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Disagree low activity players are better for scum to have around. Elimming a high activity slot just for info is not a good ideaIn post 43, Town looter wrote:Unless there is good evidence of lurking, no. Mis-elimming an active slot will generally tell us more than a mis-elim on an inactive slot. This obviously only applies to early game, activity will be a useful source of information later in the game because of how easy it is to fly below the radar.-
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True, you said elimming higher activity slots gives more info which is 1 not necessarily true and 2 implies elimming high-content slots is not that bad which is harmfulIn post 47, Town looter wrote:
That's really not what I said though, was it...In post 45, superbowl9 wrote:
Disagree low activity players are better for scum to have around.In post 43, Town looter wrote:Unless there is good evidence of lurking, no. Mis-elimming an active slot will generally tell us more than a mis-elim on an inactive slot. This obviously only applies to early game, activity will be a useful source of information later in the game because of how easy it is to fly below the radar.Elimming a high activity slot just for info is not a good idea-
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This is the correct takeIn post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.
This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.-
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Pointing out what you agree with is true makes me open wolfing??In post 68, Nero Cain wrote:
Are you open wolfing? vigs shooting low activity players is decent vig play, as you said keeping them around is better for scum since they make a good scapegoat if they are town.In post 45, superbowl9 wrote:Disagree low activity players are better for scum to have around.-
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Exactly, when you want to spark real interactions you don't comment as if you just are looking for an interaction lol. That makes for watered-down interactions, much like explaining out an early wagon waters down the wagon. Finesse my guy!In post 157, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Your tone inflicted more than just "looking for interactions". Otherwise i would have responded differently.In post 154, superbowl9 wrote:Not angry, just trying to create interactions. Which you should know with your level of experience-
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I mean if you don't understand it I don't think I can really help you fam
It's kind of like telling you why explaining a joke no longer makes it funny, if you don't get it you just don't get it
Ah yes, the scum distancing on pg 5 of a large game strat. I can argue with you if that will make you feel better-
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Nah not necessarily. Transparency is powerful but it's also a game of information. If you just put everything out there 100% of the time you will lose your advantage.In post 180, Nero Cain wrote:
oh, you are one of those players :/In post 176, superbowl9 wrote:Do you just not understand the concept of keeping information to yourself so you can greater benefit lol?-
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Yeah thats my pointIn post 183, stan1ey wrote:
Where did I say it was forced SvS ? Dont remember saying thatIn post 176, superbowl9 wrote:If you didn't think it was forced SvS why did you bring it up? Do you just not understand the concept of keeping information to yourself so you can greater benefit lol?-
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You say an argument looks fabricated. What’s your next thought as a mafia player? Who stands to benefit from fabricating arguments?
It seems like you observe some fact about the game and then just turn off the part of your brain which follows up and makes conclusions from that fact. Also explains why you would not be able to see why weak early wagons are fine to just let be-
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How are we bloating RVS?? We both posted like twice and it wad like two sentences each time. I’ve seen theory take over threads but this was nowhere even close to thatIn post 215, 72offsuit wrote:
Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?In post 64, superbowl9 wrote:
This is the correct takeIn post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.
This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.-
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In post 235, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Well stanley is voting for you. How is that for a follow up?In post 203, superbowl9 wrote:You say an argument looks fabricated. What’s your next thought as a mafia player? Who stands to benefit from fabricating arguments?
It seems like you observe some fact about the game and then just turn off the part of your brain which follows up and makes conclusions from that fact. Also explains why you would not be able to see why weak early wagons are fine to just let be
I would also look favorably upon a superbowl wagonTaking note of how you proposed an alien wagon then flaked
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Yes any level of aggression is really warranted from a naked vote. Thats why its a bad RT its literally NAIIn post 316, Nero Cain wrote:i mean, it wasn't really a reaction test. Do you feel like the level of agression that he's sending my way is justified?-
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Nah I aint said thatIn post 321, Nero Cain wrote:you and suberbowl are saying that.-
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Just said I didn't see your original alien vote tho lolIn post 324, Nero Cain wrote:
taking note that SB tried to throw heat on me for changing my mind and vote. He wanted my play to remain static.In post 307, superbowl9 wrote:Taking note of how you proposed an alien wagon then flaked-
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LOL cause you're the guy who disagreed when I said concealing info is helpful for all alignmentsIn post 345, Nero Cain wrote:I've said it wasn't a RT like 3 times now, why do you keep insisting that it was a RT? And what do you think of my actual reasom for voting him and his explanation/lack there of depending on POV?
A straight naked vote would be a little weird coming from that philosophy no? I mean regardless of this meaningless shade I just threw it became a RT whether you like it or not because you analyzed the reaction and knew it had potential to have what you view as a negative reaction.
I get why you voted him (I think) and I dont necessarily disagree just think alien is better right now-
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I hate when people do this. Idc if you kill me stuff is so NAI yet so easy to paint as scummyIn post 340, NoPowerOverMe wrote:The "I don't care if I die early" is blatant ate that's the main reason Norway needs to go.-
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In post 348, Pickaxe Pete wrote:
Were you going to make a case on CSF?In post 308, superbowl9 wrote:Oops didnt mean to quote 235 there
I was gonna respond to it but decided it wasnt worth it because it was a misrep. If you call that vote a follow up it's admitting alien thought that argument was SvT or SvS posturing which makes no sense (which he knows which is why he keeps backing off that position). It's just OMGUS. Also this is a tricky little semantic misrep because I was clearly talking about him not drawing conclusions from facts, not him being unable to follow his reads with votes.In post 349, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Why did you ignore my post? This isn't the first time you just glossed over someone verbalizing a scumlean on you.In post 307, superbowl9 wrote:In post 235, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Well stanley is voting for you. How is that for a follow up?In post 203, superbowl9 wrote:You say an argument looks fabricated. What’s your next thought as a mafia player? Who stands to benefit from fabricating arguments?
It seems like you observe some fact about the game and then just turn off the part of your brain which follows up and makes conclusions from that fact. Also explains why you would not be able to see why weak early wagons are fine to just let be
I would also look favorably upon a superbowl wagonTaking note of how you proposed an alien wagon then flaked
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I have actually seen this more from town than scum. Both have equal motivation to do it so both theory and practice agree it's NAIIn post 352, NoPowerOverMe wrote:It is scummy. Not at all NAI.-
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Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throatsIn post 440, 72offsuit wrote:
There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nahIn post 346, superbowl9 wrote:I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable-
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Why do you think stanley is good for scum me to latch onto over town me? What has stanley done to give you a townread?In post 438, Town looter wrote:Bleh, just as I was starting to get a gut scum feeling about Superbowl (SB), MM throws a proper case together and is going to make it look like I am sheeping (for the 2nd or 3rd time in this game ).
My read started after re-reading the Stanley interaction. I think Scum!SB genuinely thinks it's a good case that he can latch onto and look like he is scumhunting. And it kind of is, except for the fact that there absolutely could be a SvT interaction that "feels" forced (I take Stanley's response as a throw-away gut feeling after reading - I have made similar statements): Scum could be doing the forcing, which gives the conversation a forced feel overall. Given I have a mild town read on Stan, I am willing to trust his gut in this.
Then there is the reluctance to respond openly, which could be scum motivated as the information may not exist.
And then the response to mis-quoting in 308; later you say you were going to respond, but your initial response doesn't really add up. I think a more natural town response would be to respond to 235, probably in a slightly flustered way given you mis-posted.
All very minor things, but they all add up.
I also am getting town vibes from Nero (and NoPowerOverMe, which will matter in a second). Trusting these vibes puts a question mark over Glitch. And where are you in Glitch's reads? Right where a scum partner would be. I know it is absurd looking for associations prior to a single flip. But like I say, the little things are adding up.
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VOTE: Superbowl
It sounds to me like your case is "well scum superbowlcouldhave done all of these things!" I hope I don't have to tell you that's a bad case.
For the misquote thing I was on mobile and hit the quote button to respond, then changed my mind because I assessed it as not too big of a deal to respond to, you're saying I should have been flustered by it and responded immediately? Maybe I just don't get flustered because I'm built different-
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Oh the ironyIn post 446, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:There are two possibilities: either Offsuit is a pretty OMGUSsy townie, or they're scum throwing shade at me.-
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Really getting tired of ppl trying to use general contexts to say that what stanley said made sense. If they’re talking about the argument being staged, that makes no sense. If they’re talking about the argument being a little bit of a stretch/over nothing, we’re trying to escape RVS so why would you say that unless you’re trying to supress AI content??In post 505, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I think there are two interpretations of what stanley was trying to convey in 165, and I'll let him clarify which one. But I didn't think stanley was trying to say that the argument was pre-planned, so much as the argument developed weirdly.In post 378, superbowl9 wrote:CSF because he said it was staged why would SvT stage an argument-
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This is what I'm saying like you're playing mafia. If you think the argument is kind of forced you should next be thinking why that argument seems forced. Oh we are transitioning from RVS? Makes sense. Looks like I won't pointlessly post that this argument seems forced which could be interpreted as me shading this as scummy.In post 518, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Some people just say what's on their mind
Don't see how it suppresses AI content
That's the thought process I would expect. You seem like you are just trying to shoehorn in good reasoning for this poor statement-
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This is semantic tap dancing, you were not accusing either of us of fake scumhunting thereIn post 520, stan1ey wrote:
Every argument scum make is forced because they are having to pretend to be scumhunting? Why is so hard to understandIn post 365, superbowl9 wrote:Because why would SvT fake an argument-
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Ironic that this is a misrep. If you look at what I'm replying to it's CSF saying that if you were talking about the argument being SvT that mindset would make sense. I don't think this is what you were talking about but I am saying that this mindset wouldn't make sense if it was what you were talking about.In post 527, stan1ey wrote:
This post is at best superbowl deliberately misrepping me and at worst blatantly lying about what I said can we just lynch him already plsIn post 378, superbowl9 wrote:CSF because he said it was staged why would SvT stage an argument
Also we're both online dude, talk to me. Do you think I'm scum trying to miselim an easy target?-
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Big if trueIn post 558, ralph217 wrote:hmmmmm
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