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Post #178 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:12 am
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 176, Slandaar wrote:In regards to Boo, I feel actually Sala's claim post was quite believable he wrote it too well so her change in opinion is fine. If I had to guess her alignment it would be town but she is still middle of the roadish.
I would like to have a firmer opinion on this subject myself, since that wagon is about all we have of substance from the 12-hour D1.
@Bookitty
: Can you provide the last two games you played with Salamence where you were scum and he was town? What is his basis for claiming the bolded:
In post 169, Salamence20 wrote:There is no way in hell Boo would go call my play a gambit and then vote me if she knew it was a gambit. Shes obviously playing for towncred tomorrow.
Boo as town would have just shut it and defended me to the end, thats how special we are together <3
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Post #259 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:13 pm
Postby Xisiqomelir »
@Bookitty
:
In post 179, Bookitty wrote:I have no completed games with Salamence in which I played scum.
I have only one completed game with Sala
, Dangan Ronpa Mafia, in which we were both town. He gambited in the completed game close to LYLO and claimed a town-JOAT. I lynched him there because the claim was not believable. I don't have any meta with Sala-scum.
I have no idea for the basis of that bolded claim and don't particularly agree with it. I don't understand Sala's gambits or his reasoning behind them at all.
I am in a non-mason neighborhood with Bodie & Poot. I am obviously Wallace.
Therefore, flavor-wise, I cannot be trusted.
Flavor-wise, I'm the snitch. I cannot be kept until LYLO or midgame or heck, another minute.
So lynch me now, and Bodie & Poot will be actual masons.
We have to lynch you because you have possibly scum flavour?
How is this the only play today? Assume you are clear-cut low-rises Barksdale like Stinkums instead of Wallace. Who should we suspect out of the neighbourhood from what you've read?
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Post #261 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:58 pm
Postby Xisiqomelir »
@All
: Peregrine's ISO baffles me as to why he'd be a target. There are 12 posts predicated on the idea that Salamence is scum and calling out Dan, Boo and DGB on that basis. I'm going to treat this NK as misdirection.
: I'm perturbed that this post doesn't end in a vote on me.
Alas, the mod has seen it fit to bequeath to me but a mere singular vote, a great honor best put to use in continued support of the great campaign to lay rope around Bookitty's neck.
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Post #285 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:02 am
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 281, Slandaar wrote:If there is a neighbourhood of three people and one of them who is town says 'lynch me and the other two become masons' why are the two not already masons from that townies POV?
If anyone can solve this mystery then I would love to hear from you. I have been up all night trying to work it out but quite frankly I am bamboozled.
This is where I'm at:
1) DGB is a town neighbour:
- She is self-voting, playing against wincon and risking modkill. -
Unlikely
- This is a ruse and she will call scum from interactions around her wagon later today -
Possible
2) DGB is a scum neighbour:
- She is self-voting, playing against wincon and risking modkill. -
Unlikely
3) DGB is more than just a town or scum neighbour (BBMolla theory):
- She is some sort of jester/vengeful/something and her death will benefit her faction, whatever it is -
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Post #287 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:22 am
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 286, Slandaar wrote:The point was if DGB were town she would know she doesn't need to be lynched for her neighbours to already be considered masons.
If she were town I don't see how anyone could consider the remaining neighbours masons.
I mean, it's possible, I've been part of a town which fell victim to modpranks before, where Empking put 3 "Werewolf Seers" in Discworld mafia who could night investigate for lycanthropy but no werewolves and the seers went crazy going after each other thinking they all fakeclaimed.
However, setting up an all-town masonhood as a neighbourhood seems even more anti-town than that.
In post 287, Xisiqomelir wrote:
If she were town I don't see how anyone could consider the remaining neighbours masons.
Because she would have been telling the truth?
She'd have been telling the truth about her own alignment, but "neighbourhood" implies scum. So 3 person neighbourhood minus one town does not make me think "2 masons".
In post 289, Xisiqomelir wrote:
She'd have been telling the truth about her own alignment, but "neighbourhood" implies scum. So 3 person neighbourhood minus one town does not make me think "2 masons".
DGBtown isn't going to tell us to consider them masons unless we should do.
It is quite clear cut either the PM's made it clear enough both Body and Poot are in the game or there is enough grey area that they can be fake claims in which case DGBtown would not be pushing that lynching her makes the other two neighbours masons.
Slandaar, I understand very clearly why you think she's not town-DGB (above case is impossible), while additionally I don't see anything near the level of scumhunting one would expect from Town-DGB, but I can't fathom why scum would self-vote and push their own wagon, hence my jester/etc thoughts.
In post 285, Xisiqomelir wrote:1) DGB is a town neighbour:
- She is self-voting, playing against wincon and risking modkill. - Unlikely
- This is a ruse and she will call scum from interactions around her wagon later today - Possible
I am playing for my wincon to create masons in the other two neighbors and I'm not getting modkilled.
It's not a ruse. Just vote me.
Outside the ambit of {
DrippingGoofball, Majvenmar, Gottemer
} do you have no thoughts at all about Day 2? The two fair-sized wagons? Yesterday's kill? Any of the other 14 posters?
Less analysis because you're vexed at the hydra's poststyle I could understand. A void of analysis is baffling.
In post 286, Slandaar wrote:The point was if DGB were town she would know she doesn't need to be lynched for her neighbours to already be considered masons.
As the snitch-flavored neighbor, my scum hunting is tainted. No one should pay attention to anything I say while alive. And historically no one pays attention after you're dead and flipped town (see Pikmin Mafia LOL).
Further, Gottemer and RSD should do nothing but try to lynch me all game as they are correctly doing. Everyone else should comply.
I decided the best way to play this role is to get lynched.
Speaking of Pikmin, I haven't seen anything near this calibre of post-quality out of you this game:
In post 243, DrippingGoofball wrote:Unfortunately I'd be hard-pressed to explain it, but I feel that she's scumhunting like scum. Not really reading or paying attention, targeting the noisier players (kuribo and myself in this instance) with trash like "you seem nervous" and not following through herself, but hoping to get others to do her dirty work. Kinda drawing attention to the unlynchables in the hope of discrediting them, and if they are lynched, freeing her NK for something other than the mandatory N1 NK of the more influencial or experienced players.
Scum 101, really.
In post 245, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Leviathan is fitting the classic profile of the nervous, inexperienced scum that the scum team want to jettison in the hope of getting town cred. A recent example is Gay Mafia II where a scum was bus'ed quite vigorously. Reading the scum QT, he let on to his buddies that he was very insecure with his play. So they pushed his lynch to get rid of the weak link in the team.
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Post #341 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:46 pm
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 302, Dr Pants wrote:WIFOMing out why PV died, which you did, is scummy to a lesser extent.
Town is killed at night for various reasons. Sometimes because they are direct threats to scum, sometimes in an effort to mislead town. I believe more discussion is of greater benefit to town than less discussion, and I'm disturbed that you'd try to exert a chilling effect on that discussion.
I've played 3 games with Mastin, and I'm having a hard time reading her this game. I don't understand the DGB position or defence of Salamence's maidenly virtue, but there's a sincerity coming through with some of the townreads.
If you can help me work out the self-voting thing I'll join you. While we are on the subject of your neighbourhood, what has Gottemer felt like in the QT?
In post 289, Xisiqomelir wrote:She'd have been telling the truth about her own alignment, but "neighbourhood" implies scum. So 3 person neighbourhood minus one town does not make me think "2 masons".
Dead serious.
I will lynch anyone.
Policy-lynch anyone.
Who seriously advocates neighborhood paranoia just because of it being a neighborhood.
It being 3p does not excuse this.
I've been in a town-3p neighborhood.
I've seen plenty OF town-3p neighborhoods.
In fact it's been years since I've actually SEEN a 3p neighborhood with one scum in it.
Neighborhoods in current site meta are effectively "masons that you don't want to be confirmed town". In other words, all town but where there is a chance (thanks to paranoia of not being masons) of them not being town, thus, making them lynchable. (Inversely, most NEIGHBORIZERS these days are scum. I have a very, very large tendency to place trust in my neighbors if in a neighborhood from the start, and distrust in my neighborizer if recruited.)
If you are one of three Neighbors, chances are reasonable that one of the other Neighbors is scum.
No, but I'll PL anyone using the wiki, when the wiki is VERY largely static, stale, and unmoving, making it very rapidly obsolete to current site meta. Don't believe me? Look at the revision history. The last edit might be in 2014, but look at the contents OF that edit--it's fixing formatting and grammatical errors, not the content of the article itself. Before that? The article was last edited in 2011, three years ago.
Here is Monopoly Mafia from just before I went on hiatus. The neighbourhood was scummy as all get-out.
Are you going to tell me there is suddenly an abundance of three-man "mason"-hoods? You know I'm going to demand evidence for this assertion, yes? Please provide it.
two players most likely to prioritize Antihero so high are zMuffinman and Titus
. In particular, Titus.
Then again, both would prioritize me fairly high.
But like I said, I objectively suck, Anti subjectively rules, sooooooo, yeah.
Not going to do my research until tomorrow on things, though, since it's already fairly late, here.
In post 330, Antihero wrote:regardless, skot's already a scumread on page 2. his glib post 45 is :scumposting:
bookitty's another one with the "oh look how town i am hominahominahomina" post....
i'm quickly seeing why peregrine keeled over night 1; he may have been wrong about sal, but i think he caught scum in the crossfire (see: actiondan and bookitty).
speaking of actiondan, post 62 is a doozy..., especially given the thing above it at bookitty
overall, i agree with mastin's conclusion from day 1 that the wagon was scummier than the bottom of a fishtank (see: bookitty, skot).
...speaking of those people, holy shit: these votes | PeregrineV, Dr. Pants, Messiah Complex,
, Jackal711 | they're even in the same order. gut's also pinging desp because dr. pants is a pretty decent townread at this point.
strongest town: [mastin, DGB, slandaar, Dr Pants, (justin is close)]
strongest scum: [bookitty, SKOT, 'jiffyhydra] VOTE: bookitty
VOTE: SKOT.
Feel comfortable doing this. Other names of note: zMuffinman, with a side of Dan and a dash of Desp (Messiah Complex).
It's a decent starting place. I'll give another look to the wagons next.
are not town mastin actions in response to N2.
I would also like to make note of how she has been treating me this game, with the casual scumcalls and excuses when questioned about lack of accompanying push this game.
It is perfectly insincere and entirely indicative to me of scum.
We have meta so I suspect this is about to get textual, but I would ask town to please avoid site meta and actually read the words people type. It will be important for this game.
Please note that the next series of posts from mastin will most likely be offended nonsense about how "yes xis is scum but I need to lynch SKOT today" AKA pocket chain-lynching.
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Post #605 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:54 am
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 544, ActionDan wrote:well well well. would you look at that kill flavor. Man I wonder why that could be. Well, does anyone feel like SPECULATING? No? Damn shame. Guess we'll never know
Not Voting: Justin Playfair, Xisiqomelir, Antihero, Jackal711
Off the wagon, we've got Xisi as likely scum
and Jackal as possible-scum. On it, SKOT and zMuffinman's slots both stand out. Dan COULD be scum, here, though it really depends on what the traitor is.
"scumreading" me (though mastin, unlike pants, has yet to actually vote me), so getting their sincerely-motivated votes to lynch me ought to be easy...one would hope.
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Post #659 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:22 am
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 609, mastin2 wrote:Yeah, no. I get that you're probably scum, but were you to be town, this proves you don't know anything about me at all.
Downplaying, check. Evasion, check. Refusal to respond to the salient point ("Oh I suck, I guess think this person is scum but now I will vote this other person" is not Town behaviour), check.
To address the point about familiarity for the benefit of town, I can state that I have ample games played with mastin (or mastin-inclusive hydras).
I can also state that we have never been the same alignment in any game, and I've been town for 2/3 of our series, so it is absurd to state that I am unfamiliar with her scum tactics.
Mastin as scum does not ALLCAPS RAGE like Fate-scum or strut out intellectual superiority as MagnaofIllusion scum used to do. Her scum behaviour is generally homogenized with her town behaviour in that her pushes will remain civilly stated and superficially reasonable-seeming, but even a cursory querying of her sincerity or motive will reveal her positions as spurious.
Please note that the next series of posts from mastin will most likely be offended nonsense about how "yes xis is scum but I need to lynch SKOT today" AKA pocket chain-lynching.
Nah. That's 2012 scuMastin. 2014 scuMastin is far more complex than that. 2012 scuMastin you can predict. 2014 scuMastin relies on you predicting things so that she can subvert, twist, and otherwise morph your predictions to serve her own agenda.
A clear-cut "lynch me if you can". Just read this sentence.
If you are one of three Neighbors, chances are reasonable that one of the other Neighbors is scum.
No, but I'll PL anyone using the wiki, when the wiki is VERY largely static, stale, and unmoving, making it very rapidly obsolete to current site meta. Don't believe me? Look at the revision history. The last edit might be in 2014, but look at the contents OF that edit--it's fixing formatting and grammatical errors, not the content of the article itself. Before that? The article was last edited in 2011, three years ago.
Here is Monopoly Mafia from just before I went on hiatus. The neighbourhood was scummy as all get-out.
Are you going to tell me there is suddenly an abundance of three-man "mason"-hoods? You know I'm going to demand evidence for this assertion, yes? Please provide it.
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Post #771 (isolation #29) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:43 pm
Postby Xisiqomelir »
I have to take another long train ride, so I would like to provide my stances on two topics of discussion:
-I didn't think bookitty was scum. I am slightly perturbed that muffin's push on me doesn't involve interacting with me, but I'm not in a rush to fling rope in that direction
-No one should cc vezok's claim, and the claim itself is peculiarly early. I guess this is lynchable but I would far prefer mastin
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Post #773 (isolation #30) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:51 pm
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 770, mastin2 wrote: Irrelevant, given that I was wrong and DGB flipped traitor.
Contrariwise, I think it's highly pertinent and you were trying hard to derail a lynch on a scumbuddy. The wiki on traitors states:
Variations
These are a few of the ways that Traitor has been implemented.
The Traitor may or may not know who is in the Mafia to begin with.
If not, Traitor is basically intended to act like a "bad Townie" - whereas "good Townies" try to find scum, "bad Townies" hinder the Town from finding the scum without necessarily knowing who they are. However, it is considerably more common for the Traitor to know who the scum are.
On occasion the Traitor is only told who one of the scum is.
The Traitor may give negative results to Cops (that is, they show up like Townies would). This hearkens back to the earliest interpretation of the Traitor, called the Mafia Spy.
The Mafia Spy shows up as Town to Cops, but the Mafia can "call them back" at any time to make them full members of the Mafia at any time. (Obviously, the Mafia would know that the Mafia Spy exists.)
Some moderators allow for Mafia teams to kill their Traitors with the factional kill. Other times, the Traitor is immune to kills from their Mafia (in which case if the Mafia tries to kill them there is no kill that Night). Still other times, if the Mafia attempts to kill their Traitor the Traitor is instead recruited into the Mafia, allowing it to talk to the rest of the faction and perform the factional kill. All of these have been seen regularly.
If the Mafia can potentially kill their Traitor, they are sometimes told that a Traitor exists in the game. This forces the scum to hunt for their own Traitor in hopes of learning who NOT to kill at Night.
Some Traitors, particularly those that cannot be recruited into the main faction, are compensated by being granted extra powers. For instance, the Mafia Traitor may also be the team's Roleblocker.
Some Traitors lose if the main Mafia group is wiped out, even if they are still alive.
So either scumteam didn't know who DGB was or DGB didn't know who she was with. I think the latter is more likely given her posting, and I think that explains verbiage like the below:
SPEAKING OBJECTIVELY. This is as painfully obvious as it can be. How the heck can you be this dense, Slandaar? It's simple.
DGB sees a neighborhood. She believes absolutely that her two partners are town. She knows that paranoia on the neighborhood will exist. She also knows that the paranoia will be focused on her. She believes fully, 100%, that as far as the rest of the game is concerned, if there's any scum in the neighborhood, it's her. Of course she personally knows herself to be town, but nobody else does. But she also believes 100% that after she flips town, people will (or at least, SHOULD) believe that the other two neighbors are town. I don't see how this can't be clear to you. This has been laid out by her and by me explicitly multiple times. She (subjectively) thinks that the neighborhood should be (objectively) all-town, but thanks to paranoia, will (objectively) be suspected, but the focus will be on her. And she knows (objectively) that if anyone in the neighborhood is scum, it'd be her. So in spite of subjectively knowing herself town, she advocates her death, because she (subjectively) believes that the other neighbors will be objectively town when she dies.
Is this the opinion other players hold, no. But she thinks it should be. It makes perfect sense if you actually bother to follow the train of thought that goes into it. You can disagree with her conclusion (be it that the neighborhood is all town, she should die, or both), sure. But just because you disagree with her conclusion does not mean you shouldn't be able to figure out how she reached it. I've *been there*. I know exactly how she feels. There's a reason I pioneered the Mastin Gambit. Is it ideal play, I happen to disagree and think it is not. Is it play that can be coming from town,
YES
. Just because she isn't playing the way you think is ideal doesn't mean she's scum; it just means your ideals differ from hers.
In post 770, mastin2 wrote:But yes, I've seen and been in plenty of all-town neighborhoods. Among them Xeno and AP's micro.
Can you please enumerate "plenty" exactly? If it turns out that "two" is rather a more a plurality than a miniscule subset of "plenty" that is worth disclosing.
--ReallySexyDudes, Dr. Pants, POWERFUL TOWNIE, BBmolla, (L-4)
Not Voting: Slandaar, Anatole Kuragin, Sharpest-knife-on-tree
I'm still on page 31.
Shady: mastin, Anatole Kuragin, Pants
Not Shady: Dan, Slandaar, Venjiffy, Molla
I will not be voting Sharpest (yes I saw him vote me). Trust me when I say that his demonstrated skill at the game is not what anyone would call "proficient" (Proof: highly recent meta).
He seems like a popular townread but Im not seeing it exactly.
I don't have that opinion, mainly because D2 he got agitated about even the prospect of discussing NKs:
In post 270, Dr Pants wrote:anyone who questions the nk gains instant scum points
and then today when we had entirely different N2 NK flavour from N1 he evaded Dan's point about the topic:
In post 544, ActionDan wrote:well well well. would you look at that kill flavor. Man I wonder why that could be. Well, does anyone feel like SPECULATING? No? Damn shame. Guess we'll never know
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Post #995 (isolation #37) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:55 am
Postby Xisiqomelir »
In post 994, Anatole Kuragin wrote:I could be wrong, but isn't "the wire" slang for wiretapping - as in "getting caught on the wire" would be being implicated in a crime by the police?
You aren't wrong in the flavour context of the show, there is that, but there is also the conjunction and independent clause:
"AND SHOT AT A DISTANCE"
Which I find somewhat perturbing.
While you are here, can you please explain how you didn't end up voting until this page?
Hey, Xisi.
I'm a Normal Reviewer.
The NRG are working on the Traitor role.
I know it better than most people.
There are more variations than you think.
The mafia can be told the traitor's identity.
This, AND ONLY THIS, version would allow us to 100% be able to scumhunt off of DGB interactions.
The mafia can be told there is a traitor in the game, but not who the traitor is.
The mafia can be told nothing about the traitor.
The traitor can be told who the mafia are.
The traitor can be told nothing about the mafia.
The traitor can be recruited.
The traitor can be killed.
So there are 3.5 variables: mafia knowledge, traitor knowledge, and kill/recruit (these can be separate: mafia recruiters, for instance).
None of these are exclusive.
The appeal to authority is gratuitous. Being in an uninformed majority is what the game is predicated on, and I have to make the best decisions I can with what information I have. Your hastening to respond to every point with dismissal rather than engagement is making me feel that my decision is highly sound.
Xisiqomelir wrote:Can you please enumerate "plenty" exactly? If it turns out that "two" is rather a more a plurality than a miniscule subset of "plenty" that is worth disclosing.
Two off the top of my head. There's more, of course, but I'm lazy, two served the purpose adequately, and because the whole point is entirely null-and-void, I'm not going to bother.
You cannot actually evade my queries. Allow me to re-state and expand upon them:
1) Why were you so highly insistent yesterday that the neighbourhood contained zero scum?
2) Why are you hastening to avoid having to acknowledge your own prior stance?
3) What is the meaning, in plain English, of the following spoilered prose?
Spoiler:
In post 362, mastin2 wrote:SPEAKING OBJECTIVELY. This is as painfully obvious as it can be. How the heck can you be this dense, Slandaar? It's simple.
DGB sees a neighborhood. She believes absolutely that her two partners are town. She knows that paranoia on the neighborhood will exist. She also knows that the paranoia will be focused on her. She believes fully, 100%, that as far as the rest of the game is concerned, if there's any scum in the neighborhood, it's her. Of course she personally knows herself to be town, but nobody else does. But she also believes 100% that after she flips town, people will (or at least, SHOULD) believe that the other two neighbors are town. I don't see how this can't be clear to you. This has been laid out by her and by me explicitly multiple times. She (subjectively) thinks that the neighborhood should be (objectively) all-town, but thanks to paranoia, will (objectively) be suspected, but the focus will be on her. And she knows (objectively) that if anyone in the neighborhood is scum, it'd be her. So in spite of subjectively knowing herself town, she advocates her death, because she (subjectively) believes that the other neighbors will be objectively town when she dies.
Is this the opinion other players hold, no. But she thinks it should be. It makes perfect sense if you actually bother to follow the train of thought that goes into it. You can disagree with her conclusion (be it that the neighborhood is all town, she should die, or both), sure. But just because you disagree with her conclusion does not mean you shouldn't be able to figure out how she reached it. I've *been there*. I know exactly how she feels. There's a reason I pioneered the Mastin Gambit. Is it ideal play, I happen to disagree and think it is not. Is it play that can be coming from town,
YES
. Just because she isn't playing the way you think is ideal doesn't mean she's scum; it just means your ideals differ from hers.
4) How is it not valid to query your positions and reasoning for those positions when they are proven to be erroneous?
In post 776, mastin2 wrote:For the record. This basically necessitates a townread on me. Know why, Xisi?
Because zMuffinman has something like a 15+ game history with me and in every single game so far, has gotten the correct read. (Vice-vera too, for what it's worth. To the point where
as scum, I auto-nightkill zMuffinman N1 no questions asked
. He's my first kill priority, surpassing even P.)
I'm not enthralled with this defence. Since you are invoking 3rd party meta, let's ask him.
@zMuffinMan
: Is the quoted post by mastin a legitimate reason to dismiss the possibility of her being scum this game? Can you cite any games recent games with mastin as scum where you did not die N1 as town?
In post 776, mastin2 wrote:(Btw, Xisi's stances that post are horribad. It's basically saying "don't want to lynch either Vezok or zMuffinman, but I easily can.")
Not the case. My post:
In post 771, Xisiqomelir wrote:I have to take another long train ride, so I would like to provide my stances on two topics of discussion:
-I didn't think bookitty was scum. I am slightly perturbed that muffin's push on me doesn't involve interacting with me, but I'm not in a rush to fling rope in that direction
-No one should cc vezok's claim, and the claim itself is peculiarly early. I guess this is lynchable but I would far prefer mastin
Which is a pretty clear "will not lynch today" for muffin and "could lynch today, but not as a first choice" for vezok.
Why don't you do me the courtesy of explaining why NK speculation of any form is scummy next time before demanding explanations for statements that are self-explanatory. PV did not seem particularly townish in any capacity, and therefore looks more like a vig kill than a scum kill.
if he wasn't town.
-Majvenmar is POE town with one scum neighbour dead, and also found that scum neighbour and lead the wagon.
-Slandaar is engaging in an active thought process for the benefit of town:
In post 286, Slandaar wrote:The point was if DGB were town she would know she doesn't need to be lynched for her neighbours to already be considered masons. This being one of her big arguments as to why she wants to be lynched. It sounds really pro-town though when you are saying you confirm two people as masons by being lynched it
sounds
like you have thought it through and have the towns interests at heart.
In post 990, Xisiqomelir wrote:I will not be voting Sharpest (yes I saw him vote me). Trust me when I say that his demonstrated skill at the game is not what anyone would call "proficient" (Proof: highly recent meta).
Thats grand and all, but do you have any opinion on his alignment this game?
Most likely town, and most likely we'll have to suffer his presence all the way till the end of the game. As a weak and ineffectual player, scumteam is most likely happy to keep him around as mislynch fodder at LyLo.
In post 1006, POWERFUL TOWNIE wrote:Re NK Spec: Meh. I don't see Pants dissuading NK spec to be scummy exactly, just playstyle indicative more than anything. Further, I have noted the differing flavors for the NKs but I don't really think there is a good reason to talk about it right now. Could mean absolutely nothing. Could be relevant, but I'm sure not going to go spelunking there just yet.
In post 996, Xisiqomelir wrote:Your hastening to respond to every point with dismissal rather than engagement is making me feel that my decision is highly sound.
I looked at your point and mastin is right.
Your assertions are all rather egregious
and any case based off of them is flimsy. Mastin made valid points by pointing out that Traitors are often unpredictable. Why do you want to base a case on speculation?
Reasoning for the underlined, please. As long as she evades, rather than addresses, the points, I will keep pressing them.
: I'm perturbed that this post doesn't end in a vote on me.
Alas, the mod has seen it fit to bequeath to me but a mere singular vote, a great honor best put to use in continued support of the great campaign to lay rope around Bookitty's neck.
FOR SALAMANCE!
So you ain't gonna say nothing on it?
Which ought to have been obvious from the disconnect from my usual grammatical style, but apparently practically no one has watched the show this game.
From this ep, after Dee dies courtesy of Stringer's string-pullery:
I was originally our town Conditional Enabler, which let me provide substantial support for our PRs every night, like letting them perform night actions without the possibility of interruption or cancellation or interference, but the condition hinged upon Avon being alive in the game. Since he died, there is an "I've done all I can for you" clause in my role PM which triggered, and I became town 1-shot Enabler, hence:
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Post #1086 (isolation #48) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:54 am
Postby Xisiqomelir »
Here's my pseudo-L-2:
Xisiqomelir--
vezokpiraka
,
mastin2
, TheAdrienC,
Sharpest-knife-on-tree, BBMolla, zMuffinMan
(L-2)
I obviously will not bother addressing
scum
on my wagon (please note their posts over the last few pages), nor AdrienC, who has exempted itself from the obligation to think critically, so this is addressed to
town
on my wagon:
I would like you to review my claim and vezok's claim, the timing of each, and the plausibility of each (Bree paid for Namond and De'Londa out the dwindling money she had as long as she could, and no one in their right minds would consider Roland "Wee-Bey" Brice a
In post 259, Xisiqomelir wrote:Assume you are clear-cut low-rises Barksdale like Stinkums instead of Wallace
This actually just seems weird then; the way you have used Stinkums.
I wasn't setting a trap card, I just picked a low-rises Barksdale hood outside the Wallace-Poot-Bodie love triangle to try to get DGB to give an indicative response. We had a Cass, there could well be a Stinks or Anton.
I'm skirting the no-quote rule pretty closely already. Basically, I pick someone who I think is a town PR every night, and their action will go through no matter what other night actions are declared to interfere with them (my PM is explicit that my role will overrule all others)