Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

jmo16mla · Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:38 am

In post 1568, Mathdino wrote:let's be honest here guys scum is no matter what in the set of people that heavily suggested not shooting pintu

plus by lynching in that set, we don't run the risk of running up the vig

I like this.

We can compare people that were on his wagon vs against his vigging and see if there are any people that swapped over.

jmo16mla · Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:41 am

Looking back, I really want to analyze the wagon. I think it was luca bringing up the idea analyzing the VC first. I love vote analysis.

Mathdino · Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:42 am

I'm looking into how to get full wagon data from the votecount scrubber. Don't work too hard.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:42 am

In post 1650, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 1568, Mathdino wrote:let's be honest here guys scum is no matter what in the set of people that heavily suggested not shooting pintu

plus by lynching in that set, we don't run the risk of running up the vig
I like this.

We can compare people that were on his wagon vs against his vigging and see if there are any people that swapped over.

idk how about the fact someone might have townread his reaction? idk this feels kinda wrong in some way

jmo16mla · Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:50 am

Town read pintos reaction? I didiot read that part of the game if that happened. So I'm not sure what I'm looking at.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:55 am

Where I'm at rn

Mathdino - town, was right about a lot of shit d1 that I doubted him on
JaydragonKing - has been ignoring my questions, counterwagoned A50 when Pin was on the chopping block, probscum I guess
Luca Blight - also town cos I can understand their perspective on Math's push on them, also I believe they pushed Pin most of d1.
northsidegal - possibly scum, Math says they haven't been poking into things they should have and I agree kinda
Aneninen - no clue rn read is kinda in flux because I don't recall why I was voting for them that last time
Gamma Emerald - is a dummy-dumb-dumb
TheGoldenParadox - was also a dumb-dumb
jmo16mla - might be scum who vanished after faking effort or town who wanted to effort but fell behind, gonna trust Math on this but still keep my eyes peeled.
mutantdevle - idk I've kinda been flipping on him so far

VOTE: Jay

mutantdevle · Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:14 pm

In post 1620, JaydragonKing wrote:Glad your still actually reading what I'm writing. Good catch. It was Mutant on the wagon with us and not you. Great job.

This sounds a little sarcastic in the tone that I am reading it. To clarify, was saying Math was on the A50 wagon instead of myself intentional or nah?

Mathdino · Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:18 pm

Setting up the wagon data thing.

Spoiler: VoteCount Settings

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:19 pm

You forgot to put a50 in with the dead

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:19 pm

also how do I use that

mutantdevle · Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:19 pm

In post 1641, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1588, mutantdevle wrote:Just pointing out, we don't actually have to hunt the rolecop necessarily. Once we kill either of the last 2 scum they practically lose the role
(unless they are so stupid they'd rather role check someone instead of killing)
. But, in Jay's case, I guess this works as an argument they are scum.
is it silly to take it as a scum point against mutant that he knows this so readily? i went to go check the rules when i read this, and it only actually shows up in the words of the scum role pms in the spoiler in the first post.

this is kind of a point that i could see being made against me though that i would just roll my eyes at.

I'm under the impression that it's standard for scum not to be able to use an ability AND the factional kill at once?

Mathdino · Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:21 pm

Votecount 2.1

JaydragonKing(3)

~ Mathdino(33), Luca Blight(8), Gamma Emerald(7)

Not Voting (6): JaydragonKing(17), northsidegal(19), Aneninen(3), TheGoldenParadox(3), jmo16mla(4), mutantdevle(7)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-03-26 21:00:00)

It worked fine.

mutantdevle · Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:22 pm

In post 1643, Mathdino wrote:While I definitely would not want to run up mutant today, I would be a strong advocate for vigging him tonight unless anyone seriously objects.

I seriously object

Honestly though, I'd prefer to be lynched than vigged. Mainly because you could analyse my wagon for scum tells and I usually like to get final words out when I know I'm fucked.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:23 pm

@mutant It's not completely standard, it's actually a point of debate.

Mathdino · Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:26 pm

WAGONS(Sort By: Alphabetical Data Type: Simple LSort: On)Note from vote counter. These votes include any vote on or off that impacted said wagon.

Spoiler: Day 1

Spoiler: Day 2

mutantdevle · Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:26 pm

In post 1663, Gamma Emerald wrote:@mutant It's not completely standard, it's actually a point of debate.

Well, my life has been a lie.

Y'know, even if we don't win this game then at least I've learnt a few things :3

Btw, intent to put Jay to L-1 when I've finished making this string of posts. My string of posts will likely conclude with a reads list, so if Jay is put to L-1 during that time, then consider this an intent to hammer.

JaydragonKing · Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:33 pm

Oh hey that intent finally forces me to claim. Wonderful.

In post 735, JaydragonKing wrote:I've kinda tuned them out as well and have been posting non-game related stuff to get noticed and see if they'd jump for my throat so I could do something this game, but they are in their own world.

Fake
-claiming
Backup
Jailkeeper by the way.

Mathdino · Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:34 pm

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:jmo16mla (4) ~ northsidegal, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox, Luca Blight
jmo16mla (4) ~ northsidegal, Creature, Gamma Emerald, JaydragonKing

RVS jmo wagon next to the policy jmo wagon.

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:Mathdino (4) ~ JaydragonKing, TheGoldenParadox, Luca Blight, Gamma Emerald

Everyone ballsy enough to vote me.

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:northsidegal (4) ~ Creature, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox, JaydragonKing
northsidegal (4) ~ JaydragonKing, Almost50, Mathdino, Luca Blight

Early pressure wagon next to the lategame lurker wagon.

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:Gamma Emerald (6) ~ jmo16mla, Pinturicchio, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox, mutantdevle, Luca Blight

The Gamma wagon, now confirmed to be partially scum motivated.

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:Pinturicchio (6) ~ northsidegal, mutantdevle, Luca Blight, Mathdino, Almost50, JaydragonKing

The Pintu "lynch"wagon, with TheGoldenParadox's intent to hammer.

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:Aneninen (5) ~ TheGoldenParadox, Mathdino, Luca Blight, Almost50, Gamma Emerald
Aneninen (6) ~ Almost50, JaydragonKing, Mathdino, Luca Blight, Pinturicchio, mutantdevle
Aneninen (6) ~ Mathdino, Luca Blight, Almost50, Gamma Emerald, Pinturicchio, JaydragonKing

The many forms of the Aneninen wagon. All players who were on it are:
TheGoldenParadox, Mathdino, Luca Blight, Almost50, Gamma Emerald, JaydragonKing, Pinturicchio, mutantdevle.

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:mutantdevle (5) ~ Aneninen, Gamma Emerald, Mathdino, Almost50, JaydragonKing

mutant counterwagon.

In post 1664, Mathdino wrote:Almost50 (6) ~ Pinturicchio, JaydragonKing, Luca Blight, mutantdevle, TheGoldenParadox, Gamma Emerald

Shitshow of a lynch wagon.

Go to town, VCA enthusiasts.

Mathdino · Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:35 pm

In post 1666, JaydragonKing wrote:Oh hey that intent finally forces me to claim. Wonderful.

In post 735, JaydragonKing wrote:I've kinda tuned them out as well and have been posting non-game related stuff to get noticed and see if they'd jump for my throat so I could do something this game, but they are in their own world.

Fake
-claiming
Backup
Jailkeeper by the way.

Did you breadcrumb this before 735?

If we didn't have one scum dead I'd say it'd be too dangerous to counterclaim, but in this case I'm actually open to ccs.

I don't counterclaim.

VOTE: mutantdevle
on NSG's reasoning.

northsidegal · Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:41 pm

In post 1668, Mathdino wrote: VOTE: mutantdevle
on NSG's reasoning.

my reasoning where?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:42 pm

In post 1666, JaydragonKing wrote:Oh hey that intent finally forces me to claim. Wonderful.

In post 735, JaydragonKing wrote:I've kinda tuned them out as well and have been posting non-game related stuff to get noticed and see if they'd jump for my throat so I could do something this game, but they are in their own world.

Fake
-claiming
Backup
Jailkeeper by the way.

Counterclaim jailkeeper. Checkmate friendo. I targeted Mathdino n1. I was debating not doing so because he was drawing it super-obviously but after A50's flip I decided he should be kept around. Also there's a crumb I left that Mathdino and I think mutant have both noted at this point. I can quote it if needed but honestly just ctrl-f jail in my ISO and you should find it.

JaydragonKing · Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:43 pm

In post 352, JaydragonKing wrote:
In post 350, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 19, JaydragonKing wrote:I also fake claim to save my ass no matter what, so believe me at your own risk.
stop gamethrowing
I make a decision based on what is going down. And I did it in a semi-open before, so I had leeway. A clear cut thing like this Open? I won't give you the exact odds, but I will make the right call when it comes.

Appearantly last night and today is "shit on Jay" day.
Mathdino wrote:Jay that literally means I'm going autolynch you without a cc on a PR claim

You will not fakeclaim in a full open, that just draws out the real power roles

Also fuck you if you end up forcing me to check my role pm
Jumped right behind Paradox but your point still stands, and being after him doesn't really matter in this situation cuz I know you'd have said that on your own as well. You continue your own strategy and hope we don't fuck each other up.

Another reason I got really worried about paranoia for future use of my claim, because "The boy who cried wolf" is a fairy tail for a reason. Didn't want the one time I was actually a PR to to be screwed over by paranoia of past encounters.

I get too ballsy for my own good sometimes.

--- Post Edit ---

Seriously, Gamma?

northsidegal · Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:44 pm

how do you roll scum so often, elsa?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:46 pm

btw since after this lynch it's one scum remaining who should I target tonight? I'm leaning mutantdevle, but if I change my mind I will state such in clear terms.

Mathdino · Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:46 pm

I feel like shit for requesting a counterclaim. Jay breadcrumbing so damn late (after I already noted scum optimal strategy is claiming jailkeeper) was a major tell.

RIP Gamma, hope he finds the scum.

Are we good with vigging mutant and jailing NSG?