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[72offsuit]

Was thinking if your alignment in this game motivated you to read that game.
It seems like you tried to grasp their characteristics.

So light SR on SJ?

This pings me. Enough for a serious vote.
Its like town looter is hoping for it to be a SR.

TownLooter

[72offsuit]

It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s

"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.

You sure about this? Was scumread by everyone as town when replaced into a slot that was widely townread

[72offsuit]

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[72offsuit]

This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

This is the correct take

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.

This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

[72offsuit]

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

[72offsuit]

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

LOL, voted for the wrong player.

VOTE: MM Choo choo!

[72offsuit]

I think I'm losing my marbles.

I did mean to vote for Bell.

VOTE: Bell

Choo choo

[72offsuit]

Do you have anything else on Bell besides that he's lamisting? Convince me i'm wrong

This comes from scum more often than it comes from town.
If anyone wants to wagon superbowl, I'm on it.

[72offsuit]

Meh, if you want something done well, do it yourself.

UNVOTE: Bell
VOTE: Superbowl

[72offsuit]

How does explaining your reasoning for voting remove impact ?

It's kind of like telling you why explaining a joke no longer makes it funny, if you don't get it you just don't get it

Absolute nonsense lmao VOTE: superbowl9

Beat me to the punch.

[72offsuit]

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

-- Even if they find it to be filler, it might serve a purpose.
-- Spending your time trying to halt bad discussion isn't the same thing as attempting to generate good discussion.
-- If filler is removed from a thread, the pace becomes sluggish and the activity level dips. It makes it easier to coast.

Hey Lapsa, what do you think of Bell's line of questioning? Is how someone responds to a role PM alignment indicative?

I don't.

Do you have any reads so far? Any thoughts on the conversations?

"Spending your time trying to halt bad discussion isn't the same thing as attempting to generate good discussion." Thanks Sherlock. What's you point?
If filler is removed from a 21 player game.... the thread becomes easier to read.

[72offsuit]

Strong drunkread on 72

Never been drunk in my life bro. It's 1 am and time to sleep.

[72offsuit]

here's my conclusion. Anime avatars are horrible.

Strong townread on Nero.

^ This was serious, by the way. I like the way he switches from pointed observations to chatter. It suggests he's trying to understand the motivations of players but also that he isn't self-conscious. That reads townie to me.

Why did you feel the need to state the Strong townread was serious? Why didn't you explain your read in the same post as you stated the read?

[72offsuit]

Why do you feel the need to put "reason" next to every vote you make?

Why did you feel the need to state the Strong townread was serious?

Do you townread Marshmellow? I find when people echo specific phrases while speaking with me, it's because the second speaker feels comfortable with the first.

I don't have a read on MM at all. Nothing has registered on the town-scum-radar.

[72offsuit]

I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

[72offsuit]

Anime pfps are rising in strength. Soon we will take over the universe

Hear hear brother.

The time for revolution is neigh. Throw off the chains of the bourgeoisie anti-anime oppressors.

The temptation is too strong.

Spoiler: video

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_GBfiKjJZ8[/youtube]

FORWARD

This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

This is the correct take

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.

This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

Right. Good start from offsuit here.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

Not exactly original, but pretty understandable and acceptable.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

LOL, voted for the wrong player.

VOTE: MM Choo choo!

I think I'm losing my marbles.

I did mean to vote for Bell.

VOTE: Bell

Choo choo

This confusion leads me to question what exactly Offsuit thought he was sheeping, and what his intent was when he did it. When you genuinely sheep a reasoning you find good, it's because you thought about it and really liked it... so uh, what is this? Not sure I like it.

Thats because I wasnt confident about what i was sheeping.

[72offsuit]

Anime pfps are rising in strength. Soon we will take over the universe

Hear hear brother.

The time for revolution is neigh. Throw off the chains of the bourgeoisie anti-anime oppressors.

The temptation is too strong.

Spoiler: video

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_GBfiKjJZ8[/youtube]

FORWARD

This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

This is the correct take

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.

This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

Right. Good start from offsuit here.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

Not exactly original, but pretty understandable and acceptable.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

LOL, voted for the wrong player.

VOTE: MM Choo choo!

I think I'm losing my marbles.

I did mean to vote for Bell.

VOTE: Bell

Choo choo

This confusion leads me to question what exactly Offsuit thought he was sheeping, and what his intent was when he did it. When you genuinely sheep a reasoning you find good, it's because you thought about it and really liked it... so uh, what is this? Not sure I like it.

This is actually really scummy.
Liked my previous stance on himself.
I do something that based on what he has posted, he should scumread me for, but instead concludes with a fence-sittish "so uh,

what is this

?

Not sure

I like it"

[72offsuit]

So basically it feels like !scumMM concluding that its not in his interests to scumread me, so he doesnt.

[72offsuit]

Time for bed before I fill the thread with useless posts like this one.

[72offsuit]

Nine, ten, eleven o'clock, twelve o'clock, rock

We're gonna rock around the clock tonight…

[72offsuit]

I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats

There's no way someone with a town mindest would misinterpret what I meant.
Let me break it down.

1. You say "I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw"
2. I disagree. I say it's highly unlikely that all the top volume posters are town, on the premise alone that scum would not allow town to dictate the game's trajectory by mostly just lurking. If there are active town posters, scum will usually interject and derail unless there is TvT aggro.
3. You say "You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO?"
4. That is clearly not what I said.

More votes on superbowl required

Choo Choo Choo!

[72offsuit]

how many scum is in

LicketyQuickety
popopopopopopo
ralph217
Ganelon
NorwegianboyEE
Glitch
Lapsa

?

This is probs town

[72offsuit]

(Nero)

[72offsuit]

or wait, maybe im wrong.

If I SR you because of your play, and SR Norway because of his play, it is optimal to apply pressure, not to speculate blindfolded on a possible scum alliance. I am certainly not, in a game this large especially, going to speculate on players playing scum together right off the bat on D1.

he seems to be hinting that he thinks I was bussing norway. it's still weird mostly.

Ye, happy to kick Glitch just off this one post alone.
Neat punctuation - SCUMMY

[72offsuit]

I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats

There's no way someone with a town mindest would misinterpret what I meant.
Let me break it down.

1. You say "I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw"
2. I disagree. I say it's highly unlikely that all the top volume posters are town, on the premise alone that scum would not allow town to dictate the game's trajectory by mostly just lurking. If there are active town posters, scum will usually interject and derail unless there is TvT aggro.
3. You say "You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO?"
4. That is clearly not what I said.

More votes on superbowl required

Choo Choo Choo!

No no no you are misunderstanding what I said. When I say you think there's a townblock I mean you think there's some townblock that

can

be created within the top 5 that scum needs to stop, not that there actually is one operating right now. Maybe it would have been better phrased as "you think theres a townbock to be prevented within the top 5/6".

Doesn;t matter how you word it.
At no point did i suggest there were 5 town in the top 5 posters, as you suggest. I said THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE.
I said theres sure to be scum in the top 5 active posters.
You completely ignored the intent of my post and chose to read what you could conveniently spin otherwise.

[72offsuit]

I've previously played with NBEE, JV and Hiraki.

[72offsuit]

I thought that it was over.....
I thought you'd understand.....

That Superbowl;s wagon.....
Is the one to get on, band.....

[72offsuit]

Spoiler:

Someone was supposed to ask 'but Reaver, why did you vote for 72?'

Thank you for asking, I shall tell you!

From my perspective, they had a single disagreement with superbowl over something NAI, voted them, and then picked up on things superbowl said afterwards to paint them as suspicious. This looks a lot like someone slipping onto a wagon after an actual townie and trying to blend in.

Do you have anything else on Bell besides that he's lamisting? Convince me i'm wrong

This comes from scum more often than it comes from town.
If anyone wants to wagon superbowl, I'm on it.

Meh, if you want something done well, do it yourself.

UNVOTE: Bell
VOTE: Superbowl

^ said this after Stanley already voted for superbowl. In a later post added 'beat me to the punch' as though he didn't see the vote.

I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats

There's no way someone with a town mindest would misinterpret what I meant.
Let me break it down.

1. You say "I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw"
2. I disagree. I say it's highly unlikely that all the top volume posters are town, on the premise alone that scum would not allow town to dictate the game's trajectory by mostly just lurking. If there are active town posters, scum will usually interject and derail unless there is TvT aggro.
3. You say "You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO?"
4. That is clearly not what I said.

More votes on superbowl required

Choo Choo Choo!

"There is no way someone with a town mindset..." gives me pings. One of the things I learned in my first game was that townies have vastly different mindsets and ways of looking at things. I've read through 72's previous games and he's typically the person with the unusual mindset.

While I'm at it, I think it's clear what superbowl meant. Superbowl sees the most active posters as 'at each others throats.' As he assumes they're townie, the idea that they'd form a town block and need to be derailed strikes him as funny.

Could he have worded that better? Yes. But it's not hard to suss out his meaning with a second of reflection. This suggests 72 either had already decided to find superbowl's post 'scummy' or that he's too cognitively occupied to parse the comment. I consider this a possible scum trait--as a townie, we try to get into the heads of others. Scum already know who is townie and who is a baddie, so they're attempting to fake it.

This is super vague. Post which posts gave you the impression of me being "unusual" in my previous games.

[72offsuit]

Someone was supposed to ask 'but Reaver, why did you vote for 72?'

Thank you for asking, I shall tell you!

From my perspective, they had a single disagreement with superbowl over something NAI, voted them, and then picked up on things superbowl said afterwards to paint them as suspicious. This looks a lot like someone slipping onto a wagon after an actual townie and trying to blend in.

Do you have anything else on Bell besides that he's lamisting? Convince me i'm wrong

This comes from scum more often than it comes from town.
If anyone wants to wagon superbowl, I'm on it.

Meh, if you want something done well, do it yourself.

UNVOTE: Bell
VOTE: Superbowl

^ said this after Stanley already voted for superbowl. In a later post added 'beat me to the punch' as though he didn't see the vote.

I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats

There's no way someone with a town mindest would misinterpret what I meant.
Let me break it down.

1. You say "I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw"
2. I disagree. I say it's highly unlikely that all the top volume posters are town, on the premise alone that scum would not allow town to dictate the game's trajectory by mostly just lurking. If there are active town posters, scum will usually interject and derail unless there is TvT aggro.
3. You say "You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO?"
4. That is clearly not what I said.

More votes on superbowl required

Choo Choo Choo!

"There is no way someone with a town mindset..." gives me pings. One of the things I learned in my first game was that townies have vastly different mindsets and ways of looking at things. I've read through 72's previous games and he's typically the person with the unusual mindset.

While I'm at it, I think it's clear what superbowl meant. Superbowl sees the most active posters as 'at each others throats.' As he assumes they're townie, the idea that they'd form a town block and need to be derailed strikes him as funny.

Could he have worded that better? Yes. But it's not hard to suss out his meaning with a second of reflection. This suggests 72 either had already decided to find superbowl's post 'scummy' or that he's too cognitively occupied to parse the comment. I consider this a possible scum trait--as a townie, we try to get into the heads of others. Scum already know who is townie and who is a baddie, so they're attempting to fake it.

This is super vague. Post which posts gave you the impression of me being "unusual" in my previous games.

[72offsuit]

Superbowl
Ikeepsiteflaking
Bell
Hiraki
A50

[72offsuit]

I'm just gonna say this now so I don't have to later, I am having life issues so I might dissapear for a day or two suddenly. I won't completely drop the game as it's fun just in the midst of having to move out suddenly and all that.

I will definitely say that I am VLA for a few days when that happens but please don't think that's me just prodging for the sake of prodging as I'm going through a lot.

Thank you all

Take care, look after yourself.

[72offsuit]

Superbowl
Ikeepsiteflaking
Bell
Hiraki
A50

Is this your poe?

Well not poe, but your suspected scum-team?

Thought it might be fun to take a ping.

[72offsuit]

If theres 1 thing i hate it’s people bailing from a wagon for bs reasons. Finish your wagons properly ppl. Although im totally fine if we just move over to stanley.

72 why are you still scumreading me when you initially did so because you couldn’t understand what i said?

Superbowl = Scum case:

64 Can't really nail exactly, but this post's tone pings me. Just doesnt sound like its coming from a town perspective.
Who gives too hoots what is "correct" or not.

152 Why is anything more than LAMIST required in the early phase of day 1? If !townNBEE had any further reads as to why Bell
might be scum he would've outed them. Feels super forced and unnatural.

This post is enough for a kick on its own.

346
"I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable"

He is clearlly saying he doesnt think scum is likely to be active because it is high risk low reward.
Even if this is true, who says scum plays "optimally" 100% of the time?
Speaks to a scum-frame-of-mind too.

452
"Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats"

COMPLETELY misreads what I'm saying. Either intentionally misreads or simply doesnt care enough to try and decipher my intent.
Scummy either way.

[72offsuit]

Spoiler: SJReaver wallpost

Someone was supposed to ask 'but Reaver, why did you vote for 72?'

Thank you for asking, I shall tell you!

From my perspective, they had a single disagreement with superbowl over something NAI, voted them, and then picked up on things superbowl said afterwards to paint them as suspicious. This looks a lot like someone slipping onto a wagon after an actual townie and trying to blend in.

Do you have anything else on Bell besides that he's lamisting? Convince me i'm wrong

This comes from scum more often than it comes from town.
If anyone wants to wagon superbowl, I'm on it.

Meh, if you want something done well, do it yourself.

UNVOTE: Bell
VOTE: Superbowl

^ said this after Stanley already voted for superbowl. In a later post added 'beat me to the punch' as though he didn't see the vote.

I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable

There are 5 scum. You seriously think all 5 are going to be low/medium posters and just allow town to form a town-block. Yeah nah

Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats

There's no way someone with a town mindest would misinterpret what I meant.
Let me break it down.

1. You say "I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw"
2. I disagree. I say it's highly unlikely that all the top volume posters are town, on the premise alone that scum would not allow town to dictate the game's trajectory by mostly just lurking. If there are active town posters, scum will usually interject and derail unless there is TvT aggro.
3. You say "You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO?"
4. That is clearly not what I said.

More votes on superbowl required

Choo Choo Choo!

"There is no way someone with a town mindset..." gives me pings. One of the things I learned in my first game was that townies have vastly different mindsets and ways of looking at things. I've read through 72's previous games and he's typically the person with the unusual mindset.

While I'm at it, I think it's clear what superbowl meant. Superbowl sees the most active posters as 'at each others throats.' As he assumes they're townie, the idea that they'd form a town block and need to be derailed strikes him as funny.

Could he have worded that better? Yes. But it's not hard to suss out his meaning with a second of reflection. This suggests 72 either had already decided to find superbowl's post 'scummy' or that he's too cognitively occupied to parse the comment. I consider this a possible scum trait--as a townie, we try to get into the heads of others. Scum already know who is townie and who is a baddie, so they're attempting to fake it.

I was reading Offsuit's ISO and thinking that they had very little progression on Superbowl and yet was going full "more votes on him are required". This case is actually pretty strong, and if Offsuit is scum, Superbowl is probably cleared by his flip.

VOTE: 72offsuit

Probably a better lynch than Superbowl, since it has good odds of red flip AND cleans Superbowl if the red flip happens. I also think SJR would be cleaned for this very post, because there's no reason for scum!SJR to make such a case against a scum!Offsuit at the time the case was made.


Also, a Glitch lynch sucks. Look at the utter lack of resistance to his lynch (excluding me lol). The case against him isn't even strong. Unvote him, stop the madness.

His case is complete garbage, it doesnt even have a nice ribbon tied off to it to even disguise the garbage.

[72offsuit]

I think it's townie the way glitch phrased his claim.


VOTE: 72offsuit
They're the much worse half of the continuous argument with reaver that got overshadowed.

1138 is avoiding the reason reaver scumreads offsuit and instead asking for specifics of a tangent of the argument.

His case is garbage.

[72offsuit]

Literally zero worth responding to.

[72offsuit]

Kick pool:
Superbowl
Bell
IKS
Townlooter
MM
SJR
Fwesnid

Probs in that order.

[72offsuit]

Hm, maybe 72 isn’t scum.

Nope.

[72offsuit]

Come on aboard, I promise you you won't hurt the horse...
We treat him well, we feed him well...
There's lots of room for you on the bandwagon...
The road may be rough, the weather may forget us..

[72offsuit]

Superbowl wagon

CHOO CHOO CHOO

[72offsuit]

Come on aboard, I promise you you won't hurt the horse...
We treat him well, we feed him well...
There's lots of room for you on the bandwagon...
The road may be rough, the weather may forget us..

Sorry, but poetry won’t convince me.

Its not poetry, its song lyrics.
You joined a game called Manatee's Musical Mafia
What were you expecting?

[72offsuit]

Come on aboard, I promise you you won't hurt the horse...
We treat him well, we feed him well...
There's lots of room for you on the bandwagon...
The road may be rough, the weather may forget us..

Sorry, but poetry won’t convince me.

Do you at least SLIGHTLY agree with ANY of my points against Superbowl?

[72offsuit]

Superbowl
Ikeepsiteflaking
Bell
Hiraki
A50

Are these the people you townread? Scumread? Are banned from your next B-day party??

This was answered already had you bothered to read the thread.

[72offsuit]

VOTE: Fwesnid

[72offsuit]

Hi offsuit.
Could you answer it again anyway. Just one or two words.

Scum

[72offsuit]

Food

[72offsuit]

Good

[72offsuit]

And then you voted Fwesnid.

You just put him at E-1 by the way.

Trying to shade me for voting outside my early ping at scum, when i clearly updated my scumlist.

Bell is obvscum.

[72offsuit]

VOTE: Fwes

It's Saturday so I won't be around much because it's my DnD day. Just consider me voting the largest wagon.

Claiming now to save time.
I am a

3-shot loud gunsmith.

Vote for me if you think I'm scum who's gonna repeatedly claimed blocked or a mafia loud rolecop/gunsmith/follower.

Didn't crumb since loud is provable, and if I got no gun I'd crumb 'inno' such that their person I visited would hopefully see it, when I got a gun result I'd ask the person to roleclaim at start of day after saying I have a guilty.

You better not all cfd norwee because iT'S tHe lArGeSt wAgOn.
That can be part of the reason but that should not be the entire reason.

My top scumreads right now are offsuit and titus.

What does "loud" mean?

[72offsuit]

VOTE: Bell

[72offsuit]

VOTE: Lapsa

[72offsuit]

Shame on town if I get voted out over Lapsa. Joke ISO.

[72offsuit]

Ok so what have u concluded when i flip town?
What have you concluded if I was mafia?

[72offsuit]

JV piss off. I always post at this time.

[72offsuit]

You're Aussie too aren;t you?

[72offsuit]

Ok so what have u concluded when i flip town?
What have you concluded if I was mafia?

If you flip mafia it's safe to say that superbowl is cleared.

p-edit: Yeah I am lel, it's almost midnight here

Except I'm town, so you learn jack shit from my flip

[72offsuit]

Let me ask back at you, what do we learn from a Lapsa flip 72?

We learn jack shit. But we eliminate a player who we dont want in LYLO.

[72offsuit]

If he is scum, then the main pushers of his wagon are more likely to be town.

[72offsuit]

!scumMe doesnt vote Lapsa here. !scumMe votes !town NBEE. So unless NBEE and I are both scum...

[72offsuit]

If he is scum, then the main pushers of his wagon are more likely to be town.

Do you think scum would defend a slot like Lapsa if they were teammates?

Theres a difference between Defend and Hard Push.

[72offsuit]

I would do a50

[72offsuit]

!scumMe doesnt vote Lapsa here. !scumMe votes !town NBEE. So unless NBEE and I are both scum...

Why would scum!you not vote Lapsa, they were likely going to be the lynch tbch

? NBEE and Lapsa both 5 apiece.

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1392 is scummy as shit.

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!scumMe doesnt vote Lapsa here. !scumMe votes !town NBEE. So unless NBEE and I are both scum...

Why would scum!you not vote Lapsa, they were likely going to be the lynch tbch

? NBEE and Lapsa both 5 apiece.

Except Lapsa can't defend themself and they were a newly growing wagon.

This sounds like scum mindsett

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He totally ignored the fact that that post where I posted 5 names had already been addressed by yourself.

Given the fact Superbowl was on the list of 5 and I was pushing Superbowl, there is no way that 5 was my town reads.

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It shows he isnt even reading the thread

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I'm re-logging on in 9 hours time. I will 100% be here for the hammer, even if its my own. It better not be though.

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It shows he isnt even reading the thread

That generally isn't AI in itself, you could also say that scum would be more likely to read the thread as to try not to fuck up.

Why are you defending him?

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VOTE: Glitch
I want to know what he will do when pressured.

L-2

Intent to hammer.

are u gonna let him claim?

are u gonna let him claim?

I also want a claim before any hammer were to happen.
Hammering before that is a scumclaim.
UNVOTE:

Saying "weird" is scummy on its own. So non-comittal.

Either the L-2 was actually L-1 (I am not counting) or the following 3 posts are weird.

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Anyone who unvotes the leading wagon now for a shitty reason is a prime candidate to eat a bullet tonight. I kid you not.

P.S. The list now has both Norwee and IKS on it. Anyone else want to be on it?

This is so forced.

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Superbowl
Ikeepsiteflaking
Bell
Hiraki
A50

Are these the people you townread? Scumread? Are banned from your next B-day party??

Why is it not scummy for him to ask is this my list of townreads??? when I am pushing Superbowl.

If he was town, his mindest would be to check who I scumread and If my scumread reads as genuine.
!TownAlmost50 should know who I am pushing.
The fact he asks is this my townreads list is evidence that he doesnt care what I;m doing in the game.

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@72 do you have anything on my counter-argument or no

Also can you explain how that's forced, don't see it personally. Only bit that I can see at least somewhat would be the bottom

What counterargument?

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Also pls respond to my 1924 .

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Superbowl
Ikeepsiteflaking
Bell
Hiraki
A50

Are these the people you townread? Scumread? Are banned from your next B-day party??

Why is it not scummy for him to ask is this my list of townreads??? when I am pushing Superbowl.

If he was town, his mindest would be to check who I scumread and If my scumread reads as genuine.
!TownAlmost50 should know who I am pushing.
The fact he asks is this my townreads list is evidence that he doesnt care what I;m doing in the game.

I think that it's them asking what the list was instead of just assuming. Nobody is ever going to take the time to check your ISO to understand a specific post rather than just ask. And back to my other point of, scum would more likely read the thread rather than town.

You are saying you dont ISO your scumread?????

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@72 do you have anything on my counter-argument or no

Also can you explain how that's forced, don't see it personally. Only bit that I can see at least somewhat would be the bottom

What counterargument?

That scum would more likely pay more attention to the thread than a town would. And thus saying X person is scummy for not reading the thread is kinda moot

If it was a random player, sure, but in this case,
he IGNORED THE PLAYER HE WAS SCUMREADING

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VOTE: almost50

CHOO CHOO CHOO

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@72 do you have anything on my counter-argument or no

Also can you explain how that's forced, don't see it personally. Only bit that I can see at least somewhat would be the bottom

What counterargument?

That scum would more likely pay more attention to the thread than a town would. And thus saying X person is scummy for not reading the thread is kinda moot

If it was a random player, sure, but in this case,
he IGNORED THE PLAYER HE WAS SCUMREADING

I don't think this is as big of a scum-tell as you think it is

I never said it was big.

Your wording here also makes it sound like you agree with me that its at least a tiny scumtell, so I dont know why you arent joining the a50 wagon.

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only minor thing that irks me about 72 is that he came in and vanity voted bell. but yes a50 is scummier than 72. You could certianly argue that lapsa barely posting is just scum flying under the radar.

I didnt know the deadline at that stage. Its Sunday night here.

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I do. I just got speedwagoned last game. Prefer not 2 in a row. Regardless of alignment.

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A50, where are you from?

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Post 1 at the bottom, setup notes:
e townvmafia numbers are confirmed to be 16v5

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Nah, not apologizing. Reasoning has been implicit since I got in. Vote's on the largest wagon.

Who would you kick irrespective of wagon sizes?

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To explain why I seem to be coming ahrd on 72pffsuit: We played together before in this game, one that he started and I replaced into. I didn't even make a proper catch up in that game, but he lasted long enough to know how I catch up everytime I fall behind.

You were scum that game. Why are you drawing comparisoms to a game in whcih you were scum?

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okay.

next question: who is scum?

You.

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VOTE: norwegian

this is a soul-vote until i figure out if 72 is a good wagon

Lol. THis is horrible. Looking for an excuse to vote me. There are 5 scum and 16 town. From !townyou PoV, its 5 scum and 15 town, so I'm 75% town without you reading anything.
That;s why your post is scummy as shit

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also wow this vc is everywhere.

what's your opinion on 72 and a50? they have the most but that's not saying a lot atm.

This is also terrible

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also wow this vc is everywhere.

what's your opinion on 72 and a50? they have the most but that's not saying a lot atm.

You have also played with me previously. Why did you compare a50's prior games to this one, but not mine?

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72 don't do this to me.

i have a mighty vote i can wield upon your wagon

The Text is mighter than the Vote

[72offsuit]

mightier*

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Probably not Nero.
Probably not SJreaver.

Lean not Superbowl.

After that it's mostly just iunno'

@A50 is playing a confidence game that I don't really understand, he's destabilizing the game state and our reads to some extent, but I don't really know if he's doing it for townie or scummy reasons.

Offsuit just needs a hug, is a big grump, and we're trying to send him home because grumpy people are no fun.

Ydrasse has seen me grumpy, and coasted to an easy scum win on the back of it.

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im not shutting anyone down?

Step lively, my friend, take cover
Be sure, beware of this other lover
She's cool, she's you
She's oh so shrewd and she's on to you
So steady, Eddie, think clearly, be ready
Sometimes your heart can be unsteady
She's on time, she's on line
She's push and shove 'cause you're her goldmine

[Chorus]
Shut down, shut down

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i think i'll start with isoing a50 and 72.

If you ISO me I'll ISO you, and you won't like it because you have NOTHING in your ISO (as of yet)

"If you ISO me?" I already have.

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a50 feels different than the game i played with him. he was scum in it.

Lady, you're getting me killed. Just say that you're not sure about me and move on.

@a50
If you are town, its possible Ydrasse is scum pushing your wagon without actively voting.
Your post gives me the impression you think Ydrasse is town.
What are your thoughts on Yd

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A bit late to say this, but i don’t think i’ve ever seen Alisae replace out of a game like they did. Does anyone have thoughts on this?

Never played with them.

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She wasn't pushing him, she was defending him.

Yeah, I misread Yd's post. I see she is saying the previous game a50 was scum, and this game is different, ergo a townread this game.

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Nothing in Alisae;s posts has pinged me.

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I've previously played with DrDoLittle (DDL)

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Why are we voting superbowl?

This post really sucks. I think !townFlaker would be more likely to target a specific player or 2 that pinged him badly to question there motive in voting rather than a open ended question to which noone is accountable to.

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Since when "player A and player B are more likely to be scum than other players" and "player A and player B are not scum together" contradicts each other?

Awkward scum not knowing how to contribute to town, so posts this drivel.

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I have a feeling that Glitch is trying to pressure/ sort his 2 strongest scumreads, even though they (perhaps) aren't scum together.
Nero, where can you see that Glitch is pushing your/ Norwegian's lynch, rather than sorting you?

Pings ++ here.
Why are pushing a wagon on a player who pings you and sorting a player;s alignment mutually exclusive?

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VOTE: Glitch
I want to know what he will do when pressured.

L-2

Forecasting the reason for your vote doesn't feel like town trying to trap scum.

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UNVOTE:
I want to see his defence, not his claim.

LAMIST. Wants to see Glitch's defence, but then doesnt make actual comment on what he thinks of the way that Glitch defended.

[72offsuit]

VOTE: LXXII

It's Seven Deuce. Not seventy-two. It's not rocket science.

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Hiraki
Pickaxe Pete

Alisae
I Keep Siteflaking

Fwesnid
JacksonVirgo
Bell
Nero Cain

stan1ey

Almost50
superbowl9
NoPowerOverMe
SJReaver

Marshmallow Marshall
ralph217

72offsuit

Titus
NorwegianboyEE

Town looter

Glitch

Lapsa


So im literally @ town looter, empty Ali and Lapsa slots, ralph, MM abd I guess IKS b/c they are prety null to me

Are these people you want and think that can lynch today?
If yes, why exclude Titus? I find this slot as one of the most null slot in the game.
Why not VOTE: 72?

Spoiler:

If theres 1 thing i hate it’s people bailing from a wagon for bs reasons. Finish your wagons properly ppl. Although im totally fine if we just move over to stanley.

72 why are you still scumreading me when you initially did so because you couldn’t understand what i said?

Superbowl = Scum case:

64 Can't really nail exactly, but this post's tone pings me. Just doesnt sound like its coming from a town perspective.
Who gives too hoots what is "correct" or not.

152 Why is anything more than LAMIST required in the early phase of day 1? If !townNBEE had any further reads as to why Bell
might be scum he would've outed them. Feels super forced and unnatural.

This post is enough for a kick on its own.

346
"I don't see scum in this top 5/6 teir of the activity list btw
Risk/reward of being that active this early in the game is not very favorable"

He is clearlly saying he doesnt think scum is likely to be active because it is high risk low reward.
Even if this is true, who says scum plays "optimally" 100% of the time?
Speaks to a scum-frame-of-mind too.

452
"Yes that's what I said. You think there's a town block in the top 5 LMAO??? We've been at each other's throats"

COMPLETELY misreads what I'm saying. Either intentionally misreads or simply doesnt care enough to try and decipher my intent.
Scummy either way.

is the only "good" post he has made.

Why do you only question ONE out of about 13 crossed out palyers? And the player you question is based on activity, rather than based on actual content?
Why not state your own thoughts regarding the other 12 or so players on the list?

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VOTE: I Keep Siteflaking

[72offsuit]

CHOO CHOO CHOO!

[72offsuit]

When I wake up tomorrow...
In the Land Down Under...
Where women glow...
And men thunder...

And the Flaker isn;t the kick...
I'm gna be sick.

Board the train,
And rewards you shall gain,
Don;t exert your brain,
It'll only cause you pain,
Don't go against the grain,
There is no need to feign,
Or stand out in the rain,
So join me and erase this stain,
(from our Town of Duloc, a perfect place)

I'm a poet,
And I didn;t even know it.

[72offsuit]

72offsuit, what caused you to ISO siteflaking?

Its obvious.

Titus is probs scum just based off this post.

[72offsuit]

ment to say gut sorry i posted to fast .

Meant*
Too*

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So since i was feeling a bit lost earlier i’ll just state slots i am most sure about being town and then hopefully do an succesfull PoE from there.
People i think are town: Bell, Nero Cain, Superbowl9, Hiraki, Fwesid, 72OffSuit, Marshmallow Marshall, JacksonVirgo, SJreaver, A50 (don’t wanna vote him anymore).

What are your thoughts on Ralph?
What are your thoughts on IKFS?

[72offsuit]

His reads r shit as town, so at least that's consistent

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And iksf?

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His reads r shit as town, so at least that's consistent

Re: hiraki

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72 don't do this to me.

i have a mighty vote i can wield upon your wagon

Yeah I personally think 72 and this has at least one scum in it, although this seems extremely theatre like when you read 72 as scum.

Am i known for my scum vs scum theatre am i?
Pls show me a past game of mine that supports this.

[72offsuit]

2 parts of JV's push against me stink.
1 - when he accused me of logging in at a convenient time despite that time being when i normally log on, which he full well knows bring Aussie himseld and us playing at least 2 games with each other prior to this.
2) This lame scum theatre theory

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72offsuit, what caused you to ISO siteflaking?

Its obvious.

Titus is probs scum just based off this post.

Then you can tell me if it's obvious. Right now, I am the only person you're voting with. To turn around and attack the only person voting with you makes little sense.

Clarifying why you ISOed serves three purposes. First, it helps me read your flail. Second, it draws more attention to siteflaking helping me prove or disprove my theory. Third, if you and siteflaking happen to be scum together (theory wrong but I guessed right), that will come out too.

Ok

[72offsuit]

Superbowl
Ikeepsiteflaking
Bell
Hiraki
A50

Kick pool:
Superbowl
Bell
IKS
Townlooter
MM
SJR
Fwesnid

Probs in that order.

I changed my mind about a50.

My thirst for superbowl and bell blood diminished

IKSF was next scummiest, his ISO is a pile of turd

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72offsuit, what caused you to ISO siteflaking?

Its obvious.

Titus is probs scum just based off this post.

Then you can tell me if it's obvious. Right now, I am the only person you're voting with. To turn around and attack the only person voting with you makes little sense.

Clarifying why you ISOed serves three purposes. First, it helps me read your flail. Second, it draws more attention to siteflaking helping me prove or disprove my theory. Third, if you and siteflaking happen to be scum together (theory wrong but I guessed right), that will come out too.

1. There is no flail.
2. Accusations of flail are scummy
3. You have no theory. You had a vanity vote. You didnt even present a case why IKFS might be scum
4. Why wouldnt !scumMe and! ScumIKFS just ride it through to the end as scum?

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Why "that will come out too"?

[72offsuit]

72offsuit, what caused you to ISO siteflaking?

Its obvious.

Titus is probs scum just based off this post.

Then you can tell me if it's obvious. Right now, I am the only person you're voting with. To turn around and attack the only person voting with you makes little sense.

Clarifying why you ISOed serves three purposes. First, it helps me read your flail. Second, it draws more attention to siteflaking helping me prove or disprove my theory. Third, if you and siteflaking happen to be scum together (theory wrong but I guessed right), that will come out too.

If i think your play is scummy of course im goimg to point iy out, even if we r on the same wagon

[72offsuit]

If anything that should ahow you that i dont have a scum agenda

[72offsuit]

I just answered this.
I was voting A50. I changed my mind, he no longer felt particularly scummy.

I looked through tbe player roster and my previous scum pings. I looked back at who pinged me as scummy.

IKFS was the next scummiest.


I dont TR A50.


Nothing about my play is contradictory.
Nothing you have done has felt town.

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Why don't you just answer why you ISOed siteflaking if it's obvious.

Second, yes you are flailing. You've FoSed several people in the span of a few pages with contradictory positions with what is actually happening. Both town and scum do this.

Third, you flat out deny my theory exists, which was my best guess at why you ISOed Siteflaking in the first place. I find it hard to believe you outright missed my theory since it's the bulk of my content right before the pause. Namely, my theory is that town are going to town on each other and scum are waiting it out. You argue my vote is vanity and that I am scum, which detracts from the power of your vote...since it's in the same place.

I can infer that you claim to townread A50. Your act of looking for a scumread away from the major wagons suggests that you feel my theory has merit. So overall, your actions are contradictory and confusing.
Lastly, I don't know and I am not sure if you're scum together or not. Answering why scum behave the way they do is far too early. You could be panicked scum bussing to create distance. You could be town panicked. I don't know but your behavior is weird.

So why did you ISO siteflaking?

What theory?

What is your case as to why IKFS might be scum?

[72offsuit]

Why don't you just answer why you ISOed siteflaking if it's obvious.

Second, yes you are flailing. You've FoSed several people in the span of a few pages with contradictory positions with what is actually happening. Both town and scum do this.

Third, you flat out deny my theory exists, which was my best guess at why you ISOed Siteflaking in the first place. I find it hard to believe you outright missed my theory since it's the bulk of my content right before the pause. Namely, my theory is that town are going to town on each other and scum are waiting it out. You argue my vote is vanity and that I am scum, which detracts from the power of your vote...since it's in the same place.

I can infer that you claim to townread A50. Your act of looking for a scumread away from the major wagons suggests that you feel my theory has merit. So overall, your actions are contradictory and confusing.
Lastly, I don't know and I am not sure if you're scum together or not. Answering why scum behave the way they do is far too early. You could be panicked scum bussing to create distance. You could be town panicked. I don't know but your behavior is weird.

So why did you ISO siteflaking?

What is contradictory?

[72offsuit]

So it sounds like you are admonishing me for my bad play as town rather than for being scummy

[72offsuit]

Whatever. Cos the world revolves around yout inability to sort a player.

[72offsuit]

VOTE: 72offsuit

I can't sort someone who isn't even reading my posts.

Pot calling the kettle black

[72offsuit]

1. That’s not a no or yes.
2. How?
3. That's not arbitrary at all!

1. That's because Siteflaking isn't a scumread. It's a stir shit up vote. If I say no, the logical question is for a case. I don't have one. Yet, siteflaking isn't a gut read either.

2. Voting a non entity that's here might draw attention away from the bickering and get lurker slots to engage. It's already got your attention.

3. My vote is arbitrary because it could apply to several slots.

This is what you said. Stir up shit. Thats not a scumread

[72offsuit]

2 parts of JV's push against me stink.
1 - when he accused me of logging in at a convenient time despite that time being when i normally log on, which he full well knows bring Aussie himseld and us playing at least 2 games with each other prior to this.
2) This lame scum theatre theory

I went to check this before sleeping but first of all, I don't expect an aussie to log in at almost midnight to start catching up so unless you expect I think every australian stays awake until 4am try again.
Second one is likely if you flip wolf, or if they flip wolf.

That just sounds like another excuse to vote for me:
Oh but look how much info ill get from his flip!

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I have a kind of tinfoil where 72 mistook their buddies post for their own but that's just jumping straight to probable stupid logic so Ima just say it now for post-game cred if that was actually the case lmfao.

I meant to quote that post. You said you thought that was scum and scum theatre between Yd and myself.

If you are town you are confbiasing with a garbage line of thought.

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Titus, 72 was already scumreading IKS. Hence what he said in 2363. He further clarifies this in 2377.

I think you are both town and JV is breaking my heart.

Yeah.
Nero is town.
Titus is town

JV is???

[72offsuit]

Can we honestly jus wagon IKSF?

[72offsuit]

I have a kind of tinfoil where 72 mistook their buddies post for their own but that's just jumping straight to probable stupid logic so Ima just say it now for post-game cred if that was actually the case lmfao.

I meant to quote that post. You said you thought that was scum and scum theatre between Yd and myself.

If you are town you are confbiasing with a garbage line of thought.

I do think it's scum theatre because of the wording and tone. But I was SRing you wayyyy before that regardless so defending yourself from that one post is pointless.

p-edit: And now they're gonna go and OMGUS me lel

p-edit 2: I am always "out there", everyone tries to get me to change my play-style but I have fun playing like I do so I'm not changing shite.

I dont give a shit about defending agaisnt garbage.
This is me trying to sort your slot.

[72offsuit]

Can we honestly jus wagon IKSF?

No

Wssnt talking to you.

[72offsuit]

I keep site flaking

[72offsuit]

Just the person 2 posts agk u said u wudnt vote for.

[72offsuit]

Seems odd u wudnt know the name of the player u refuse to vote for

[72offsuit]

Just the person 2 posts agk u said u wudnt vote for.

I didn't really look at who you were talking about, I don't want you flailing onto another wagon.

Nero seems to like your thoughts on them I'll give them a read

Wow, an attempt. To actually consider working with me. Rathrr than just shoot me. Down and tunnel. Me. Maybe you might be town after all.

[72offsuit]

I think im just in a shit mood. No offense meant if ive rubbed anyone the wrong way. Gnite

[72offsuit]

I think this is literally the towniest I've seen Titus in awhile. I agree with 2458 hard.

For everyone saying that 72 scumread ISK earlier, so what? He didn't say more than that. Now that he is, are you going to judge based on WHEN he SR or HOW he SR? I'd rather do the later.

Who is "everyone"?

[72offsuit]

best page top ever?

2 days to deadline and your vote is solo on a dead wagon.

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I really dont understand the resistance to the IKSF wagon.
I think thats telling in its own right.

His posts are scummy.

He has been on all the biggest wagons:
Glitch, Fwesnid, Titus, myself.
His intent looks like its to get any miskick.

[72offsuit]

Out of the two i think 72 is definiteky townier than Titus. And i never was a fan of Titus stating they just wanted a flip so they could do VCA later.
Whenever a slot makes excuses to not be playing seriously on D1 it’s always iffy.

I hate this post. It feels like scum trying to narrow down focus exclusively to just titus and my wagons.

[72offsuit]

like maybe it's late for you but the whole point of those two posts is that 72 is telling you that you're on a dead wagon and you should consolidate but then

two

three posts before that one, 72 is then wondering why his vote, which is still on ISK, isn't gaining any traction as if there's nothing else going on at the moment

i think you've done this multiple times with my posts too though which is why i'm weirded out. i'm still pretty sure you flip town here but cmon, head in the game

I really dont understand the resistance to the IKSF wagon.
I think thats telling in its own right.

His posts are scummy.

He has been on all the biggest wagons:
Glitch, Fwesnid, Titus, myself.
His intent looks like its to get any miskick.

72 comments in 2467 that ISK is scummy and that he isn't sure why the wagon isn't going up

three posts later (originally said 2 but that's a clear error)

best page top ever?

2 days to deadline and your vote is solo on a dead wagon.

we get this which means that he's aware of the situation and almost psuedo-grandstanding at this point about ISK which is also a dead wagon

it doesn't smell like townie thinking to me man

Nice try at shading me. Titus also had no wagon and look where they are at now. Your argument is garbage.

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also if i have to pick btwn the two top wagons right now i'll vote 72. the people on that wagon seem like townier folk

Zero reasoning.

[72offsuit]

Hey 72 what was the game we played together?

We played a Hard Boiled Eggs (Psychologist etc)

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also what do you think abt the speed that the titus wagon grew?

Its end of day and questioning speed of wagon when town needs to coordinate enough votes to ensure a kick is scummy. Lack of ISO on leading wagons.

Dont get any town vibes from Yd's entry.

Prefer Yd over Titus over Norwe.

VOTE: Yddrase

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also if i have to pick btwn the two top wagons right now i'll vote 72.

the people on that wagon seem like townier folk

Zero reasoning.

Are you flailing? Although I admit it isn't the strongest argument ever known to mankind, it's still a reasoning, and missing it in a post that has TWO SENTENCES is

Hasnt even read through the game and ISOed players, how would Ydd have developed town reads well enough to use that as basis of their vote .

[72offsuit]

Thats not townie mondset reasoning from a player who has just subbed in

[72offsuit]

ugh.

His point is that you were sitting on a vanity wagon while calling me out on unintentionally stitting on a vanity wagon. I say unintentionally b/c there was a a50 wagon so @ the time I voted it was NOT a vanity vote. Its a decent point. However, I still feel like the words Hiraki choose to communicate that were dumb.

I wasnt calling you out, i think you are town and wanted you to put your vote to use

[72offsuit]

Sigh, I'm surprised Titus made it this far with the antics from day one

[72offsuit]

ggwp scum

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72offsuit

(11):

SJReaver

, Almost50, Hiraki,

Titus

, town looter,

I Keep Siteflaking

, superbowl9, Ydrasse, NoPowerOverMe,

JacksonVirgo

, Pickaxe Pete (ELIMINATION!)
Titus (2):Fwesnid, Nero Cain
Ydrasse (2): NorwegianboyEE, 72offsuit
NorwegianboyEE (2): Glitch,

Dr Dolittle

DrDolittle(1): ralph217
Fwesnid (1): Marshmallow Marshall

Not Voting (2): stan1ey, Bell

Garbage wagon = scum wagon

[72offsuit]

Titus voting IKSF. I join IKSF wagon. I press for an IKSF kick. Titus then switches off their scumbuddy onto me. I get absolutely dogpiled after I pushed hard against IKSF.