Twilight Zone Mafia - game over

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Elllibereth
Irrefutable evidence of his scumitude.

[Spiffeh]

Nacho what does your role say specifically?

Or are you just a trolly drunk?

[Spiffeh]

I mean does it say "Hey Nacho you're so and so and btw Ellibereth is scum get him"?

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE: Ellibereth
Lol no

[Spiffeh]

Something stupid Is gonna happen when we Lynch I just know it.

Says this but is still on the wagon.

VOTE: Peptobislawl

[Spiffeh]

Why are you so scared of Nacho?

He is so cuddly

[Spiffeh]

I highly doubt a host would design a game where a certain player is meant to be lynched Day 1.

That would be a pretty douche move lol

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh——— Please share your reads on Drixx and pepto, so I can compare.

Drixx's post 157 came out of left field but someone mentioned he has some IRL stuff going on? I'm currently voting Pepto (not for long!) but I have to go soon so I'll come back to him later.

I misread the vote count. I though someone said it was l 1.

I really need a reason to vote someone that has a cop guilty on them?

This is really bad. First, he misunderstood Nacho and someone who doesn't even get the situation should NOT be stating intent to fucking hammer this early wtf. He doesn't even question "hey how does a cop have a guilty it's only day 1???" he just goes along with it. The bolded looks like a subtle way to avoid blame if it's an eventual mislynch.
VOTE: BlueMoonRising

[Spiffeh]

I'm also starting to realise that the Elli wagon is a bit suspect.

i personally don't think people on the elli wagon are suspicious. if somebody says they got an investigate, people are likely to follow.

???

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh just randomly leaves (at L1) and votes Peptobiswal for weak reasoning.

Maybe because I didn't want someone lynched because of a "report" on Day 1 from someone drunk who might have been trolling? And it was probably weak reasoning because it was like the third page of the game. I think it was a pretty good reason all things considered.
Also you literally vote for Pepto in the same post lol

It's entirely possible that Nacho's message is legitimate, but still a bad idea to Lynch. A Jester is the obvious example, but it could be a neutral/benevolent 3rd party, or some bastard role that you don't wanna lynch. The message only said "not town" after all.
Or it's a lie. The end idea of "don't lynch" is the same.

If you believe this then why were you on the wagon?

Unless ypu guys want a roleclaim out of me there's really not much else I can say in my defense at this point, and somehow, i don't think a roleclaim is gonna help at this point.

This seems like noob town to me though.

[Spiffeh]

@Lizard_Buttock address this please:

I'm also starting to realise that the Elli wagon is a bit suspect.

i personally don't think people on the elli wagon are suspicious. if somebody says they got an investigate, people are likely to follow.

???

[Spiffeh]

1. You hopped wagons.
2. You hopped wagons built partly on Pepto being overly defensive and is now being hella overly defensive without any arguments made.
3. You left your caps lock on in your first post and made me sad.

1. To me, yes. totally fair. YOU said as much.
2.Defensive is not the word to describe accusing random voters against you. We call that "scumhunting"
3. Now that's just petty.

Your logic is bad and you should feel bad. I'll VOTE: EdgarAllanPro until Massive responds, then I decide between them.

Pepto why did you feel the need to respond to this?

wgeurts gives a compelling reason to leave the Elli/Nacho thing for later and I also think that's what we should do.

-Avoids doing stuff or scumhunting and openely admits he's just parking his vote here but he doesn't want a lynch on the slot although he believes nacho's claim. Lolwhat?

This is exactly why I voted for him initially yet you said I had weak reasoning. Please explain.

[Spiffeh]

Because let's face it:
You're nitpicking.
Why didn't you vote wake88? He resisted the ellibereth wagon but later offered to hammer.
There are a tonne of others who just randomly joined building up the wagon to L1, why are they better than blue?

It was fairly obvious to me that Wake also thought him being at L-1 was bullshit.
What about my vote is weak? I thought I why I chose him pretty well.

[Spiffeh]

Whoops posted out of order!

@Spiffeh

Instead of totally ignoring the recent events following the pepto wagon could you please give some oppinions on them?
What do you think of pepto?
And of his defence of lizard?
What do you think of edgar's points against lizard?
This would be a good start instead of some weird random seeming vote with weak reasoning.

Sorry I was still catching up.
1) I understand the suspicion but I am getting a noob town vibe from him other than his weird defense of Lizard.
2) See above.
3) I think they're fine. Lizard has been pretty inconsistent so far so I am welcoming of pressure on her.

[Spiffeh]

Sorry I was still catching up.

[Spiffeh]

As in I had not read current events. I still think BlueMoonRising is a good vote but would be willing to switch to Lizard.

[Spiffeh]

Idk Pepto gives off a noob town vibe to me. I'll elaborate more later I have to go but:

-Avoids doing stuff or scumhunting and openely admits he's just parking his vote here but he doesn't want a lynch on the slot although he believes nacho's claim. Lolwhat?

This is exactly why I voted for him initially yet you said I had weak reasoning. Please explain.

Address this.

[Spiffeh]

^ Scum

Catching up in a little

[Spiffeh]

I misread the vote count. I though someone said it was l 1.

I really need a reason to vote someone that has a cop guilty on them?

This is really bad. First, he misunderstood Nacho and someone who doesn't even get the situation should NOT be stating intent to fucking hammer this early wtf. He doesn't even question "hey how does a cop have a guilty it's only day 1???" he just goes along with it. The bolded looks like a subtle way to avoid blame if it's an eventual mislynch.
VOTE: BlueMoonRising

Hey BMR I don't believe you addressed this so please do so. Most importantly this question: Why did you declare intent to hammer so early when you clearly didn't understand the whole situation?

[Spiffeh]

DOMO's posts seem really fake idk if that means anything though (no offense)

[Spiffeh]

Excuse me I started the Blue Moon wagon I demand the credit

[Spiffeh]

No I think the MS hydra is scum too probs

[Spiffeh]

Idek understand that MS

[Spiffeh]

you like voting obvious dumb town Spiffeh. that's not spiffy.

Chill my name is Spiffy on another forum I know MS from which is why I thought it was him when you said "Spiffy"

[Spiffeh]

Why is he obviously town?

I think I have outlined pretty reasonably why BMR is scummy. Refute that instead of just claiming he is obvtown.

[Spiffeh]

I'm definately not in favor of a quick lynch and obviously the more discussion the town has the better chance of lynching scum.

Says the guy who stated intent to hammer 24 hours after game start...
Why do you keep avoiding responding to me?

[Spiffeh]

Oh awk I need to read more.

First point still stands though

[Spiffeh]

Explanation is still shit though. In what normal game has there ever been a guilty right off the bat?

[Spiffeh]

My guy is telling me Domo is scum but I don't trust my gut. BMR is a better vote for me.

Explain why you believe that BMR is town?

[Spiffeh]

@mod, I didn't vote myself, and I changed my vote to Massive ages ago. Also, Blue voted for me. Could you fix that in the next vote count?
Speaking of votes, Blue's vote on me is a self-admitted sheep vote, and Elbirn's vote doesn't have any reasoning attached to it. Domo has also admitted himself that I seem pretty good mostly, and it's just my first post that was scummy (and come on, we all got caught in the d1 cop reveal hype train. It's no better then wake intending to hammer shortly after and then saying 'lol jk' like nobody noticed it.) Overall the wagon on me is looking pretty flimsy for the most part.

Who are the scum on your wagon (if there are any)?

[Spiffeh]

Drixx do you have any reads at the moment?

[Spiffeh]

I see you haven't voted for anyone yet.

[Spiffeh]

MS what do you think of BlueMoonRising?

Gonna read up rn

[Spiffeh]

I am disappointed in you MS

[Spiffeh]

spiffeh accuses sonic of avoiding the thread and spifeh then avoids answering to elaborate on 385 when I apply pressure to domo + spiffeh + eli.

Where did I say MS was avoiding the thread? Like I figured maybe I had done that so I checked my ISO and I can't find it. Also this post was pretty bad. "These are all the bad things Spiffeh did but vote: DOMO because association." Don't use associatives on Day 1 it's not a good look.
Here are some quotes that made me think DOMO sounded fake:

This is too easy. Play better scum.

I kinda like that vote. That's someone who doesn't trust me.

There's something in my gut telling me these seem really forced but I don't know how accurate it is. I am actually going to read the last few pages now and make a determination (for real this time).

I am also calling BS on Metal Sonic thinking I'm actually scum this game because he should know better.

[Spiffeh]

I don't think Prolapsed Brain has said one thing significant this entire game so he's a decent bet for scum right now.

[Spiffeh]

Like the biggest thing against him I think is that no one has even brought him up yet. I bet scum would be all over his shit if he was town and playing that way.

[Spiffeh]

XXB seems town otherwise and is just wrong about things.

Do you think as scum I'd actually wish to know the alignment of people when I already know it?

Um yes to seem town?? That's a really convoluted defense.

Well if anyone thinks as scum I'd be stupid enough to ask to know the alignment of the people I'm voting for, go ahead and vote for me.

What does this even mean?

every unvote or devote of eli has significant reasoning but eli and spiffeh. spiffeh was one of the first off and treats the guilty with next to no seriousness. eli also has no significant analysis anywhere. his biggest "contribution" is an omgus.

I really have to explain why I jumped off this wagon for you? L-1 within hours of day start based on a drunk's claimed D1 "guilty"? Give me a break.

Oh yeah I don't actually think his intent to hammer was that terrible unless he as scum really think no one would bat an eye if he hammered that early. I also think this is really town if Elli is scum; maybe scum would want to be on the wagon, but I don't think they would go balls-out to instahammer a buddy's wagon.

I disagree. People would definitely be after you over him AT LEAST. The way he worded it seemed to imply "hey go look at the guy who claimed guilty over there not me" if it went the wrong way. I don't buy his terrible excuse of "I didn't know it was bastard". Is a guilty on Day 1 normal? It doesn't even evoke a "hmmm let me think about this"?

[Spiffeh]

fuck that guy

[Spiffeh]

spiffeh's most obvious link to domo is in his "domo" is fake, vote elsewhere post. on day 1, scum rarely bus. spiffeh's response when I start pushing the three of them as scum is the same backhanded xxb could be scum.

This is just wrong. You didn't even mention me until I said you could be scum, so calling you scum was not my reaction to you pushing me. It's actually getting harder to townread you when you misrepresent things.

[Spiffeh]

Klingon's recent posting looks town to me.
@Nacho why do you think wgeurts (I hate typing his name it took me three tries to get it) is scum?
I hate that DOMO is just doing what he is told to do and just drops his scum reads to vote for a player he's never talked about?
BlueMoonRising still needs to be lynched today. The intent to hammer was bad and his excuse for doing it was even worse.
Prolapsed Brain is also scum.

I'm going to keep my read on DOMO ambiguous just to spite XXB
(it should be kinda obvious though)

[Spiffeh]

If I am as good as scum as you say than you wouldn't be scumreading me now right??? /half-joke
And sorry, even if the guilty wasn't delivered by drunk Nacho I wouldn't want to end Day 1 so early.

[Spiffeh]

I like wgeurts' idea of "wait and see what happens Day 2/3"

I will say that I'm not entirely satisfied with Elli's play so far.

[Spiffeh]

MS let your hydra partner know I want him to respond to every post I addressed him in on the last page thx bae

[Spiffeh]

I want your follow up to my response on your case against me. Here I'll quote so you can't avoid it:

Where did I say MS was avoiding the thread?

I really have to explain why I jumped off this wagon for you? L-1 within hours of day start based on a drunk's claimed D1 "guilty"? Give me a break.

://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p ... 6#p7199736]post 657[/url], Spiffeh"]This is just wrong. You didn't even mention me until I said you could be scum, so calling you scum was not my reaction to you pushing me. It's actually getting harder to townread you when you misrepresent things.[/quote]
Question for the last one: Why did you lie about the continuity?

[Spiffeh]

I'm bad at quoting.
Last one:

spiffeh's most obvious link to domo is in his "domo" is fake, vote elsewhere post. on day 1, scum rarely bus. spiffeh's response when I start pushing the three of them as scum is the same backhanded xxb could be scum.

This is just wrong. You didn't even mention me until I said you could be scum, so calling you scum was not my reaction to you pushing me. It's actually getting harder to townread you when you misrepresent things.

Why did you lie about the continuity?

[Spiffeh]

That answers like none of my questions lol

[Spiffeh]

No where in the quotes you quoted is anything about me saying MS was avoiding the thread. So that one's not answered.
You have absolutely no good reason to suspect for jumping off the Elli wagon as it should really be self explanatory.
And you still haven't explained yourself for lying about the continuity of the events of your accusations against me. You said I responded to your accusation by calling you scum, when that is a blatant lie. At first I thought it was a mistake but now that you're playing dumb it makes me think you were fudging the truth to cast me in any negative light possible.

I genuinely can't tell if you're actually this terrible, trolling, or scum.

PEdit: Specific questions have been asked. Give specific answers.

[Spiffeh]

Lol the entirety of my "push" on you consisted of the phrase "I think the MS hydra is scum". There was no increase of pressure on you. In the quotes that you have provided, it is clear that I was interacting with you, yes, because that's villagers do to get a more concrete opinion of scum reads. I hadn't said anything in regards to your alignment after post 400 until recently when I realized just how atrocious your read on me was. If you are so paranoid to the point where you consider my interactions with you as an "increasing push" then I would not be surprised if you were scum.

The fact that I need to provide a reason for getting off an L-1 wagon on page 4 of Day 1 is just lol

[Spiffeh]

MS get your partner's act together pls

He is soiling your good name.

PEdit: I quoted examples go find them. It was just a gut reaction that I had to them, as I have explained already. Do you want me to go into linguistics and origins of the words he used? Real question: What would have been an acceptable explanation?

[Spiffeh]

I quoted examples go find them. It was just a gut reaction that I had to them, as I have explained already. Do you want me to go into linguistics and origins of the words he used?

^^^^ DOMO fakeness

of course, for ms's name to be soiled by my presence, that would require knowledge that we're town spiffeh.

Not even a little bit.

What would have been an acceptable explanation?

This question was regarding my explanation for saying DOMO's posts seemed fake, which you seem to keep overlooking because you've asked me like fifty times for it.

PEdit: Are Elbirn and Pepto my scumbuddies too? What makes their 'buddying' of me any different from my supposed buddying of DOMO and Elli?

[Spiffeh]

Elbirn = Edosurist

[Spiffeh]

It's very obvious to me many of you didn't even read our exchange because we weren't discussing DOMO.

Don't make determinations when you aren't understanding the conversation correctly (mostly talking to DOMO here).

[Spiffeh]

^ That's bad.
You clearly don't know the case on wgeurts and you drop your other vote so easily for it?

[Spiffeh]

As for XXB, I am done with the back-and-forths with him. Everyone can look back at my ISO for an explanation on how terrible his scumread on me is.

[Spiffeh]

MS do you see the shit he has spewed at me?

[Spiffeh]

What do you have me as?
I am fine with my vote right now. Klingon looks town to me. DOMO I am scumreading slightly.

[Spiffeh]

I'm scumreading PB too. He says he's scumreading both XXB and DOMO but is voting wgeurts because Nacho asked him to? I also looked at a completed town game of his and while his post count was nothing special like here, in that game he at least gave opinions and stances that he is lacking now.

It's also weird to me that no one has called him out on his play yet.

How do others feel about PB?

[Spiffeh]

You literally just went through the rest of his reads and said they were wrong.

[Spiffeh]

I actually don't disagree with that logic.

[Spiffeh]

I thought Elli reacted pretty well to Nacho's guilty on him.
Like didn't he think Nacho was bsing because they know each other well or something? That's why I think he's town.
Plus everyone just being like "LOL OK DRUNK NACHO LET'S DO IT" like BMR are scummy.

[Spiffeh]

Seriously BMR needs to be lynched today like holy shit

[Spiffeh]

Nacho was is wgeurts scum?
All BMR is doing is complaining about the gamestate and doing nothing to improve or add to it.

[Spiffeh]

BMR who would you like to lynch today and why?

[Spiffeh]

BMR are you an alt? Or is that your only account here?

[Spiffeh]

That was probably poorly worded I'm sorry I didn't mean it that way.

Someone who was drunk's* is what I meant.

[Spiffeh]

And I also don't know you nor would I pretend to know how often you drink NOR should I make a judgement on the frequency of your drinking.

So yeah I'm sorry that was a really bad way of phrasing that. Pls forgive

[Spiffeh]

Omg I feel like such an asshole now

[Spiffeh]

No it's cool my wording was atrocious.

Anyway
VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

[Spiffeh]

Wait XXB you know that Nacho isn't a day cop right?

[Spiffeh]

Wouldn't Nacho still have his vote on Elli if he actually was a day cop? He would be actually pushing for Elli to be lynched if that were the case obviously.

[Spiffeh]

Ok if Nacho's actually a Day Cop than that is a different story but I could have sworn he said he just got a random message at day start?

[Spiffeh]

So XXB's assertions are even more ridiculous than I thought possible.

[Spiffeh]

I mean the fact that so much of your stuff and associations are based on Nacho being a cop is kind of ridiculous.

[Spiffeh]

Vote for PB let's get a wagon on him.

[Spiffeh]

Elbirn asking why Prolapsed Brain is scummy and then proceeding to explain why Prolapsed Brain is scummy is weird to me.

[Spiffeh]

Prolapsed Brain are you really just going to avoid discussing the votes on you?
Like clearly you're reading along.

[Spiffeh]

^ Like PB

[Spiffeh]

Lol @ how PB continues to not address issues people have brought up against him

[Spiffeh]

The reason I didn't vote Lizard was because I was still voting Elli, which, at the time, I thought was more deserving of a lynch (due to the guilty result).

So I just scanned through isos for DOMO, Lizard, myself, and the Mod (for VC info) and I really have no explanation for my vote on DOMO.

Nacho is probtown for his case on me.

So why are you still voting for him? Makes me think you are just trying to placate your voters instead of search for scum.

[Spiffeh]

^ That can be vigged

[Spiffeh]

Ok I just ISO'd BlueMoonRising in a recently completed town game of his and his posts here are at least 10 times worse.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62339
I have linked the game. Just glance through his ISO in that game and compare it to this game and the difference should be really obvious. His posting there is so much more confident and aggressive in finding scum than here.

I honestly believe that we should lynch him over PB (who is also probably scum but the difference in his posting is less obvious) what do you guys think?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: BlueMoonRising

[Spiffeh]

I started the wagon on scum and am starting another wagon on more likely scum.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain
whatever I'm not dealing with you rn. BMR can be vigged tonight or lynched tomorrow.

[Spiffeh]

I'm really starting to get sick and tired of XXB monopolizing the discussion by crying whenever anyone doesn't vote the way he wants them to.

[Spiffeh]

I think Klingon is town though.

[Spiffeh]

BMR in the completed game I quoted you are completely adamant about Boonskiies being scum at the very beginning, so that's a load of crap.

[Spiffeh]

XXB: BMR trying to change his meta is no excuse for his scummy behavior. And if you're just going to say "he's town" just don't bother responding.

If BlueMoonRising wanted to play more cautiously and less confident then usual as he claims, tell me why he STATED INTENT TO HAMMER ON PAGE FUCKING FOUR.

If he was so intent on playing more analytically and carefully he would not have been so hasty. So his meta change BS still doesn't hold up.

He's just lucky his scum buddy PB is having the scummiest reaction possible to his wagon or BMR would be getting lynched today.

Gonna re-read Klingon later.

[Spiffeh]

I'm not being scummy at all.

I was intending to hammer because there was a cop guilty.

Stop intending to paint me into something I'm not.

1) There was no cop guilty.
2) You can't use "I'm being more careful/less confident" to defend yourself when you do something that immediately contradicts that majorly on page four. Your lack of skepticism on a DAY 1 GUILTY does not match up to what you claim to be changing your play style to.
3) Tell me where you think I have been "painting you into into something" you're not.

[Spiffeh]

There was never a claimed cop guilty and there still isn't. Go ISO Nacho.
Is a Daycop normal? That's an actual question that I am unsure of.
You have done nothing to make it fairly obvious that you're not scum. What ridiculous arguments am I pushing?

[Spiffeh]

The exact PM was, paraphrased: "you have learned through special means that ellibereth is not aligned with town".

I have taken no actions this game , so it has nothing to do with my role.

I doubt it was anything from the mod since mod randomly informing someone that someone is not town is bullshit for a variety of reasons. I'm assuming it's day amnesiac something, but it could be coming from scum, it could be inaccurate, etc.

But yes I could see how you take that as a cop claim. I'm still not entirely comfortable about the early intent to hammer, and how you're trying to call me scummy for pointing out valid contradictions about you. There's also the fact that you try to explain away your lack of scum hunting with a change in play style which is a bad excuse. If your change in play style includes less scumhunting than go back to what you did before. I am willing to drop this for now and revisit it later. What are your scum reads + reasons?

PB can still die today.

[Spiffeh]

Defend your actions.
Respond to accusations against you.
Elaborate on your reads.
Actually contribute to the discussion.
Scumhunt.
Analyze your wagon.

You have done none of these things.

[Spiffeh]

Fuck I didn't realize we only have three days til deadline

Gonna read up and post something substantial soon

[Spiffeh]

Drixx how do you feel about the PB wagon?

I'm gonna catch up for real now I promise.

[Spiffeh]

Also XXB is getting lynched over my dead body. He is so obvtown it's annoying.

[Spiffeh]

And you think anything Prolapsed Brain has done is better?

[Spiffeh]

Anyway I have varying degrees of town reads on DOMO, XXB, NicCage, and Lizard.

[Spiffeh]

I like Spiffeh's point on how no Cop claim has happened. What I don't like is how he asks if DayCop is Normal, when he should know by now that this is a Bastard game, so it looks like he's asking east questions to make himself look Townish. Does anyone know if Spiffeh asks questions like that when he's Scum? I'd also like you Spiffeh to share what you envision Nacho doing that'd make it fairly obvious that he isn't Scum, especially with it being Day 1 and all.

I asked that question to BMR because he claimed he thought the game was normal which is why he trusted Nacho's guilty unconditionally. I proceeded to ask if Daycop was normal, because if it wasn't then his excuse is bullshit.

[Spiffeh]

Wake how do you feel about the PB wagon?

[Spiffeh]

PB is scum and being lynched today.

I have seen absolutely nothing he has done for me to think otherwise.

[Spiffeh]

ISO me.

Also Nacho, I like his reasons for scum PB too.

[Spiffeh]

There aren't many other options for me.

The other two possibly consensus votes (Klingon, Xiao) both seem town to me and I have been unconvinced by arguments against them.

No where in PB's ISO has he indicated he is trying to find scum. His lack of a response to his wagon makes me think he is scum at a loss for what to say to save himself, and is resorting to lurking even harder than before so a bigger target might take priority over him.

I'm gonna quote some other things about PB in a few hours that convinced me but I have to go for now.

[Spiffeh]

I have a lot of town reads this game which is annoying because I hate being wrong about things.

[Spiffeh]

PB posts things that SEEM like he's engaging the game when he's not.

Ellibereth seems like he doesn't give a shit. While he needs to put more of an effort in and he shouldn't just get by doing nothing, I am not lynching him over scumnugget PB.

[Spiffeh]

Show me evidence of PB scumhunting please.

He has done a lot of setup spec and random unhelpful questions to look like he has been involved, but no actual content from him.

[Spiffeh]

Hmm Nacho how do you feel about there being no counter wagon and the wagon progression in general?

[Spiffeh]

Edo jsyk deadline is in about 48 hours.

[Spiffeh]

XXB why does who is in the neighborhood matter (for now)?

[Spiffeh]

This Xiao counter wagon is atrociously shitty.

[Spiffeh]

XXB is literally my biggest town read.

[Spiffeh]

I bet there's at least 2 scum in the hood btw

Actually if the people in the hood want to out themselves it might be easier to determine?

[Spiffeh]

Varsoon isn't that the definition of a counter wagon?

[Spiffeh]

Massive being on Lizard literally the entire day is cause for concern given she has obvtowned ever since her initial wagon.

[Spiffeh]

Ok seriously Prolapsed Brain still has done jack shit today that would warrant voting anyone else at this point.

The way people are scrambling for other targets makes me really think he's scum.

[Spiffeh]

PB is scum.

Ellibereth has been not caring (which is a shitty excuse but can still make sense from town).

You've been engaging/being engaged so I don't get why you would still be voting there where your vote's useless when you've been paying attention, other than to maybe distance yourself from recent events when someone flips.

[Spiffeh]

Can we vote hiplop?

I'm getting tired of the "I'm still catching up!" BS and I've seen scum do that to just skate by before.

[Spiffeh]

I don't mind the Edgar vote though

[Spiffeh]

Also did Nacho/anyone get a result like the one on Elli yesterday?

[Spiffeh]

I feel like Drixx doesn't look too great either and everyone seems to have forgotten about him?

[Spiffeh]

Ok seriously it's hard to not call the Xoxtm votes BS when there was like absolutely no mention of him by anyone yesterday.

[Spiffeh]

I really want to lynch Drixx today now.

That wall was all fluff no substance.

VOTE: Drixx

[Spiffeh]

Nacho and XXB thoughts on Drixx please (or quote me to where you shared your thoughts on him).

[Spiffeh]

I'm sorry for having to get prodded.

Gonna read up on a bit.

[Spiffeh]

I would still prefer a Drixx lynch but Elli has done nothing but promise to contribute when he hasn't and I think now is the point where that doesn't go unpunished. I am fine with lynching either of them today.

[Spiffeh]

Doesn't mean the slot isn't still scum!

[Spiffeh]

^ That was worded badly but you know what I mean.

[Spiffeh]

Are the Drixx subs' posts making anyone else more confident in that slot being scum?

They seem very concerned with pushing the whole "I'm still reading" shtick. Seems paranoid to me frfr

[Spiffeh]

Edward Allen Pro what do you think of the Drixx slot?

[Spiffeh]

I'm on page 10 so this catch up might take longer than expected. But I intend to read all the pages though as I'm not one to wing it. Please don't lynch until I'm all caught up.

This didn't strike you as paranoia?

[Spiffeh]

Oh I actually read that with the "me" whoops

[Spiffeh]

I was turned off by Drixx's long, wordy posts that said very little, to nothing about the actual gamestate.

I am townreading mostly everyone that's actually active and definitely wouldn't be surprised if the majority of scum were lurking.

Still wouldn't mind an Elli lynch.

[Spiffeh]

I think spiffeh is scum. She went after me for taking a while to catch up and is now calling out the other replacement who's catching up for being oaranojd.

Spiffeh seems eager to change the tides of what's happening (elli scum maybe?) And is quite clearly paranoid. If that slot is town I'll be shocked

I'm a guy.

I feel perfectly justified in calling you out. At the time you had been subbed in for a week and had still contributed nothing. I understand catching up can take awhile but I feel if it takes a week then what's the point of subbing in the first place? Plus, I had a lot of town reads (and still do) and could definitely see scum using this as a strategy to skate by unnoticed.

I called Warped out for being paranoid because I misread one of there posts. That should be pretty clear if you ISO me. I have also stated that the Drixx slot is a scumread of mine so that's why I've been a bit harder on the sub.

[Spiffeh]

Ok no one wants to vote Drixx slot fsr
UNVOTE:

Idk hiplop seems townier now that he's out of catch up mode. Ellibereth has still done nothing of value/worth and am not a fan of the other options atm.

I have too many null reads so I'm gonna try to look into them more before I cast my next vote.

[Spiffeh]

Is there a reason so many people are so against the Elli wagon?

I think the hiplop one is way worse.

PEdit: HOLY

[Spiffeh]

I could see Nic being scum. It seems a little arbitrary to me though. Like there several other players itg that have been fairly useless this day (myself included) so why him specifically?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Ellibereth

The NicCage wagon looks too arbitrary to me. Still don't know why he was getting votes for "doing nothing" when that describes at least half the player list this day.

I still hold to the fact that Drixx was scummy as fuck.

[Spiffeh]

It's ok Elbirn it's easy to say those things when I have spoilers