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What is up my dudes and dudettesBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Why would you claim that farside
Facepalm
P-edit: no we can't lynch yet silly BeeBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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In post 45, grapes wrote:beeboy did you miss my question
pedit: just chilling honestly gonna cook out
pedit: cakes might be scum
McMenno stop fishingBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Ye you know what you did
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I am going to take this approach to flavor since I have no idea about the show (which is something I should fix <.<)In post 116, Firebringer wrote:I still don't get it, and I am not going to attempt to figure it out.
Ignorance is bliss.
How are you liking that fence?McMenno wrote:
don't know if I believe youIn post 109, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Cerb, we are dirty no good thieves, stealing all the good ideas.
~VeggieWoman
with 2 mason pairs (presumably) anything's possible I guessBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I didn't know you wanted a responseIn post 128, Reasonably Rational wrote:SC, Obi-Wan: Neither of you responded to my very selective ally invitation.
-Cerb
Wtf? How is this image relevant at all lolIn post 133, McMenno wrote:In post 126, SirCakez wrote:
I am going to take this approach to flavor since I have no idea about the show (which is something I should fix <.<)In post 116, Firebringer wrote:I still don't get it, and I am not going to attempt to figure it out.
Ignorance is bliss.
How are you liking that fence?McMenno wrote:
don't know if I believe youIn post 109, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Cerb, we are dirty no good thieves, stealing all the good ideas.
~VeggieWoman
with 2 mason pairs (presumably) anything's possible I guess
Also wtfIn post 301, Firebringer wrote:Mastin is probably town, but I still have her in my lynch pool
I'm still open for allying, I wanted to ally with Mastin but that's out the window now.
Almost bby want to ally?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Who is this even aimed at?In post 373, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:How is McMenno strange? Let's poke there more. See if we cannot get clearer thoughts.
I haven't actually allied with him yet, I'm waiting on a responseIn post 398, grapes wrote:Alliances:
grapes/chara
fire/shiro
obi/rr
skybird/foxbird
cakes/a50
yume/farside
Unaligned:
Creature
SnarkySnowman
randomidget
Seraphim
Xkfyu
CooLDoG
killthestory
McMenno
TheWayItEnds
DrippingGoofball
Klingoncelt
kraskaesque
You're in my scum pool so noIn post 400, McMenno wrote: @cakez would you be interested in an alliance, obi-wan is already taken. I promise you that it will be a very lucrativre endeavor for you, I'll spill the beans in the pt
Well now you're in mine too with this reactionIn post 438, kraskaesque wrote:lmao wtf are we doing in ppl's scum poolsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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lol asking your scum buddy for an alliance?In post 444, McMenno wrote:
your lossIn post 441, SirCakez wrote: You're in my scum pool so no
@kraskaesque how would you feel about an alliance
This has already been pointed out by multiple people but this is painfully scummy. Titus is never this floppy as town.In post 456, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@Cerby, I feel so lost during this phase knowing scum cannot push anyone. That gives me direction. You two seem bold and leaders. If you could vote, where would you want my vote to be and why? Note:Farside, Mastina, grapes and Klingon don't really seem like good options to me. Whenever I think someone is scummy, they go be all townie and I am all like I dunno.
And Beeboy has barely posted since gamestart which is very worrisome.
You should actually explain this.In post 477, kraskaesque wrote:mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)
Ok I sent in the request. It will be worth it.In post 515, Almost50 wrote:
Sure, why not! It's a BIG gamble on my part, I know (bc .. you know .. in the majority of games we were of opposite alignments), but a very good player IMHO and if you're town here then we rock!!In post 355, SirCakez wrote:I'm still open for allying, I wanted to ally with Mastin but that's out the window now.
Almost bby want to ally?
I'll submit the request right now
Time for some early reads!
Town pool = Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Scum pool = Mcmenno, kraskaesque, obi
Special slot who gets their own corner because I can't read them = reasonably rational
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McMenno scumread for fishing and awkward as hell reactions when being called out for itIn post 600, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@SC, Explain that McMenno scumread and the NC townread please SC.
You do also realize by immediately hopping in and chainsawing me you've all but absolved RR from answering the question about who they would vote now?
NC townread for posts that look like blatant newbtown (i;e any of it's posts on the first 5 pages)
I'm not chainsawing you?
RR can still answer the question if they want.
I thought it was obvious the "masons" were a jokeBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Wait mastin if you thought the Mason claims were legit why did you have both Obi and I in the scumread section of your list earlier?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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It's not even the question I found scummy, it was the way it was worded
"oh I don't know what to do my scumreads get all townie all the time give me things to do" etcBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Newbtown = someone new to mafia who is making posts that look like thoughts town would make the first time they play mafia
For example you usually see lots of apologizing for little things, analysis over game mechanics, openly discussing reads very early on, etc
It's like how I played in my first forum mafia game where I was townBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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You were doing these things early on, which is how it applies to you. Thought that was clear, mb.In post 612, Not Chara wrote:
i know the definition, i was asking how it applied to me. still, thank you for the information.In post 610, SirCakez wrote:Newbtown = someone new to mafia who is making posts that look like thoughts town would make the first time they play mafia
For example you usually see lots of apologizing for little things, analysis over game mechanics, openly discussing reads very early on, etc
It's like how I played in my first forum mafia game where I was town
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*shrug* Still you neutered it. Half of what I look for is the reactions I get when fishing for reads. Who defends whom? Who votes the opposite wagon under pressure? Push comes to shove, where do the values lie?In post 607, SirCakez wrote:It's not even the question I found scummy, it was the way it was worded
"oh I don't know what to do my scumreads get all townie all the time give me things to do" etc
Anyone who has played with RR knows that straight up asking them for reads doesn't work and I wanted to sort the nebulous things around them (NC not having a read there). I can and do feel lost without reactions.
We have lost that baseline for judging RR.
They might have still answered it the way you wanted but now they probably won't.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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That was a good explanation, thanks.In post 668, kraskaesque wrote:
we very quickly townread mcmenno in hydra pt from past games we've both been in with him. i think he's behavior is consistent, and kraska has caught scum!mcmenno before. we thought anyone wanting to ally a hydra might be town, which is why i went silent after asking for the hydras to ally us, because i wasn't being serious by it and suggested kraska (who is kind of active heading here) find someone else to ally. mcmenno approaching us/kraska looked very good.In post 599, SirCakez wrote:
You should actually explain this.In post 477, kraskaesque wrote:mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)
kraska worded it strange by saying lone scum. we thought the not-hydras asking a hydra to ally could be a towntell.In post 632, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
This is the context. Searching for an SK is outright scummy and suggests Kraska isn't town because he thinks McMenno could be an SK. Hence why lone scum had to be explained.In post 546, kraskaesque wrote:
because lone scum is unlikely to approach a town hydra for an allyIn post 543, CooLDoG wrote:
y?In post 477, kraskaesque wrote:mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)
~lycan
Farside, Yume always prod dodges until eventually getting replaced. Not sure what you mean about being "antagonistic"Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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First off
VOTE: Obi
*off topic*In post 681, DrippingGoofball wrote:
That too. I don't understand why s/he's not banned.In post 680, SirCakez wrote:Yume always prod dodges until eventually getting replaced
She has a game restriction on her main but not on her alt which is stupid.
*end off topic*These votes reek. Creature is like perfect null right now.
Wtf?
Can you translate this?In post 754, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'll go bullet points.
21 early mason claim. whyyyyyyy (and yes 24 is just as scummy, joke or not -__-)
206 "oh wait being a mason is a joke"
217 "I believe obi / cakez claim".........................................................................
217 **Cakez note
602 farside is fake af
tl;dr "obi is scum for doing more or less same shit as me"
+a few other reasons but this is fine for now.
and that Cakez note. Farside do you still townread Cakez?
Vote farside guys
How is she calling Obi scum for doing the same thing as her?
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I liked this post from Creature and his other ones on pg 32In post 780, Creature wrote:Reasonably's and Not Chara's posts don't look like scum's for me.
I am feeling like this could be Firebringer's scum game.
Meanwhile, you're forcing my opinions.
I can buy this claim from Mastin. She was already a strong townread.In post 850, mastin2 wrote:
It's not an ally.In post 845, TheWayItEnds wrote:i mean you could have not just blind allied just cause it seemed like the cool thing to do.
It's permanent.
Game-long power.
Now if you don't mind, I'd like to keep at least some facets of my role private until it's flipped so don't prod me further on this.
Next post I will!In post 889, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@Cakez can you give us some updated reads pls.
@Almost can you do more things please.
~Bee
They haven't changed much.
I don't buy itIn post 935, Killthestory wrote:when i said i was gonna obvtown it i meant legit i was ic tho for real
There was a guy who fakeclaimed IC in MGSV Mafia. Was funny.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Updated reads
Town: Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Nulltown: Yume, Creature, Klingon, A50, CoolDog
Null: Kraskaesque, KTS, Foxbird, Skybird, Seraphim, Random, TWIE, Shiro, DGB
Nullscum: Xkfyu, Snarky
Scum: Mcmenno, Obi
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Wait is Yume conftown via mastin?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Then what is this from Sera O.oIn post 942, Seraphim wrote: Creature is mystrongest non-Mastin/Yume townread(i.e. based purely on play).Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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It's a general commentBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This was a fuckup on my part. I forgot about the posts you made that I liked on pg 32.
So you can be nulltown.
Snarky OMGUSing me is ROFLBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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So this was a fuckup within a fuckup, nice.In post 1057, Not Chara wrote: you already had Creature is nulltown in your last readslist. i think he was talking about when you said, in response to Creature votes, that Creature is "perfect null".
I really dislike people who vote for extremely null players or contentless players, because they are usually scum fishing for easy mislynches. So when I saw two naked votes dogpile on Creature, I immediately disliked them.
I will give you this first part, I haven't been putting any real effort in so far and it's obviously causing me to be read incorrectly. So I'm going to work harder on putting in real content.In post 1072, grapes wrote: Nothing he's said has felt genuine and a lot of his thoughts are surface level.
Even very early game I thought his tone felt off and his stances are hard to follow. Like his menno read is for fishing and he's stayed far too sticky and confident there considering mcmenno has done some town things.
Obi-wan vote was pretty bad. It's either scum fanning the flames of a tvt or cakes sawing for chara.
The second part - what town things are you referring to from McMenno? Nothing has stuck out to me from him, almost everything he's posting is just fluff and useless. I know he can contribute more.
Final point - I don't understand what was wrong with this vote? Obi has been a scumread for me since pregame.
See below quote
(thanks for this Creature)In post 1122, Creature wrote:Seriously, look at her scumreads:
Not Chara is new.In post 1104, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:ScumReads
Not Chara
Kraskaeaque (kraska77 + lycanfire)
Seraphim
SnarkySnowman
Creature
Kraskaesque are a hydra of newer players.
Seraphim and SnarkySnowman are know as lynchbaits.
grapes sees me as extremely lynchable.
This is a great example of a post that sucks from Obi. All of those scumreads are lurkers and lynchbait. Nothing risky.Really hate this vote from Snarky, again. He never responded to my request to explain his farside scumread and he jumped back here anyway, despite the fact he's been fairly active for what he usually is.
I saw later on this page that you changed your read on me to scum after some review.In post 1161, farside22 wrote: The bottom part that snarky never responded to.
Was this the only thing you were townreading me for? Feels pretty flimsy.
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Could you explain this?In post 1178, grapes wrote:Not Chara is obvscum.
I'm struggling to get past my newbtown read on it despite the fact most of my townreads are scumreading her.
This post was definitely bad. Outing grapes's role like that is terrible and pointless and I feel like the vote is more because she's trying to push off someone pushing her then because of the role.In post 1188, Not Chara wrote:to anyone thinking of allying with grapes: you will not receive any bonuses you would normally get from allying with a player. and no, no need to bother checking. grapes never said this in the thread. or anywhere. i was told by Varsoon when our alliance was created. grapes' name was not specifically mentioned, but i have a hard time believing the cause was anything other than their role.
VOTE: grapes
pedit: ha.
This is a strong post from Sera, like some others noted.In post 1189, Seraphim wrote:I'm on the fence about a lot of players but here are some thoughts and reads I've had.
farside is town (Even though I will probably get accused of buddying w/e). A high level of engagement with the game and probably the game's strongest scumhunter currently. Which is why Snarky is really hard to read. On the one hand, the push is bullshit. On the other hand, they are putting themselves out there very strongly with their bullshit read/case thing. I'm uncertain as of this moment if that's because Snarky is scum caught with their pants down and now forced to push the read until they can weasel their way out of it OR they are town who genuinely believe what is actually not a fantastic scumread at all. So I'm sitting on that one.
SirCakez and McMenno are two other scumreads I have. If a wagon emerged on either on them, I would definitely join in. grapes has largely outlined a fairly excellent case on Cakez, but there is a strong tendency of surface level play, a going through the motions of engagement. McMenno has been lurking in the wings and also rolefishing super hard. I think every player here wants more answers in terms of role shit but McMenno's questioning of Mastin seemed like scum using the pretense of that lack of information to try and secure a lynch.
I wanted to pressure TWIE almost more than I scumread them. If that makes sense. See if I could beetlejuice them into the thread.
Same thing with Xkfyu. The big difference here being that they showed up and made some other awful posts.
I am really not sure what people are seeing in Not Chara as scum.
I agree with basically everything said here except for the scumread on me obviously, but I can see where he's coming from on that read.
Feel good enough to move Sera to nulltown.
I really hate wagon resistance arguments. They are almost never accurate, you'll see town wagons get resistance just as often as scum wagons. It's not a viable way to read a wagon target unless it's very close to the end of the day and the player count is low enough that scum wouldn't be bussing.In post 1194, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: You mean four players, all universally regarded as town, and the wagon doesn't take?
Almost50, myself, Yume, and mastina are all on the NC wagon. The NC wagon is facing major resistance.
Why wouldn't scum be hopping on here if the wagon was wrong as a method of discrediting those on the wagon if it was wrong?
This reminds me very much of the wagon on LQ in Sudoken Mafia.
This is not relevant to my Chara read, I just think this argument is terrible.
This is the kind of explanation I was needing re; chara, thanks.In post 1233, grapes wrote:
This is a terrible fucking post.In post 1177, Not Chara wrote:i could be convinced onto a Snarky wagon depending on how he answers, but i don't think i will be happy about it.
i could wagon grapes. will join the Rational wagon in good cheer if i don't see anything else i like/no one will follow me on OWK. though i've already given up there for today, so.
grapes: are you still townreading Snarky?
It's literally talking out of all three sides of its mouth here.
I'd wagon snarky, could wagon grapes, but also don't mind that wagon grapes is pushing the loudest, oh hey grapes what's your read on snarky?
Like this kinda post just doesn't come from town I'm fucking sorry.
Reactionary pushes are on me + obi. Like reread them more in depth without your "newbs can't be scum for some reason" filter.
Moving it to nullscum because of this, the post I quoted earlier and the fact I feel pretty good about everyone pushing it.I'm not sure why you're asking this, considering your huge scumread on me?
About 3 or so pages left, will drop updated reads then.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This first part is outright false, and is easilyIn post 1303, Not Chara wrote:"grapes hasn't investigated or attempted to sort reads with anyone this game" is what i was agreeing with.
also "hey, this is true. yes, grapes is scum. thank you. :>" was partially sarcasm. the thank you part.
I think this was aimed at me.In post 1316, farside22 wrote: Another player call cakes giving surface level reads.
Your calling that fucking town.
Your letting that lurk while you howl at all that they need to agree with you or explain themselves.
I was not lurking, I was at school where I don't have MS access, and then I was on a bike ride all afternoon because it was nice out. So, not lurking.
It probably wouldn't ally you again if it's scum, you realize?In post 1339, grapes wrote:If we somehow don't lynch chara today I'm allying him again so he can't use his scumfuck alliance ability or w/e.
Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea.In post 1344, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: This compromise is hogwash according to the rules.
Why can't Cakey be the one to align with grapes? After all, those two are townreading each other so something productive may come of us.
A grapes/NC alliance just kills talking in a hood guaranteed.
Almost50 can confirm this.
RR is still stupidly null. I'll have to make a concerted effort to try to read them and I really don't want to mess with that today, especially considering my questionable record reading Cerb (see: open 623, space dandy 2).In post 1371, grapes wrote:EVERYONE NOT VOTING CHARA CAKES OR RR EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE TOWN OR HOP THE FUCK OFF YOUR SHITTY VANITY WAGON THANKS
My problem with voting NC is that Obi is pushing them hard and Obi is a stronger scumread for me then Chara. I know Titus doesn't like bussing, so I'm hesitant to go to NC.
This is another weak readslist from Obi.In post 1383, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: I came around on Cakey as being a partner of NC due to the rule of 3.
DGB I kinda get. I haven't seen anything scummy from them though.
I doubt RR is scum, but I respect your opinion they are playing me.
CoolDog I just can't trust in my gut.
I agree on KTS town but I understand Beeboy's concerns (which I can't relay without ruining our entire game; don't ask).
Right now I'm at Creature + NC + Cakey + Redacted as a team but Redacted is withheld due to being a moonshot right now.
The scumread on me sounds like it's made up to fit with the general consensus of the town. "Rule of 3" is sketchy as hell.
DGB and RR reads are fencesits
The CoolDog scumread (?) is just "can't trust them" which also stinks.
P-edit: NC's last post also feels like dejected town, kinda like how I react when I'm about to be mislynched. I'm a sucker for AtE though.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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So
Yume has moved to town since Mastin apparently has something that makes her town
Sera is up to nulltown for that really good post he made
NC is down to null for the reasons I explained in the catchup, no longer nullscum because of the Obi push + it's last reaction feels legit
I am moving CoolDog down to null because I'm not sure where my nulltown read on him came from in the first place and he seems to be avoiding the real points of contention, i;e what his read on NC and RR are
I don't buy KTS's IC claim at all so he stays null
So yeah my scumreads remain the same
There is probably at least 2 scum among my nulls
Town: Fire, mastin, grapes, farside, Yume
Nulltown: Creature, Klingon, A50, Seraphim
Null: Kraskaesque, KTS, Foxbird, Skybird, Seraphim, Random, TWIE, Shiro, DGB, NC, CoolDog
Nullscum: Xkfyu, Snarky
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No, you're obviously town and I don't fake reads as town (cough Titus college mafia cough)In post 1410, Firebringer wrote:
Cakez put me as scum, I have you as scum.In post 1403, SirCakez wrote:Town: Fire, mastin, grapes, farside, Yume
its only fair.
A little more about NC: I think it's flip would be very informative, but I don't want to info lynch now because I've got some strong scumreads that need death a lot more then NC.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Check back thereIn post 1418, Almost50 wrote:
I guess I can give it a shot. SC has not been talking much to me so far, and it feels like my first episode alliance with him didn't even help me get a more confident read about himIn post 1101, grapes wrote:If any of my townreads are down. Would like a new ally.
I had thought of him to be town based on the very fact he requested to ally with me. I'm usually suspicious of him bc whenever we play in the same game we're of different alignments. This has been the case in most of our previous games together and it lead me to always be suspicious of him, so wanting to be in a PT with me I thought meant he was town for sure.
But the lack of communication in that PT is starting to worry me. I have yet to check beyond this post I'm responding to to see if he had been posting in this game at all.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Ah the way it was worded confused me, and also some people have been accusing me of lurking so thought you might have been adding to that
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Oh neat a McMenno wagon
I've been interested in this wagon for forever, and Obi soft-defending him makes me feel even better about it
VOTE: McMenno
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Wat?In post 1443, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Here's a hard defense.In post 1440, SirCakez wrote:Oh neat a McMenno wagon
I've been interested in this wagon for forever, and Obi soft-defending him makes me feel even better about it
VOTE: McMenno
also grapes you don't need to explain your NC scumread anymore fyi
No scumfuck.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Ok so Titus doesn't want to bus her buddyIn post 1447, farside22 wrote:
There saying they won't be joining the wagon because your on it.In post 1445, SirCakez wrote:
Wat?In post 1443, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Here's a hard defense.In post 1440, SirCakez wrote:Oh neat a McMenno wagon
I've been interested in this wagon for forever, and Obi soft-defending him makes me feel even better about it
VOTE: McMenno
also grapes you don't need to explain your NC scumread anymore fyi
No scumfuck.
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You're being very confbiased.In post 1456, mastin2 wrote:
Now what was it I wasIn post 1440, SirCakez wrote:Oh neat a McMenno wagon
I've been interested in this wagon for forever, and Obi soft-defending him makes me feel even better about it
VOTE: McMenno
also grapes you don't need to explain your NC scumread anymore fyijustgoing on about?
I'm not absolutely certain.
But I'm pretty sure McMenno is town here.
That he's obviously a counterwagon to not one not two but THREE players I'd call almost-guaranteed scum (SirCakez, RR, and NotChara) certainly does no favor to the idea of him being scum.
I mean.
That kind-of screams scum counterwagon to me.
It should be clear why this is being wagoned.
Lol this scumread got really strong really fast.Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: No I am not joining it because SC is attempting to wagon town and he's scum.
It was just because of "rule of three" earlier.
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Like to elaborate mastin I think you're just fitting things to fit your list and not actually analyzing anything outside of that
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I actually would like to ally with mastin because of very strong role-related reasons that A50 can correlate
But that's not going to happen until she realizes her read is wrong :/Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Hey Titus
Where is beeboy?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Tell him to post here more.
Gonna keep avoiding this?In post 1465, SirCakez wrote:Lol this scumread got really strong really fast.
It was just because of "rule of three" earlier.
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^clarification, first line was referring to Titus, she should tell beeboy to post here moreBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I'm trying to avoid flaming since I've been told that it's annoying and a dirty tactic to use
But like damn I'm irritated right now
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What even is it?Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Not avoiding it.In post 1479, SirCakez wrote:Tell him to post here more.
Gonna keep avoiding this?In post 1465, SirCakez wrote:Lol this scumread got really strong really fast.
It was just because of "rule of three" earlier.
P-edit: You should talk to grapes about that so he can follow through on it if it's worth it NC
Rule of 3 isn't weak
Your chainsawing on NC's behalf is obvious too.
My townreading everyone pushing NC except for you is chainsawing?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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NC I feel like your scumread on grapes is sourcing from your frustration with how he's reading you moreso then his play
As a veteran of Varsoon games, his role is not a good reason to scumread him for
And I think his play itself has been very town
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Yeah could you elaborate on that?
His sorting efforts look real in thread, but if you're scumreading him based on PT posting then no one else will understand it.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I have no idea what this first line meansIn post 1491, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@Cakey, Wow. Again, the annoyed comment. The unjustified mean, annoying, uncooperative tunneler meme again.
You are looking for spots to attack on the NC wagon. I am the only spot you could. You have to discredit me, because otherwise the problem of 4 townies exists.
If I was scum and wanted to attack people on the NC wagon, why wouldn't I be going for lurking A50 or grapes who is already scumreading me and being scumread by NC? Like out of the non-confirmed people on the NC wagon you are literally the worst choice for scum-me to go after.
Ok I'm quite interestedNot Chara wrote:SirCakez: i've talked a lot about what bothers me about grapes in the thread, as well. i've also mentioned our neighbourhood many of those times, but you're the first player to actually seem interested in talking about that.
894 is where i expressed interest in sorting grapes through our hood. you can see my conclusions well enough in the posts mentioning grapes that follow.
i'll give you the summary in a second.
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That was poorly worded. More like a lot less active as compared to you and grapes.
That's dodging the point of that question though.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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You are clearly dodging the pointIn post 1500, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
No it isn't. In no universe is A50 a lurker. We both know he's town. I was the target of last resort.In post 1497, SirCakez wrote:That was poorly worded. More like a lot less active as compared to you and grapes.
That's dodging the point of that question though.
The point is that A50 or grapes would have been easier and better pushes for me to make as scum
You haven't said anything about that at all
No one knows that meme here lelKillthestory wrote:Protect me for a free win~Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This is pretty bad if it's trueIn post 1508, Not Chara wrote:Varsoon got back to me immediately.
grapes and Not Chara neighbourhood:
Spoiler: play-by-play
okay, i'm really getting tired of this. tl;dr: grapes asked a bunch of useless questions, did not engage with me at all, and ignored almost all of my commentary about the game in favour of responding badly to all of my attempts to getanythingout of them. this is after grapes said they wanted to sort me in the hood. you can see my requests for specific points against my OWK read spilling into the thread.
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STILL dodging this I seeIn post 1506, SirCakez wrote:
You are clearly dodging the pointIn post 1500, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
No it isn't. In no universe is A50 a lurker. We both know he's town. I was the target of last resort.In post 1497, SirCakez wrote:That was poorly worded. More like a lot less active as compared to you and grapes.
That's dodging the point of that question though.
The point is that A50 or grapes would have been easier and better pushes for me to make as scum
You haven't said anything about that at all
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This is outright false, just look at the quotes I have belowIn post 1528, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Not a dodge. The pair are unassailable. That's my point.In post 1527, SirCakez wrote:
STILL dodging this I seeIn post 1506, SirCakez wrote:
You are clearly dodging the pointIn post 1500, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
No it isn't. In no universe is A50 a[youtube][/youtube] lurker. We both know he's town. I was the target of last resort.In post 1497, SirCakez wrote:That was poorly worded. More like a lot less active as compared to you and grapes.
That's dodging the point of that question though.
The point is that A50 or grapes would have been easier and better pushes for me to make as scum
You haven't said anything about that at all
Calling it a night now
This post says outright there are allegegations against A50In post 1540, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Every single allegation about Sera, Almost50, McMenno, and others is lurking, yet not a single one remembers Klingon.
And here is someone pushing grapes right nowIn post 1542, Klingoncelt wrote:
VOTE: GrapesIn post 1050, grapes wrote:So far my scummish pile is foxbird/shiro/klingon. They all feel like they're coasting and I haven't seen much from them that gives me any reason to think that they're trying solve the game at all.
Klingon is the worst because she's made the most posts and they've all been noise outside of a few bad questions and a forced SR on fire which doesn't feel like something she believes in.
Your white-knighting for Firebringer is noted.
And he is a Scumread.
Hey, Townies, my vote on Grapes is sheep-worthy.
They're not "unassailable"
We're not lynching Chara, her reaction where she gave up was town AFIn post 1576, grapes wrote:Cakes if we're lynching chara you ally me tonight or it's a scumclaim.
Can you respond to her analysis of what went down in the hood between you two?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This post grapesIn post 1398, Not Chara wrote:i give up.
that doesn't mean i'm going anywhere. i'll be here to talk all night. if SirCakez is scum then i'll buy OWK as town. out of my 'buddies', SirCakez is the one most likely to be scum. i don't even know if anyone is townreading him anymore. Rational could also be scum but honestly i'd rather see them investigated, or something. i'd say something snide about OWK at this point but i promised myself i wouldn't interact with them anymore.
i almost want to be lynched just to watch mastin, OWK, and grapes experience some form of online whiplash. for varying reasons, because mastin is town.
for the record, i don't think i'll be lynched today. those who have expressed support have already voted. there might be a few lazy stragglers/lurking scum who might join, but i don't see them reaching a majority. i'll see if i can't continue to put my foot in my mouth for the rest of the day, though.
town i am 95% sure on is Firebringer, farside, Yume, mastin, and Seraphim.
i am 100% certain there is a scum on my wagon. it's probably grapes. it could be grapes and OWK. it is... possibly Almost50, but if both grapes and OWK are scum i would not bet money on it.
VOTE: SirCakez
pedit: oh, fantastic. Cakez changed his read on me after one post while i was typing this. now this will look reactionary. because this game wasn't difficult enough.
Skybird, we aren't having a fight. grapes is scum. i outed that because they're scum and also because grapes was looking to ally with other town players.
The feeling I get from the post is super similar to the one I usually get as town getting mislynched, super frustrated and dejected
Yeah it's just Klingon but someone is pushing you. That's not "unassailable".grapes wrote:
Yea but look who it is. LOLIn post 1578, SirCakez wrote:And here is someone pushing grapes right now
I did respond and nothing about what he said went down in the hood isn't just stretched to try and make me look bad.
There's only so much I can do while being active in thread during an 8 hour period. His posts in the hood aren't town.
That is what I was concerned about which is why I want your perspective on it.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I have been over this more then once, please read my ISO. Currently I'm townreading her because her reaction to being pushed looked town and Titus is pushing her, and I know Titus doesn't like bussingIn post 1585, Skybird wrote:Sir Cakez, can you explain your town read on NC? Or point me to the post where you explained it? What do you think about NC outing Grapes' role?
p-edit: I'll be back this evening.
I don't understand how this applies to me? I think you're town.In post 1586, Yume wrote:Well, I was gonna try and remain calm, but 1582 triggers me, given how many times I was frustrated at being mislynched and wasn't town read for it, yet he gets a pass due to that very same frustration?
Ok having read through this and NC's view of it, to me it just sounds like you two both developed scumreads on each other at around the same time and are now both being biased about what happened in the hood. Both of your claims of the events in the hood are the same, just with different spins on it.In post 1587, grapes wrote:I asked him what his reads were and he threw a bunch of naked ones at me.
I told him I'd look into his obi push, realized his iso was a labryth and asked him to summarize why he they were scum in a few sentences.
He drops an entire case in there with bulletpoints.
And at that point. Between all the "can't wait to talk tonight" and "ill be around for a while" stuff.
It just wasn't a good vibe.
Asked him if he'd be willing to claim. He was townreading me but it was hard to get a sense of how strong.
Said he doesn't trust me. That's fine.
But of the questions I asked. My questions about obi seemed to illicit the most reaction. Which makes sense being his top scumread.
Titus towned up a fuck of a lot from day start and that was one of the things I noticed so figured I'd ask about it.
And I remember not resonating with his push at all. Like the things he was bringing up felt more like small forgivable slight inconsistancies that I'd make pushes for as scum. Particularly people like titus who isn't always easy to understand anyway.
My judgment call was. Yes, this push is omgus and malicious and not genuine. At that point I disengaged from the hood and put full focus in the thread on pushing my scumreads.
Later he says "you know for someone who claims to sort in hoods you sure aren't sorting me"
This is posturing.
Later finally he brings up that he didn't gain any alliance bonuses and asked me if it could have anything to do with me.
Before I can respond, he votes me in thread for concluding that my role is more likely to be a scum role.
So where from day start until then did the realization happen that he didn't get alliance bonuses because of me?
When it was the most convenient for him.
I think it's highly likely this is a T v T.
<.<In post 1596, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@SirCakez - I'm sorry, I meant unassailable with anything true. Kinda figured that was evident.
I'm going to drop this because it's going nowhere.
I was trying to make sure grapes didn't think I was just full of shit and making something up.In post 1643, Almost50 wrote:Reminder:
Please do NOT refer to anything we talk about in the hood in public unless it's ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
"Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea." would have sufficed in this case.
Except for Titus, yeah it looks like it.In post 1658, grapes wrote:Scum are bussing.
No, Titus's reads are from scum and bad.In post 1691, Almost50 wrote:
You telling me I put 2 (and a half) scum in my event?? Am I THAT bad??In post 1552, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I am at NC Creature Cakez klingon CoolDog X, add DGB/Fire if wrong?
Why would you even ask this unless you have a really good reason to ally with conftown?In post 1707, McMenno wrote:how about...
I ally with mastin? and then we'll see what happens
do we have a deal here ladies and gents
on the condition that I am not lynched, of course
RTFT, this should be incredibly obviousIn post 1712, kraskaesque wrote:Why is Mcmenno being Wagoned?
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More and more misrepIn post 1831, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: Cakey who does nothing and chainsaws me on behalf of NC.
I'm developing some new scumreads, but I wanna talk them over in the alliance PTs first.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Even if you're somehow town it's still misrepIn post 1849, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: For shits and giggles, try answering as if I'm town for a change, because you'll have to soon enough.
Like when you said I was faking my reads in college mafia, like I mentioned earlier
Yes, and her early posting felt like newbtownIn post 1855, Skybird wrote: That's it? You are town reading her because her post makes you feel like you feel when you get mislynched as town? (post 1582) She also voted you in that post you liked. Did that have anything to do with your town read?
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They sure looks similar to meIn post 1871, grapes wrote:
This is why cakes is scum ftr.In post 1847, SirCakez wrote:
Ok having read through this and NC's view of it, to me it just sounds like you two both developed scumreads on each other at around the same time and are now both being biased about what happened in the hood. Both of your claims of the events in the hood are the same, just with different spins on it.In post 1587, grapes wrote:I asked him what his reads were and he threw a bunch of naked ones at me.
I told him I'd look into his obi push, realized his iso was a labryth and asked him to summarize why he they were scum in a few sentences.
He drops an entire case in there with bulletpoints.
And at that point. Between all the "can't wait to talk tonight" and "ill be around for a while" stuff.
It just wasn't a good vibe.
Asked him if he'd be willing to claim. He was townreading me but it was hard to get a sense of how strong.
Said he doesn't trust me. That's fine.
But of the questions I asked. My questions about obi seemed to illicit the most reaction. Which makes sense being his top scumread.
Titus towned up a fuck of a lot from day start and that was one of the things I noticed so figured I'd ask about it.
And I remember not resonating with his push at all. Like the things he was bringing up felt more like small forgivable slight inconsistancies that I'd make pushes for as scum. Particularly people like titus who isn't always easy to understand anyway.
My judgment call was. Yes, this push is omgus and malicious and not genuine. At that point I disengaged from the hood and put full focus in the thread on pushing my scumreads.
Later he says "you know for someone who claims to sort in hoods you sure aren't sorting me"
This is posturing.
Later finally he brings up that he didn't gain any alliance bonuses and asked me if it could have anything to do with me.
Before I can respond, he votes me in thread for concluding that my role is more likely to be a scum role.
So where from day start until then did the realization happen that he didn't get alliance bonuses because of me?
When it was the most convenient for him.
I think it's highly likely this is a T v T.
He's quick to write this off as tvt without giving a deeper understanding of what exactly is going on here and our takes on what happened in the hood aren't very similar at all. They're different because what chara said went down isn't what went down because its scum.
In other words.
His logic is "okay these two guys both developed opportunistic scumreads on each other out of nowhere and are both twisting what was said in a hood to make the other person look bad. Feels town on town."
One, my scumread devolved on chara far earlier. Two, that doesn't make any sense.
If someone outside of you two wants to give their take on what you and NC said that would be great
What doesn't make sense about that?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I'm super wiped out right now and there's like 10 pages I need to read
I'll catch up tomorrow morning, sorryBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I was skimming down to post to say I'm gonna start catch up now and I see Titus accusing me of lurking again?
I was inactive sitewide yesterday, the only things I did were post a little bit in games that had just opened up yesterday. Taking a 30-mile bike ride does that.
So get that shit out of here.
Catching up now.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Shiro jumping in and voting Almost gives me bad vibes.In post 1938, Shiro wrote:Vote:Almost
Guys, you should drop everything you were doing and lynch this.
It's like how I said earlier I would have taken the push on Almost to chainsaw NC because he's not super active. This feels like that.In post 1967, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: