even remember them faking anything lmao remember I replaced in after day 1 and just skimmed the game.In post 1205, LlamaFluff wrote:
So then they faked thinking the Vedith claim was probably real to you? Because remember scum knew it was fake immediately. I could see scum acting like it was real if they can pull it off, but it would require a new player who could feign ignorance of the role existing + know that they should fake thinking it was real in that situation.In post 1202, Mulch wrote:Scopious has really great confidence and tone, but when you look into their posts they are sorta shit and also pretty town grabby. He's also just literally refusing to do anything and is not participating at ALL and is baseing his reads off good reasons but nothing to support. I want more.
The strongest case in that direction is how Carcalilly and Scorpious ignored each other the entire game, even then it turns into more of a "PoE if everyone else is town" thing.
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In post 1087, Scorpious wrote:In post 1085, Mulch wrote:Scorpious PLEASE respond to me
If you can be patient. I will..
Just got home from adulting.. wanna have a good double S,then I'll don the smoking jacket,and provide..In post 1121, Scorpious wrote:What tbe actual fuck, bro?In post 1203, Scorpious wrote:
Sigh.. et tu brute?
All that nonsense,and you circle back to voting me..
Dude, i have a life.. check the sigIn post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?
Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?In post 1068, Scorpious wrote:In post 1062, Mulch wrote:
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________In post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?
Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?
Scorpious I would love a reads list and also still am waiting for the answer to which questions of mine you felt I was overly preocupied to how I looked
Read lists are for scum
The first 3 are just him saying he will do stuff and he won't, the second and third is the type of useless "game solving" (ie, tons of questions, no analysis) that scum love, and a really townygrabby post respectively.-
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What about the LAMIST and the fake solving?In post 1212, LlamaFluff wrote:
If you buy that why are you calling Scorpious scum? They ignored each other.In post 1210, Mulch wrote:Carcalilly likes talking to their partners a decent amount as scum btw. Check out ThinkBig's mini normal
Because of the other scummy stuff? IDK what you want from me man. Meta is also changeable, so it's not the end all be all. But it does point towards towny points in Scorpy's direction.
Because not having time is not a scumtell. Because asking questions is not a scumtell. The only thing that can at all be called a scumtell in what you quoted is not giving reads.In post 1211, Mulch wrote:Why don't you think the quotess I just posted are damning?
Its been day two for 72 hours. Just because you are averaging a post every 20 minutes since the day started doesn't mean everyone has time to do that. When his posting rate hasn't changed much the entire game, that is a complete null tell.-
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EBWOPIn post 1213, Mulch wrote:
What about the LAMIST and the fake solving?In post 1212, LlamaFluff wrote:
If you buy that why are you calling Scorpious scum? They ignored each other.In post 1210, Mulch wrote:Carcalilly likes talking to their partners a decent amount as scum btw. Check out ThinkBig's mini normal
Because of the other scummy stuff? IDK what you want from me man. Meta is also changeable, so it's not the end all be all. But it does point towards towny points in Scorpy's direction.
Because not having time is not a scumtell. Because asking questions is not a scumtell. The only thing that can at all be called a scumtell in what you quoted is not giving reads.In post 1211, Mulch wrote:Why don't you think the quotess I just posted are damning?
Its been day two for 72 hours. Just because you are averaging a post every 20 minutes since the day started doesn't mean everyone has time to do that. When his posting rate hasn't changed much the entire game, that is a complete null tell.-
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The difference between me and you, pal, is that even if I think someone's scum I'm not going to block off and ignore all the points that point towards townyness on them and vice versa. This is what trying to read people is, not deciding someone is town or scum and conf biasing and only posting things that support your case.
I think Scorpy has a good chance to be scum, and I think that the fact they didn't interact is a towny point. I'm bringing it up because there is no reason for me to keep it hidden, dude...-
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This statement by you
perfectly encapsulates all of my frustration with you this gameIn post 1215, LlamaFluff wrote:I just am wondering why even bring that up when it conflicts with your vote.-
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In post 1221, awesomeusername wrote:@Mulch 1196: Maybe I shouldn't be reading into it quite this much, but alban in particular really replaces out a lot as town. But if you think it's NAI, why'd you move your vote?
Cause Scorpious is scummier
@Mulch 1198: Hrmm, I could kind of tell it was at least partially premeditated. That's why I'm not town reading the rage. It's interesting that you think Llama's intentionally making stuff up but are still town reading him. :/ Like I guess making blanket assumptions based on a "tell" is bad but I'm not sure how you can ever get inside someone's head that deeply.
Also, just in general, I'm having a really hard time getting inside your head, thought I'd let you know. I think at least a part of it is experience gap. Can you explain why, say, Scorpious not interacting with Carca indicates town while alban's emotions are NAI? They both just seem like meta to me - I don't see a difference.
It's not that every person who does this is scum, etc, or town. Besides the fact he would have to be suicidal to this as scum right now, it's that this particular push by Llama is SO manipulative and so obviously scummy and iditotic that it shows they are so dedicated to the idea that I am scum that they will do whatever it takes in their brain to rationalize this idea to them. The confirmation bias is real, and it's a real thing. Even though it's completely wrong, the sheer force and belief they have in it that they would be willing to go to such wrong lengths and try and spin EVERYTHING to fit their one conclusion that they already decided shows that they beleve in what they are saying. Scum when making cases would be more inclined to make it at least seem coherent, reason based, and would be inclined to especially not lie which looks REALLY bad on them. and not make such a misleading and wrong case where they will automatically be lynched tmrw when I am dead. There's WIFOM involved in this but yeah.
Carca interacts with her partners so the fact there is little interaction is a small bonus to Albus, but the replace out is thoroughly NAI because it can easily come from scum or town.
@Mulch 1201: The gut scumread might honestly just be intimidation, combined with the fact that he's pretty manipulative. Actually, I'm kinda coming around to him. His reads are evolving, which is good to see.
Also, I don't think Scorpious is scum. What's beetlejuice?
How are his reads evolving........... jesus christ
Beetlejuice is when you mention someone and they appear lol
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The winds changed direction after I left, and so did whymafia's tune.
I noticed that, too.
@Mulch: How certain are you on your read on WhyMafia right now?
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Alban I liked your wall in general but I want you to explan this more:
You also obviously don't know how annoying it is to be pushed by a tunnel full of shit and manipulation of what you said, just becuse Llama decided before the day began that I was scum and their way of "scumhunting" is to decide I'm scum and then fit things to fit their twisted mindest.In post 1222, alban wrote:Your reasons in 1162 for voting for me:
1. Scum are more likely to maintain their vote on 1 person throughout. Since Alban had his vote on Vedith throughout, he is likely to be scum.
2. Scum are more likely to have shallow reads. Since Alban has fakeable shallow reads, he is likely to be scum.
3. Alban doesn't have satisfactory reasons for his play on D1.
These show that you have not grasped the game completely. I am not trying to be patronising. I believe these are pretty trivial reasons and are nai.
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The thing is WhyMafia I agree that the semi replace out was sort of manipulative, but I also think he has a valid point, or at least one that could be naturally formed, that you sort of shifted the townread when everyone was townreading him for his replace out, when you shoulden't have in the first place. If a slot is scum it's scum etc. ALso, his entrance sort of felt like to me "I can't resist staying in just so we can lynch that scumfuck WhyMafia".-
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1) I'm not unvoting you until you respond to EVERYTHING that I've asked you to that you refuse to give reasons forIn post 1229, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Alban
I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?
The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.
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@Mulch what do you think of this post?In post 1229, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Alban
I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?
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@ScorpiousIn post 838, Mulch wrote:
This post in particular from Scorpious to rationalize the vote on vedith is really badIn post 587, Scorpious wrote:In post 559, Vedith wrote:How about Scorpios.
We can do a day where I pick the lynch, then you get to pick the lynch the next day?
You fake claim and have the gall to start lining up lynches?
VOTE: VedithIn post 899, Mulch wrote:In post 888, WhyMafia wrote:
It does ..In post 886, Scorpious wrote:In post 851, Mulch wrote:I'd also loosely followed the game before I replaced IO- again, one of the reasons I came in was beacuse I knew IO was obvious town and I wasn't in the mood for a scum game atm lol
This looks so fake..but by PoE I town read Mulch
Keep trying, and make a better case!
explainIn post 941, Mulch wrote:
Disgusting. You've pointed out two posts of mine out of 30 that I've made, and the two posts are the ones that can be construyed as typically scummy that actually aren't scummy, like self meta and pointing out that IO was obvious town. Comment on the rest of my posts, or make some advanacement of the game. This is the second time you've done it and it's starting to fucking annoy meIn post 940, Scorpious wrote:In post 918, Mulch wrote:I've been trying as of late to not vote as much in games, mostly because it's actually developed as a scumtell that I don't change votes when I am scum and I want to eliminate that weakness in my game, and also because it makes townies for some reason scumread me for switching votes? even though it should be the opposites lmao and not just for me either
Some juicy self-meta here... mmm, deliciousIn post 942, Mulch wrote:
Respond to this shit voteIn post 587, Scorpious wrote:In post 559, Vedith wrote:How about Scorpios.
We can do a day where I pick the lynch, then you get to pick the lynch the next day?
You fake claim and have the gall to start lining up lynches?
VOTE: VedithIn post 949, Mulch wrote:
Which ones?In post 946, Scorpious wrote:In post 944, Mulch wrote:Scorpious, give me your read on me right now.
Leaning scum. Your posts seem calculated and well thought upon. Not in content,but in how they will be perceived.In post 1062, Mulch wrote:
Scorpious I would love a reads list and also still am waiting for the answer to which questions of mine you felt I was overly preocupied to how I lookedIn post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?
Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?In post 1077, Mulch wrote:
How Mario, and you need to give me the posts you don't like about me. And why don't you scumread Awesome, and why do you townread Llama?In post 1076, Scorpious wrote:Right now its a toss up between you,Alban and mm4In post 1086, Mulch wrote:Llama explain your Alban townread, Scorpious explain your awesome townread
In post 1207, Mulch wrote:In post 1087, Scorpious wrote:In post 1085, Mulch wrote:Scorpious PLEASE respond to me
If you can be patient. I will..
Just got home from adulting.. wanna have a good double S,then I'll don the smoking jacket,and provide..In post 1121, Scorpious wrote:What tbe actual fuck, bro?In post 1203, Scorpious wrote:
Sigh.. et tu brute?
All that nonsense,and you circle back to voting me..
Dude, i have a life.. check the sigIn post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?
Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?In post 1068, Scorpious wrote:In post 1062, Mulch wrote:
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________In post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?
Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?
Scorpious I would love a reads list and also still am waiting for the answer to which questions of mine you felt I was overly preocupied to how I looked
Read lists are for scum
The first 3 are just him saying he will do stuff and he won't, the second and third is the type of useless "game solving" (ie, tons of questions, no analysis) that scum love, and a really townygrabby post respectively.-
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I'm not unvoting unless he responds, and if he responds I may or may not unvote depending on his response. Because, unlike you, I might change my read if I see something I like or don't like, and I'm going to try and find the stuff for BOTH sides of the arguement, so I can ba accurate, instead of deciding ooh he is scum! and then trying to fit a case around the narrative.In post 1252, LlamaFluff wrote:Well also replacing out tactically is blatantly against site rules and a bannable offense. Both replace outs read far more "rage quit" at face value though.
@Mulch - You are saying you read Scorp as scum, but at the same time are implying that you will unvote if he responds to the million little posts you made. Which is it?-
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In post 1257, LlamaFluff wrote:
So you are tunneling on him until he responds?In post 1254, Mulch wrote:I'm not unvoting unless he responds, and if he responds I may or may not unvote depending on his response.
Is this real life-
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Bro every time you post I get a wave of anger and want to vote you, because the more you post the more my common sense goes away and the more I just want you out of the game.
Your scum's greatest asset if you are town, and if we lynch wrong today I'm 100% sure your not the nightkill, or your scum. Those are the 2 options-
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...which is wrongIn post 1271, LlamaFluff wrote:
I would LOVE it if scum NKed you if you are town...In post 1270, Mulch wrote:How about we lynch you, and then I am nightkilled because nobody else is dumb enough to scumread me, and then problem solved?it would give town a chance to be productive instead of you essentially screaming half of the game into contentless posting as they try to catch up. Which is exactly why (apart from most people having you null town to null scum) it would never happen. That and other things which mean you should really stop posting angry if town. If you are scum please keep doing it because it could trap you later.
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Too bad it's true. Why would I ever be nightkilled when Llama is dead set on tunneling me for the entire game? No matter WHAT llama's allignment is I'm basically their target whether it's actual scum or their own little lackey doing it for them.In post 1274, Scorpious wrote:
This is something scum would say 1000000000%In post 1273, Mulch wrote:As long as ur alive I'm 100% not being nightkilled lmao
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WTF lolIn post 1276, Scorpious wrote:You are borderline spamming the game, yet your votes are such trash.
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No, you can answer 6 questions I give youIn post 1276, Scorpious wrote:New Challenge: You have 200 words to summarize your questions of me. You might have to pick and choose now. If you exceed the 200 word barrier, I reserve the right to ignore it..
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In post 1202, Mulch wrote:Scopious has really great confidence and tone, but when you look into their posts they are sorta shit and also pretty town grabby. He's also just literally refusing to do anything and is not participating at ALL and is baseing his reads off good reasons but nothing to support. I want more.-
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Excellent questions.In post 1287, LlamaFluff wrote:Why are the "town grabby" posts not just him just doing town things? Why are these two things different.
How does one "base reads on good reasons" yet have "nothing to support"?
In mafia, scum want to appear towny. Real townies real solve; ie, they look at stuff, think what is scum, etc. For scum, who have the disadvantage of knowing who is town, it can be extremely hard to fake acting like they are solving like townies. After all, that's the main goal for scum. To appear like town.
Scum might do stuff that makes them "appear" towny- something as simple as "gamesolving", but it isn't ACTUALLY trying to solve the game and the focus is more on APPEARING town. Scorpi's posts look like town cred grabbing instead of natural being town.
For the second question, his read on me for caring how much I look is basically the best reason to scumread someone- objectively- but it's wrong and more damning he has no posts to support it. Hence; good reasons, no support.
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Besides the fact that I'm actually slight townreading you- not pushing you-
That's not a bad point about caring about self preservation. your just gonna have to trust me that I'm a player that dosen't like getting lynched as town lol and get very upset when people scumread me. I honestly usually have issues with scum pocketing me because i naturally assume all pushing me are scum, when a decent % of the time they are town.
And I mean I also have a drastically higher post count than anyone else.
Also a little tip- usually scum are much more subtle about their town grabbing than I would theoretically be.
Which brings me to Scoprious...
1048 and 1068 in particular are examples of those.
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"scum benefit from reads lists - im not making one"
Hidden meaning: I'm not scum. It's basically subtly shouting that he is town.
And I'm not fucking scumreading you for having everything ass backwards lmao.
Io/carca had ONE bad post, the rest is NAI, and they had almost an equally good post as well. You shoulden't read into spew anyway.-
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They can say it in a natural way, which I can't really figure out cause I like readslist, but maybe something like "I don't really think readslist do that much, so I prefer to it ____ way. Instead of saying so obviiously "THEY ARE FOR SCUM'= You are NOT scumIn post 1296, LlamaFluff wrote:
How does town say that then if they think "scum benefit from reads lists"In post 1295, Mulch wrote:"scum benefit from reads lists - im not making one
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I understand dude it has a hidden meaning whether you say it does or not. But it's not like super super super damning and I understand that it could be said from a town PoV. I just don't know why you emphasized "reads list are for SCUM", like in such a manner that suggested you were NOT scumIn post 1297, Scorpious wrote:In post 1295, Mulch wrote:"scum benefit from reads lists - im not making one"
Hidden meaning: I'm not scum. It's basically subtly shouting that he is town.
There is no hidden meaning to anything I say. I don't like reads lists. I think they can be picked apart by good scum. And in my experience in mafia (about 10 games here and about 10 on another non-mafia site) they are often postedbyscum as an easy form of content.
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You don't understand...
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Right and wrong respectivelyIn post 1305, alban wrote:Mulch is a bad lynch. Why mafia should be our lynch fur the day-
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