A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]
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well I don't think you should be trying to force yourself into instantly reading everyone.In post 94, Lady 6 wrote:I feel like I should be able to have some read on Lady 5!Anime-girl-with-blue0cat-ears by now but it is eluding me-
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Why not?In post 121, Lady 1 wrote:True but I'm not touching them in first dance for sure.
I do think Gentleman 9 could be town, and I'm not really understanding why him saying WIFOM is scummy.-
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To be fair, he probably just logged in and saw the recent setup spec which prompted the WIFOM comment. I didn't get the impression that it was his only comment on the game so far, and I do feel like you should give him room to say his thoughts.In post 139, Lady 7 wrote:
I don't see why him dodging the entire game calling it "WIFOM" and engaging in it as "pro scum".In post 126, Gentleman 4 wrote:
Why not?In post 121, Lady 1 wrote:True but I'm not touching them in first dance for sure.
I do think Gentleman 9 could be town, and I'm not really understanding why him saying WIFOM is scummy.
When you can analyze people's alignments at the time of his post.
I am not sure what you can possibly like within what he is doing. It's not like he engaged on read and said setup spec is pro town, which I'd view as a perfectly acceptable approach.
It's him using WIFOM to write off the entire game is what I am actively against.-
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You asked why you were obv town and I thought that was a good question.In post 152, Lady 3 wrote:? What are you agreeing with?-
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I can dance with you!In post 160, Lady 6 wrote:like right now I wish soccer player and misty had fallen in love
I should start a matchmaking service-
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I think if a wolf got townread early because of a strong entrance, the other wolves would also probably join in on the consensus of townreading their wolf buddy.In post 158, Lady 1 wrote:Apparently it was a joke but if everyone sheeped and called 1 person town I figured wolves was either TMIing or they were really town since it's unlikely wolves to just be auto towncred-
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I think it's better for town to be paired with town. Mafia only have one kill after all.In post 171, Gentleman 9 wrote:for real though I have some people saying that optimal play is town should be paired with town and some people saying optimal play is scum should be paired with town and thats getting me confused.
Pairing with someone just for the purpose of leaving the dance because you think they are scum doesn't seem smart to me.-
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What about her prompted you to ISO her? Did 89 come before or after you decided to ISO her?In post 196, Lady 1 wrote:
the second optionIn post 192, Lady 2 wrote:So did you have a read on me before ISOing me, or was the ISO done in an attempt to form the read?-
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This could also mean your reads are right.In post 206, Lady 1 wrote:Oh no how can I pretend to have the best reads if everyone pushes back against me. This is horrible
Ok. There are eight ladies, so you will get a dance 99.99% of the time.In post 208, Lady 1 wrote:She is the lady directly below me. My biggest competition. It was after the iso
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Yeah, I was thinking this too.In post 246, Lady 2 wrote:It is blatantly LAMIST. Doesn't make it scummy.
I am pretty serious in general, and I don't think that correlates into being a strong player.-
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Bye OG G6.
The idea of nicknames isn’t very appealing to me. I do have some trouble with the generic lady/gent names, but I think I’m associating posts to avatar instead of username which helps.
In post 280, Gentleman 1 wrote:Why? I think scum are more likely to lolpropose and accept, given they just don't want to die.This sequence is townie to me.
With regard to the pair, it’s fine for me. Also, I do not think L7 will instantly accept this given her reaction to the L3/G9 pair.-
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This is WIFOM.In post 282, Lady 3 wrote:Okay, but also I think scum would be more likely to try look like they were forming reads and had a “reason” for their invitation?-
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I don’t think he was throwing shade in 280 if that’s what you’re talking about. Seems to be more genuine discussion question than shade even if he was probably referencing you.In post 295, Gentleman 9 wrote:anyhow, i dont particularly like that sans.g1 is throwing indirect shade at me despite the pairing has already made.
Plus, I don’t think L3 is really buying it in the case that it was supposed to be shade.-
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@g9 That is a fair take. I can see what you mean about G1(Sans) setting you up.
The thing is: it feels pretty consistent with how he thinks. It seems like he has different views on most things than what most of us do. For example, if you look at 16, it's a bit of a weird question: he's asking how scum would pocket an IC. Most of us would think that the answer is pretty obvious like L5 in 18. This gave me the initial impression of him thinking differently.
Now back to present, I feel like his take about scum lolproposing in 280 is pretty unconventional and most people would think that scum would be more cautious in proposing who they dance with. Based on my theory, I think he was asking the question in good faith and genuinely wanted to know the answer instead of trying to set you up. Maybe he is thinking you are scummy, but I don't think he is going about that read in a scummy way.-
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I don't like where this is going...In post 319, Lady 3 wrote:promise you won’t laugh..?-
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I don't think we should consider G6's final post as alignment indicative. Angleshooting tends to backfire in general.
I can see why mafia wouldn't pair with the IC, but why do you think they would pair up as opposed to pairing with town?In post 345, Gentleman 5 wrote:
You're right, based on this information they may decide to try to pair up and then kill the ic at nightIn post 127, Gentleman 9 wrote:the wide range of things to analyze is bad it gives scum direction to play
I don't have a read on G5 yet, and it's interesting that he's decided to shoot his shot so quickly. Are you fully caught up now?-
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Both Lady 7 and Lady 8 wanted to dance with G1 iirc.In post 359, Gentleman 3 wrote:
Yes, instead of asking/accepting someone who was already willing, he asked someone who he's trying to read.In post 357, Gentleman 5 wrote:Is it only because he asked Lady 7?-
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wdym by future prospects? You, L8, and L1 are all townread to some extent, so I'm not sure what you're getting at here.In post 371, Lady 7 wrote:As scum wouldn't you want to pick your partner on future prospects not how townie they are now?
So to some degree I think scum would like to pair with someone like me, Lady 8, Lady 1.cry.
Emotionally invested players that are likely to put up a fight for the entire duration of the game.
So a more medium invested mid poster who is being widely town read could end up being a worse pairing long term.
I just think L8.Ghost is a clear partner scum would want to pair up with.
Also, L8 seems to be somewhat emotional based because she seems pretty nervous about who she's dancing with, so I don't think she fits into the "medium invested mid poster" category you are describing.-
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I think the general thread consensus is that she is town. I am inclined to believe this based on how she seems to be feeling about dancing with someone.In post 376, Gentleman 5 wrote:Or am I mistaken? I don't remember other people talking about Lady 8, but Gent 4 just said that she was being townread-
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I’m intrigued. Let’s discuss.In post 443, Lady 1 wrote:I already have my 3 pairings I want in end game can I get a gg-
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Well the IC doesn’t make it to end game. I still sorta want to be with L6, but that could change. I still have no read on L4, so what makes you think she’s town so far? I do think G5 has been townie since he started posting. Why did you leave out the L7/G1 pair?In post 450, Lady 1 wrote:
You/meIn post 447, Gentleman 4 wrote:
I’m intrigued. Let’s discuss.In post 443, Lady 1 wrote:I already have my 3 pairings I want in end game can I get a gg
Lady 8/IC
Lady 4/Gent 5.
Thoughts?
Also, not sure if I townread you atm.-
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Well that was quick.
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Why the pt compared to the game thread?In post 465, Lady 1 wrote:You'll townread me when you see me in the pt.-
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This isn't a bad idea. It probably is a bad idea to pair you with a scummy slot, so I'm fine with this.In post 483, Gentleman 8 wrote:a better idea is for me to get a town read on someone that others aren't heavily town reading and pair with them
I wasn't getting the scummy vibes either.In post 486, Lady 6 wrote:G5 can you describe why these posts read tonally scummy to you? I'm not getting that part of your progression because I don't think I changed the way I was posting and my opinions stayed mostly the same.
To be honest, I wouldn't think of myself as a challenging sort. Although many people would probably disagree. Still leaning towards pairing with you though!In post 489, Lady 6 wrote:also I lowkey selfishly want gent 4 because I think he's a very challenging sort and that sounds fun
What warning?In post 490, Lady 1 wrote:You can take gent 4 if you want. But remember my warning-
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How do you feel about G9/L3 atm?In post 503, Lady 7 wrote:This is what I am imagining right now as the pairs I like.-
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Why are you not paranoid of L3 and L8 like you seem to be with everyone else?In post 508, Lady 7 wrote:L3.Misty is basically conf town.-
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Bold to assume you're townread.In post 516, Lady 1 wrote:I want someone to have paranoia about me-
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Idk about ghosty because I now think that it is easy to fake paranoia about dance partners as scum, and a big reason why I was townreading here was because of how she was concerned about the dance.
With you, I will look at your iso at some point. You're probably town, but it's not as confident as the 5 I listed.-
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I’m more in the middle. It’s easy to complain about things.In post 609, Gentleman 2 wrote:I think Earth lady is town
Ok, but why?In post 612, Gentleman 2 wrote:Pardon, majesty. It's just my advice to evict Gentleman 4.-
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I liked her progression on L1.In post 574, Lady 4 wrote:Can both of you talk about Rosalina 2 because that's my strongest SR rn-
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In post 625, Gentleman 7 wrote:I ask Lady 6 to the dance.
Definitely the cutest, most honorable and townie looking lady.-
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Is there anything with me that you want to talk about? I'm all ears. I do remember somewhat liking your earlier posts, but your most recent posts have been neutral to me. Sorry that you feel left out though. I think it's more of a matter of people being online at the same time compared to trying to exclude someone from the conversation.In post 632, Lady 5 wrote:I liked G4 and was hoping he would talk to me
This might be personal bias, but I don't think Lady 6(Seal) should accept Gentleman 7's offer at this point.
This is a fair point, but I'm more in the camp that town should always try to pair with who they think is town compared to who they think is scum. It makes sense that the scummier people will end up having less priority in choosing their partners, but I just don't like the idea of intentionally pairing up with a scumread to end up suiciding your slot. Seems too risky.In post 637, Lady 2 wrote:I feel like the incentive should be to partner with someone who is read similarly to you. As in, if you're town but scummy enough to not make it to endgame, you would want to pair up with scum in order to redirect people's scumreads on you somewhere useful.
Aren't these the same?In post 644, Lady 2 wrote:So maybe it's less that your partner has to be read similarly to you, and more that your partner has to have an alignment that matches how you are read.
This is also a good point.In post 646, Lady 7 wrote:I guess I just have less faith in someone's ability to play relative to the group when they have their own fears in regards to someone.
This isn't answering Lady 6's question of why she should dance with you.In post 657, Gentleman 7 wrote:Just my general impressions. I'm excited to get to voting.
@Lady 4. I looked through your ISO and this is what I found about why you scumread Lady 2. I think this has been asked before, but which quotes from Lady 2 seem to be pushing a scum agenda to you? I can agree with the fluff/semi-game advancing posts, but I'm willing to look past that on my read of her for now(as many have done such a thing to some extent).In post 421, Lady 4 wrote:This post really bothered me for some reason so I went and ISOed 2 and I think I figured out why. 2 has a lot of fluffy posts and semi sort of game advancing looking posts but they all feel really surface level and scum motivated.
It would be generous to say that your posts have quality. Why do you scumread me?In post 695, Gentleman 2 wrote:Quantity is not synonym to alignment. Quality is what matters.-
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Idk. I am thinking between L6 and L2 though, and I'm not really sure who I prefer at this point.In post 704, Lady 8 wrote:Hehe. Why haven't you proposed yet? Agree though
Yes!In post 709, Lady 6 wrote:Gentleman 7, you should ask someone else to dance, I don't plan on accepting your invitation-
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Either G2 or G7 for me.In post 721, Gentleman 9 wrote:I think it's productive to discuss which of the gentlemen we want to leave behind at this point. I liked Sherlock 3s entrance and I've been town reading teenisg4. Gorilla boy g7 is my least town gentleman read at the moment.
G3(Sherlock) has given a nice first impression so I'm less inclined to want his slot out. TBH, I don't understand why he scumreads L8 so much and it's more like an argument that she isn't town.-
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Ok then. I am fine with this, but a little sad....In post 761, Lady 7 wrote:A pair I'd feel very comfortable about is G6.Seal and G3.Sherlock.-
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G6 says L1 is a type of player that he can read well.In post 792, Lady 5 wrote:Why Lady 1 and Gent 6?
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I personally don't think it is townie to randomly call someone scum with no reasoning.In post 798, Gentleman 3 wrote:
I could agree with this.In post 743, Lady 6 wrote:I would prefer Gent 7 left out over Gent 2 btw
I've been thinking about it and I think Gent 2 going after Tennis (G4) rather than searching for a partner on popping in is slightly more likely to be town than scum-
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Ok, that's fair.In post 805, Lady 6 wrote:It's more that he chose to do that over anything else when he popped in
I will be seeing how he approaches getting a partner to better read him.-
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I suspect your negative read on me may be because I am not willing to trust you. Is this right or is there more to it?In post 833, Lady 1 wrote:It's more the others are worse than you are better.
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Ok, so what have I been doing that you don't like?In post 847, Lady 1 wrote:I'm not egotistical enough to base a read because of how you view me. In fact, I can really care less how you or anyone else views me in the game. So there's more to it than that.-
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nouIn post 854, Gentleman 7 wrote:Gentleman 3, I must ask that you take a step back and reconsider your choices in life, sir.-
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Do you think being serious is townie then? As for the last sentence, I'm not sure if I will ever do something that "screams" townie.In post 857, Lady 1 wrote:If I take away the whole 'you're a serious' looking player part your iso feels pretty bland to me. I don't see anything that screams townie to me.-
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Not really...In post 867, Gentleman 6 wrote:
This is by far the spiciest take since my hot wings I had for lunch.In post 862, Gentleman 2 wrote:All I have to say is that lady Earth and Gent 6 are town and thus can be the endgaming pair
Something spicy imo would be pairing two players who are having a loud argument or just two consensus scumreads. This fits neither category.
@Lady 1. Yes, I misunderstood what you were saying. I'm just saying that I don't tend to be a particularly loud/brash player so none of my posts may be super town/scum. I would say you should look at my whole "body of work" to read me instead of just looking for towntells. You do you though.-
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In post 905, Gentleman 2 wrote:So gent 4 and gent 5 are the scum
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What do you mean by this again?In post 947, Gentleman 6 wrote:What do you think about my preferred method of using my invite?-
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I think G6 is fine with L1.In post 1001, Lady 7 wrote:Someone should ask them to dance then because I don't think anyone is.
It would be a shame if a town read got paired up with garbage.
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Welcome!In post 1022, Lady 3 wrote:Hi all. Do I have a dance partner yet? Might be nice to know while I read up.
You partner is Gentleman 9.
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