weeeeeeeeeeeeIn post 253, LastManStanding wrote:Inferno390 is being replaced.
Toranaga, ManateeDude's replacement, hasn't picked up his Role PM. He has (expired on 2018-08-08 05:00:00) to confirm his Role PM, or else the slot will be replaced by someone else in his stead.
Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)
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you're the devilIn post 284, Wh4t wrote:
I'll move my vote to VOTE: Fromage but I'd happily move to Manatee once Toranaga confirms he's scum.In post 270, LastManStanding wrote:
in before you're the one who replaced into a mafia slot-
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I made no reads and called the setup incredibly townsided to the point of it being almost broken
you get 2 PRs and possible guilties on mafia. as long as you don't get possible false clears as actual clears you're fine. no open 9er should have 2 investigative town roles, that's silly.
and I know I lost one of those already as town but still-
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In post 144, Fromage wrote:I don't like how Burger put Inferno at L-1 and is fine with quicklynching him. Yes, inferno's behaviour has been consistent but I doubt this is a scum tell. In 58 Burger says he wants to hear more from poseidon and me before he puts inferno at L-1. Poseidon posts hardly anything 76 and I post very little. Then he just puts inferno at L-1. In 58 he said he feels uneasy quicklynching. But I don't recognize any uneasiness in 130 .
I also don't like 97. It contains a lot of speculation and focuses on one single interaction between manatee and inferno. Imho it's WIFOM. In addition to that I don't understand why he looks at manatee's meta but not at inferno's 98. Other people mentioned the possibility of inferno being lynchbait. Burger just excludes this possibility. 114 I cannot follow his thought process.
To conclude, I think Burger might be scum due to his inconsistent behaviour.
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no, I mean "you"In post 294, Wh4t wrote:
Don't you mean "we?"In post 290, Toranaga wrote:you get 2 PRs and possible guilties on mafia.
I believe you just scum slipped.
VOTE: Toranaga L-1.
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I didn't read anyone else's thoughts on that dudeIn post 298, Wh4t wrote:
A single post doesn't determine alignment. You'll notice he was pushed off his initial victim (Eragon) when his reasons were challenged, so sure he would try better with the next reasoning. A50 weakened my slot's position so the move onto me wasn't any less opportunistic than scumreading someone for fluff posting.In post 295, Toranaga wrote:in the context where you're actually inferno, that feels pretty bad
you have to realise that's town motivated posting, yes?
What do you think of poseidons thoughts about him?
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this feels like the sort of very easy read intoIn post 274, Wh4t wrote:In post 85, Fromage wrote:A lot of Eragon's posts contain only fluff. (35, 60, 62) I don't like it. VOTE: Eragon
FOS: Inferno. I don't like how much time he spends defending himself and how little scumhunting he does.
The backtracking here gives me scummy vibes. The initial read was pretty bad nitpicking, it felt like he decided to scum read someone lynchbaity before he looked for posts to back the read (if you actually look at the posts he's pointing out as "fluff"). 85 is opportunistic imo.In post 115, Fromage wrote:
Careful. I didn't say Eragon's fluff outweighs his content. I said I don't like his fluff. I'm not even sure if I scumread him.In post 101, Egg wrote:Fromage, why does eragons fluff outweigh his content?inconsistencythat scum likes to push cause it looks pushable without being actual things scum does-
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reading inferno now and I have hard time believing this angrily replaced out while L-1 as actual scum cause it'd be incredibly dickish thing to do
but I'm not townreading wh4t. for all the reasons someone could probably come up with for scumreading me, "catching" me in a "scumslip" feels disingenuous alongside the way she is pushing eragon.-
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so you read me posting a readslist and still clicked send with the last sentenceIn post 304, Wh4t wrote:
I'm referring to Poseidon's 280In post 299, Toranaga wrote:I didn't read anyone else's thoughts on that dude
didn't you replace into this yesterday? why are you posting so very little here?
I was waiting for the mod to confirm my slot. I don't think it's fair to say I'm posting very little since then lol. If we turn that around, your lack of activity is also suspicious, combine that with you beetlejuicing just now, and we get Toranaga scumcake. I know you're a motivated and active town player in contrast to being a demotivated and lurky scumplayer.
As an aside I'd like some reads from you when you get the chance.
I either don't care about game or I fully care about it with no in between
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lol sorry mateIn post 307, LastManStanding wrote:Toranaga replaces ManateeDude!
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I meant fromage, I'm an idiotIn post 310, Wh4t wrote:
Where am I pushing Eragon? It's strange that you don't ask for more thoughts on my scumread like Poseidon did, but just jump to the conclusion I'm scum from what I disclosed as a skimming read.In post 302, Toranaga wrote:but I'm not townreading wh4t. for all the reasons someone could probably come up with for scumreading me, "catching" me in a "scumslip" feels disingenuous alongside the way she is pushing eragon.
Pedit beetlejuicing is when you appear when you're being talked about.
#280 is pushing people for NAI stuff, yes? flip flopping isn't wolfy, neither is calling other people inconsistent when you're flip flopping yourself cause being hypocritical is specifically not a wolfy thing
I subbed in to a widely talked of slot my dear. the only reason I started posting right now is because I saw you posted on central park and figured you were online and posting in my game, so I wanted to talk to you.-
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I understand you're unlikely to un-tunnel yourself from this read cause you wanna be right but you're wrong, your reasons so far are alarmingly poor and your fromage read is bad as well
I'm VT so I'm not a terrible lynch and I don't have a good case for anyone being scum from what I can read, so if you wanna move on with the gamestate go ahead
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wh4t is the scummiest player in the game but I'm townreading the slot overrall for angrily replacing out reasons. I'm keeping manatee's vote on it for lack of a better option.
eragon and poseidon don't feel scummy in their ISOs either. I'm not trying to parse out either bujaber or a50 this gameday so that's where I'm gonna be.-
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I'm not saying you're scumIn post 310, Wh4t wrote:
Where am I pushing Eragon? It's strange that you don't ask for more thoughts on my scumread like Poseidon did, but just jump to the conclusion I'm scum from what I disclosed as a skimming read.In post 302, Toranaga wrote:but I'm not townreading wh4t. for all the reasons someone could probably come up with for scumreading me, "catching" me in a "scumslip" feels disingenuous alongside the way she is pushing eragon.
Pedit beetlejuicing is when you appear when you're being talked about.
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ugh this is something personal with wh4t and idk, maybe she can clarify? anyway it refers to a past conversation we had privately and I understand how it looks weird without contextIn post 323, Poseidon wrote:
Possible scumslip?In post 288, Toranaga wrote: in before you're the one who replaced into a mafia slot-
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if only I had randed PR instead.In post 323, Poseidon wrote: Easy claim, not convinced.
READS
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you look objectively scum to me dear, not gonna lie. I'm not trying to have the best of two different worlds, orIn post 318, Wh4t wrote:Toranaga you are assessing my playstyle from the viewpoint of my other personality. It wouldn't seem like town me.
I don't believe my reads are bad or that I'm scummy. I think you're making your cake and eating it too by saying my slot is town but I'm scummy. Saying I'm scummy prolongs the existing paranoia around my slot and it's easier to say I'm scummy instead of looking for opportunities to see where I'm not.
I'll see if I can explain my fromage read better.eating my cake and having it tooor whatever. what I'm saying (and I know you understand what I'm saying) is that you replaced into a slot that was indeed towny and I can't not townread it emotionally when it replaced out. but you are not towny. you are talking about easy things for scum to point out, and I agree with poseidon you look opportunistic.
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I didn't read manatee. I'm sure it's a pretty awful ISO.In post 328, Wh4t wrote:
I wasn't aware that catching up on the game and being transparent with my reads is considered playing badly. Have you read some of the posts from Manatee? Can you not see how others might consider your slot scummy?In post 327, Toranaga wrote:if you're town, re-read your gameday with the idea that I might be town and you'll see how bad you're playing.
What are your thoughts on A50?
A50 isn't someone I can read with any accuracy due to his having a mathblade-ish playstyle and I never truly grasp where he is coming from.
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your reads on both me and fromage are pretty bad and have been talked about at length by myself, yes?In post 330, Wh4t wrote:
If you're not calling my read on Manatee bad then what is bad about my play?In post 329, Toranaga wrote:I didn't read manatee. I'm sure it's a pretty awful ISO.-
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I goofed, I confused your name with fromage's for some reasonIn post 331, Eragon wrote:
Hmmm...In post 302, Toranaga wrote:reading inferno now and I have hard time believing this angrily replaced out while L-1 as actual scum cause it'd be incredibly dickish thing to do
but I'm not townreading wh4t. for all the reasons someone could probably come up with for scumreading me, "catching" me in a "scumslip" feels disingenuous alongside the way she is pushing eragon.
I don't think Wh4t ever was pushing me? l
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revisit this tomorrow @wh4tIn post 333, BuJaber wrote:Nah it's just Tora
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who's obviously towny and why?In post 335, BuJaber wrote:It's not a difficult game to size up imo. Townread the obvious townies claim a null read on the few difficult to read and stick the rest in the scum pool.
They each want attention away from themselves. Tora's play makes little sense if he townreads Inferno for real. Just reads like someone who wants the slot (wh4t) to be lynched but doesn't want to seem too eager. At the same time if inferno flips townie he looks like a genius for 'townreading' the replace-out.
I mean the case hinges on Inferno being town tbh but if inferno slot does flip town it's open and shut.
what do you mean by me wanting attention away from myself? did anything in my posting so far give you the impression I'm trying to stay under the radar?
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well you see, I'm keeping the vote on wh4t for the same reason you're keeping the vote on me. there's no better option so we're both staying where we were.In post 337, Egg wrote:Hmm. I can't think of a reason why scum would claim VT the way Tora just did. But Manatee was scummy and I don't like him keeping his vote on a town read and don't think there's a better option so I'll stay there. I think he's more likely scum than wh4t. Game....meh. I could see him being scum but don't feel strongly enough about that to switch at this time.-
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I'm VT, yesIn post 348, Almost50 wrote:
Perhaps you missed my declaration, but I did say I was gonna hammer aIn post 326, Toranaga wrote:
if only I had randed PR instead.In post 323, Poseidon wrote: Easy claim, not convinced.
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Fro/Wh4tVTclaim (I do feel safer bc it's guaranteed to not hit a TPR, and if it's on scum then double the prize for half the price).
Do you stand by this? Would you care to make it an official explicit claim?
look, can you just let me have the time to work on this, then? I think the setup is way too townsided anyway and I have 0 ego when it comes to subbing into a slot everyone wants to kill, but I have a fairly poor handle of the game and I wanna solve it cause that's the stuff I'm passionate in doing.
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"they're wolfreading me so they must be a wolf!"In post 365, Wh4t wrote:I'm going to let you answer your own question there pal. I
Here's my updated reads based on recent interactions:
{A50, BuJaber, Eragon, GnB}
{Fromage, Egg}
{Toranaga, Poseidon}
Pretty happy with the L-1 and ready to see a flip but I would like to hear Tor's efforting before someone hammers.
poseidon's interactions with wh4t are pretty villagery from poseidon's side and if wh4t was even remotely trying to solve the game instead of OMGUSing everyone who scumreads her she'd have picked up on that.
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I used "you" as a figure of speech to convey my thoughts about the setupIn post 383, Wh4t wrote:
Yes.In post 382, GameNBurger wrote:To reiterate actually for visibility:
WH4T: do you still stand by your claim of Tor scumslipping?
I have no idea what you're doing this game wh4t-
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I never said they are. this is wh4t's stance on it and not mine. I think poseidon has been towny throughout.In post 388, GameNBurger wrote:Tor I forgot to mention I disagree entirely the posideons reads are OMGUS-
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vanity voting? you're L-1 too my dearIn post 392, Wh4t wrote:
This is gross. If the Tor lynch is going to happen and you're surprised he hasn't been hammered and you scum read him, the only reason you would be vanity voting elsewhere is that you're scum and not wanting to be on a villa wagon or voting your buddy.In post 386, GameNBurger wrote:I really am gonna stick to my gut right now on this, i have a feeling the Tor lynch is gonna happen
I’m surprised the hammer hasn’t dropped yet actually-
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that's a big paragraph about many things that don't matter and aren't relevant to my alignment or a read on my slot.In post 391, Almost50 wrote:@Tor: Your 20 now over 60. Your time is up, my friend. Please make sure you post everything you want to in the next 45 minutes. If you're town it will help us all (I still remember we had complimentary reads in the last game we played together were I was SRing one scum and hard TRing the other and you were SRing the one I TR and TRing the one I SR, so believe me when I say I will take your reads into consideration if you flip green). If you're scum though feel free to save your effort cuz Iamhammering you and then I'm not gonna look back at anything you said.
@Burger: The "safer bet" is to always lynch the claimed VT on D1. Youknowa TPR doesn't claim VT @L-1, so we're guaranteed a no TPR flip for starters. It also prevents running up a real TPR who will then have to claim and be outed unnecessarily. So, on D1.. always vote the scummiest player, and if they claim a VT just lynch them.-
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I probably misread the votesIn post 396, Wh4t wrote:
I believe I have 3 votes which would be L-2. Did I miss a vote?In post 393, Toranaga wrote:
vanity voting? you're L-1 too my dearIn post 392, Wh4t wrote:
This is gross. If the Tor lynch is going to happen and you're surprised he hasn't been hammered and you scum read him, the only reason you would be vanity voting elsewhere is that you're scum and not wanting to be on a villa wagon or voting your buddy.In post 386, GameNBurger wrote:I really am gonna stick to my gut right now on this, i have a feeling the Tor lynch is gonna happen
I’m surprised the hammer hasn’t dropped yet actually
what do you think of how A50 is treating my slot? or bujaber? they're both, much like you, set on just getting me lynched and while bujaber is at least reasoning to how manatee has played, I have no idea why A50 is strong scumreading me and his last paragraph to me says nothing about his read on my alignment.
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it doesn't sit right to me that he is talking about whatever past game we had to say he'll respect my reads after I die, and nothing about the actual game we're playing.In post 399, GameNBurger wrote:
.........and???????In post 394, Toranaga wrote:
that's a big paragraph about many things that don't matter and aren't relevant to my alignment or a read on my slot.In post 391, Almost50 wrote:@Tor: Your 20 now over 60. Your time is up, my friend. Please make sure you post everything you want to in the next 45 minutes. If you're town it will help us all (I still remember we had complimentary reads in the last game we played together were I was SRing one scum and hard TRing the other and you were SRing the one I TR and TRing the one I SR, so believe me when I say I will take your reads into consideration if you flip green). If you're scum though feel free to save your effort cuz Iamhammering you and then I'm not gonna look back at anything you said.
@Burger: The "safer bet" is to always lynch the claimed VT on D1. Youknowa TPR doesn't claim VT @L-1, so we're guaranteed a no TPR flip for starters. It also prevents running up a real TPR who will then have to claim and be outed unnecessarily. So, on D1.. always vote the scummiest player, and if they claim a VT just lynch them.-
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my thoughts are pretty clearly laid out across my ISO and I have no sympathy for doing things when people are threatening to hammer me instead.In post 401, GameNBurger wrote:For the love of god Tor read the writing on the wall and post your reads
I have you, fromage, poseidon and to a smaller extent, egg, as townreads
wh4t is a good villager with nuanced, intelligent reads that come from a sensible place and not anything she displayed in this game. it's obvious to me and will be obvious to you once I flip.
a50 and bujaber are null as I never ISO'd them and I don't take the things they're saying in real time as alignment indicative, although I am very uneasy with how hard they're both trying to get me killed without reasoning with me or anything I'm doing here
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I never stalledIn post 403, Wh4t wrote:
Can I add: not gamesolving, not assertive, not having fun, stalling.In post 400, Toranaga wrote:are you scumreading me for any reason outside of manatee and using "you" as a figure of speech?
I never have fun when I'm L-1
I'm as assertive as the strength of my reads
I'm solving way more than you and everyone else ever since I started posting
take this as a learning experience for when I flip. if you're town, and I hope to god you're not, you've lined yourself up to be mislynched by aggressively wrong tunneling me, and let the gameday be an easy coast as wolves just watch town eat themselves up.-
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before you hammerIn post 409, Almost50 wrote:
It wasn't meant to be related to your alignment and/or the read on your slot. It was a reminder that IF you flip Town I will look back at what you said.In post 394, Toranaga wrote:
that's a big paragraph about many things that don't matter and aren't relevant to my alignment or a read on my slot.In post 391, Almost50 wrote:@Tor: Your 20 now over 60. Your time is up, my friend. Please make sure you post everything you want to in the next 45 minutes. If you're town it will help us all (I still remember we had complimentary reads in the last game we played together were I was SRing one scum and hard TRing the other and you were SRing the one I TR and TRing the one I SR, so believe me when I say I will take your reads into consideration if you flip green). If you're scum though feel free to save your effort cuz Iamhammering you and then I'm not gonna look back at anything you said.
@Burger: The "safer bet" is to always lynch the claimed VT on D1. Youknowa TPR doesn't claim VT @L-1, so we're guaranteed a no TPR flip for starters. It also prevents running up a real TPR who will then have to claim and be outed unnecessarily. So, on D1.. always vote the scummiest player, and if they claim a VT just lynch them.
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oh why do you have to be towny nowIn post 411, Wh4t wrote:
I am town. And I can't take your concern for my slot seriously with your vote on me. I will have no sympathy if you're town because you basically gave up.In post 406, Toranaga wrote:take this as a learning experience for when I flip. if you're town, and I hope to god you're not, you've lined yourself up to be mislynched by aggressively wrong tunneling me, and let the gameday be an easy coast as wolves just watch town eat themselves up.
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listen, right. I never "basically gave up", I just wouldn't be able to post for the majority of the day and since I was L-1 already I wanted to make myself ready for it, post thoughts, claim and let it happen. that isn't giving up, that's just the only pro-town action I can take when I'm not gonna be around. I couldn't work the game as planned, that's on me. but you just accused me of stalling, yes? claiming VT and assuring the gameday will end instead of having people go around in circles wondering if they should hold until I do claim, is the opposite of stalling. I did the best I could with what I was randed and how many people, you particularly, were behaving around me.
now check your own ISO and the reasons why you're pushing people. you'll notice you're doing a whole lot of OMGUS pushing whenever someone suspects you. your scumreads, afaict, are all the people that voted you. why are bujaber and a50 so high in your reads list? I don't understand why you're scumreading poseidon either... his interaction with you felt really pure on his end.
on top of that, you first started pushing me on a ridiculous "scumslip" read that's disingenuous from you and you have to think people are stupid to believe that's something you believe in. that's how you started treating my slot and now you're daring to say you're unconcerned with my slot because I'm voting you. why should I be concerned with your slot when you started the game with disingenuous stupid tunneling that makes no sense?-
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yeah I was replying to wh4t thereIn post 426, Eragon wrote:@tora pre-flip post?
I'm already at peace with getting hammered so that's whatever
nice timing for you to just appear here to do it when I'm trying to talk things out tho
I think wh4t's unvote was towny at any rate-
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when have I AtE'd? I'm trying as hard as I can to keep this as deadpan as possibleIn post 414, Almost50 wrote:@Tor: WHO IS SCUM if you're Town? I don't want to go through your ISO when I'm not even sure of your alignment. Nothing of it will exactly *sparkle* for me anyway if I don't know your alignment. So, give me a lynch target with a good reason and I may buy it. Your AtE really annoys me.-
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I was actually pretty confident in wh4t being scum and reasoned why at length before she unvoted me, which is a layer of playing the game I'm not sure she has a wolf. I think wolf!wh4t would probably already be bothered enough with the gameday going on to never remove the chance of getting me killed here.In post 435, Almost50 wrote:UNVOTE:
If this flips scum I'll feel like I got a new stain on my reputation (which isn't "a great scum hunter" anyway).
@Tor: In the last game (of Neighborhoods) you eventually did come up with someone who you were confident was scum. Do you have any similar feelings here? What's your read on GnB??
OTOH she looks absolutely awful when I flip so this could be a calculated move
anyway, I'm torn here. it's d1 and scum is playing well.
GNB is likely town, I think I gave some thoughts on him yesterday. I could ISO him to give more detail to this.-
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I actually bought it, I didn't remember eragon was voting meIn post 436, GameNBurger wrote:He didn’t buy it and it totally does
That and when you said to not resubmit it’s a bit obvious-
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but when was I too emotional? of course I'm bothered and of course subbing into a slot that's decided as the lynch before I even got to post anything fucking sucks, right? but I'm not appealing to anyone's emotions and I'm confused why you're reading me as someone who is doing that. especially on MS where people legitimately AtE to the point of subbing out, like already happened this game...In post 442, Almost50 wrote:
When you show anger over being lynched or being about to be lynched I consider that AtE.In post 431, Toranaga wrote:
when have I AtE'd? I'm trying as hard as I can to keep this as deadpan as possibleIn post 414, Almost50 wrote:@Tor: WHO IS SCUM if you're Town? I don't want to go through your ISO when I'm not even sure of your alignment. Nothing of it will exactly *sparkle* for me anyway if I don't know your alignment. So, give me a lynch target with a good reason and I may buy it. Your AtE really annoys me.
We're not at war here and you're not gonna really die. It's just a game and -obviously- you are well respected and loved here, so I don't see why you've been too emotional of late. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe you're genuinely upset for some reason, and if that's the case then I'm sorry.-
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I thought I was hammered so yeah it looked weirdIn post 445, Eragon wrote:In post 428, Toranaga wrote:
yeah I was replying to wh4t thereIn post 426, Eragon wrote:@tora pre-flip post?
I'm already at peace with getting hammered so that's whatever
nice timing for you to just appear here to do it when I'm trying to talk things out tho
I think wh4t's unvote was towny at any rate
do you still stand by this>
reaction testing me was pretty towny though. you have no reason to do that as scum.-
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are you upset with me or something? you've become very nonchalant all of a suddenIn post 451, Wh4t wrote:Yeah.