Mini 2020: Destiny III: Cosmic Mafia [終わり]

[kuribo]

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

[kuribo]

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

Me

I'm sorry but who are you

[kuribo]

hi guys

whats going on

Oh shit is that the mollie hydra


You can go between Katsuki and nacho with dibs

[kuribo]

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

excuse me

didn't you leave some1 out of your list

excuse you but I saw you post and had to go back to the sign up thread and see if it was you <3

[kuribo]

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

Bruh

You can have leftovers

[kuribo]

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

ME ME ME

This pact is sealed.

[kuribo]

Day 1 katsuki wagon is EZ Mode for scum, y'all acting like this is 2011. It's played out at this point.

[kuribo]

I'm betting at least one opportunistic scum on that wagon early on, if not two.

[kuribo]

Is it more misty or memey?

Mist can fester under the guise of meming.

[kuribo]

ah the nostalgia

Excuse me sir but if you really wanted nostalgia you'd have given me, DGB, and mollie a shared dayvig

[kuribo]

VOTE: Kuribo

When I am king you will be first against the wall

If you know anything about me you know i don't make idle threats

[kuribo]

on a slightly less serious note, kuribo seems town, despite being unwilling to vote cupcake (nobody is perfect and some mistakes can be forgiven)

pixie might be town too

The last game I saw Katsuki get wagoned without a post was Bipolar Mafia, which I modded


It might have happened in another game I was in or saw but that's the one that strikes first and foremost to my memory

Either way there's no damn way that wagon is town driven, and I'm giving the side-eye to ol' Nekkid Voting Ghost over there too

[kuribo]

I'm giving the side-eye to ol' Nekkid Voting Ghost over there too

the only thing i think is interesting about anonymousghost's vote is the whole avoiding talking about the cupcake wagon or anything that's happening with that

but it doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother you

It doesn't bother me in the cosmic sense but the time for nekkid vanity wagons is never

[kuribo]

It's like a window into LLD's mind


Thanks muffin

[kuribo]

Ah I gotcha:

Me: "Someone on this wagon is scum."

Someone: "So who's on the wagon?"
(^---this step was skipped)

Muffin: "Well it's not me so maybe it's Staeg!"

LLD: "You're trying to deflect from inevitable suspicion."

[kuribo]

Listen I play like once a year I can't keep track of who's who, know what I mean Nacho?

[kuribo]

Thanks!

[kuribo]

VOTE: Kuribo

When I am king you will be first against the wall

If you know anything about me you know i don't make idle threats

WILL THIS GAME BE THE REVIVAL OF THE KURIBO WE KNOW AND LOVE?
THE KURIBO WHO TRAVERSED GALAXIES ACROSS THE UNIVERSE TO DEATH AND DESTRUCTION UPON THE MASSES?

A lots changed over the last year since the last game I played


I spent a year losing weight, sleeping on the beach, and removing toxic influences from my life

But just because I've embraced the way of Tranquilo doesn't mean I'm about to take shit off someone I've never heard of

[kuribo]

Well this game started quickly

Oh to be young and experience a Fate game for the first time again

[kuribo]

Yeah and Kara has never been more town than right now, sorry bout y'alls damn luck

[kuribo]

Yeah and Kara has never been more town than right now, sorry bout y'alls damn luck

*Kats not Kara


My autocorrect is no longer properly trained in the way of the murdercock

[kuribo]

i dont think anything kara has said or done looks town tbh (if anything, the opposite)

It's just a feeling I get. I've known Kats longer than anyone on this site, and while I wouldn't stake the whole game on him being town right this minute or nothin like that, I do think his posts ring true.

[kuribo]

it's nai on the scummy side

That's an oxymoron unless you're just tossing out Mafia words

[kuribo]

it's nai on the scummy side

That's an oxymoron unless you're just tossing out Mafia words

I'm saying it's nai but if you're asking to pick 1 side it's scummy.

Well while I've got your attention, I disagree about the other post being NAI, and I'm guessing I know why DGB sees it that way.


I'll give you a hint: when a game starts picking g up steam, it's not uncommon for timid scum not to know where to start. That post reeks of dipping toes in the water: being seen posting while not providing any substance, illumination, or discussion. It is simply a drive by comment about the game state without any attempt to change it.

[kuribo]

As someone who knows the player better than you. You're looking way too much into it

I don't think you want to introduce that argument into the field of discussion, there are a fair number of players in this game I know better than you

One of which being LLD

[kuribo]

When I am king you will be first against the wall

If you know anything about me you know i don't make idle threats

M'kay. That's nice. Next.

I can't tell if I like your feistiness or if your smug attitude makes me want to return to the Okd Ways.

[kuribo]

*EBWOP: Old Ways

[kuribo]

Pedit2: I've played enough games with LLD to be able to read her every time she's been scum against me I've caught her

Same, so shall we go by seniority and depth of experience?

[kuribo]

Kuribo - You do you. I'm not really all that concerned about your reputation since I don't know what it is. And unless you're making threats that don't pertain to the game, meh. It's kinda what I expect from Mafia. Why change it? Stress less, you know?

Pedit2: I've played enough games with LLD to be able to read her every time she's been scum against me I've caught her

Same, so shall we go by seniority and depth of experience?

Then we have no issue here if LLD is scum we'll find her yes? I'm allowed to have my opinion on her post not being good or not just as you are on Kokichi. We can both tell the other we're incorrect all we want it's just a matter if we listen. So are you going to listen?

This is a fair compromise. The spirits are pleased.

Kuribo - You do you. I'm not really all that concerned about your reputation since I don't know what it is. And unless you're making threats that don't pertain to the game, meh. It's kinda what I expect from Mafia. Why change it? Stress less, you know?

I don't make threats, I make predictions.


And if you think this is me stressing boy howdy have you got some meta to read up on. There's a reason I left the Old Ways behind. Tranquilo, my dude.

This one is carefree. I like it.

[kuribo]

Just do what I do and say you meta'd them, it's pretty much the same percentage-wise.

Unless you're mollie and you keep detailed files on the personality tics of every single person you've ever played with.

[kuribo]

As someone who knows the player better than you. You're looking way too much into it

But you said it leaned on the scummy side

Or am I reading that wrong

She said LLD's post was on the scummy side, we were discussing my disagreement that the other player's post was NAI

[kuribo]

don't think that kokichi post is anywhere near as bad as some people are suggesting it is

You can say kuribo

I said I didn't like it, and more importantly I explained why I felt DGB didn't line it.

I'm not exactly howling for blood over it

[kuribo]

DGB probably town? That's a day 2 problem. I think DGB is town but I think I'd like to see the scumputer start chugging out results before I commit to that. Meritocracy for DGB reads.

I read DGB better than anyone on this site, it's been proven time and again over eleven years. Hell, it's one of the things I'm most proud of--- I consider her my kindred spirit on this site, and one of my closest friends from the same. I've been town with her, scum with her, hydra'd with her, and every combination you can think of. DGB as scum fears me as town, and scum me fears town DGB. I have absolute faith that I will be able to correctly discern her alignment because I always have.

But even I don't try to figure her alignment out Day 1. That's a fool's errand as you know. I like what I see so far, but I know I have time to sort out DGB. Unless I die N1, in which case: yaaaaaay! If I can't lynch scum, getting killed by them is always second best.


Honestly getting a solid read on mollie Day 1 would be a higher priority because I really want mollie to be town. Town mollie is easy to work with, readily proposes reads, and reaches out to form blocs with her town reads. Scum mollie digs her tendrils in deep to poison the well. I want her to be town.

[kuribo]

PRETTY SURE WE READ DGB BETTER THAN YOU

REMEMBER THAT ONE GAME WHERE YOU MISREAD HER AND GAVE HER A VIG SHOT OR SOMETHING AS SCUM WHILE WE WERE BUSY SCREAMING DGB+SPYSPY SCUM?

STILL BITTER ABOUT THAT GAME CLAIMED A COP GUILTY ON THEM D2 BUT THEY ROLECOPPED US N1

That was the prequel to this game, Destiny II

and the real fucked up thing is that I had literally typed out a post shooting DGB, and second guessed myself as I was about to hit submit


That was also six years ago, TDK, during the Dark Times

Things were rough in the Dark Times.

[kuribo]

Just do what I do and say you meta'd them, it's pretty much the same percentage-wise.

Unless you're mollie and you keep detailed files on the personality tics of every single person you've ever played with.

y u call me out like that kuribo I thought we were fwends

that was a compliment

[kuribo]

you haven't done that thing you do that you exclusively do as town but I really like the vibe that I am getting

i only play once a year now, and the only game i played last year i was scum

i can't remember what my town tells from two years were supposed to be lol

[kuribo]

thoughts on dunnstral?

some of their posts seem kinda, wishy-washy? I guess? Or fence-sitty. Early game jitters, I think.

This is a game with multiple big personalities and I can see the timid trying to figure out where to jump in. That isn't alignment indicative, mind you. The feysel defense doesn't quite feel genuine to me. I didn't really like him trying to make it seem as if I was making a big deal over that one post and then tossing it into Muffin's yard.

[kuribo]

What am I fence sitting on?

You voted Ghost for... reasons???? while trying to bring LLD off of Fey. You finally came along and unvoted Ghost once the posting got "better," But you never really said why you didnt like it in the first place. You also hopped right on that totes adorbs Kokicha wagon once it was socially acceptable

You just looking for a wagon, or?

[kuribo]

you're absolutely right how could i ever have missed your impeccable logic in explaining your vote

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

Me

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

[kuribo]

I didn't say I had impeccable logic in explaining my vote, I said I didn't remember joining the kokichi wagon once it became "socially acceptable". That's what you said too, by the way, but we can talk about this instead if you'd like? Why is 105 a bad post?

the real question is, why is it a good post?

[kuribo]

DGB points out something she thinks is scummy


You hop on without comment


I don't think those facts are debatable in any objective reality whether real or imagined


Is it alignment indicative? I don't seem to remember saying it was. If you think it is, hey, do you.

[kuribo]

Somifnits such a good post that you're willing to engage me to defend it, it's your turn now to explain why you think that vote was so good, especially as it was delivered without comment

[kuribo]

Kuribo's recent push on Dunn feels entirely ill-founded and I don't particularly like you either, Muffins

Don't you start, if he doesn't wanna be called out for naked voting he shouldn't naked vote

[kuribo]

Kuribo's recent push on Dunn feels entirely ill-founded and I don't particularly like you either, Muffins

Don't you start, if he doesn't wanna be called out for naked voting he shouldn't naked vote

I'm not sure what type of response is possible to it, though? Other naked votes have happened which would have just-as-good defenses as this one, and it feels

very

weird that you'd stick to the objection

I was asked about him, that's the difference. He responded, which is also the difference.

I don't know why it surprised you or strikes you as weird that I'd engage people who interact with me.

[kuribo]

And frankly it's disingenuous for you to act like that's even the first naked vote in this game I've had a problem with or called out.

[kuribo]

"Spiralled into a series of somethings?" You act like I death tunneled him for thirty pages. Why is it so important to you that I not question his actions, especially directly when asked about those same actions?

I'm not even going to address the "random words" nonsense, but mostly because I can't think of a way to say it without saying something mean or sarcastic.

[kuribo]

Raise your hand if you didn't know town was called Harmony before Fate posted that sample PM.

Of course some of you already picked up on my meaning when I posted this:

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

And that's how daddy sets the table.

[kuribo]

I am so confused with these last 2 posts

I softed the name of the town faction before Fate posted the sample PM.


I've also softed my role. Daddy eats first.

[kuribo]

Are you saying mafia don't have fake claims, or are you being intentionally obtuse

are you saying they do?

[kuribo]

Are you saying mafia don't have fake claims, or are you being intentionally obtuse

are you saying they do?

viewtopic.php?p=8665836#p8665836

that sample PM wasn't in the OP until Fate posted it just now, try again

[kuribo]

That doesn't mean anything, mod provides fake flavors, allows for full roles including win conditions if asked in pre-game

so you have insider information that you know for a fact this happened in this game?


You said "IF ASKED."

[kuribo]

fuck you.

[kuribo]

god dammit look what you made me do


THIS IS NOT THE PATH OF SERENITY

[kuribo]

I didn't make you do anything, you chose to be this way

intentionally obtuse is a carefully worded insult / indictment on my posts


you really wanna go down this road with me?

[kuribo]

I've spent the past year bettering my life, sleeping on the beach, getting into a good place, and as a result, I am a much happier person. This gels well with the fact that I really don't feel like getting suspended from the site again for telling people they have sex with farm animals.

But if you think for one damn second I'm gonna sit here and let someone call me intentionally stupid, you're in for a rude awakening

[kuribo]

I've spent the past year bettering my life, sleeping on the beach, getting into a good place, and as a result, I am a much happier person. This gels well with the fact that I really don't feel like getting suspended from the site again for telling people they have sex with farm animals.

But if you think for one damn second I'm gonna sit here and let someone call me intentionally stupid, you're in for a rude awakening

Cool, and I'm here to play mafia

sweet, let's play mafia

Vote:Dunnstral

DADDY


EATS


FIRST.

[kuribo]

Spoiler: There is more than one path to serenity

You can take Staeg's place on my party list


Nacho's out unless he brings the good shit


I expect to be dead before it comes to you and me getting to party tho

[kuribo]

Are you saying mafia don't have fake claims, or are you being intentionally obtuse

hey genius, riddle me this


if scum already have fakeclaims, then why did Fate feel the need to post a sample PM in the OP?

presumably anyone who needs a fakeclaim knows the information in it already (having already received their fakeclaim) and anyone who doesn't need a fakeclaim already has all the information that's in the sample PM.

[kuribo]

Why is everyone ignoring LLDscum?????????????????????????????????????????????

i have no strong opinion on her and even if I did stongly feel she's scum, I sure as hell don't feel like dragging the game through forty pages of her and I yelling at one another

[kuribo]

I don't know, ask Fate. Maybe he is contractually obliged by the list mod to conform to normal guidelines.

This isn't a normal game try again with your bullshit

[kuribo]

None of those weak responses change the fact that I soften the town faction before it was public.

[kuribo]

You guys, I'm starting to feel that tingling in my trousers

It's been over two years but I feel it stirring, it's bubbling

IT is awakening.

There is only one thing for which it thirsts.

[kuribo]

Then why don't you vote me?


Maybe you'll get lucky and become the third person in history to pull out a mislynch on me? (Spoiler alert: you won't)

[kuribo]

Vote you for what

So you'd rather throw shade and not back up your shade?


I asked before if some of you knew who I was, well let me clue you in

I am Fucking kuribo, Scorge of Towns, Wielder of the Murdercock, Mastina's Bane, Kuribo the Un-Fucking-Dying, the Breaker of the Commonwealth, He Who Walks Behind the Stars, The Death of a Thousand Scumteams, a man with more heads on my trophy case than I'd care to count, the Angry Serene, your favorite Mafia player's favorite mafia player, but for the ones who go head to head against me, I'm simply... The End.

[kuribo]

The alternative is letting people falsely assume you're confirmed town and potentially paying for it down the line if I die

Lmao at thinking you'll die before me when I've already repeatedly softclaimed a power role that's dangerous in the right hands. (My own)

If I'm still alive four days from now then by all means throw that shade. But I won't be.

[kuribo]

Why is everyone ignoring LLDscum?????????????????????????????????????????????

i have no strong opinion on her and even if I did stongly feel she's scum, I sure as hell don't feel like dragging the game through forty pages of her and I yelling at one another

I'm doing the yelling, you can just vote!

Help me kill this guy first


Then tonight I can turn you into something you hate and you can help me go mad with power

[kuribo]

See?


Wishywashy

[kuribo]

hi guys other head of pixie collective here

im mostly gonna be discussing things /w mollie internally bc you all terrify me for i am a delicate wallflower

but hit me up if you wanna chat or if you have xanax for sale ty glgl

Bring to me the souls of the guilty and you have nothing to fear

I don't have Xanax but have you tried sleeping on the beach

[kuribo]

RL AtE

My dear, I'm sorry but you know I don't consider this a universal tell


I myself have used RL ATE as Town many time, especially during my divorce

[kuribo]

You said "IF ASKED."

@Kuribo - Going over this again, I can pretty much understand everything about this conversation (P. 15) except this part. Why is the "if asked" important? I'm missing something...

I am not continuing this line of discussion, lest I incur the wrath of a mod I consider a friend and deeply respect

[kuribo]

I don't need points from scum.

[kuribo]

Kinda want to start an argument with Kuri bc I read angry better than I read normal.

I'd rather you didn't, I'm already on thin ice both in the game and on the site

And the reason I stopped playing mafia in the first place is because I got tired of being a hateful and toxic presence

Calling people inbred pigfucking godless whores is incredibly draining and depressing

[kuribo]

I mean the last two games I've played, I've had friends of YEARS express a desire to never play with me again

Yet I hear shit like oh if he's not mad he must be s I'm

Don't you people understand I can get just as angry as scum?

Don't y'all realize once I turn it on, I can't fucking turn it off?

Do you guys not get that I don't want to be that person?

[kuribo]

I mean the last two games I've played, I've had friends of YEARS express a desire to never play with me again

Yet I hear shit like oh if he's not mad he must be s I'm

Don't you people understand I can get just as angry as scum?

Don't y'all realize once I turn it on, I can't fucking turn it off?

Do you guys not get that I don't want to be that person?

EBWOP: "must be scum" not must be "s I'm"

[kuribo]

And for the record this is why I get LLD's frustration

She got Fucking WOTC'd out of the game before the mid overruled it


You people decided she was such a toxic individual that you'd rather not play with her at all.

You don't see why she'd be frustrated? I feel her pain, because I don't want to end up in her position where people would rather not play with me anymore. She's frustrated because she feels like DGB is baiting her, I imagine. And While I disagree on that point, I do understand how it is when you're trying to be a better site presence.

[kuribo]

I just find her scummy as hell. But now for some reason we have a player that is lynch-proof for social reasons? And declaring her scummy is perceived as baiting?

I didn't say either of those at all. I'm saying she may feel baited because of your reasoning for calling her scum. I know you see it as a universal scumtell, and we've had conversations about that very subject.

I'm also not saying she's lynchproof, but I'm saying that this particular action is not something I see as scummy. If she's scum, I want more.

Listen, we both know lynching LLD is a drawn-out, frustrating, emotional experience. She doesn't go down without a fight. If the need arises, I'm absolutely able to go toe-to-for and help push her wagon right alongside you. But I need more than "AtE."

[kuribo]

I don't know if I've ever played a game with LLD where she didn't bring up her RL stuff, regardless of her alignment

[kuribo]

God damn

I very rarely ever solidify a read on DGB day 1, simply because it's dangerous. And when I do solidify that read the first day, it's because I've caught her as scum. Divining DGB's alignment is like tasting a fine wine or conjuring a dead Erdrich abomination: its best to take your time

For once though, I feel really really comfortable calling her town now.

[kuribo]

But for the same reason, what in that old post that she quoted that you had a chance to read prior, which is essentially a series of strong misrepresentations of my reads, convinced you she was town? What on earth did she do that is outside her scum range here?

I didn't pay any attention to the post earlier, I was wrapped up in my own shit

I could try to explain but most of it goes on gut and my knowledge having played with her, against her; and the same slot as her.

You see them as strong misrepresentations; I see them as a differing of opinion on her part. Misrepresentation implies an intent to mislead. I do believe she believes the things she's saying to you.

[kuribo]

even if lld is scum she will lynch scum better than town ever cld

You're right, LLD will not hesitate to cut loose a weak member of her scum team

[kuribo]

God damn

I very rarely ever solidify a read on DGB day 1, simply because it's dangerous. And when I do solidify that read the first day, it's because I've caught her as scum. Divining DGB's alignment is like tasting a fine wine or conjuring a dead Erdrich abomination: its best to take your time

For once though, I feel really really comfortable calling her town now.

I think she is town too

any thoughts on nacho?

I like the reads, and there seems to be a logical consistency to what I know about Nacho

I don't like the activity level but it's a holiday week, so I give that a pass and call that NAI

[kuribo]

I do have to disagree with Nacho that Staeg looks super townie or whatever, because I just don't see it

[kuribo]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Figuring out someone's alignment as Town is only half the job anyway.

The other half is convincing the majority of that.

[kuribo]

I have my Dunnstral read but I'll keep it to myself for now and see how others play on it cause I expect others to sheep my Dunn read once I say it.

you might want to lower your expectations there cos I for 1 am only going to listen to my own read. I have hydras with 5 players in this game, are you going to sheep my reads on all 5 of those players?

I can read Dunnstral better than any player and that's not even a joke. I'm his bestie for over a year I think my case trumps yours but sure do as you wish it's up to you to believe me when I say it or not

I gotcha and we are about even in that respect

I will take it in consideration and ty for the intel. I think dunns looks scummy scummy scummy but you have something to counter that I am all ears cos I don't want to wind up in a needless deathtunnel.

My vote is exactly where I believe I'll stand atop a scum grave once its lynched

[kuribo]

Hey Staeg, where you at bruh?

You kinda disappeared after poking me a few times

Staaaaaeeeeeg

Come out and plaaaaayaaaaaayyyyy

[kuribo]

WE'VE MADE ENOUGH POSTS SUCH TAHT MOMMY WONT NOTICE THIS BURIED WITHIN

TIME TO SUPPORT KURIBOS OFFERING FOR THE BLOOD GODS

VOTE: DUNNSTRAL

The blood of scum helps the murdercock grow up big and strong

[kuribo]

Join us, we have cake and righteousness


Even if LLD is scum, you know she's happy to bus

[kuribo]

See?


Wishywashy

[kuribo]

It is when you're too afraid to solidify some reads early on


Who the fuck says that? "I don't think he's town but I'm not gonna vote him."


Motherfucker thinks I'm scum, motherfucker best put his vote behind it or shut the fuck up. I don't do that halfway, half shade, passive aggressive bullshit, I come at the scum head on.

If he thinks I'm scum, I wanna see some real conviction out of it, because you know what I see? I see a scum that's bitten off more than he can chew with a player he knows will drive him into the ground and now wants to back off.

Guess what? My trains don't fucking have brakes.

[kuribo]

Yeah I just got that joke


It's 4am man what do you want from me

[kuribo]

uselessly shading

Dunn seems to do a lot of that

[kuribo]

I'm not used to KuriboZen

I feel like you and I are disturbingly far apart on our reads, but this may be the reason

Don't worry, you know I'm good for my campaign promises and I already vowed to turn you into something you hate

[kuribo]

Bullshit he is

[kuribo]

But as scum, why would he bother, when the whole point of the crumb is that he should not know what the town is called, and he does? Him doing that as scum would practically require cognitive dissonance.

He was selling the idea that scum didn't know this knowledge, and everyone else was either lapping it up or too disconnected from the game to do anything about it. If he's scum he's trying to make himself look like town, that's a motivation

How bout you put your vote where your mouth is and we see who gets roped first


Then after I string you, I'm coming for your buddies

[kuribo]

WE'VE MADE ENOUGH POSTS SUCH TAHT MOMMY WONT NOTICE THIS BURIED WITHIN

TIME TO SUPPORT KURIBOS OFFERING FOR THE BLOOD GODS

VOTE: DUNNSTRAL

camn and Kats are also voting Dunn so it's four

[kuribo]

But as scum, why would he bother, when the whole point of the crumb is that he should not know what the town is called, and he does? Him doing that as scum would practically require cognitive dissonance.

He was selling the idea that scum didn't know this knowledge, and everyone else was either lapping it up or too disconnected from the game to do anything about it. If he's scum he's trying to make himself look like town, that's a motivation

How bout you put your vote where your mouth is and we see who gets roped first


Then after I string you, I'm coming for your buddies

THIS DUNNSTRAL WAGON RESISTANCE IS UNREAL

^^^

I don't fund Dunnstral scummy at all, but maybe the scum is bus'ing. They know things I don't.

So three of your strongest town reads (me, mollie, camn) are on this guy's wagon. How does that indicate a strong scum bus?

[kuribo]

So three of your strongest town reads (me, mollie, camn) are on this guy's wagon. How does that indicate a strong scum bus?

I'm actually arguing that he's town and it's not a bus.

Wagon resistance would mean 2 people out of the whole playerlist not voting Dunn. I don't think the "Dunn is hard to lynch" = scum

Especially not on Day 1, it may mean that scum doesn't want to compromise themselves voting for a townie on Day 1... and start the game with scumcred.

But this is circular logic, one could just as easily say that maybe he's a strong scum PR and they don't want to lose him day 1 just because some loud players are tunneled on him.

[kuribo]

But Feysal's point about Dunn antagonizing me is completely wrong. Dunn hasn't confronted me head on, instead he's thrown half hearted shade at meand backed off. He's also stated that he doesn't think I'm Town and won't be voting me


Now how the FUCK is that "antagonizing me to generate content" as Fey put it? Where I see it, Dunn tried to throw shade, got caught, and realized he'd but off more than he could chew so he clammed the fuck up.

[kuribo]

The one thing in his posts I remember making me suspicious is why did he react to Kuribo talking about him? Scum do te

And not only this but why the fuck did STAEG feel the need to discredit my push on Dunn? He of all people should know by now not to stand between me and my prey.


That reminds me, you're on my shitlist Staeg, you know damn well how to spell my fucking name.

[kuribo]

maybe he's a strong scum PR and they don't want to lose him day 1

Nah... they'd bus a Double-Kill Godfather Flaming Pumpkin on Day 1 if they thought there was towncred in it.

Would they? We both know that some players, yourself included, are extremely averse to bussing. Not only that, but you think LLD is scum, right? LLD is probably the only player on this site besides Fate who can give me a run for my money with the number of partners we've bussed over the years. You don't think she'd bus Dunn and watch me drive Dunn into the ground? I'm not saying LLD is scum, but I'm saying you aren't even considering the idea she'd bus Dunn?

[kuribo]

DGB, if you honestly and truly think LLD is scum you have to at least consider the fact that she'd never hesitate to bus.

[kuribo]

cupcake has posted more times in this D1 than he normally posts across entire games when he's town - i know that's probably in part because he's excited about it being a fate game with this player list but meh. i guess how much he's appealing to certain players doesn't sit well with me either. honestly don't remember the last time he put this much effort into a game he was town

WE WERE A SPAM POSTER ONCE UPON A TIME
PLAYER QUALITY DROPPED TOO HARD OVER THE YEARS
THREAD AVOIDANCE FROM STUPIDITY BECAME ONLY WAY TO PLAY

SPEAKING OF FATE GAMES
SEE FIRST FATE GAME WHERE WE WERE STOMPING
SCUM THREW EVERY POWER AND KILL AT US N1

links or it didnt happen

Just remind Kats of that time I self-Doctored to win and he'll stop bringing up the past

[kuribo]

Kuribo's recent push on Dunn feels entirely ill-founded and I don't particularly like you either, Muffins

[kuribo]

For the record, Staeg is #2 on my most wanted list, I'd happily drive that shit into the dirt too

[kuribo]

Vote Count:

"A king must live a grander life than any other’s, and stoke his people’s feelings of admiration! He who is worthy of all heroes’ envy, and he who leads their way, is king! Therefore, the king is not alone. For his will equals that of all his followers together!" -Rider

-Leo, 9th House

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (1) Dunnstral
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (1) Nachomamma8
Kokichi Oma- Gemini: To Listen (1) Staeg
MariaR- Aquarius: To Liberate (0)
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (0)
DrippingGoofBall- Libra: To Balance (0)
Espeonage-Gemini: To Listen (1) Feysal
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (0)
Feysal- Virgo: To Serve (0)
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (3) Espeonage, MariaR, zMuffinMan
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (1) DGB
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (4) thepixiecollective, Kuribo, Lady Lambdadelta, camntsuki

Not Voting: Kokichi Oma

With 13 alive it takes 7 to obliterate someone.

Deadline: July 15th

Dunnstral apparently exists in a state of duality, both voting camnsuki and not voting at all

:spooky:

[kuribo]

Vote Count:

"A king must live a grander life than any other’s, and stoke his people’s feelings of admiration! He who is worthy of all heroes’ envy, and he who leads their way, is king! Therefore, the king is not alone. For his will equals that of all his followers together!" -Rider

-Leo, 9th House

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (1) Dunnstral
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (1) Nachomamma8
Kokichi Oma- Gemini: To Listen (1) Staeg
MariaR- Aquarius: To Liberate (0)
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (0)
DrippingGoofBall- Libra: To Balance (0)
Espeonage-Gemini: To Listen (1) Feysal
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (0)
Feysal- Virgo: To Serve (0)
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (3) Espeonage, MariaR, zMuffinMan
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (1) DGB
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (4) thepixiecollective, Kuribo, Lady Lambdadelta, camntsuki

Not Voting: Kokichi Oma

With 13 alive it takes 7 to obliterate someone.

Deadline: July 15th

Dunnstral apparently exists in a state of duality, both voting camnsuki and not voting at all

:spooky:

AAAAAAA FATE IS TOO QUICK FOR MY MORTAL TYPING SKILLS

[kuribo]

@Mod - Apparently, I don't exist at all. :[

I mean you're an anonymous ghost

[kuribo]

How do you think I feel? This is my first Town game in two years.

[kuribo]

go find my zen.

I'm going to the beach tomorrow you can come with if you want

[kuribo]

I am not scum.

Why did you say "I'm not scum" instead of "I'm town?"

Little early for third party hunting, isn't it?

[kuribo]

And I'd argue AGAIN


IF YOUD FUCKING READ


THAT his intention wasn't to piss me off and that he backed down like a scared child when I came out guns blazing

[kuribo]

Fate confirmed later that the name of the town was known to the scum,

Never Fucking mind that if I had known that scum already knew, I wouldn't have fucking bothered crumbing it or mentioning it in the first damn place

[kuribo]

I am not scum.

Why did you say "I'm not scum" instead of "I'm town?"

Little early for third party hunting, isn't it?

Is iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiT ????

If you're Town, it is

[kuribo]

It's not self meta it's common fucking sense

[kuribo]

Whatever, nothing useful is going to come from talking to you. This games going all the way to deadline, I'll wait to see where you and the rest of your squad move their votes

Maybe if I smash my Fucking head in with a brick I'd be able to converse on your level

[kuribo]

I'll 1v1 you right fucking now piggy


Hell I'll fucking claim right now day 1


You're fucking with the wrong bull

[kuribo]

When I look for bus'ing on day 1, I'm only for early adopters. Especially if the players shows signs of weakness. Objectively, the person I would consider the most likely bus on the wagon is you.

YOU REALLY THINK THE KURIBO/DUNNSTRAL DANCE WAS SCUM THEATER?

DO YOU KNOW WHATS WEIRD

PPLE SEEM TO BE PUSHING THE IDEA OF SCUM THEATRE WITHOUT EVER PUSHING THE PPLE THEY THINK ARE DOING IT

Not unlike Dunn saying he doesn't think I'm Town but he's not willing to vote me

[kuribo]

I've already explained several times why you're scum, you disingenuous fuck

Pretending like I haven't isn't fucking helping

[kuribo]

Isn't helping what?

God damn I can't tell if you're playing dumb or if you're not playing

[kuribo]

"shading people" is part of the game

So is voting your scum reads but you already said you're not willing to do that

[kuribo]

The only thing these players are experienced in is getting banned, and it shows.

Ohhhhh


I see where I went wrong


Here I thought you were playing mafia


Turns out you're just an asshole




From the bottom of my heart, fuck you.

[kuribo]

Can you explain to me how, if I'm scum, me allegedly not trying to lynch you is scummy? Especially with this wagon on me. Simplify it for me, please.

you are being pushed for your lack of scumhunting.

Well, I don't think that's fair

I think it is

dissuade me

There are a good amount of players with less scumhunting than I.

Espeonage, Kokichi, Camntsuki, arguably Nacho, arguably Kuribo

That's not to say they're scummy for it - just seems weird that I'm the one being pushed for it with everything else going on

Besides, I've done my fair share of scumhunting. You think just because my read on someone is null, that I haven't been doing any sorting? Null is where they belong, I don't need a conclusion day 1. I've been progressing the game.

This is rich coming from a guy who refuses to vote me but still wants to paint me as scum


HOW THE FUCK AM I NOT SCUM HUNTING

I've fucking caught scum, and I'm fucking hunting him. And that's you, fucker. Unlike you apparently, I VOTE MY SCUM READS

[kuribo]

And that right there, ye fucking doubters is why this disingenuous fuck is scum

He's more interested in throwing shade and not backing it up than he is in finding scum, he won't put his vote where his mouth is, he's fucking terrified he's getting smoked by players who are fucking better than him, he backs down like a little punk every time he's called out, then he comes back to snipe from the sidelines

And Maria I don't give a fuck how many times you come to say ohhhh he's town, no he fucking isn't and if you get in my way, imma rope you next to him after he flips scum

[kuribo]

But mafia isn't a one on one kind of game,

That's where you're wrong, because you and me are absolutely in a one on one game right now whether you wanna be or not



Also this might be just the "

experience

" talking, but would you BELIEVE you can only lynch one scum at a time?!


Shocking, I know.


I never fucking SAID I ONLY HAD ONE SCUMREAD


Either you're illiterate or you're misrepresenting what I'm saying and I'm pretty damn sure it's the latter

I said I'm VOTING MY STRONGEST scumread


So take your shitty little shit elsewhere

[kuribo]

What is your other scumread?

You're kidding right


When I said several times that Staeg is second behind you

And that you two are my Most Wanted


Did you somehow not Fucking interpret that to mean I think he's scum?


I'm going to the beach for the day, Fuck this game and fuck you

[kuribo]

BTW that Staeg vote on Dunns looks laughable as hell, he's been soft defending Dunn and now needs to set up that distance for when one of them flips


I thought you were better than that Staeg

[kuribo]

Pixie ik you've had a back and forth with Dunn the past few pages and the same with kui
can you both even though ik you most likely did somewhere give me a case or sum up why you scumread Dunn it's hard for me to jump in and put my 2 cents so I feel it's better if I just start my own convo with you. I'm also on the side that Ghost is very own town if you need help there I can do that too

Kiss my ass.


It's literally in the previous TWO FUCKING PAGES

you ain't taking control of shit, try again

[kuribo]

"Stay away from Dunn but let's lynch a lurker"


Fuck I didn't know it was 2007 again already

[kuribo]

Mollie will you talk to these derps


I am sick and Fucking tired of repeating myself for dumbfucks who won't even read things I've posted and then ask me questions REITERATING THINGS I ALREADY FUCKING SAID

[kuribo]

Kuribo using the "I don't want to repeat myself" factor to try to dodge what others are attempting to address with him

Pixie, I'll get you your reads

FUCK YOU


FUCK YOUR SHADE


YOU SCUM FUCK


COME AT ME


ONE ON ONE


YOU MEALY MOUTHED SHIT TALKING PUNK MOTHERFUCKER

[kuribo]

And that right there, ye fucking doubters is why this disingenuous fuck is scum

He's more interested in throwing shade and not backing it up than he is in finding scum, he won't put his vote where his mouth is, he's fucking terrified he's getting smoked by players who are fucking better than him, he backs down like a little punk every time he's called out, then he comes back to snipe from the sidelines

And Maria I don't give a fuck how many times you come to say ohhhh he's town, no he fucking isn't and if you get in my way, imma rope you next to him after he flips scum

And that right there, ye fucking doubters is why this disingenuous fuck is scum

He's more interested in throwing shade and not backing it up than he is in finding scum, he won't put his vote where his mouth is, he's fucking terrified he's getting smoked by players who are fucking better than him, he backs down like a little punk every time he's called out, then he comes back to snipe from the sidelines

And Maria I don't give a fuck how many times you come to say ohhhh he's town, no he fucking isn't and if you get in my way, imma rope you next to him after he flips scum

And that right there, ye fucking doubters is why this disingenuous fuck is scum

He's more interested in throwing shade and not backing it up than he is in finding scum, he won't put his vote where his mouth is, he's fucking terrified he's getting smoked by players who are fucking better than him, he backs down like a little punk every time he's called out, then he comes back to snipe from the sidelines

And Maria I don't give a fuck how many times you come to say ohhhh he's town, no he fucking isn't and if you get in my way, imma rope you next to him after he flips scum

And that right there, ye fucking doubters is why this disingenuous fuck is scum

He's more interested in throwing shade and not backing it up than he is in finding scum, he won't put his vote where his mouth is, he's fucking terrified he's getting smoked by players who are fucking better than him, he backs down like a little punk every time he's called out, then he comes back to snipe from the sidelines

And Maria I don't give a fuck how many times you come to say ohhhh he's town, no he fucking isn't and if you get in my way, imma rope you next to him after he flips scum

And that right there, ye fucking doubters is why this disingenuous fuck is scum

He's more interested in throwing shade and not backing it up than he is in finding scum, he won't put his vote where his mouth is, he's fucking terrified he's getting smoked by players who are fucking better than him, he backs down like a little punk every time he's called out, then he comes back to snipe from the sidelines

And Maria I don't give a fuck how many times you come to say ohhhh he's town, no he fucking isn't and if you get in my way, imma rope you next to him after he flips scum

ASK ME AGAIN BITCH


ASK ME ONE MORE FUCKING TIME


YOU MISREPRESENTING PIECE OF SHIT

[kuribo]

I spend all day at the fucking beach, have a nice chill day, I come back and your dumbfuck friend is asking me to LITERALLY REITERATE THINGS IVE SAID IN THR LAST SEVERAL FUXKING HOURS


AND YOURE STILL MISREPRESENTING EVERYTHING I SAID


IMMA DANCE ON YOUR FUCKING GRAVE YOU SCUM BITCH

[kuribo]

go to your happy place, kuribo

FUCK


THAT


I AM SICK


AND FUCKING TIRED


OF THIS GODLESS WHORE


BLATANTLY TWISTING EVERY FUCKING WORD I SAY

[kuribo]

You try and be fucking civil


You try and be a decent person


And some waste of his daddy's cum just will NOT STOP SNIPING with bullshit misrepresentation


And I'm supposed to turn the other fucking cheek


While his idiot friend asks me OVER AND FUCKING OVER WHY HES SCUM


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

[kuribo]

If your own words can be u sed against you, your argument wasn't good to begin with. It doesn't matter if it's scum or town doing it - if they catch you out then you need to rethink

he didn't "catch" me out

stop applying these words that you are inserting cos you think it makes you look good and address I am saying cos so far you are not

all you are doing is deflecting and I am hoping that pple are not so headblind that they will not see it.

Not gonna repeat myself, it gets old.

look. you have already pissed kuribo off to the point of no return how about you not piss me off as well? cos this was a dick comment which does/solves/resolves nothing to further a town win con.

like srsly nothing. so stop it.

if you are town it wld be really cool if you worked with me instead of against me. I am seeing a spark of the same stubbornness that I saw in the very last game we played together. I took a year off of ms and played on other sites and mellowed cos I was playing games that were *gasp* fun.

if you are town then help me out. stop being so antagonistic and work with me here.

can you give me a readslist of all the players in the game? lets start there.

this is a reach out. if you are town plz for the love of god take it, there is way too much potential for game throwing here and it wld be lovely for town to win a fate game cos you know what? town never have. I knew this when signing up and I was really hoping for a scum role pm but we didn't get 1 and now I am stuck with a cple of players I am beginning to not like and who are probably town.

I wld like to have 1 small kernal of hope that we actually have a chance to win here. so plz. accept it.

Town never wins a fate game because it always attracts the old,

experienced

crowd. There, I said it.

If you want to work with me, the first step is to stop blaming me for what other people are doing in the game. Look, Kuribo is a jerk to everybody. Blaming me for other players poor form and performance doesn't make me want to work with others.

I'm going to give you all of my reads and I want you to ask questions about the ones you are interested in, they're roughly in order top to bottom as well

AnonymousGhost: Town
MariaR: Lean Town
Pixie: Lean Town
DGB: Lean Town
Nacho: Lean Town
Feysal: Lean Town
zMuffinMan: Lean Town
Staeg: Null
Kuribo: Null
LadyLambdadelta: Null
Kokichi: Lean Scum
Espeonage: Lean Scum
xCamntsuki: Scum

ARENT YOU VOTING STAEG


WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU VOTING A NULL READ


THAT READS LIST IS BULLSHIT

[kuribo]

I spend all day at the fucking beach, have a nice chill day, I come back and your dumbfuck friend is asking me to LITERALLY REITERATE THINGS IVE SAID IN THR LAST SEVERAL FUXKING HOURS


AND YOURE STILL MISREPRESENTING EVERYTHING I SAID


IMMA DANCE ON YOUR FUCKING GRAVE YOU SCUM BITCH

Kuribo, stop harassing me and my friend.

Your friend addressed me, you disingenuous fuck


If she don't want me talking to her in a Mafia game maybe she shouldn't ask me stupid fucking questions

[kuribo]

Thanks for the shade it was pretty hot at work today. Why don't you explain why you found my post scummy?

How is that shade when I'm literally calling you out directly? Because it looks posturing or fake

I've made it known that I think scum are in the lurkers because I tr the people posting a lot...so how is that being fake? If you think I'm incorrect show me instead of using bland statements.

Pixie ik you've had a back and forth with Dunn the past few pages and the same with kui
can you both even though ik you most likely did somewhere give me a case or sum up why you scumread Dunn it's hard for me to jump in and put my 2 cents so I feel it's better if I just start my own convo with you. I'm also on the side that Ghost is very own town if you need help there I can do that too

Kiss my ass.


It's literally in the previous TWO FUCKING PAGES

you ain't taking control of shit, try again

I just want 1 post from you about a summary on why Dunn is scum instead of it over the blast of 2 pages. Or for you to go cool down because I don't want you getting this upset over a mafia game

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


I JUST FUCKING POSTED IT


AGAIN



LITERALLY MY ENTITE TIRADE HAS BEEN ABOUT WHY I THINK HES SCUM


HES LITERALLY DOING THE SCUMMY BEHAVIOR


ON


THIS

FUCKING


PAGE

[kuribo]

Don't bother

[kuribo]

Oh dunn is being lynched that's why he was so hostile. Hahaha

I'm "hostile" because Kuribo has been antagonizing me all game

Antagonizing? I'm responding to your weak little snippy attacks


I'm done with you for today. You're dismissed. Best kill me tonight, my role only gets more powerful as the game goes on.

Vote: Staeg

[kuribo]

Fine Asshole


I offer you mercy and you keep fucking with me

Vote: Dunnstral

Get fucked

[kuribo]

pretty sure this is the current vc mollie

Dunnstral (4) - Kuribo, LLD, cupcamn, staeg
Staeg (4) - Espy, MariaR, God, Casper
God (1) - Nacho
Cupcamn (1) - Dunnstral
Espy (1) - DGB
Casper (1) - mollie
MariaR (1) - kokichi

ty!

so dunns is the hell wagon and staeg is the heaven. who on the staeg's wagon wld you be looking at for scum based on play plus vote placement?

questions like this don't seem like you're trying to work with me

How do you feel about camntsuki? and staeg wagon right now, and kuribo's vote there before being called out

you didn't call me out for shit, I offered you a hand of truce you spit on it

[kuribo]

Having trouble believing that Kuribo can honestly believe that both me and staeg are scum together right now

lol again with the misrepresentation and deflection


I already explained at length why I believe Staeg tried to hard defend you and then backed off by calling you scum to distance


try again

[kuribo]

Let's make one thing clear - camntsuki, lld, kuribo and the like. They're not experienced players, they're

old

players. I'd like to hear a reason as to why they're more likely to call Kuribo out than someone else - especially since they didn't actually call Kuribo out, but I did.

The only thing these players are experienced in is getting banned, and it shows.

And you can call me harassing or mean or what the fuck ever



but you started it with this comment, you piece of shit\

you made it personal, and I'mma see your dumb ass lynched for it

[kuribo]

His posts are designed to bait you into an argument.

don't think this is true (except insofar as people regularly incite arguments in a mafia game). i'm aware he's made posts like 766, but posts like that aren't a general trend like you're suggesting they are

You're also forgetting he called me intentionally ignorant


Like for real Fuck that noise

[kuribo]

I am so confused with these last 2 posts

I softed the name of the town faction before Fate posted the sample PM.


I've also softed my role. Daddy eats first.

Are you saying mafia don't have fake claims, or are you being intentionally obtuse

Intentionally obtuse


My bad


Calling someone stupid isn't exactly behavior that's expected to be met with kindness

[kuribo]

I am so confused with these last 2 posts

I softed the name of the town faction before Fate posted the sample PM.


I've also softed my role. Daddy eats first.

Are you saying mafia don't have fake claims, or are you being intentionally obtuse

I do still believe Dunn is scum, and I do still believe Staeg to be his partner for the reason I laid out- Staeg's defense of Dunn, followed by his blatant distancing



I also don't give a fuck anymore if Dunn is scum or not, I want him lynched out of this game, and his alignment is only secondary to that


I wasn't kidding when I said he made it personal

[kuribo]

i mean, sure, i don't think it's helpful or good for the game in any way. but it's far from the worst thing i've seen in a mafia game and it's not at the "how could that possibly be town?" level like cupcake is saying it is

Because I am sick and fucking tired of him taking potshots at me while sitting on the sidelines. It's bullshit and you know it.


This sumbitch has misrepresented every fucking post I've made in this game and I'm tired of him throwing on shade that he won't back up with a vote. You know who does that? Fucking scum who wanna keep their options open.


And then to sit there and call us bad players?! Like fuck him.

[kuribo]

And the horse he rode in ontoo

[kuribo]

I've even tried, I tried to back off from Dunns for the sake of cooler heads prevaili g and vote my other strongest scum read and he just can't fucking help being a dick, so he claims I got "called out"

Called out for WHAT? For voting my scumread? What the fuck is that even?

I offered him a truce and he spit in my face so obviously he's not interested in peace

One of us needs to be lynched today because this shit will continue tomorrow and the next day and the next day

[kuribo]

kuribo (he still seems a bit off but OK)

I like to think it's my irritation at this game clouding my judgement but it's really worrying me how far apart we are on reads


Don't worry, we'll have all night to discuss it after I neighborize you.

[kuribo]

I offered him a truce and he spit in my face so obviously he's not interested in peace

Not remotely true

I'd like you to stop attacking me, I was looking at your post from a game standpoint and your hop onto staeg did look suspect at the time, I talked about how Camntsuki was gaining traction and you joined the higher wagon you barely talked about

I'll go over their ISO again with "Casper" just in case.

Tried that too, they never called you that

Except as I pointed out several times, I'm also scum reading Staeg, and it's disingenuous to act as if that's not the case.

It's also notable that you're now defending Staeg, despite your earlier assertion that I've never explained why I believe you to be buddies. (Also false)

[kuribo]

So obviously I was wrong about Staeg being Dunn's buddy. That in mind, will those of you who said you didn't see the connection now admit that Dunn is scum?

He's misrepresented every case put against him, he's appealed to emotion, he's attacked other players while asking for civility, he's not Town and he's got to get stepping.

[kuribo]

AT THIS POINT I DONT RLY CARE ABOUT THIS GAME ANYMORE IM ALMOST TEMPTED TO JUST ABUSE A TRUST TELL OF MINE JUST TO GET PPL LIKE DUNNS TO STFU

Lmao same

[kuribo]

actually hol' up


with two claimed masons presumably in line now to get NK'd before me, I feel safe claiming. I am Gemini/Capricorn, the Politician. Each day I choose one player (I have already selected DGB and submitted my selection) and at night I get a private topic with them. (DGB hates neighbors, and I vowed to turn her into something she hates) At the end of the night, she gets to decide if she wants to elect me. If at any point, the living majority of players have voted me President, I gain powerful influence over the day's lynch. This role would be OP as fuck for scum obviously because it only gets stronger as the game goes on. I legit thought this was a kingmaker setup at first based on my role.

VOTE: Kuribo

lol fuck y'all, I'm headed to work now, deuces

When I am king you will be first against the wall

If you know anything about me you know i don't make idle threats

Here I am waving my political power around like a huge hard cock.

What's this?! BREADCRUMBS?!

And that's how daddy sets the table.

This was a reference to Cody Rhodes who, not coincidentally, has flirted with the idea of getting into politics.

[kuribo]

lol fuck y'all, I'm headed to work now, deuces

i dont know how that ended up in the quote tag for that other post


but fuck yall im headed to work now, deuces

[kuribo]

Don't you derail the wagon I built with my own hands onto one of my townreads



Do you really feel like dealing with my reaction to THAT tomorrow?

[kuribo]

Using threats with emotional manipulation is really low and you should feel bad

Well I don't and I never will


Every game I'm in should be treated as a hostage situation with me being the gun-wielding maniac

[kuribo]

Oh I forgot Maria is fine with emotional manipulation when it's Dunn accusing me of "harassment" for being pissed after he's lied, twisted, and insulted me and MY friends

[kuribo]

If I don't get Dunn roped now, I damn sure will once I'm president


And you're gonna have to sit there and watch your scummy friend die

[kuribo]

guess you're just not a good person than.
Pedit: Lying isn't manipulation isn't stating a fact. You going "I'm gonna whine and yell at you all if you don't give me what I want is trying to use emotional manipulation. Or acting like a child take your pick
Pedit2: I'm not guilting anyone into doing stuff I'm just saying Kuro is trying to make a game unfun to get his way are you gonna tell me I'm wrong?

I'm not a good person?

Because I choose to play mafia differently than you do?


I'll tell you the same thing I told the last forum user that said I wasn't a good person:


Fuck you, you inbred pig-Fucking piece of shit.

[kuribo]

"You're not a good person"

Also

"You're acting pissy over a game."


Fuck You Maria


You and Dunn wanna throw out loaded fighting words and then bitch and cry harassment when people call you on it or respond on kind


You're both pretty Fucking horrible people, at least I k ow what the fuck I am, you fuckstick

[kuribo]

You're not a good person to me because of your actions this game I never said anything in dunn's defense or your own I think you're both acting childish. I'm obv bias with dunn because I know him better than you but if you think trying to hold the game hostage by yelling if you don't get your way is fun that's a yikes. The game is meant to be fun for all players involved I don't think anyone has fun with the actions being done here. If you can drop insults I would have no problem with you. I've tried to ask you kindly but you just don't listen.
Pedit: Who would you lynch today LLD

Jesus you Fucking numpty, it was a figure of speech to express my disappointment that my scumread wagon is evaporating onto a townread


Don't ever in your fucking life assume to know what kind of person I am though

[kuribo]

I believe the mason claim because there is literally exactly one person dumb enough to confirm their scum partner as their "mason" buddy, and that's unfortunately me.


If they're not masons, Nacho had no reason to confirm, least of all on day 1 when they'd need a lot of help to win as scum. Don't you understand? If either flips scum, the other is outted. Who the hell would do that day 1?

My scum partner claims mason on day 1, I leave them to twist in the wind. Or any day for that matter. Lessons learned on that one.

[kuribo]

kuribo and dgb did it once but I think it is rare especially on d1.

Gay Mafia 1, DGB and I counterclaimed the masons in what we thought was MYLO. Turned out they were vengeful lover masons, they shot DGB, leaving me and Katsuki a whole night phase to reflect on how I was outted scum.

[kuribo]

It was MYLO and the stupid part wasn't that we claimed mason, we had actually spent the whole game preparing to claim mason


The stupid part was that together we decided to COUNTERCLAIM THE ACTUAL MASONS

the other two had claimed first and we were like NOPE WE ARE THE MASONS

and then town LYNCHED THEM which triggered their vengeful (which they didn't claim) and they used it to shoot DGB

[kuribo]

not going to argue this point, but @anyone saying they wouldn't claim masons as scum,

staeg was getting lynched if not for that claim and nacho was following right after him (i don't care that people had a murder boner for dunnstral-staeg, nacho was pretty clearly tied to staeg, so even if somehow nacho lived past D2, he wasn't making it past D3). that claim just bought them time to get mislynches (possibly a few because people still might not lynch them when they're both magically alive D3). it's not bad play or 'suboptimal' to throw a hail mary when you're probably fucked anyway

don't blindly write them off as town for that claim

What I said was that claiming mason as scum day 1 = e

Someone else confirming themselves as their mason day one = probably masons

Obviously reevaluate if everyone's still alive in a few days, but we're not lynching claimed masons day 1

[kuribo]

...


Ok you're out of my town pile now

[kuribo]

SOMEHOW US AS SCUM

Hey I'm just trying to help you not draw the nightkill but I guess with masons out it's not necessary anymore.

You have no idea how much I wish we were Serening right now


When I actually can take two seconds to independently think about the game state, two nagging, terrifying questions keep popping into my head and I want nothing more than to shout them to you. But spite, as you know, is often the core of my gameplay and pride doubly so. As it is, there is no point in vocalizing either question because it will absolutely drag out into another huge, thread-shitting fight, and I don't have the energy for that. But further, I need not elaborate because I know already what you will propose is the answer to both questions. While I assure you both questions are in good faith, and increasingly nagging concerns, they would absolutely not be taken as such by people outside-looking-in. Do you follow? If not, I suppose I'll just have to elaborate when we get a PT tonight.

[kuribo]

@Dunn and @Maria

You know what, we've all gotten off on the wrong foot in this game, tempers have flared, and I've reverted back to old habits I've tried so god damn hard to break. I've spoken to both of you in ways I shouldn't, I've taken things more personally than I probably should have at times (as is my nature: ask mollie about the first game I played with Majiffy, who's now a friend of mine) I've probably done harm to the gamestate and made it rather undun for many people involved. For that, I do apologize, both to you two primarily, and to the other players at large. Yes, Dunn, I do still believe you to be scum, for the reasons I've laid out, and I'm sorry but that's just Mafia. The other stuff, the personal stuff, that was wildly uncalled for, and for my part in it, I am honestly regretful.

[kuribo]

@LLD I've tried for YEARS to convince DGB that real-life AtE isn't a scumtell. My problem is that we both know I was full of shit early game when I claimed I could read you well. We both know I can't. We both know that my playstyle is based on judging emotions, and while I'm damn good at that, you're equally damn good at... not faking your emotions, but directing them. I always say I never fake rage, but that I can work myself into a self righteous lather even as scum. I do believe we both know that to be the case with you as well. Frankly, if somehow we're both still alive in a few days, then I'll figure it out. For now I'm content to just let both of us fight our own little personal wars with other people, because I know good and well as much as you do how exhausting it is when we butt heads.

[kuribo]

@mollie

I know you love your townblocs. You're in a groove this game, I sense it. I like what I'm seeing with you, this is the good shit, this is a mollie game. And for the life of me I'm having such a hard time getting engaged beyond the pissing and shouting. Why? We both know why. I haven't been Town in over two years, and most of the time it was as part of a hydra. I'm rusty, sure, but the other thing is, believe it or not, I'm genuinely happy in my life. You know how hard it is for me to play mafia when I'm not suicidal and hate-filled? Even the spats with Dunn took so much out of me emotionally that I dreaded even clicking the thread, and that shit was mild compared to the wars of old. Listen, I'm townreading you. I have my townbloc of my own, and it includes you and DGB. I'm counting on the two of you to help me figure this shit out. Dunn may have actually been onto something, albeit in kind of an annoying way: I'm experienced, but it's just another way of saying I've been here too long. But more than that I'm rusty. I need my town reads to help me on this one. I trust you, mollie, at least for the moment and the foreseeable future. That's honestly about as good as one can really expect to hear in a game of mafia.

[kuribo]

@Nacho

Wanna hear something weird? You and I have played several games together. Probably many, actually. I genuinely like you as a poster, and I've heard enough about your play to know that you're a good, solid, strong player. But I don't have any clear memories of playing with you. If that makes sense. No single game or moment ever stands out in my mind as "oh that time me and Nacho were in a game together." You've always just been kind of... there. And that sucks, because I wanna see that tour de force Nacho that everyone talks about, I wanna see you decimate your foes, I wanna have that Nacho moment. Because I've never had that experience with you in a game. And now you're a day 1 outted mason, and that fucking sucks. Because between that and everything else this game, it looks like I'm gonna miss out again on a Nacho moment.

[kuribo]

@TDK

Listen, I feel you. I feel you on the emotional overload in this game, all of it. Of all people, I know how it gets when you lose your murder boner because you just can't stop pissing on everything. And while I'd say there are others on this site I'm closer to on a personal level (DGB and mollie for example) you remain the one I've known the longest. Twelve years, longer than either of us have ever even heard of MafiaScum. Long before the lynchings, and the fake claims, and the scumbuddies, there was Second Wave, the Happy FYAD Empire, kuribo's March, and Re: your imminent destruction posts. We've fought side by side beyond galaxies, on town wagons, in scumteams, and when the time was necessary, we've mercilessly destroyed one another. Because that's always been us, right? Brothers united in fury to push victory by any means necessary. I do believe you're Town this game. It's that gut feeling, and no, I won't tell you specifics, and you know why I won't. But I do believe it. HOWEVER, and this, Kats, is the important part. I was gonna wait to discuss this with DGB, but it might not matter by tonight, so I'm gonna ask you directly instead. One- since when do you buddy me day one? And more importantly, two- since when do you not call someone out---especially me--- for role PM shenanigans? Not once did you even call me cheeky and I found that SO weird.

[kuribo]

@Fate

Man, I'm gonna owe you about a dozen apologies by the time this shits over. Aside from the one I already gave you. I've tried to be the enlightened one, the Tranquilo Serene, the Zen Kuribo that I've spent over eighteen months now cultivating in my real life outside of the forum. Do you remember the scum QT for Catch-22? Or as I've come to call it, "Thr scumQT of misery and self loathing?" Do you remember how I was, six years ago (god so long), in that QT, lamenting my failing marriage in real time, logging into the game suicidally wishing for death? I was the last one standing on that scumteam, and I had no one in my life to talk to about my problems, and so I dumped them into that QT. What you don't know, what no one knows, is that sometimes I go back to that ScumQT. It's still there. Every post, every miserable description of what my life was at the time. I like to revisit it, and do you know why? Because when I remind myself of the lowest time in my life, I realize how fucking amazing my life is now. Seriously, my life is awesome. I went to Wrestlemania and met Stone Cold Steve Austin a couple months ago for God's sake. And lord help me, I've tried with this game. I've tried to reflect that I'm in a better place in life, and dare I say a better person than I used to be. But old habits, Fate, they die hard. But I'm trying. I'm trying to be the man I know I am. I do owe you an apology as well, for my behavior toward certain players. There is a reason, I suppose, that we forsake the old ways. Most importantly, though, is that I just don't want to be that toxic forum presence. And I don't want to alienate friends, or strangers who could become friends. Life's too short for all that, and we never know what Fate has in store.

[kuribo]

sorry to interrupt your moment, kuribo, but who do you think is scum apart from dunnstral? (feel free to answer that after youre done, i dont mind)

Wanna hear something sad?


I've been so busy arguing with Dunn's and Maria that I've barely read a single word the rest of you have posted. Sorry. I was gonna conclude with an @everyone else to reveal that statement, but this is as good a time as any.

[kuribo]

I will, presumably, find time sooner or later the next day or two to review the parts of the thread that aren't about me. Anyone who knows my history knows that I work double shifts a lot of weekends, and this weekend is no exception. The main difference is we have a zero tolerance / immediate termination cell phone policy at the facility now, thanks to a teenage employer violating HIPAA last year. So, gone are the days of me shouting in triumph over a scum lynch from inside a linen closet at work.

I'm happy with where my vote is, and with any luck I'll get NK'd (although that's extraordinarily less likely now because of the masons) and not have to read anything else anyway.

[kuribo]

I do have questions about Kats that have given me pause, as I said above. I also haven't felt the need to vocalize them until now because it's easier than arguing to call him a town read and not drag through all that.

The reasons I read him as Town are my own, and if I reveal those, then he's a self aware enough player to use it against me in the future. Assuming I ever actually play again. He has dropped at least one fairly hard town tell in my mind--- but I also am slightly concerned about the two questions I asked him. Keep in mind, I was perfectly fine to sit on them until I get my PT with DGB so I could approach her privately about it, but with Kats possibly getting lynched, I didn't see any more point in holding it back.

I'm obviously vehemently against lynching either mason. Claiming mason as scum on day 1 would be one thing, a desperation move. Confirming your own scum partner would be a whole other thing entirely. I do believe Nacho has it in him to be cheeky. I do not believe Nacho is stupid. Confirming your own scum buddy day one is the latter.

I keep getting the nagging feeling that some of the scum team are going to be the under the radar types. And why not, with big personalities tearing one another to pieces? Kochina seems like the obvious choice, but they've been VLA so that's not a tell, now is it? I don't like AnonGhost's shade on the mason claim, but is that scummy? Or just bad town play. Both. But does it come from scum? I'm not too sure, it's easiest for scum to just sit back and "mmmhm yup masons, onto the next wagon" and collect claims.

Espe. I'd lynch Espe in a heartbeat. Sorry, but I would. Part of it was the reaction to my first post about partying with me. You wanted in on that, didn't you Espe, or at least wanted to know why you weren't in. Oh, don't get me wrong, I haven't read much of anything from Espe--- similar to most of the players--- but that nagging feeling in my head says scum lies there. He's disengaged, he's made excuses for why he isn't scumhunting, and he's tried a couple of times to buddy up to people, myself included. I'd rope Espe right now.

Feysal, id rather wait till the end of Friday since they had asked for VLA till Thursday. I wouldn't mourn a death in that slot though. If anything I'd say I'm almost 100% sure there's scum between he and Espe, with a non-zero chance they're buddies.

Muffin, I wouldn't lynch you today, but I don't have you as a heavy town read either. I could see you being the workhorse of a scum team. I'm not out for your blood yet, though, so if you're scum you've got plenty of time to NK me.

I don't know Maria well enough to trust my read on her, and I'll defer myself on that for the time being. She could flip town, scum, or anything in between and I wouldn't be surprised. Not because of her posts, just because I have no point of reference.

I also believe there is a possibility of scum among my Fateful Four (DGB, mollie, Kats, LLD) because of the sheer numbers (mathematically, there's a 33% chance at least one of them is scum) ratio and my own aversion to town blocs. I will not speculate at this time on this,
because nothing fruitful can come of it today.

[kuribo]

grrr...what was the first serene game that you guys played? I am having trouble finding it cos I don't remember the name of the game, I think this was back in 2014 or 2015

It's probably in the wiki page for Serene https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Serene

I keep that stuff relatively updated

[kuribo]

This isn't a misguided townie, it's a literal scum trying to cast aspersions on masons to free up the night kill to gun for power roles.

I know exactly where you are coming from but muffina is lying with what he said about nacho and I just had my world rocked

he is cheeky lying this shit is easily verifiable

want me to pull up some games? how many do you need? I have 3 easily off of the top of my head but I can go digging and I bet money that I can find more. he is not mistaken, he doesn't have a shitty memory he is

lying

.

What is there to gain for Muffin by lying about something so inconsequential? This isn't a claim, or a breaking strategy, it's a statement of opinion. What potential gain is there for Muffin to say he doesn't remember any specific Nacho play?

[kuribo]

This isn't a misguided townie, it's a literal scum trying to cast aspersions on masons to free up the night kill to gun for power roles.

But Muffin even said that he's done that more than Ghost has:

pretty sure i've been more vocal than casper on the masons potentially being scum (only difference being i acknowledge that it's not a great idea to lynch them D1)

What makes Ghost scum for this and not Muffin?

[kuribo]

If these Greek God claims are just another way to say your Moon sign, why not go with that if they're scum? I've said it before but I'm saying it again that the sample role PM provides the town flavor for a town player.

what the fuck

someone apparently doesnt know that the constellations were named after the greek gods? maybe?

but i'll be honest, I didn't read any of that shit

[kuribo]

Muffin's case for staeg-scum post-claim is light years better than AG's sunken ship that's somehow still burning (->muffin probably town), to the extent that I can't simulate the reasoning

It doesn't help that it's happening on the background of Muffin's more reasoned case

What if DGB is right about AG, and mollie is right about Muffin: what if they're both scum?

We have claimed masons in a game with a number of high-townreads, it's gotta be frustrating for scum to watch their mislynch options whittled down on day one. It could be scumplaining as opposed to keeping an open mind, if that makes sense.

No one with half a brain thinks masons are gonna get lynched day one, but I do see DGB's point of view: there's a certain subset of scum players who would keep masons alive a few days (especially with unknown factors like possible protective roles) and keep that shade in the forefront of towns minds. It's hard to scumhunt when you're doubting two confirmed townies, and doubly so if they stay alive.

[kuribo]

I said it was easiest, I didn't say there aren't people who wouldn't.

That's why I said a subset of players. There absolutely are players who will reject the path of least resistance. Hell, you know as well as I do that some of them are in this very game, and for that matter the moderator himself even falls into this category.

[kuribo]

Nacho/Ghost/MuffinZ for scum

i mean


again, Nacho is a claimed mason with Staeg

[kuribo]

nacho is tied to staeg. nacho and staeg wld have to br scum together :/

oh I can feel those bouts of gorging on paranoia flakes coming on

same

[kuribo]

You know I'm town so does it matter?

I mean, your case on AG and Muffins is that they're casting doubt on the mason claim while you're calling one of the masons scum.

[kuribo]

unvote

Vote: Kokichi

Your VLA is over and we want more than just sitting on the sidelines "gathering reads" or whatever.


You're either helping us find scum or you're an active burden. And if you're not posting your own thoughts, you're not helping us find scum.

[kuribo]

Desperate scum.

The flavor of their Moon signs doesn't match to the town sample role PM, Kuribo's claim, and my own role PM - all of which have the Sun and Moon Signs as Western Astrology, not Greek/Roman Gods. The fact that their claims involve Gods pings me as a fake claim.

I mean again


The constellations of astrology are literally named after Greek Gods

[kuribo]

Also, something completely different.

Kuribo

Since you're Gemini also, at any point when you got your role were you confused or no. Don't have to go into details, just a yes or no.

As I stated at the time of my claim, I legit thought we were in a Kingmaker setup, but that's the only confusion I initially felt.

[kuribo]

Kuribo can you answer my question btw.

God you're impatient

[kuribo]

I think you rely too heavily on meta and "I don't know thisnperson so null" is not an acceptable answer after thirty pages of content.

You may not have experience with, say DGB, but you just have no opinion on her activity?

[kuribo]

Scratch that


59 pages


Wow where the hell has time gone


So you have DGB null after 59 pages just because you've never played with her?

[kuribo]

The constellations of astrology are literally named after Greek Gods

Are they?

The older / traditional / Zodiac constellations, yes, they are based upon gods and other figures in Greek mythology. Much like how our modern weekday name's and month names still pay homage to the Romans that popularized the system, as well as their gods, the Greeks were big in astronomy and left their mark as well.

https://www.astronimate.com/article/con ... nings/amp/

Even Libra:

Literally, meaning “weighing scales,” Libra represents the scales of justice, held by Dike, the Greek goddess of justice.

[kuribo]

I just dont want a lol hammer when I'm actually trying to catch up and participate this game now that I have time

You should read DGB's sig, you been L-1 for some time and yet you seem to keep worrying about a lolhammer.

[kuribo]

What does the sig have to do with anything? Are you saying I should claim?

If you feel you're that worried about a hammer that you're fretting about being L-1.

[kuribo]

That's why it's called a flashwagon


At least you're participating now which means we have your attention

[kuribo]

You better do what she says man, she's crazy! I once seen her tear the arm off a guy and make him eat it! I mean who does that?!

I can't control her when she's like this! She's a maverick, she's one step shy of being off the force for good, but for now you might wanna help us out here!

[kuribo]

I'm back from my vacation, but I'm way behind on reading the game, and I don't think I can catch up before the day phase ends, at least not soon enough for it to matter.

Can someone summarize what is going on? It could help me make better use of my time.

We lynched you and we're waiting on your flip. Better hurry and post reads if you're Town just in case the mod comes and locks the thread.

[kuribo]

We lynched you and we're waiting on your flip. Better hurry and post reads if you're Town just in case the mod comes and locks the thread.

Thanks for the laugh, but I have now read the last couple pages and skimmed enough to know that did not happen.

Apparently there have been no less than four claims. Masons, Kuribo and now Kokichi. Anything else of importance I missed?

I learned how to tell the future.

Unvote

Vote: Feysal

[kuribo]

Super weak sauce reading the last few pages to make sure you weren't really lynched before discussing your alignment btw