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FL why shouldn't I lock you as scum for pushing LaL?In post 1173, Flavor Leaf wrote:At this point, it’s not even just a lynch all liars thing for me.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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"not even just a lynch all liars" implies that LaL is part of it, but not all of it. At least that's how I read it?In post 1188, Flavor Leaf wrote:
That’s not even why I’m pushing this lynch...-.- i literally said I wasn’t doing it for that in the post you quoted.In post 1186, Ausuka wrote:
FL why shouldn't I lock you as scum for pushing LaL?In post 1173, Flavor Leaf wrote:At this point, it’s not even just a lynch all liars thing for me.
And I guess you wouldn't even make that post as scum because everyone knows you lie as town so whatever. It's just confusing to me.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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so people were pushing Quick as scum for this? Really?In post 1048, Quick wrote:Yeah, I'd rather not.
@MOD, I am replacing out
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This is absolutely not indicative of mulch!scum at all, and it doesn't mean he isn't scumhunting. This is just how he plays. I agree on inferno though.In post 1270, Beefster wrote: Mulch looks scummy to me because he's not really scumhunting. He's just calling some players town and some scum with no explanation and demanding that you join his wagons.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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oh so I've been in this game for one day and you're already personally attacking me. beautiful.In post 1282, Inferno390 wrote:
You're not really this thick, right?In post 1260, Ausuka wrote:
so people were pushing Quick as scum for this? Really?In post 1048, Quick wrote:Yeah, I'd rather not.
@MOD, I am replacing out
Didn't know you were in this game when I joined.
Yeah, and he said he didn't know FL was in the game before he replaced in. I don't see the inconsistency here at all. If he found out that FL is in this game after he joined the game/replaced in, and before he made that post, there is absolute consistency.In post 1282, Inferno390 wrote: The wagon formed based arond the fact that Quick said in neighborhood chat that he was going to PL Leaf based his bad playstyle (Leaf is also in the neighborhood.) The post in the neighborhood came out over 12 hours before this post. So he knew well in advance of making this post that Leaf was in the game.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Why are you acting like tunnels are something that scum cannot do? It's like the easiest thing. All you have to do is pick one player and scumread them constantly.In post 1283, Inferno390 wrote:
So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?In post 1280, Ausuka wrote:what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?
No that's not what I'm saying at all. You're tunnely as either alignment, sure. What I'm saying is that I think you're scum, who is doing tunnels to try and look like tunnely town.In post 1283, Inferno390 wrote: And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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yeah, you're gonna have to walk me through this one, because not only do I think him trying to conftown himself by meta in this way is scummy, but I'm reading the game and from what I've read so far Inferno is very scummy earlygame, especially with his reaction to the dayvig which I think is super fake. It's possible he towned it up between then and now but eh, I doubt it.In post 1285, Mulch wrote:
Towny afIn post 1283, Inferno390 wrote:
So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?In post 1280, Ausuka wrote:what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?
And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.
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I don't get your point. What I think is that Quick joined the game not knowing FL was in it, realised FL was in it, tried to deal with him/policy lynch him/whatever, and then he got fed up and just decided to replace out. All Quick said in that post was that he didn't realise FL was in the game when he replaced in and I don't really think you can disprove that at all. Unless you're saying that he said explicitly in the neighbourhood "Let's policy lynch FL" and then said afterwards "I only just realised FL was in this game."In post 1289, Gamma Emerald wrote:
and yet he said he wanted to policy flavor before he had that realizationIn post 1286, Ausuka wrote:Yeah, and he said he didn't know FL was in the game before he replaced in. I don't see the inconsistency here at all. If he found out that FL is in this game after he joined the game/replaced in, and before he made that post, there is absolute consistency.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Right now I don't really need to be sold on quick!scum. I don't believe he replaced out because of wincon things- that mindset makes no sense anyway, because if you replace out, you can't win. The reason I think quick was scum is because when I played with LQ, he had a very distinctive, obvtown way of playing involving lots of self-meta, and it was clear to me and many other people in that game that he was town. He also said his scum game was very bad. Fast forward to this game, and when I ISO him now he's not showing any sign of this behaviour, and a lot of people call him out as scummy, which is consistent with his towngame being obvious town and his scumgame being below average. That's why I would vote quick if it came down to it. However, I don't think I'm anywhere near the time where Quick replaces in on my catchup, so for a good read on him you'll have to wait until then.
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1) Yeah, and what I'm saying is that it feels like you're scum doing tunnels to look like town. I'm not familiar with your towngame, but if your towngame is getting into tunnels, that isn't exactly a difficult meta to replicate. In general, if you want to replicate your meta, it's fairly easy to do.In post 1306, Inferno390 wrote:
1) Of course it's something scum can do. But it's also something town can do. and it's something I do all the time as town. But you think I'm so good at being scum (despite the fact that this would be my first game ever as scum) that I can accurately mimic my town game in a game full of people I've played with before recently and get people commenting on my play about how it resembles my town game from previous games?In post 1287, Ausuka wrote:
Why are you acting like tunnels are something that scum cannot do? It's like the easiest thing. All you have to do is pick one player and scumread them constantly.In post 1283, Inferno390 wrote:
So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?In post 1280, Ausuka wrote:what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?
No that's not what I'm saying at all. You're tunnely as either alignment, sure. What I'm saying is that I think you're scum, who is doing tunnels to try and look like tunnely town.In post 1283, Inferno390 wrote: And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.
2) But if I'm tunnely as either alignment, how can you say anything about my alignment based on my tunneling?
See? NAI.
I feel like I've been sideswiped by scum!Ausuka becasue I've been on TIAM as scum, and she's calling my tunnel "scummy" to try and get me to back off/draw my attention away.
2) because it feels like you're scum doing tunnels to look like tunnely town. the act of you doing tunnels is not the AI thing.
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I was told by FL this was why people are scumreading Quick, and I had literally just replaced in. Personal attacks are not cool, especially when I never did anything wrong.In post 1307, Inferno390 wrote:
Well, to be honest, you are bluntly avoiding the whole point of why that wagon formed.In post 1286, Ausuka wrote:
oh so I've been in this game for one day and you're already personally attacking me. beautiful.In post 1282, Inferno390 wrote:
You're not really this thick, right?In post 1260, Ausuka wrote:
so people were pushing Quick as scum for this? Really?In post 1048, Quick wrote:Yeah, I'd rather not.
@MOD, I am replacing out
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I'm only on page 15 rn but I don't feel like egg has been that scummy.
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This doesn't make much sense to me.In post 1320, Mulch wrote:Scummy
Almost a scumslip
I don’t think town look to check there
VOTE: nosferatu
Usually I don't like scumslips as tells but this might actually be one. It's possible he's town and wants to know if anyone thinks either are SvS but meh. Probably not worth lynching for but I'll take it into account.In post 1318, Flavor Leaf wrote:So Inferno made a comment in the neighborhood stating “do you think theinteractions with me/Ausuka and me/Twoinamillion are weird?”
Seems like it could have been meant for a scum pt.In post 1334, RedFlavor wrote:
Making what?In post 1201, Gamma Emerald wrote:
why are you making ti about LUVIn post 1154, RedFlavor wrote:I liked LUV and Quicks reason to replace out is maybe understandable
but 2iam opportunistically jumped to their wagon and said "its golden"
VOTE: twoinamillionyeah I think RF is town this game.
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i've literally already commented on it. go away.In post 1359, Gamma Emerald wrote:
lmao you just fucked up big timeIn post 1358, Ausuka wrote:Usually I don't like scumslips as tells but this might actually be one. It's possible he's town and wants to know if anyone thinks either are SvS but meh. Probably not worth lynching for but I'll take it into account.
you don't comment at all on me saying Quick's proposal to policy Flavor in our hood could be a slip but you nudge Inferno's possible slip? Thanks for tying yourself to Quick.
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like, what do you think this is.In post 1291, Ausuka wrote:
I don't get your point. What I think is that Quick joined the game not knowing FL was in it, realised FL was in it, tried to deal with him/policy lynch him/whatever, and then he got fed up and just decided to replace out. All Quick said in that post was that he didn't realise FL was in the game when he replaced in and I don't really think you can disprove that at all. Unless you're saying that he said explicitly in the neighbourhood "Let's policy lynch FL" and then said afterwards "I only just realised FL was in this game."In post 1289, Gamma Emerald wrote:
and yet he said he wanted to policy flavor before he had that realizationIn post 1286, Ausuka wrote:Yeah, and he said he didn't know FL was in the game before he replaced in. I don't see the inconsistency here at all. If he found out that FL is in this game after he joined the game/replaced in, and before he made that post, there is absolute consistency.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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that's because I don't think quick scumslipped, which you would know if you were actually evaluating the game instead of looking for things to push.In post 1362, Gamma Emerald wrote:ok I got that wrong but there's still the issue of you pushing that one but not Quick
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first one sounds like asking a buddy if they think an interaction looks scummy. second one is literally just saying you want to policy lynch someone, and LQ replaced out because he didn't like playing with flavor, so I don't see why a PL is an impossible thing to suggest. no reason that's a scumslip. to be fair Inferno's probably wasn't a scumslip either thinking about it again but whatever.In post 1364, Gamma Emerald wrote:How is "what do you think of these interactions" not on the same level as "I'm thinking of policy lynching Flavor"?Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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what. that is not a scumslip at all. that's just someone talking in a certain way.In post 1366, Gamma Emerald wrote:lol damage is done bro
the way they said it so matter-of-factly like it was already planned out sounded like a post scum would make like "hey I'm gonna push this PL so just be ready"Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Spoiler: Ausuka actually catches up on the game instead of procrastinating for once except her catchup is incoherent
Okay, I've finally reached the point where I replace in. I guess I don't expect anyone to read the whole thing but if you want to read me you should probably skim it.
Extra-Special Townbloc of Happy Friends
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^ I'm pretty sure this post doesn't come from town. Lots of TIAM posts are scummy on the surface level because they make no sense, but don't have any scum motivation.In post 1409, TwoInAMillion wrote:The only people that are wanting to lynch me are scum.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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So what you're saying is that when you call people terrible and unintelligent, that's more likely to come from scum!gamma, since you see it as a scumtell?In post 1416, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This is a horrible post though. He's discrediting anyone who thinks he is scum as unintelligent. I feel like this is a scum type of post.In post 1410, TwoInAMillion wrote:Pretty much anyone that has anything intelligent to say is saying I am town.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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In post 983, Gamma Emerald wrote:
wow you're terribleIn post 974, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think two’s town.i mean, yeah, you did. it's not on the wrong side of the "attack the play, not the player" rule but it directly implies that these players are terrible and bad and shouldn't be listened to.
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Well, yeah. I'm trying to say that Gamma seeing the kind of behaviours he's displayed in this game as scummy makes more sense from gamma!scum than gamma!town, because if he does it as town he would think it's towny or NAI, but if he does it as scum it makes sense that he would think of it as scummy.In post 1479, Mulch wrote:
I don’t think it’s that bad :pIn post 1477, Ausuka wrote:In post 983, Gamma Emerald wrote:
wow you're terribleIn post 974, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think two’s town.i mean, yeah, you did. it's not on the wrong side of the "attack the play, not the player" rule but it directly implies that these players are terrible and bad and shouldn't be listened to.
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I think that TIAM has been acting like town lynchbait, and that Mordin is a significantly better lynch. I think scum!Mordin may have also been lurking and not bothering to contribute so that town would swing onto TIAM instead. So I wouldn't be willing to vote TIAM today.
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Texcat, maybe. I think nictis is an obvious townie. It's also possible mordin wasn't bussed, scum were on two, and Mordin wanted us to think scum were ok with his death.
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Why aren't there 2 scum in the hood and 2 town? It seems like a somewhat reasonable distribution to me, if not the most likely one.In post 1543, Flavor Leaf wrote:Never lynch Gamma/Two I highly doubt here are multiple scum in this neighborhood unless it’s multiball.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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No, I don't think it's likely it's 3 scum and 1 town. In a theme maybe, but in a normal, no. I believe that one of you is mafia, and the other one is town.In post 1572, Gamma Emerald wrote:Um wouldn't that mean you think 3 scum are in there if you stand by both of those reads
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Inferno has been scummy this game, but I thought about it at night and it kinda feels unlikely that a neighbourhood has 2 scum in it. It's just a really awkward thing that I've never seen before, even if there's no reason why it couldn't exist. I think I like the RF vote better now.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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and Gemerald.In post 1605, Mulch wrote:Oh is it inferno/flavor/LUV??Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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It isn't mine! I think that interaction is mainly null; I could see LUV and RF scum working together to get some distance between them and Nos, and I could see LUV buddying a townie. I didn't really take it into account while reading.In post 1622, Nictis wrote:
Really? That's... an odd way to make an acronym.In post 1601, Ausuka wrote:SvS means an interaction where both players are scum, not bussing (unless I'm interpreting your post wrong)
In that case, what did you think of the tiny interaction he had with LUV about his vote on Nos? 298 299
PEdit: Annnd mulch just dropped to 80% certainty.
Also mulch is locktown here, no question about it.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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Extra-Special Townbloc of Happy Friends
Ausuka, Mulch, TwoInAMillion
Candidates For Promotion
(Gamma Emerald, Inferno390) Nictis, profii, Archwing, Theta Alpine
Watchlist For Meaniness
Beefster, texcat, Firebringer, Egg, Flubbernugget
Wanted for Bullying and General Sad Crimes
northsidegal, RedFlavorReach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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