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What does this mean? It's a confusing post that seems like it wants to seem useful but it is actually huge piles of nonsense. Scumpoints to Raskol for this one.In post 11, Raskolnikov wrote:-
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This is the most nonsense vote I've ever seen. Why Maki? And why are you happy about it?
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Maybe you're bullying Maki because you're the real scum!In post 19, Raskolnikov wrote:maybe you're a miller because you're scum :thinkyface:-
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This is very suspicious rolefishing very early in the game. We're all clowns, of course it doesn't take too much imagination that someone would be a miller for clowning around! Huge scumpoints to this.In post 22, StefanB wrote:Nameclaim? Normally there is a reason why someone is a miller, that is hinted in the role-PM.-
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Another huge rolefishing for Maki's role, even after she claimed Miller I doubt that is the full extent of her role, because Mathdino doesn't create a simple miller role for no reason. Not a good look for StefanB.In post 30, StefanB wrote:Hm, somethink is fishy about that.
Why is Krusty a miller?
Why does Maki not know the name of her own role? This is clearly readable in my PM.-
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This reaction feels so ecchi!
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I'm glad that someone else sees the scummy things I'm seeing from StefanB. Town points for this man.In post 53, Wh4t wrote:VOTE: StefanB
Serious vote. I dislike his reaction to the miller claim, he felt forced and slightly LAMIST IMO.
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This is very bad, especially when I've just given townpoints to Wh4t. The vote here is for no reasons especially when there are good real reasons to vote real people at this point in the game. It is no longer RVS. So, big scumpoints to Archwing for still pretending that it is.
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A good look for Gamma Emerald.
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Why did you change your vote to Cedrick for no reason? Your earlier townpoints have been deducted.In post 64, Wh4t wrote:
Hi Stefan, I may be misinterpreting your playstyle as LAMIST (Not lame). I'm happy to watch you a bit longer.In post 58, StefanB wrote:Wh4t, GE: Interesting that LAME (which I don't disagree with I am not funny) is the point you are stresing.
And you don't think that the question why Maki is a miller could give us some hint about the scumteam?
I don't understand what the point of asking a player "why they received their role" is? If scum or town I don't see how a response would be AI for you. How would it hint about a scumteam?
It's pretty obvious why a miller would be in the mix and I think it would be anti-town to delve further into that discussion.
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This is huge nonsense. Feels like fluff trying to seem useful but actually a huge bunch of nonsense. Massive scumpoints to Archwing.In post 70, Archwing wrote:
negative, commander.In post 63, Wh4t wrote:Hi Archwing, good to see you again. Do you have any initial impressions from the other players?
even if I did, I don't really trust my day 1 reads, let alone from RVS. I'm more of a late-game player tbh.
all I know is that brassherald might be a PL, apparently he can be awkward af, so be wary i suppose?
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This is a useless question with a useless story. It's like asking the waitress at the pizza place if she likes pizza. "Last time I had pizza it was a shit show because a kid ran over and crashed into my pizza and got pizza all over him!". As we can see in this example, nobody, including the waitress, cares for this small talk and that dumb story.In post 72, Archwing wrote:maki how do you feel about rolling miller this game? have you ever played as miller before?
last game i was in with a miller, it was a shitshow cause some asshat pushed "always lynch claimed millers d1"
Big big scumpoints.
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This is very very selective considering that StefanB did even more scummy rolefishing earlier on but you didn't even say a word about him. I'm adding more scumpoints to your debt.In post 75, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: Beefster
I think you may be rolefishing while trying to make it look like it's not serious.
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It's very hard to believe that you believe what you're saying. How is asking if the famous McDonald mascot is in the game even remotely close or severe as directly rolefishing for a player's powers in the game and their flavour?In post 77, Raskolnikov wrote:I expect this will confuse people so I'll pre-emptively clarify
asking about something straight up like people are with maki is okay (or well probably nai imo) because it's brave and you get attention, but approaching it like semi serious is a little concerning to me
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I am never letting anybody policy lynch you <3In post 84, Maki Harukawa wrote:
eh it's fine I expect to be policy lynched at some point because a lot of people say "Millers can't live to end game" so w/eIn post 72, Archwing wrote:maki how do you feel about rolling miller this game? have you ever played as miller before?
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Wh'/?In post 86, Raskolnikov wrote:btw never lynch wh4t this game.
Is it because you have knowledge that he is town because you are scum? It really seems like it. I am townreading Wh4t, but I cannot see anybody ever being so confident about a townread on Page 4, unless they are scum and know it for a fact.
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Becauses you are scum trying to look useful by trying to tunnel a player for nonsensical reasons!In post 87, Raskolnikov wrote:wait a second, why is no one weighing in on beefster-
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I love your jokes by the way. I don't think scum does it, so massive townpoints to you.In post 88, Cedrick wrote:
How do you kill a circus clown?In post 85, Wh4t wrote:Gamma, skimming over your past games I see that you get scum read quite frequently as town. Why do you think that is?
Pedit Cedrick, you've proved 1 of your posts are non-fluff and I'm not even entirely convinced that set-up spec should qualify as something game-progressing, but I'll be generous. Naming a clown absolutely does not count as AI content. Apologies if you feel I've misrepped you. I'm feeling your response is genuine.
Go for the juggler.
I never said it had to be AI. But it wasn’t fluff. My statement still holds true. Your expectation of posts in rvs is unrealistic. Not every player is going through serious post every time they post. I certainly am not. Now I do have to limit my more useless posts due to the rules, there is still going to be posts I make that aren’t always going to be game advancing as will others and you know what? That’s ok.
Even now, there isn’t much to go off of. I’d say the scummiest person so far is you for your unrealistic expectation but having a different opinion isn’t AI. I don’t really see much to comment on atm but I haven’t been reading very intently. I’m in an altered mental state atm so I’m not prepared to do in-depth shit right now.
P.edit - lol he hasn’t earned that designation yet. He’s in a “wouldn’t mind a lynch” list right now.-
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I'd say, "are you clowning with us?"
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Even more massive townpoints to Cedrick for coming to the same conclusions as I did on Arch, he is really scummy.In post 104, Cedrick wrote:
What do you call a woman falling in love with a carnie? Juggle FeverIn post 98, Archwing wrote:Chronological progression:
Someone claims Miller
People talk about it
Someone refs wiki which states optimal play
Beefster says claiming Miller was bad
And now there is nothing worth weighing in on?
I said I was gonna lie low but fuck sakes.
Not that it matters, I don’t recal anyone saying it’s optimal play to do that.
What’s wrong with two people having a different opinion? Beefster not sharing somebody else’s opinion doesn’t mean they are scummy for it.
I’m more interested in you saying you were going to intentionally lay low. My opinion of you of a player has dropped because it’s never acceptable to lay low. It’s actually pretty scummy.
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Unfortunately, I don't get this joke at all. What's a carnie? Please explain.In post 104, Cedrick wrote:What do you call a woman falling in love with a carnie? Juggle Fever-
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Townpoints to you for this good vote.In post 117, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Don't put words in my mouth.In post 114, Archwing wrote:hey koki. you claimed not town? wanna talk about it?
VOTE: Arch-
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Nonsense random wagon on a random person to deflect from the Very Good wagon on him.
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This is pretty good analysis, townpoints for you.In post 143, Wh4t wrote:
I still like my town reads. I'll add Kokichi to the pile too. I was tempted to add Arch, but I'm more hesitant now.In post 140, Raskolnikov wrote:I figured out why this game feels a little weird. Usually there's both scumhunting and townhunting/cohesion, but here it's like all scumhunting.
What do you make of Archwing's behaviour on this page?
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I think you are town!In post 153, Kokichi Oma wrote:I think we lynch Arch-
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What's jungle fever?In post 186, Cedrick wrote:
Whenever the cashier at the grocery store asks my dad if he would like the milk in a bag he replies, 'No, just leave it in the carton!'In post 179, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't get this joke at all. What's a carnie? Please explain.In post 104, Cedrick wrote:What do you call a woman falling in love with a carnie? Juggle Fever
Carnie is a carnival worker. A juggler would be somebody who may work at a carnival
Juggle fever is a play on jungle fever.
Man, I feel dumb asking to explain a joke.-
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Hi!In post 187, Wh4t wrote:Hi Kiana. Efficient, I like it. I can agree with your Arch and StefanB reads. The Rask read seems a little biased from the start in regards to his opening RVS vote on Maki; your deduction based on that, I initially thought was in jest, however you seem to have built on it looking for reasons for scum Rask more so than town Rask. I do agree that his hard town read of me was suspicious but in the context of his ISO I still lean town overall. Perhaps you're more familiar with him?
I moved my vote to Cedrick to get a reaction and I'm growing more convinced that he is heavily confirmation biased town. So I can agree with that read too.
I find it odd that you have not weighed in on the content from Maki and Brass so far.
I'm happy to vote Arch later in the day if nothing changes but I'm remiss to vote the only person familiar with me right now.
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I've never played with Raskol before, so we're starting on equal ground here.
Maki and Brass appears to not have made any content that warrants alignment-indicative townpoints. This is reflected in my list above.
Raskol appears to be scummy and has obtained many scumpoints. The specific posts in question have been flagged above, and the number of scumpoints is also reflected in the above list.
Considering that I read the game from start to finish, I give extra credit to players who obtain the same conclusions that I do, while I'm reading the thread. It proves that they are working from a town mindset, with good initiative, and without my intervention.-
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Do you not find suspicious the fact that Raskol scumreads Beefster for asking about Ronald Mcdonald but turns a blind eye to Stefan (coincidentally, a scumread of mine too) who blatantly rolefishes for both flavour and role?
It's like yelling at the person who just farted in the room but completely ignoring that hobo taking a poop on the floor.-
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In post 193, BuJaber wrote:In post 134, Archwing wrote:i got a n0 flavor cop on him. he's pennywise.
I really think arch is jester here. He's just too scummy.
W4 seemed too tryhard to be scum at first but some of his pushes seem overly aggressive and based on his subjective interpretation. Scumlean.
Brass reads town to me; not sure where people are getting scum vibes from.
Kiana made a pretty good intro to the game. I really hope I don't have to read 20 posts every time she wants to say something but if she's going to continue to deliver quality content it's worth it.
Koki is policy lynch material. You really have a talent for walking on the fence of scummy/NAI.
Raska going off on beef for his Ronald McDonald comment seems strange. You made a post that makes anyone who doesn't live in a jungle think about mcdonald's.. why is it scummy for him to mention it? So what if you are ronald? How would that tell us your role/alignment?
VOTE: Raska [/v]
Miller claim probably just means miller. Likely town but anyway millers don't survive till end game. We vig or lynch before lylo. Considering mod gave out fakeclaims I don't think anybody will be counterclaimed. That defeats the purpose.
Rest are null I think.
Pedit - oh forgot stefan: didn't like his opening post RVS means we ignore most of the post but focus on the kittle things. If it was a joke he's making about me always being scum why would he feel the need to state that I was scum in one game he was also in? A joke is a joke doesn't need to be backed by evidence. If he is serious he's just wrong and would imply his RVS post isn't and RVS post which is just scummy too.
Also not sure what he's expecting people to say about miller. Making a big deal out of nothing if you ask me.
Very good posts from these two. Very good reads and reasonings provided for each. Townpoints for both.In post 197, brassherald wrote:
I'm going to try and explain this one without sounding too terrible but Jungle Fever is basically what they used to say about the white person in an interracial couple.In post 188, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
What's jungle fever?In post 186, Cedrick wrote:
Whenever the cashier at the grocery store asks my dad if he would like the milk in a bag he replies, 'No, just leave it in the carton!'In post 179, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't get this joke at all. What's a carnie? Please explain.In post 104, Cedrick wrote:What do you call a woman falling in love with a carnie? Juggle Fever
Carnie is a carnival worker. A juggler would be somebody who may work at a carnival
Juggle fever is a play on jungle fever.
Man, I feel dumb asking to explain a joke.
Kiana is probably town, by the way.
Something is up with Arch, and it's not just the fact that he's been pushing to policy lynch me before I even did anything.
Raska is off too, I'm kind of confused as to why you made a post to look like Ronald McDonald, then got upset when someone was asking about you softing Ronald McDonald. Please explain why you made the original post.
I withdraw my labelling of Wh4t as Mr. Overachiever, maybe just Mr Achiever now.
BuJaber's first post is kind of okay.
Cedrick is making bad jokes and I love it, but also seems to be working towards gamesolving.
Still not feeling the Gamma town, though. Keeping my vote there.
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Oh... I see. Thanks for explaining it. I learned a new word today.In post 197, brassherald wrote: I'm going to try and explain this one without sounding too terrible but Jungle Fever is basically what they used to say about the white person in an interracial couple.-
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Hi, I am back.
In post 286, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: kiana
Was going to wait for response first but I have mixed feelings on arch wagon.
Feels like overexaggerating reads and really trying to get hard judgments where it doesn't feel realistic. There is some complexity to her credit but I'm not feeling it as genuine.Wow, my scumread is voting me. Congratulations, your scumpoints have been doubled. It proves that I'm right on the mark.
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Townpoints for this good vote, butIn post 215, StefanB wrote:Ras Has 33 post, content:
at last for the first 12 votes, am I missing something?i think it's best to ignore the claim for now, vote was rvs
That is somethink else that I found interesting, how much do people activly townhunt in this game on the first 24 hours, for me that is the moment when my reads are very smal.I figured out why this game feels a little weird. Usually there's both scumhunting and townhunting/cohesion, but here it's like all scumhunting.
Okay there are some reads, but for this many posts there is very little substance.
VOTE: Raskolnikov
Can be that I am chancing my mind when I am true with every player.
It was removed within two posts. Nothing could have possibly happened within these two posts, so not only the townpoints have been rescinded, but there is also a penalty. The vote almost feels like a scam to earn townpoints but actually wanting to vote correct scum Raskol. So, in total this gained some scumpoints.In post 217, StefanB wrote:ActuallyUnvote:
I don't know how I feel about Beefster pushing it and Archwing following.-
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How is Cedric an anime name? It's a very common western name, please do not give excuses as to why you may not want to form a read on the towniest player on my list. Kiana isn't a common name but it isn't necessarily an anime/Japanese name either. I mean, in my case it is, but it's the same situation as Naomi, which happens to be a common African American name as well.In post 246, StefanB wrote: Cedric and Kiana (will have to be very careful not to confusse all the players with Anime-names, sorry If I do): Both are still on my list for closer inspection, I am not sure what to make of them.
I find it difficult to believe you cannot come to a conclusion to, in my perspective, the exact two towniest people in the game. Scumpoints.-
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Why. Wh'/. Don't get the joke? Loser.In post 248, Raskolnikov wrote:
I mean, you could like, ask about the read but okay MASSIVE scumpoints.In post 174, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
Wh'/?In post 86, Raskolnikov wrote:btw never lynch wh4t this game.
Is it because you have knowledge that he is town because you are scum? It really seems like it. I am townreading Wh4t, but I cannot see anybody ever being so confident about a townread on Page 4, unless they are scum and know it for a fact.
Big scumpoints.
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Trying to townread me now because he knows I am town and correctly caught him. He cannot possibly force a lynch on me without himself getting exposed pretty badly. Add on to the fact that literally nobody, except him, is voting me, puts him in a very bad spot. Even more scumpoints.In post 249, Raskolnikov wrote:
Okay, so this is actually showing some level of thinking. Stefan's reaction made more sense in the moment and he was very upfront. Beefster asked in joking way wrt me and like put bullshit shade on maki for being miller.In post 191, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Do you not find suspicious the fact that Raskol scumreads Beefster for asking about Ronald Mcdonald but turns a blind eye to Stefan (coincidentally, a scumread of mine too) who blatantly rolefishes for both flavour and role?-
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What is the reason for a potential mafia to learn a townie's role? Hmm, I wonder. Maybe so that it will give you information and know whether Maki is a threat to shoot tonight or not.In post 251, StefanB wrote:And the rolefishing:
I didn't rolefish!!!!!!!!
I asked if the claim was real or a joke. (We were in RVS and I don't know the players involved)
I asked for a name with the claim and if there was a reason why this person is a miller.
I have only very old meta on millers. My main meta is unfortunatly tigereaten. And if I remember correctly as a miller I was grilled more than once about the last point. (It was a soccer-Upick and I chose a German player, but the mods were fans of England)
I thought those question as standard. I see now that my plan is outdated in that fashion.
Then I asked why Maki did not remember the name of her role.
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Scumpoints to you for this bad vote. Why would I ask questions to my scumreads if I know they're already scum? I don't see a need. Why are you protecting Raskol anyhow. That's bonus scumpoints for you. You're taken off the townreads list.In post 263, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You know what that's probably why I don't like it: it's making reads rather than asking questions and legitimately sorting.In post 248, Raskolnikov wrote:
I mean, you could like, ask about the read but okay MASSIVE scumpoints.In post 174, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
Wh'/?In post 86, Raskolnikov wrote:btw never lynch wh4t this game.
Is it because you have knowledge that he is town because you are scum? It really seems like it. I am townreading Wh4t, but I cannot see anybody ever being so confident about a townread on Page 4, unless they are scum and know it for a fact.
Big scumpoints.
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The scumpoints have been rescinded for now, but you get a small penalty for semi-protecting Raskol.In post 264, Gamma Emerald wrote:
or maybe not?In post 249, Raskolnikov wrote:
Okay, so this is actually showing some level of thinking. Stefan's reaction made more sense in the moment and he was very upfront. Beefster asked in joking way wrt me and like put bullshit shade on maki for being miller.In post 191, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Do you not find suspicious the fact that Raskol scumreads Beefster for asking about Ronald Mcdonald but turns a blind eye to Stefan (coincidentally, a scumread of mine too) who blatantly rolefishes for both flavour and role?
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Townpoints to brassherald for this good vote.In post 265, brassherald wrote:Arch has 34 posts, I see a few "reaction tests" and no scum hunting.
VOTE: Arch-
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I would usually give townpoints for this good vote, but there is a maximum cap on these. Since Wh4t already hit the cap, it can't go higher from this small gesture. But, a pat on the back for you.
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Pat on the back rescinded for this vote. Why are you scumreading Bujaber? He has townpoints. I don't agree that following my reads is bad, when the fact is that my reads are good. This optimal to play to wincon.In post 343, Wh4t wrote:
BuJaber bothers me because he seemed to be pandering to Kiana on his entrance e.g. his read on Stefan. It also bothered me that he had me as his only scum lean, yet he voted for Rask (again following Kiana's lead) for something he termed strange. When I pushed him to explain his scum read on me, he talked to me from the perspective he knew I was town. I mean, telling someone that their playstyle is "aggressive" and that it's not the best way to get responses from others is not a valid reason to scumread someone even if accurate. It felt like he was trying quite unnaturally to be reasonable to both me and those reading his posts (200,201). I find both his intent and approach suspect towards me.In post 340, Archwing wrote:town to scum,
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{cedrick, maki}
{wh4t, gamma, brass, kaito, beef} ****
{kiana, rask}
* = null line. above it are slight townleans, nothing more.
In regards to Arch, he called him too scummy and reasoned that he must but a jester; however when Gamma pointed out that Jesters do not exist in this set-up, he said thanks but neglected to readjust his read of you.
In summary, so far it's all trying to look good and busy without actually doing anything I'd consder towny.
In fact I'm more confident in my BuJaber read than I am of my read on you.
VOTE: BuJaber
Arch what are your thoughts on BuJaber? He looks like a big town read to you.-
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Good catch. Archwing calls me "probtown" but then in that nonsensical reads list he puts me as scum. Obviously, I've caught Archwing too, so he has no choice but to scumread me. Townpoints to Kokichi, massive scumpoints to Archwing.In post 347, Kokichi Oma wrote:
...??What?In post 207, Archwing wrote:don't really like kiana's intro, but probtown-
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What do you know about my meta? The only completed game we have involved you self-hammering my slot and throwing the game for town.In post 379, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The system isn't horrible but Kiana didn't seem to ask much questions, and it's kinda against meta for her to do that methodIn post 376, Beefster wrote:I recall quite a few criticisms on Kiana's "point system" scumhunting. It's not AI. I've done it both as town and as scum. Her methods might be strange, but they're not scummy. Slight town lean here for making good points on 191 and 192-
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You'll be dead before you hit the max, don't worry about it.In post 410, Raskolnikov wrote:
What's the maximum number of scumpoints?In post 396, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Congratulations, your scumpoints have been doubled. It proves that I'm right on the mark.-
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I might have missed it. Let me take a look.In post 413, Wh4t wrote:VOTE: Kiana Kaslana
Why are you not rescinding BuJaber's townpoints for his scum read on me Princess?
I think I've had enough of the false bravado.-
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Why is Kiana an okay lynch?In post 415, Kokichi Oma wrote:Kiana is an okay lynch I guess, but I want Arch flipped.
I'm voting Arch with you, perhaps even before you, do you think we're bussing?-
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Only scum are scumreading me dearie~In post 422, Maki Harukawa wrote:Can't tell if I can't see why Kiana is scum out of bias or I really can't see it.
Can someone explain to me why she's scum danke.-
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Mate, I really do not care if my scumreads vote on me. Weird that you have to make an exaggerated theatric to publically call for your buddy to vote me, that suggests scum do not have daytalk. That makes the game easier for us, I guess.
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Seen what? Obviously I don't agree with your pointing out of my posts but I believe I was asking you an entirely different question. Do you think we are bussing?In post 435, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Not before me, I don't believe. And I pointed out some of your posts earlier. If you really townread me as much as you say you do, shouldn't you have seen them before?In post 419, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
Why is Kiana an okay lynch?In post 415, Kokichi Oma wrote:Kiana is an okay lynch I guess, but I want Arch flipped.
I'm voting Arch with you, perhaps even before you, do you think we're bussing?-
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I'm not your buddy, mate.In post 438, Raskolnikov wrote:
I'm not your mate, buddy.In post 436, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Mate, I really do not care if my scumreads vote on me. Weird that you have to make an exaggerated theatric to publically call for your buddy to vote me, that suggests scum do not have daytalk. That makes the game easier for us, I guess.
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This is really bad. But, I can't give him scumpoints for the vote, because Wh4T you started a precedent by voting-to-pressure; that is, your vote on me. Honestly I view this back-and-forth as town versus town, and it's derailing from actual focus on the thread. Now, expanding our horizons is great (actually, it's not, but people here seem to want to be progressive or something), but let's not let us get distracted from the real scum in the game.In post 441, BuJaber wrote:
I might be a sucker for tone. But this seems genuine and arch's latest posts have been a lot better than his initial posts.In post 281, Archwing wrote:
i got nk'd that game, by BuJaber, 'cause i had tunneled him previous to Moz and had him SR'd, and so he killed me out of WIFOM.In post 279, StefanB wrote:Archwing: Accepted.
Want to state somethink re last game. Me towards Mulch- you towards Moz, no big difference.
You were nightkilled and I think I looked better because how the next 2 days went.
@Mod: lol
But i'm not referencing that game for my town deathtunnel (oops), i referenced it with regards to misrepresentation, cause if you recall I had that blip with the quoting thing where I removed some the quote unintentionally, allegedly altering the meaning of it.
that's the shit i'm trying to correct in my life
This is the correct interpretation of what happened. Anyone disagreeing is twisting facts or misunderatanding.In post 296, Maki Harukawa wrote:Let me settle this for anyone who doesn't get it:
Kokichi (the character) is from a video game who is known for lying and Kokichi (the player) follows that gimmick a lot so his first post was very clearly a lie or him wanting us to think it etc so it was NAI and didn't mean anything.
Arch questioned him on it and Kokichi said "Don't put words in my mouth" when Arch didn't do that at all Arch just called him out on the exact statement Kokichi made so he's lying and it's stupidly annoying
seeing how he turned it serious he can be scummy
Pedit: Sup?
This is a rediculous case. Why should I vote you when I think Rask is scummier and I still want to sort you?In post 343, Wh4t wrote:
BuJaber bothers me because he seemed to be pandering to Kiana on his entrance e.g. his read on Stefan. It also bothered me that he had me as his only scum lean, yet he voted for Rask (again following Kiana's lead) for something he termed strange. When I pushed him to explain his scum read on me, he talked to me from the perspective he knew I was town. I mean, telling someone that their playstyle is "aggressive" and that it's not the best way to get responses from others is not a valid reason to scumread someone even if accurate. It felt like he was trying quite unnaturally to be reasonable to both me and those reading his posts (200,201). I find both his intent and approach suspect towards me.In post 340, Archwing wrote:town to scum,
{archwing}
{bujaber, koki, stef}
{cedrick, maki}
{wh4t, gamma, brass, kaito, beef} ****
{kiana, rask}
* = null line. above it are slight townleans, nothing more.
In regards to Arch, he called him too scummy and reasoned that he must but a jester; however when Gamma pointed out that Jesters do not exist in this set-up, he said thanks but neglected to readjust his read of you.
In summary, so far it's all trying to look good and busy without actually doing anything I'd consder towny.
In fact I'm more confident in my BuJaber read than I am of my read on you.
VOTE: BuJaber
Arch what are your thoughts on BuJaber? He looks like a big town read to you.
As for arch at that time I thought he was so scummy he must be jester. When gamma corrected me then by default arch becomes a scumread. Do you expect me to go from jester to townread? I have now read more posts from arch and he's a townread now.
You are guessing who is scum and then trying to inflate your cases against these guesses. I was wrong you're not being overly aggressive. You're making up things just to fit your fictional version of the game state.
I'm trying to look busy? What are you doing then?
And what's wrong with voting for someone that someone else has? I agreed with Kiana that rask is scummy.
VOTE: wh4t
You got your wish. I won't be voting rask day 1. You have leaped above all scumreads.
-koki I don't like your entrance to the game. I don't like that you joke about being scum. That is all I meant and for that I am willing to policy lynch. It could easily be down as scum. If you outright say I'm scum you know people will lynch you so you joke about it or imply it in more vague ways.-
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What theory is it?In post 443, StefanB wrote:I give you that I had a certain theory but Kianas 436 destroyed that one.
Can you please type properly? I find it difficult to understand your posts.
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