…Hmm, who do I claim…
First name I see is…
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…Hi, I am a mason with Adorable.
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VOTE: Elements
I didn't know that Errant still played mafia, and in this game of all games no less!
Joke.In post 21, EspressoPatronum wrote:Alas, I am not Errant.In post 18, mastina wrote:I didn't know that Errant still played mafia, and in this game of all games no less!
Because I thought it'd beIn post 23, Korina wrote:Why are you claiming mason this early?In post 11, mastina wrote:Hi I am a mason with…
…Hmm, who do I claim…
First name I see is…
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…Hi, I am a mason with Adorable.
VOTE: Elements
I also got exactly what I thought would be the role for my item; the only surprise to be had is that I got the role based off of my third pick rather than first or second.In post 28, Korina wrote:I mean, I got exactly what I was thinking I'd get by submitting it, so... if I can predict it ahead of time, then odds are others can too.
Plus, I actually regret submitting it because my role genuinely sucks, but dying is somehow even worse.
Do tell, as I am not gonna idly accept this otherwise.In post 162, Korina wrote:I also have information that Mastina's claim might have some truth behind it, therefore I'm asking why.
While I love the idea of being neighborized…In post 207, Korina wrote:I'm also full-claiming now to save time down the road:
I'm a Flagbearing Indecisive Conditional Self-Excluding Neighborhood Crafter.
Apart from my flagbearing ability, each night before day starts, I submit two names to create a neighborhood between.
I can't submit the same pairing twice, until two phases later, (D1 > D4)
If there's an odd number of players, I'm automatically excluded from submitting myself.
Basically this.In post 225, Menalque wrote:You’re familiar with my meta so you know I’ve played with EP, mastina, momo, TD, and elements before. At least the least, I’d expect you to remember if played with at least one of them. Why would you think I would work better with eth0s than with someone I have existing meta with and an idea of their playstyle?
Can confirm, is the title of our fairly barren neighborhood.In post 236, Elements wrote:Speed dating
This smells of bullshit.In post 245, Korina wrote:You and eth0s are the only people I've actually played mafia with. I remember both of your playstyles being similar so I felt like it'd work out well between you two.
Elements and Elbirn were just because their names started with El, and I couldn't think of anything better.
I have no information about Shepard and jjh, so I paired them together.
TL and momo I have no information about (regarding mafia), so I paired them together.
Mastina and Adorable were paired because IMO, Mastina was a wildcard and could reasonably be paired with anyone.
Espresso and Tiph were literal RNG
mastina is disengaged.
VOTE: KorinaIn post 334, TemporalLich wrote:"Korina flubbed his role claim" does not equal "Korina is confirmed scum"
Even then powerlynching Korina is a bad move, and I wouldn't be surprised you're scum jjh....
VOTE: jjh927
To be honest the reason it took until basically this page for my scumread of you to be reversed is up until now your lack of commentary on the subject.In post 369, jjh927 wrote:I feel like you can figure that one out.
Also that is not a confirmed mason pair
Mastina claiming masons is a meme
Pretty much, yeah.In post 379, jjh927 wrote:You're caught scum trying to claim you were doing slayers
Pretty much, yeah. Your original point might've had merit but was admittedly self evidently weak--yet Korina trying to defend against the point was far, far more damning evidence than the original point ever could've been prior to said defense.In post 402, jjh927 wrote:Oh, my argument about not using the word gambit was weak af until your contrived defence
Admittedly goes down the rabbit hole a bit, of Korina being scum of scums, TL being a likely partner, and your push on TL, but fuckit, I desperately need the extra townreads so sure, via that train of logic, gonna call you town.In post 444, TiphaineDeath wrote:I'm not quite on board with L-A-L, but I'm pretty damn close, and this entire situation is FUBAR.
VOTE: Korina
I'll deal with the lich tomorrow.
Because they're scumbuddies, natch.In post 449, jjh927 wrote:You've sure been refraining from scumreading Korina a lot, haven't you TL
In the likely event of Korina being scum, this is probably town.In post 509, Elbirn wrote:In post 480, Korina wrote:Also, here's a list of games where I played poorly. Compare them to this game, and tell me if you notice any major differences between them, (apart from the obvious flagbearer claim)
1, 2, 3Big brain idea here, check it:
Maybe instead of playing like actual dog shit and saying it's just how you play
You could be better
You'll have to night kill me first, mate.In post 539, Menalque wrote:We’re doing jjh tomorrow just so we’re clear
Not particularly.In post 540, jjh927 wrote:Hey Menalque, aren't you supposed to be better at the game than this
Or have I just made that up
Pretty much, yeah!In post 558, jjh927 wrote:Night 1 begins, I go "huh", go to any lengths required to avoid playing with you again, and I don't think anyone other than menalque listens to your reads because while I believe you've played an abysmal scumgame, if you flip town you have somehow managed to play an even worse towngame
Mine doesn't, but then again, the number of town reads I have can be counted on one hand. (The full list: you, Adorable, TD, Elbirn-if-Korinascum, momo.)In post 585, jjh927 wrote:My TL scumread does mostly hinge on Korina!scum fwiw
Yep!In post 600, jjh927 wrote:Are you seriously doing your catchup thing now
I have pedits disabled mate.In post 601, jjh927 wrote:I know you're reading this on the pedits
Yeah, that would be why momo is a townread.In post 602, eth0s wrote:HAHAHA I just realized we are missing an entire slot. And I'm not even talking about Mastina. Go check the first post. jesus fucking christ
I did not.In post 612, eth0s wrote:yeah like elbirn and jjh know that she has obviously been keeping up with the game. So that actually gives me some glimmer of hope for the playerbase in this game
I was on mafiascum until 2:10; my last post said that I was leaving for work.In post 616, eth0s wrote:even if you're right I won't be able to accept it given the fact that she just "coincidentally" waltzes in here an hour after the hammer
I usually check pts even when not posting in games.In post 623, eth0s wrote:well she just admitted that she has been checking the neighborhood thread so idk I'm not convinced. either that or she's being a hypocrite and also hasn't been engaging in their PT at all. but even still she would have to be checking it to say that about adorable.
Then if my guess is right you probably know what liquid my object involves. (Well, there's a chance that this info isn't in that role so maybe not but oh well, can always hope.)In post 720, jjh927 wrote:He claimed his info in our pt fwiwIn post 712, mastina wrote:Oh, Shepherd was a backup of my role pretty sure. I probably shouldn't say what said role is but I'm like 95% certain knowing what my flavor is that Shepherd's role is tied to mine.
VOTE: Elements
Would also vote Espresso or Elbirn; these three are reads where Adorable and I seem to have some overlap. (TL is still a personal scumread of mine but Adorable has a townread there, so.)
I also knew it was deb
Oh right, meant to get to this before. Menalque, if you think that's daunting, just try and read my blog some time.In post 702, Menalque wrote:Mastina you have the best GTKAS page but it’s gonna take me literally days to get through it all I think
Thread presence will exist tomorrow.In post 683, Menalque wrote:You’d have to have a presence in the thread to do that mastinaIn post 677, mastina wrote:You'll have to night kill me first, mate.In post 539, Menalque wrote:We’re doing jjh tomorrow just so we’re clear
Regardless of Korina's alignment, jjh is town here. This is his town game.
Doubly so in the inevitable scumflip we have incoming.
I'm never lynching jjh andI will hard resist any effort you make on that front.
Tbf I’m not sure about jjh scum now, waiting on the flip. I do think that his progression during his interaction with me was a little odd (could be pocketing?) and that his push on kori was bad assuming kori!town, which again, is the only normal thing I think to do here in twilight
You're close to being a townread, but aren't there for a couple of reasons. I want to explain, but am short on time. I'll do it tomorrow if I live.
Honestly?In post 759, Menalque wrote:Yeah, that would be EP. Go and look at his ISO. Go look at mine. Come back. Vote for him.In post 758, TiphaineDeath wrote:One of Menalque/EP prob scum here, every time I unvote TL I hate myself though.
Mostly, yeah.In post 863, Elbirn wrote:Oh good you're going to actually play instead of just pretending you are
Who said you were null?In post 868, eth0s wrote:Also putting me as a nullread
Oh I don't want to coast by, I just find it hard to see how I can do anything but coast by when my reads are universally basically the group consensus reads but as Adorable can attest I had said reads before I knew they were the group consensus reads, so.In post 868, eth0s wrote:it sounds like she just wants to coast by.
The Espresso wagon is larger and is still a scumread. Why wouldn't I vote a scumread who has a larger wagon? Would you prefer me vanity vote a scumread? It's being pragmatic.In post 868, eth0s wrote:That's a pretty decent place in the EP wagon for scum to jump in and she did it anyway when she has 2 people she finds scummier than EP. One of them being you (Elbirn) who actually appears to have a decent chance at being lynched.
It didn't go anywhere, but it happens to be a scumread Adorable disagrees with--my scumreads on the three Es, however, are reads Adorable is more or less all onboard with, so.In post 872, Elbirn wrote:Where did your TL scumread go
Wrong.In post 873, Elbirn wrote:It's you looking at three names and saying "one or all of these are scum", an exercise which can be performed with any three names drawn from a hat and have about the same meaning.
That was copy pasted from my PT and I said as much; it was typed immediately after the Korina lynch but prior to the end of night.In post 876, eth0s wrote:Implies that she thinks there's a chance of a lynch happening before she returns, so her jumping on the most popular wagon of the day does not come across to me as "pressure" at all.In post 861, mastina wrote: I'll do it tomorrow if I live.
Feels good to have called the Chemist slot town before it was even Chemist's.In post 898, Chemist1422 wrote:In post 885, TemporalLich wrote:but yeah I concede that the intent to vote is way too standoffish and scum-motivatedummmIn post 886, TemporalLich wrote:if you want to vote out jjh I will be on your side.
Um.In post 913, eth0s wrote:She wasn't prodded even though she didn't post for 76 hours. Emerald saying in 430 that prods would be sent "soon if needed" tells me that, for all we know, mastina and momo both could have been posting in PTs and not being prodded for that reason.
There's three scum in the game, mate. Why, exactly, is voting your third-strongest scumread who has a wagon when your strongest scumread doesn't, a bad thing?In post 913, eth0s wrote:I called her out for repeating what others have been saying and jumping onto a wagon with little/no reasoning when she has2people she claims to be scumreading harder.
Can we make this happen please?
Because I have knowledge about momo which you lack.In post 962, eth0s wrote:Maybe I haven't conveyed this thought clearly then but why, if this is true, do you consider momo being conftown when he could have not been prodded due to PT activity? Clearly there could have been some kind of mixture of that and then the mod IRL stuff that appears to have effected him later in Day one so I'm just saying giving momo/chemist a free pass seems unwise at this point. Personally I am expecting some content from that slot soon before I stop being so passive aggressive about it.In post 956, mastina wrote:Um.In post 913, eth0s wrote:She wasn't prodded even though she didn't post for 76 hours. Emerald saying in 430 that prods would be sent "soon if needed" tells me that, for all we know, mastina and momo both could have been posting in PTs and not being prodded for that reason.
I explicitly was posting, yes.
I posted twice in my Adorable PT between my initial entrance into the game and my reemergence post-Korina-hammer.
This isn't some big secret; I already explicitly told you this?
Everything?In post 963, Menalque wrote:Mastina why do you think jjh is town? I know you said something about this being his towngame yesterda, what has he done today that is still town?
Well for a start. Every slot this game is mislynch bait; the very argument that you're using against jjh could be applied to those who're pushing the ep lynch;In post 966, Menalque wrote:Okay, let’s go with “diverting the pressure on EP away onto a slot that could be scum but is also very much mislynch bait meaning town is going to make a big fuss over it or if scum think they can get away with it possibly just be rapid lynched”In post 965, mastina wrote:Everything?In post 963, Menalque wrote:Mastina why do you think jjh is town? I know you said something about this being his towngame yesterda, what has he done today that is still town?
The question isn't what has he done which is town; the question is what he's done which HASN'T been town.
Why is that towny?
That is a towntell not a scumtell.In post 995, Menalque wrote:He takes the time to engage with the post, but onlyafterday has ended and we're in twilight, in 537. aka, he's trying to distance himself from the mislynch by explaining why he wasn't persuaded by the post.
I don't buy the argument of suspicious timing and fully believe jjh was going to argue those points regardless of Korina's status at the time jjh argued them; jjh had no way of knowing Korina would self-hammer (as town no less) before he could make them.In post 995, Menalque wrote:but if you're town, why not engage the arguments first while events are still in motion?
I actually gave a counter to this in my PT with Adorable, which I didn't post because it was something I typed before Korina was lynched that became irrelevant once Korina flipped town--In post 995, Menalque wrote:kori literally having been lynched and saying he's town i.e. erasure of the incentive to lie.
Korina answered this for you, in 680: (to) seed chaos.In post 684, Menalque wrote:@mastina, why do you think kori!scum bothers posting here in twilight when it hasn’t really interfered with us talking about things? Like the whole conversation has been too cogent for me to think that’s more likely than kori!town emotionally self-hammering and then trying to cause chaos in twilight, plus the fact that, again, if he flips scum it’s very easy to just disregard everything he’s said here as WIFOM
And given Korina's play, that is a stance any sane player would take and was in fact my own take as well--why're you scumreading jjh for taking that stance and not me when I had literally the same mindset as jjh?In post 995, Menalque wrote:"I don't understand how any sane person could actually townread Korina right now".
This is the logic players use to mislynch slots who should be locktown because they would never nightkill the player in their PT. See also, the game-losing mislynch I suffered in MBoS 4 where I quite correctly argued I wouldn't have killed the player in the PT with me, yet the scum argued that "mastina killed them so that she could control the narrative of it".In post 995, Menalque wrote:SoaS is a weird kill. But he's a perfectly logical kill for scum!jjh because that lets him entirely control the narrative of what happened in the PT with SoaS.
And I really think you're scum showing flagrant blatant opportunism by hopping onto a shitty case that is easy to latch onto but which when analyzed utterly falls apart.
The scumteam is literally just EspressoPatronum, TemporalLich, and probably Elements here. (Darkhorse Elbirn but Elbirn's scumread can at least plausibly come from town.)
By having a scum alignment, natch.In post 1027, jjh927 wrote:How does EP make both of these posts
Because scum have a nifty scapegoat in the form of Menalque to latch onto and with him spearheading it they could blatantly latch onto the wagon and go "hey we might be able to push this through".In post 1042, Chemist1422 wrote:I don't like the progression of this wagon on jjh
It seems to have gone from a tinfoil into a full-on thing in a weird way
You were a counterwagon to both EspressoPatronum and TemporalLich, the only other two wagons with real momentum.In post 1054, jjh927 wrote:I'd like to know if I'm a counterwagon to something at which point we also discover that TL was not considered a viable counterwagon
Being town does not equal being accurate with your suspicions.In post 1057, eth0s wrote:But then at the same time Mena has arguably been my highest TR the whole game.
Sure.In post 1127, Menalque wrote:Am I right in thinking that the lynchpool for most people today is something like (EP, elbirn, TL, ele)? Could we try to narrow that down to 2 candidates so that we have a choice but it’s clearer what everyone’s defined stances are
I mean, I am, but.In post 1136, Elbirn wrote:Oh because shes a bullshitter
I mean, fair chance TL's townread comes from him being scum but if you're arguing that I must have a reason to be town in order to not be scum, you're running afoul of a fallacy mfriend.In post 1149, Elbirn wrote:Why do you townread mastina? On what grounds my dude?
To be honest I'm of two minds there.In post 1161, Menalque wrote:Kinda giving me jeebies how elbirn got on it tho
Yes, but the real question would be are you? Sure doesn't seem that way to me.In post 1198, Elements wrote:Martina, are you town?
I've no desire to spare Elements off of his claim.In post 1269, TemporalLich wrote:I don't see how elements being an inaccurate bloodhound is a fakeclaim...
it's a strong town power role, though it is a percentage role...
My role also has to do with water; I'm a 2-liter water bottle. My ability is rather different from TD's tho.In post 1375, jjh927 wrote:Umm also deb's info was that there was at least one role in the game that had to do with water.
Sure.In post 1403, Menalque wrote:Okay if we pretend you’re town then go find me the actual scum
In post 1410, Menalque wrote:That was such a WIFOMy fucking kill, my god
> "That was such a wifom kill"In post 1411, Menalque wrote:Probably implies 1 of (elbirn, mastina)
My head is at the spot where I can show you where jjh took an identical stance defending scum based on scum trueclaiming because I was the scum trueclaiming and jjh townread me that game for the same reasons he defended Elements this game and that the push on him is thus bullshit.In post 1421, eth0s wrote:Mastina I want to know where your head is at as well.