They can, but that doesn’t answer my question. Why is he town?In post 1799, RCEnigma wrote:Town can't be wrong? He also scumread you day one and you're also in my town block. I townread him independent of his scumreads.In post 1796, ofrhz wrote:Why is Max town? Max's only scumread is someone else in your townblocIn post 1793, RCEnigma wrote:If I had to form a town block right now it would be something like FL, Performer, AP, Profii, ofrhz, Maxous.
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My initial scumread on Maxous was his scumread on you. Low and mostly forced participation, reactive posting (mostly to prods on him). I associated his play with some of my scum tells. Day 2 his play is a flip from that. He came out active and sure he's tunneling but I find that town indicative as well.
The only way I see Maxous pursuing his AP this hard as scum is if he is scum with AP. The wagon isn't going anywhere post claim but Maxous still wanting town to keep an open mind about the claim instead of pursuing an easier read that town has already expressed interest in (Nero) is also town indicative to me.
To add to that if Shattiel were to flip scum, Maxous is town spewed. If AP flips town Maxous is probably town as well.-
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Why is his tunnel town indicative tho?In post 1803, RCEnigma wrote:My initial scumread on Maxous was his scumread on you. Low and mostly forced participation, reactive posting (mostly to prods on him). I associated his play with some of my scum tells. Day 2 his play is a flip from that. He came out active and sure he's tunneling but I find that town indicative as well.
I see him presenting a case on AP but not once does he actually engage directly with AP. I know you don’t like meta reads, but town max is capable of initiating discussion with his scumreads and asking questions, and how he approaches his scumreads here is bizarre-
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Hmm I don’t have a whole lot of confidence that Shattiel is scum tbh. I see a trend where Flubber went for lynchbaity players yesterday, and I don’t think Shattiel and flubber’s interactions were partneryIn post 1803, RCEnigma wrote:To add to that if Shattiel were to flip scum-
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Look, I've been lazy. I haven't done the ISO reads I said I would but I promise to get on those. I care more about finding and lynching scum than throwing out a bunch of uninformed reads so Billy Dee town reads me. I am busy today and on Sundays, I like to relax and watch football. I'll put the work in and game solve on Monday.In post 1788, Completly Trustworthy wrote:and Nero Cain has provided few reads. I also dislike how he has criticized XX multiple times, but hasn't been that active at actually pushing him and is not voting him at this time.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Couple things to consider, some relate to other reasons Maxous is town and some don't.In post 1808, ofrhz wrote:
Why is his tunnel town indicative tho?In post 1803, RCEnigma wrote:My initial scumread on Maxous was his scumread on you. Low and mostly forced participation, reactive posting (mostly to prods on him). I associated his play with some of my scum tells. Day 2 his play is a flip from that. He came out active and sure he's tunneling but I find that town indicative as well.
I see him presenting a case on AP but not once does he actually engage directly with AP. I know you don’t like meta reads, but town max is capable of initiating discussion with his scumreads and asking questions, and how he approaches his scumreads here is bizarre
So Scum Maxous comes into the the day with 1 person scumreading him dead. FL went into the night dubbing him scum and myself painting him as scum with Shattiel. Opens the day with a hard case against AP(immediate attention on a previously lurky slot) the counter case being, well Maxous did some of those things too....which is...what??? A scummy action is scummy regardless of who it comes from or how many slots it comes from but whatever.
Pretty sure FL made a play in calling Maxous scum going into the night. But he hasn't spoken about Maxous today so I'll leave that where it is unless FL wants me to go into it. It worked btw.
Dvas death looks bad on Maxous but with the tracker result it semi clears him and leads me to believe Maxous didn't have input in the kill for similar reasoning FL gave on XX not being involved. I guess scum Maxous still makes that call if they have more than one informed role, which is possible.-
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I somewhat find saudade's sheeping on fl's vote to be towny. fl is a confirmed town, and in the event that he votes a scum player, it would be hard for saudade to decline voting that person if he himself were scum.
I think ap could be fake claiming. It's strange how we have one town PR dead and two claimed. It's unlikely there are so many PRs in one game, as I remembered in the beginning of the game that people said our mod generally designed setups with few PRs. It's easier to claim disloyal rb and get away with it for scum. I'm currently scumreading him.
It would be hard to claim a multitasking JOAT and not be found out later in the game, so I believe performer's claim.
ofrhz is actively contributing and trying to find scum, which I like. However, I think him sheeping day1 wasn't exactly towny, which makes me wonder about his alignment.-
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