i beg to differ! ;>In post 13, Almost50 wrote:Who? Me? Why would I bully the player with the arguably cutest avatar on site?
VOTE: Almost
i beg to differ! ;>In post 13, Almost50 wrote:Who? Me? Why would I bully the player with the arguably cutest avatar on site?
right now, i would say Socrates looks town.In post 121, Socrates wrote:I find annoying that people think about the mechanics only in terms of how they can be used directly, not in terms of how they can be a vector for scumhunting. Scum can do a lot, but they can do very little without leaving a paper trail if we approach it correctly. I will have more to say on this day 2.
i'm still reading up, but i want to note this and answer it for good.In post 470, Imperium wrote:Why does something have to be complete for a push early game?
i liked the way Desperado explained his thought process surrounding the read after being questioned, it looked very genuine to me. simply thinking Almost is town for that posting isn't really enough for me. unless i missed it somewhere, you didn't really go in depth about it. essentially, Desperado caught my attention there while i just forgot that you had that opinion. i happened to mention Desperado there because i was reminded of the townread while talking about Almost.In post 491, Imperium wrote:In post 421, Imperium wrote:Why do you like desperado for liking almost's post as coming from town and ignoring that we had already discussed liking almost's approach there?In post 246, Not Chara wrote:early assessment of Almost here suggests he's leaning town. i like Desperado's assessment of that one Almost post coming from town (meaning i like Desperado), but Almost is a self-aware scum and is perfectly capable of forming such a thought. he remembers things and uses them, his alignment has little to do with it. that would be why Almost is only lean town. i certainly don't want him lynched, however. i haven't seen anything from him i don't like yet.
I want this question answered as your going through things. This one matters more to me than the ball stuff, which this head cares little about.
you may have noticed in my first post today, but i am considering that to Socrates, my position and zefiend/Almost's were different. at the time when i scumread Socrates for that point, i still felt that calling that one tell a 'case' for other players to sheep was going overboard when other players had expressed the same opinions.In post 494, Imperium wrote:Tells in and of themselves do not mean the person thinks oh everyone who does this one thing is definite scum. They do not exist in a vacuum. If someone commits one tell you find scummy, and they haven't done anything else you find town, pushing them for it is what mafia is all about. Selective scumhunting exists, sure, but I don't see it playing out in this case.
Also and not related here, asking questions is not throwing shade, it's trying to figure out the game.
was there any point in saying this? it isn't as though it will matter if you end up flipping town.In post 490, Imperium wrote:In post 486, Not Chara wrote:if Imperium is scum, Clumsy is almost certainly town.
Any statement that begins with if imperium is scum will lead to a flawed conclusion.
the games only just started. between you and ABR i'm getting those 'this wagon is the wagon town should be on and you're scum for trying to go against the decision!' vibes that i get from awful games where players aren't allowed to have opinions.In post 461, Tywin Lannister wrote:Also, I'll repeat: anyone with a reason not to vote clumsy, go ahead and tell me why. Otherwise, why aren't you also SRing the slot? If they flip scum, any fence sitter should be the subsequent lynches, and yes, I'm playing pre-flip associations. If you take a hard town stance on them, at least I know you weren't playing both sides in hopes of derailing the lynch but leaving open the bus possibility if necessary.
i know this means Tywin, not typing.In post 501, Imperium wrote:So here's the thing and why I care about the desperado thing is because we did give a town read for his approach to typing. Typing misunderstood what we meant, and I explained that we townread the way almost scumhunted typing, but did not agree with the conclusion.
i've just explained it. theNow nacho had expressed early suspicion on desperado and when I think about how desperado!scum might navigate the game against nacho (my other head), I think he would try to make it look like they were on a similar wavelength early. I could see him pointing out a read we already gave, understanding what looked town about it, and sharing that. Now he could also just be town on the same wavelength, sure, but I found it interesting that you liked desperado's take while ignoring that the first person to even mention that list looking like town was us.
well, i wasn't. i don't exactly have a hydra PT to throw thoughts into. they go here so i can see them later. if you flip scum i'll refer back. if you don't then you really have nothing to worry about.In post 503, Imperium wrote:And no we're not scumreading clumsy, and yes even we flip that will be evident that we're town, but if you're viewing reads today with that premise in mind and how it affects the alignments of other players, you'll be wrong.
it's possible. either way i'm uncomfortable making my mind up about it.In post 787, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Because they are both town.In post 785, Not Chara wrote:Tywin vs. Majiffy made me like Majiffy more Tywin less, but i really can't make up my mind. trying to go through the back and forth is exhausting.
what about it was town? like, why did it appear genuine instead of something fakeable?In post 1147, Desperado wrote:zefs response to me calling out his "pings" seemed town even if I had to prod him to get those thoughtsIn post 1144, Not Chara wrote:i could lynch any of Clumsy, Maria, zefiend, and Alisae.
who is townreading these players and why?
we don't lynch people for being wrong. if you're town, stop suggesting to take a dive for no reason.In post 1165, Tywin Lannister wrote:I'd Maria flips scum, I'll gladly follow next seeing as I was so wrong
i've been in a few games with Vifam. for now, this reminds me of his towngame.In post 1319, Imperium wrote:Not Chara - Are you leaning town on Vifam still? Can you talk about that read?