The main condition is me being the most popular player.
This isn't quite as broken as it sounds because there IS a second condition, but for obvious reasons, that condition is best left unclaimed so that the pun don't know when I can/cannot be shot.
Since the evidence is already there for those who care to look, I should clarify I am not in factIn post 51, Chara wrote:regarding Cheet's roleclaim
You've played with me? This is news to me.In post 37, TehBrawlGuy wrote:anyway help me sort the bolded players who I haven't played with in a while/ever
3. Punreader
No, not really. It's a fine starting point of discussion regardless of alignment.In post 26, Espeonage wrote:This early, with the aim to increase public knowledge, yeah. It's town points.
Sure, but the results of the night will haunt them for the rest of the game.In post 11, Shoshin wrote:Scum'll probably lie either way, though.
Odd, I've always found it a bit strange when someoneIn post 56, DeasVail wrote:I always find it a bit strange when someone disagrees with a townread on them.In post 55, Punreader wrote:No, not really. It's a fine starting point of discussion regardless of alignment.
There's no need to claim what my signature reveals already.In post 99, Chara wrote:i thought Punreader was claiming to be an alt.
You should be off of what I claimed, yes. It's not exactly a town-sounding set of abilities. I promise you that if I fullclaimed, you would feel much better about my slot. You would also wish I had kept my mouth shut and left it at the partial claim.In post 134, PenguinPower wrote:I'm actually a bit concerned about "punreader".
I fail to see why. The player with the most experience with themselves will always be...themselves. I would be quite concerned if I couldn't confidently state the reasoning was flawed given the subject was myself.In post 58, DeasVail wrote:The confidence in the fact that the reasoning is flawed is the strange part.
There is an answer to this which would reveal why it is not nearly as town as you are assuming.In post 80, Taly wrote:Mmm... I don't see scum-motivation here. There's no normal roles in this game, to my understanding, so why wouldPunlie here?
And if he's scum WITH a BP, then there's probably a mechanical or role reason for this. In which case,Punis actively sacrificing his role info., in the effect of getting a reaction from townies, possibly to give info.
Indirectly, yes. I'm still deciding at what time I'll reveal them. I can feasibly do it at any time, even during the night. (Role perk; yes this is a softclaim. I have Cheetory, theIn post 80, Taly wrote:Has that discussion helped you form reads?
I will neutralize this problem before the start of next week. (Before Monday.)In post 121, Taly wrote:Too many people are playing null right now. It's a bit hard to conjure reads.
It is specifically because it was done without more information it's not odd. Bulletproof is normally a power you seek to conceal, but the specific nature of my role makes it harmless, even beneficial, to half-claim it.In post 284, PenguinPower wrote:I find it odd to without more information.
Actually this is me explicitly dicking around. When you see me trulyIn post 282, Taly wrote:3)When he's present, he engages with multiple people at once, drawing focus onto himself.
I'll be doing similar within 72 hours. I'm still hoping for something I've yet to see manifest, which will impact my reads.In post 182, DeasVail wrote:I think it's time for me to be a little less passive in how I approach things here.
This is another reason I've been stalling on posting my reads because I generate reads before I generate explanations. (It's one of the main habits I'm using this account to break.)In post 277, Taly wrote:Your reads have no explanation, so I can't follow them that well.
It is far from a surefire thing given I have limited experience with both players, but from what I know this is fairly standard Taly play and not what I'd expect from PenguinPower if he were town. This would not be something I'd state with any level of true confidence, but it has enough where I'll back your sentiment.In post 285, TehBrawlGuy wrote:PP's last post makes me feel that PP v Taly is not TvT. Dunno which one is the Scum yet, though. I'll catch that on re-read.
Wanted to come back to this and say: I am doing a reads compilation, and am rereading the thread to look for any aspects I've missed. You probably won't be impressed by the posted list (it's not special), but I intend to post theIn post 173, the worst wrote:yeah nothing by Punreader has impressed me
Reads-wise, my reads are lining up with quite a number of individuals, actually. This is why I said my reads list won't be anything special; there shouldn't be any real surprises in there. The reasons (which I'll do tomorrow) are what will make it interesting.In post 232, Taly wrote:Before I get to replies, is ANYONE on the same page in this game?
Full version is coming, but the basic version is two factors.In post 381, Chara wrote:punreader, i can't wait for why i'm a perfect ten.
PenguinPower and Pine as your zeros. You won't regret it. Unless you're their teammate.In post 406, MariaR wrote:need to fill in the blanks I see
Agreed.In post 411, TehBrawlGuy wrote:VOTE: pp
I buy the claim, I just think he's lying about the alignment of it. That's a straight-on perfect Scum role.
Chara, the short version is above. Pine, the short version is that this is Pine transparently being a punfuck. I am intimately familiar with his meta as both alignments and I guarantee you his contribution this game is him as pun. I can cite multiple behavioral tells to this effect, from what content he is giving, what reads he has given, to the ways he has given it and I will do precisely that in the full version. He had no clue he was playing withIn post 467, DeasVail wrote:Hi Punreader. This reads list was pretty similar to where I was at that point in the game. Main exceptions are Chara's high placement (they're probably only a weak townread for me right now) and Pine being so low. So I'd be pretty interested in explanations of those.
Most commonly, yes. It has other uses, but that is the main one.In post 526, Nahdia wrote:@Punreader when you say pun do you mean scum..?
Since then, PenguinPower has become a zero, but I will detail that later; otherwise, this remains unchanged and is my reference point.In post 370, Punreader wrote:TOWNIE TENS:
Chara
EAGER EIGHTS:
Taly
Dunnstral
Nahdia/ActionDan
SOLID SIXES:
Shoshin
MariaR
Espeonage
FINICKY FIVES:
the worst
Fire Assassin
DeasVail
Vaxkiller
UNFORTUNATE FOURS:
NicoRobin
ReubenWasFine
IN-BETWEEN THREES:
Srceenplay
TERRIBLE TWOS:
TehBrawlGuy
PenguinPower
ZOMBIFY THESE ZEROES:
Pine/TwoInAMillion
Continuing on:In post 534, Punreader wrote:Starting point:In post 370, Punreader wrote:FINICKY FIVES:
DeasVail
Vaxkiller
UNFORTUNATE FOURS:
NicoRobin
ReubenWasFine
IN-BETWEEN THREES:
Srceenplay
TERRIBLE TWOS:
TehBrawlGuy
PenguinPower
ZOMBIFY THESE ZEROES:
Pine/TwoInAMillion
In post 473, Punreader wrote: PenguinPower had an incredibly town entrance, which was natural; there was absolutely nothing artificial or fake in his opening. This earned him the spot as my penultimate townread. Since then, there has been a perfect blend of being lighthearted and scumhunting; he's neither fluff posted nor been super serious. That is exactly what I would expect of him as town. Pending some major change, my townread there is never shifting its strength.
Except this game, just invert it; PenguinPower's entrance this game was incredibly stilted. His posting this game has been entirely super-serious; he is altogether missing the lighthearted aspect. His focus has been too much on mechanics and not enough on punhunting. Add in that the role he claimed is literally a pun role, and he is a solid punread.In post 964, Punreader wrote:I provided my reasoning.In post 892, PenguinPower wrote:I have no feelings on Titus right now. I am very skeptical of people who town read me D1 (outside a very small set of players), especially when they don't provide a reason as to why they town read me when asked.This still holds. I am quite positive you have been scumhunting and you yourself know that to be true. If you want me to point out the more 'lighthearted' content, I can.In post 473, Punreader wrote:I already did; you should have paid attention the first time.In post 456, Jingle wrote:I'll bite the bait though, tell me about this PP read.PenguinPower had an incredibly town entrance, which was natural; there was absolutely nothing artificial or fake in his opening. This earned him the spot as my penultimate townread. Since then, there has been a perfect blend of being lighthearted and scumhunting; he's neither fluff posted nor been super serious. That is exactly what I would expect of him as town. Pending some major change, my townread there is never shifting its strength.In post 294, Punreader wrote:Power to you, my friend. I believe you have no place in a penitentiary.In post 28, PenguinPower wrote:Yea, but...I'm policy lynching...uh....
The way Pine gave his content was in his posting gimmick. Pine was giving his reads through the "hey Errant got really drunk and slipped in discord..." method. The mod may have told him to stop, but without the mod intervening there, he would have continued to use that gimmick for the whole game.In post 525, Punreader wrote:Pine, the short version is that this is Pine transparently being a punfuck. I am intimately familiar with his meta as both alignments and I guarantee you his contribution this game is him as pun. I can cite multiple behavioral tells to this effect, from what content he is giving, what reads he has given, to the ways he has given it and I will do precisely that in the full version. He had no clue he was playing with, so he didn't properly hide his tells that give him away to me.me
That role sure WOULD be perfect for 3p, but unfortunately for your attempted narrative, it is not the role I claimed.In post 672, Pine wrote:Protected from people below them, kills people ranked higher. That screams “self-aligned” to me.
I’m not opposed to leashing it.
Do you want me to do a Post By Post Analysis of Vaxkiller to prove what I mean? I kid you not, I can and will do it to showIn post 567, Shoshin wrote:This "rollercoaster from a six to a four to a five" feels fake.In post 552, Punreader wrote:Vaxkiller: Vaxkiller also has gone on a rollercoaster in my reads, from a six to a four before I settled on five. To some extent, he Vaxes me; I don't have a reliable way of reading his contribution. However, some of his pushes, while containing some...questionable...reasoning, look like they are genuinely going in the right direction. Not a killer-strong read, but enough that I want to keep him in the game longer.
Your mistake is in thinking it's aIn post 568, Shoshin wrote:I also don't like how Pun's rankings -- 10, 8, 8, 8, 6, 6, 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 4, 3, 2, 2, 0 -- don't match up to the actual rankings -- 10, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 6, 5, 5, 4, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, 0, 0 -- seems like a very unnatural way to think about the game if you're actually trying to sort reads into a meaningful rankings list.
If it were bullshit as you say, then you'd be able to explain why it was bullshit. You're not as incompetent/lackluster as you are pretending to be.In post 554, Srceenplay wrote:I’m not sure who you are but this is bullshit. You have went way down on my list.In post 552, Punreader wrote:Screenplay: Screenplay's contribution this game on the other hand have been somewhat indicative of pun. He is also fairly lackluster, but the difference is I have the experience with him to know that if he were town he shouldn't be. None of his contributions in this game have been even remotely endearing, and yet I've seen plenty of content sending up red flags, as early as 106. 108 was hollow as well, with no purpose behind it. His reads such as in 177 are opposite what they should be, and he is someone who I respect as a punhunter. Being on vacation feels like more of an excuse than anything else; he is posting plenty, he is reading everything (both of these are self-evident if you look at his iso), and yet in spite of this he is doing virtually nothing.
I very strongly do not think a lack of votes justifies being stilted. It is an excuse for slacking off, nothing more, especially given that the mod announced from the onset a willingness to track the votes even though they hold no weight. Check the timing for yourself. That is Errantparabola's first votecount; the precedence for voting had already been established.In post 555, Nahdia wrote:I think their being stilted is pretty well excused by there being no votes. I think their progression towards and the way they claimed came off as town.
Vaxkiller, I realize English is not your first language, but perhaps you should look up the idiomatic expression like a roller coaster.In post 631, Vaxkiller wrote:Workin my way backwards, but yeah this confuses me as well. I'm a roller coaster but i Vex him, I push some, but something i do are questionable.. I look genuine, but not a strong read. I mean it dont get more wishy washy than that.In post 567, Shoshin wrote:This "rollercoaster from a six to a four to a five" feels fake.In post 552, Punreader wrote:Vaxkiller: Vaxkiller also has gone on a rollercoaster in my reads, from a six to a four before I settled on five. To some extent, he Vaxes me; I don't have a reliable way of reading his contribution. However, some of his pushes, while containing some...questionable...reasoning, look like they are genuinely going in the right direction. Not a killer-strong read, but enough that I want to keep him in the game longer.
I already outlined it. Pine's team this game has some reasonable distancing, but is largely playing the same game: lackluster posting, lurking, and not contributing much. Giving the bare minimum to pass by, not drawing attention. Letting the active posters duke it out in town V town fighting, and subtly supporting this from the background. Focusing on mechanics talk rather than punhunting, for cheap towncred while avoiding giving hard stances that are difficult to back out of.In post 662, Chara wrote:i want to say Pine is scum, but i'm finding it difficult to rationalize what scum Pine's plan is this game, at all.
I internally had a nice laugh, andIn post 683, TehBrawlGuy wrote:pun what did you think about me accidentally shitposting half your role lmao
No, but my abilities bear relevancy to this, as I indicated earlier. The flavor for my role indicates that I am the absolute best.In post 674, Pine wrote:PR is Cheetory. It’s entirely possible he simply wins if he’s ever on top.
Early on? Bad strategy. Do you agree that I am EITHER: 3p OR: town?In post 676, Shoshin wrote:The combination of vig/bp feels like third party but it's tough to say either way. Probably worth investigating.
No, the reason I can't kill N1 is altogether different and should be stupidly obvious.In post 681, TehBrawlGuy wrote:He's leashed now that he's claimed, and in the event he's Town he'll either draw a RB every night or see some use, and both are beneficial. The sudden addition of a no N1 modifier is kind of weird, but actually makes a lot of sense given that we have an extra death today because of rankings.
Immensely so, and it is proof of the concept I am referring to.In post 673, Dunnstral wrote:Pine is scummy on this page
This is a fine narrative but one which fails to live up to reality.In post 700, PenguinPower wrote:I'm certain that he half claimed, then admitted to lying about his claim, then added a N1 modifier after being asked to vig me.
No, you claim you are but you're not. You explain things better than you are pretending. Furthermore, you actuallyIn post 705, Srceenplay wrote:That’s bull shit as well because you would know that I am incompetent at explaining.In post 703, Punreader wrote:If it were bullshit as you say, then you'd be able to explain why it was bullshit. You're not as incompetent/lackluster as you are pretending to be.
Another way of stating this:In post 711, Punreader wrote:No, you claim you are but you're not. You explain things better than you are pretending. Furthermore, you actuallyIn post 705, Srceenplay wrote:That’s bull shit as well because you would know that I am incompetent at explaining.In post 703, Punreader wrote:If it were bullshit as you say, then you'd be able to explain why it was bullshit. You're not as incompetent/lackluster as you are pretending to be.tryto explain things. You don't leave things as empty statements; you still explain in spite of the "incompetence" at explaining.
I know this in part because I have a similar perspective as pun; I underestimate my own competency as town and pretend I am a worse town player than I actually am, andthisis what I am saying you are doing. You are stating you are incompetent when I know for a fact you are not actually that incompetent. You likely have a self-perception you're not that incompetent, and thus as pun you "mute" your own competency.
Perhaps I am not explaining this as well as I should, but I feel my message gets across. There is a disconnect between the level of skill I have witnessed from you when you've been town, and the level of skill you are displaying in this game. That disconnect most likely originates from a perception of "I'm not a good town player, so I need to pretend I'm not a good player", leading to you as pun being less competent than you should be.
In post 713, Vaxkiller wrote:Dude, did you ride that new roller coaster?In post 706, Punreader wrote:Meant to include this, but accidentally omitted it:Vaxkiller, I realize English is not your first language, but perhaps you should look up the idiomatic expression like a roller coaster.In post 631, Vaxkiller wrote:Workin my way backwards, but yeah this confuses me as well. I'm a roller coaster but i Vex him, I push some, but something i do are questionable.. I look genuine, but not a strong read. I mean it dont get more wishy washy than that.In post 567, Shoshin wrote:This "rollercoaster from a six to a four to a five" feels fake.In post 552, Punreader wrote:Vaxkiller: Vaxkiller also has gone on a rollercoaster in my reads, from a six to a four before I settled on five. To some extent, he Vaxes me; I don't have a reliable way of reading his contribution. However, some of his pushes, while containing some...questionable...reasoning, look like they are genuinely going in the right direction. Not a killer-strong read, but enough that I want to keep him in the game longer.
"Wishy-washy" isprecisely the definition of the expression.
Yes you have gone up, yes you have gone down. Yes, you have things I like, yes you have things I don't like. That is precisely what I said my read on you was: uncertain, varying, constantly changing and shifting.
Yeah, man, It was totally wishy washy.
roll·er coast·er
ˈˌrōlər ˈkōstər/Submit
noun
noun: rollercoaster
a thing that contains or goes through wild and unpredictable changes.
"a terrific roller coaster of a book"
Literally, not figuratively, LITERALLY the same.Urban Dictionary wrote:Wishy Washy
Someone who can't make up there mind. Says they will do something, then don't...Or gives an opinion about how they feel and changes it later.
He said he wanted to break up with his girlfriend. Then the next day he didn't want to break up with his girlfriend. He is so wishy washy.
They are actually important if youIn post 718, Nahdia wrote:Holy crap are punreader's posts actually important or can I just like... do some skimming?
Yes, precisely. Pine as town is usually more opinionated. He came in to this game as a replacement (displaying a clear desire to PLAY the game because he wouldn't have offered to replace in otherwise), and yet in spite of that you can count the number of stances he's taken on a single hand.In post 717, Vaxkiller wrote:Your usually more opinionated... but i ... have missed some.
I'll make it easy and do three separate posts, one for each point, behind a spoiler tag as to not literally double my iso length. Here, lemme show you.In post 721, Punreader wrote:They are actually important if youIn post 718, Nahdia wrote:Holy crap are punreader's posts actually important or can I just like... do some skimming?But I suppose if that doesn't interest you, then no, they aren't.
- Want to have any understanding of my role
- Want to have an understanding of my stances
- Want to actually win the game potentially as early as D2
So there's my role and how you can understand it. My process, start to finish, and what it is exactly.In post 709, Punreader wrote:I indicated from the onset that I was not claiming fully. I said from the beginning that my bulletproof was not as strong as indicated. I said there was a second condition. I said I wasn't claiming fully. I said that if I claimed fully, it would make sense, but that it would be detrimental for me to have done so. I laid this all out at the beginning; I was quite clear about the nature of my claim.
When I claimed my actual role, I outlined the nature of it. I made no such claim about having that modifier. I stated that I couldn't vig N1, not that I had a modifier stating I can't vig, because my role PM doesn't indicate it at all; it is simply self-evident from the nature of the claim. My vig works off of ranking. I can't vig someone when we don't have a ranking. Ranking is done N1. Thus, I cannot vig N1.
Then you should rate Pine 0 and give a low rating to Screenplay.In post 724, Nahdia wrote:i feel like scum is lurking pretty hard rn.
Pine has a long history of a particular tactic.
The problem with that is you aren't actually unfazed as town, even when you know the accusation to be wrong. You get emotional and react negatively to what you see as being bullshit.In post 738, Pine wrote:You're quite right! It is a favored tactic. I like it because it mirrors when I am actually unfazed.In post 733, Punreader wrote:I'd additionally like to point out:Pine has a long history of a particular tactic.
When Pine has any sort of "oh fuck" realization, his response to this is to doexactly thisand present a nonchalant response in an attempted to appear unfazed by the outcome. It's his first self-defense mechanism to being caught red-handed.
Actually, that was my plan until just now. I'll have to shoot someone else now.In post 745, TehBrawlGuy wrote:Pun, I know you scumread me, but I s2g if you shoot me tonight after I reminded you you can shoot... It would be hilarious, true, but also I would hate you.
This would be one of the reasons that the players using that one mechanic as an excuse to do nothing (namely, PenguinPower and Pine) are pun.In post 745, TehBrawlGuy wrote:I get that apparently the thread has something against mechanics, but holy shit you guys, there's one major difference between this and a standard game. How hard is it to keep track of thatone thing?
...Is an invalid reason to townread him. There is no justification for chilling becauseIn post 748, TehBrawlGuy wrote:I really don't get Pine being pretty low on rankings. I weakly townread him. Most of his content is NAI and what there is seems to me like a townie who's just chilling waiting for the game to progress.
Serious question.
Only if in doing so your read on me is a rollercoaster.In post 771, Srceenplay wrote:Can I not like and like pun at the same time?
The difference is you're half-coasting but still contributing.In post 777, the worst wrote:agree TBG wrt Pine. I'm basically half coasting this phase as well so hard to h8
Wrong. Pushing for the votes of me as a zero combined with third party talk/serial killer discussion shows some level of malice. Then, refusing to give stances on players in addition to the zero-vote-push/mechanics-talk shows the agenda.In post 784, the worst wrote:and he's very clearly not pushing a malicious agenda.
If you had then you'd be sheeping me in regards to Pine.In post 784, the worst wrote:BTW do you think it's likely I've correctly identified who you are?
And yet the moderator is still tracking votes as if there were traditional wagons/voting. If the moderator were not providing that service, this would be more of a valid point, but heIn post 794, TehBrawlGuy wrote:I think you draw a couple of wrong conclusions here. First off, although there's only one mechanical change, that doesn't mean the ramifications of it on the gamestate are simple. It means, among other things, that it's a lot harder to really be engaged in D1 because there aren't traditional wagons/voting.
The problem with this is that PineIn post 794, TehBrawlGuy wrote:Second off, you assume that I wouldn't give this a pass on a normal D1 anyway. You are correct that by my logic, I think it's AntiTown to not contribute, but I don't think it's necessarily ProScum.
Basically, I don't think Pine's pretending the game's not in progress. I think he's chilling, waiting for more progress before he feels like contributing
In post 876, Espeonage wrote:Dunn won the bet anyway.In post 872, TehBrawlGuy wrote:Because I'm a nerd about data, here's a good way to look at mine. You can sort by player#, ranking#, and order I assigned the rankings. Look at my rankings!
I realize now that I fucked up and ranked espe/dunn against each other for their roles instead of vax/fire, so whoops.
Pardon me for seeming egotistical, but I feel the most likely answer is simply that the pun sent a player they thought was ranked below me to nightkill me, yet it failed because the rankings were not as they thought.In post 871, the worst wrote:Is it worth protectives or roleblockers claiming actions here? I'd be surprised if Pine was the scum NK too.
Why wouldn't I?In post 893, Vaxkiller wrote:WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SHOOT PINE.
My ranking is higher than his, apparently. You also apparently need to read my posts given you would not be asking this had you done so.In post 893, Vaxkiller wrote:HOW did you shoot pine? You claiming vig?
Considering I wrote what I felt was a fairly strong case on Pine, this should not surprise you.In post 900, Vaxkiller wrote:Cmon, were people scum reading pine yesterday?
Plenty of experience inIn post 903, the worst wrote:I believe pine has sound experience in reading pun's main.
Your memory is flawed.In post 903, the worst wrote: furthermore I don't think pun made any effort to engage with pine d1. if memory serves they talked around his responses and told me I should sheep them.
You may note that is well over half of my iso devoted entirely towards pushing Pine.In post 730, Punreader wrote:That's the most important takeaways from my content.Spoiler: Understanding of my Stances
Yes.In post 912, Vaxkiller wrote:Pun, did you keep a document of you reads or something?
TheIn post 370, Punreader wrote:TOWNIE TENS:
Chara
EAGER EIGHTS:
Taly
Dunnstral
ActionDan
SOLID SIXES:
Shoshin
MariaR
Espeonage
FINICKY FIVES:
the worst
Fire Assassin
DeasVail
Vaxkiller
UNFORTUNATE FOURS:
NicoRobin
ReubenWasFine
IN-BETWEEN THREES:
Srceenplay
TERRIBLE TWOS:
TehBrawlGuy
PenguinPower
ZOMBIFY THESE ZEROES:
Pine/TwoInAMillion
I told you on D1 that I was going to vig a punread of mine.In post 928, Taly wrote:I want to hear more rankings and thatPine-vig explanation fromPunbefore I extend this.
In post 1147, Fire Assassin wrote:I am a ranking cop.
If I rank higher than the person I am checking I will get the results I should get if I was a normal cop
If I am lower I get the opposite of what I should get
Right, so you just cop cleared Espeonage then; your result indicates he is town. You're ranked lower than him, so your mafia result is the opposite of what you should get.
I can help you with that.In post 1270, the worst wrote:how is PP obvscum
In post 730, Punreader wrote:That's the most important takeaways from my content.Spoiler: Understanding of my Stances
I included the math in the spoiler.In post 1317, the worst wrote:Idk how to calculate your average exactly though.
I could see any combination of town-town, pun-pun, town-pun, or pun-town as possible. I can tell you on play I am not punreading MariaR, which would make it slightly more likely it's town-town or pun-town, but this is not locked in. Regardless of their alignment, however, correct play is to let both live and gather more results.
People seem to think that just because players have posted, the information from those new posts should always change a read. While that is certainly true of certain circumstances, you would be sorely mistaken if you thought that the content we have seen generated would shift any of my reads significantly as 90% of it is what I'd define as worthless.
Since then, I have stated the worst is worthy of promotion to a six (light townread), but his position on the readslist doesn't shift at all even given that; he's still right between MariaR (originally Espeonage but Espeonage is promoted to ten on the grounds of being a cop innocent) and Fire Assassin.
I will compile this tomorrow and see how it alters the final scores.In post 1454, ManWithNoName wrote:10. Srceenplay
10. Taly
10. TheBrawlGuy
9. Chara
8. Shoshin
7. The Worst
6. vaxkiller
6. Dunnstral
5. Fire Assassin
5. Nahdia
4. pine
4. pun reader
3. lovebird
2. nico
1. mariar
0. deasvail
0. espe
0. PP
This sounds like a punclaim to me.In post 1455, ManWithNoName wrote:You know what, I've been thinking about it, and I cannot see a reason not to claim my role at this point.
I am Psyche, the message facilitator. During the night phase, I choose two people to get prompts to send a short message to each other along with the scores that they gave each other. Or, at least I'm pretty sure it's to each other, I'm still awaiting definite clarification on that aspect.
Both the people chosen by Screenplay last night are still alive, and I would have probably gone with one who was more likely to be voted out and one who was unlikely to be voted out, but that's just me.
We know the rankings given are fairly accurate to the scores we know; as a result, it can be deduced players were almost certainly honest about their rankings.In post 1456, TehBrawlGuy wrote:It would almost definitely fail if I were mafia and boosted by my teammates.
Quite the opposite to me.In post 1467, Shoshin wrote:Screen's rankings feel pretty townie to me.
Speaking as a player who specializes in turning punread town slots into strong townreads.In post 1485, Taly wrote:On second thought, I don't want another replacement to muddy the waters here.
VOTE: Nahdia
It happens.In post 1554, the worst wrote:I think im suffering from Too Many Townreads actually
I can answer this, but it will be without any semblance of tact or diplomacy:In post 1526, Taly wrote:And speaking as a player who's lost town games before due to waffling over scum-slots that have had 2+ replacements in themIn post 1517, Punreader wrote:Speaking as a player who specializes in turning punread town slots into strong townreads. I do. Especially when the Nahdia wagon reeks of being a pun counterwagon to the PenguinPower wagon.In post 1485, Taly wrote:On second thought, I don't want another replacement to muddy the waters here.
VOTE: Nahdia
I'd rather not.
But if you have a case for that slot or reason why we should wait, then I want to hear it. Plus, I don't get your scumread onMNWW.
This is easily shown to be site-wide, and you'll be seeing another such disappearance this weekend. This is indicative not of my alignment but of my life. Those disappearances are not strategic; they are simply me playing during the times I can play and not playing during the times I cannot.In post 1640, Taly wrote:-Acknowledge and dislike the fact thatPunshits out a bunch of content only to disappear for the next 2-3 days
Chara, are you aware of who Commander Shepherd's main is? I know who he is and I can tell you this is par for the course.In post 1627, Chara wrote:side note: Maria may have been right about Nahdia. sorry Shepard. if you're town though, i promise i'll figure it out.
Suspect him all you want.
You know, this is actually the shot I had submitted until four hours prior to deadline, but to explain why I didn't, you have to first understand:In post 1893, ManWithNoName wrote:punreader, you should just shoot me so that town can lynch a scum tomorrow rather than wasting time on me.