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~MiaowIn post 51, ProFlavor wrote:Yeah, sure. Let’s lynch the Worst on page 3 again. See if a pattern of lynching him page 3 gives 100% scum flip-
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No it’s not. The last time he got page 3 lynched he flipped scum. He’s probably scum.In post 60, Taly wrote:k +1 toTW+Shotown can we move on now
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disagreed c:Shoshin the worst wrote:
This is super awkward.In post 43, Taly wrote:not feeling the kokichi IC claim but i slight townvibe it anyway
VOTE: Taly
whats awkward is that L-3 wagon on you
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no not really.In post 253, Mewtaph wrote:
It doesn't really look like a push to me, it just looks like they responded to Shoshin the worst's inquiry. Doesn't the post right above (250) fit along the lines described in 251 of "pint is scummy because he did X"?In post 251, ProFlavor wrote:I don't like u r a person 2 pushing pint - the push has a lot of stuff that pint hasn't done (e.g. promise of catch up) and less stuff along the lines of "pint is scummy because he did X"
why is activity now AI?
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~ woofIn post 264, ProFlavor wrote:
no not really.In post 253, Mewtaph wrote:
It doesn't really look like a push to me, it just looks like they responded to Shoshin the worst's inquiry. Doesn't the post right above (250) fit along the lines described in 251 of "pint is scummy because he did X"?In post 251, ProFlavor wrote:I don't like u r a person 2 pushing pint - the push has a lot of stuff that pint hasn't done (e.g. promise of catch up) and less stuff along the lines of "pint is scummy because he did X"
why is activity now AI?
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~ woof woof grrr woof woofIn post 368, profii wrote:
I posted them in our hydra thread and FL said he pretty much agreed so hereIn post 336, Alchemist21 wrote:@ProFlavor what are your reads?
As of p11
1.Shoshin the worst (the worst + Shoshin hydra) - could go either way - I feel like TW has lurked it out because he knows he could get speed lynched haha
2.Mephistophanes 39 (Nancy Drew 39 and Aristophanes hydra) - prob town
3.Varsoon - prob town
4.Almost Chara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra) - dunno yet
5.Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra) - dunno yet
6.Kokichi Oma - dunno yet
7.Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra) - prob town
8.nicorobin - would lynch
9.Mewtaph - dunno yet
10.alchemist21- dunno yet
11.ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra) - hallelujah
12.u r a person 2 - would lynch
13.pinturicchio - dunno yet
14.Taly - probably town
On reflection of Nico - I played a game with Nico and everyone made a meta comment about her lurking - so obviously she is lurking but the reason I put “would lynch” rather than dunno yet is that the 2nd post was like someone dragged her into the game - ie - setting up an excuse to not bother posting
But then I think the lurk meta might have been Town indicative and I can’t remember (someone confirm???)
I’ll read the last few pages
I’ve never hydra’d before - I’m not sure how much I’m supposed to post or confer in private
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Nicos 2nd post came across like “ugh fine I’ll play if I must” - like a setup for later so she can be like “I’m lurking because I told you I’m already not really engaged in this game” (it’s a weak read on one sentence tbh)In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:Flesh out the difference between your scumread of Nico and U2’s scumread of Pint. They seem the same to me because you’re both pushing someone for not posting.
U R is more like “I’m don’t see pint doing anything so I’ll just apply pressure” - I note his point that he knows Pint and wants to sort that slot - but I’m sure U r knows how to play the game in general so there are plenty of other dudes to sort - sticking on a read that basically consists of “he’s not doing anything” makes me think he wants to line up the rest of his reads to “fit in” with town - you can’t do that whilst (up to page 11 which I’ve read properly) most of the game has been about STW because you don’t know who is going to obvtown or scum it up
So I feel like U r is biding his time on an easy read-
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someone said something about FL coasting a bit - he always does that. He invited me to hydra with him so I was kinda thinking I'd let him lead proceedings but he is never going to be as active as I am so that approach probably wont help.
I recall someone asking me about my T&L read- its not an amazing read really - BH & GE are both players I approach by saying they are town until they do something scummy because I mostly just don't get any vibe from what they say - I often play with him and people in the player list will be like 'oh gamma/BH is def scum' and I'm just sat here like "am I stupid i do not get that?!"
...but, for example in overkill 2, gamma was obviously defending a scum player so it was obviously AI and led to me copping him.
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There are people who think we seriously wanted a page 3 lynch so anything's possibleIn post 506, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
Is there anyone who really believed you triple voted them?In post 493, Varsoon wrote:Forgot to sign, whoops.
Also, screw it, here's my dumb rationale there:
Scum allies of STW didn't want to say anything to toss any sort of associative on the off-chance it was a real hammer and so they silently let it slide until mod confirmed it one way or another and they're smart enough to know that they'd get no points for making a fuss over it once confirmed as a lie.
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Because this argument rests squarely on that presumption.
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Many posts incoming - apologies in advance...
I think I have played with you once (Overkill) and you day vigged me so you are liable to fake gambit thingys. Applying BoP I don't think you are someone who unilaterally decides to lynch someone without the usual intent/claim etc process. I could be wrong but I don't think I am...In post 469, Varsoon wrote:For people who thought my triple-vote-hammer was fake; why did you stay silent about it?
I'm curious.
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That doesn't actually explain the reason for ignoring you - if I reacted, I'd probably give away that I thought you were messing about, therefore we wouldn't get the right reaction so I just stayed out the way (I did see it but not had much time to post this week... hence this incoming spam !)In post 839, ProFlavor wrote:Many posts incoming - apologies in advance...
I think I have played with you once (Overkill) and you day vigged me so you are liable to fake gambit thingys. Applying BoP I don't think you are someone who unilaterally decides to lynch someone without the usual intent/claim etc process. I could be wrong but I don't think I am...In post 469, Varsoon wrote:For people who thought my triple-vote-hammer was fake; why did you stay silent about it?
I'm curious.
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I played a game with Nico where Nico insisted lurk meta was town indicative but then Nico lurked and flipped scum :@In post 539, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Wow where did you hear this?In post 381, Varsoon wrote:
Shitty reads are an inherent part of mafia. Players swapping at the table in long-form play is not a design element of the game.In post 367, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Game integrity is also compromised by shitty reads, so there’s that too,
Anyway.
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hate when people say stuff like this.... tell me why because I'm thickIn post 559, Varsoon wrote:Shooting you confirms me as town.
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interestingly phrased, are you saying you don't town read therefore it's null or are you saying you don't town read me therefore you scum read ?In post 599, u r a person 2 wrote:ProFlavor's game is remarkably light. They are scum reading one person for lurking, me for voting a lurker, and T&L because they always town read them early, as far as I can recall.They also have a bunch of naked town reads. Currently trying to engage that slot, but I don't have any reason to town read them-
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which means any real day vig would not need to ask this questionIn post 686, Krazy wrote:
That would depend on the range of acceptable parameters I established with the player in the role PM, and if in doubt I would clarify the issue by PM.In post 680, Varsoon wrote:@MOD: If someone has a hypothetical day-vigilante role with flavor tied to the ability name, would you, as a mod, accept the action if the user had just written Day Vig: Playername-
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to be fair when I blacklist people I don't tell them, I just don't join games they are in - like I already saw a post from nancy about how blacklists should be banned and I fully agree - however, if I think someone is a numpty who cant behave I will avoid them and because I'm old and boring I just keep it to myself.
not directed at you as I'm not blacklisting you but I just wanted to add my comments on this as it's like a really easy problem to solve - be civil and if you cant shut up and don't play-
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so far I'm reading it like Varsoon is trying to manufacturer the fact that he is the declared town aligned person and inventing that he is the vig...In post 726, Almost Chara wrote:@TWS: Could you also calm down a bit? Let's try to figure things outmechanically. Between you and Varsoon I'd say he's townier than you, but I could see you both being Town. Chara probably sees it the other way around, but I'm sure I can convince them this is Varsoon's Town game.
Som anyway.. do you have any knowledge of Starcraft?
but saying that, if that's the case, Krazy wouldn't give it away with the way he responded to Varsoon so idk...
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interesting that Varsoon is actually bottom and ground have some advantage (taking your word for that bit idk anything about star craft)In post 727, u r a person 2 wrote:I sincerely doubt that the mod would be so... trolly
but in starcraft 1 there is a high ground advantage mechanic
where units firing up hill have a roughly 50% chance to miss
and stw is above you in the player list ;P
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This is a good point - I think the only caveat to that is you'd be gambling on getting protection somehow soIn post 751, Almost Chara wrote:@Michael Scott: You answered your own question. Any experienced player wouldn't claim Vig knowing there IS a Vig that would shoot them, except if they were @L-1 maybe (and it still would have been a bad move), and Varsoon wasn't even under pressure.
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I'd argue when some people derp in places they usually wouldn't it can be a scum tell - but certain people in certain scenarios.In post 798, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Burden of proficiency.In post 789, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
Can you please explain BoP, thanks. And yes, I know it stands for burden of proficiency but I don’t know what that means?In post 586, Shoshin the worst wrote:
We honestly can't apply BoP because we have no idea what people's alignments are. More that we think the subconscious mindset you've presented with some of your reads has been scum indicative.In post 583, u r a person 2 wrote:meta,
We really don't believe in reading people via bop at all. Categorically.
I was looking for some stuff in this game which I should townread. Sorry if this felt like a breakthrough but I'm not sure how to see anything AI in the BoP argument. It might be slightly towny because of the disconnect maybe? But then scum who are caught for the wrong reason often react the same way. So I'm quite net null on it
Basically, the idea that "because Player X isn't proficient, they must be scum". For example, saying "because Nancy mislynched scum and had bad reads she must be scum". It's a nonsensical argument.
Here URAP2 is suggesting I'm BoPing him because I'm saying "because you didn't have the same read as us on a lurker post, you must be scum".-
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should have let people nominate a vig shot mr super duper reaction test man.
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In post 38, NicoRobin wrote:I am in this game.In post 39, NicoRobin wrote:Why again? I wanted to replace later. Instead I got shangaied into this.
I assume you mean the middle post Mem?In post 432, NicoRobin wrote:Baa, baa, black shiiiipppp
Looks like Nico asked to be in the replace queue @ signups but obviously got in to start which is the disgruntlement - arguably the issue start prior to role PMs being dished out so it's technically NAI - from a purely logical perspective it makes my interpretation of Nico setting herself up to lurk on purpose "well I didn't want to play anyway" vibe less relevant
which makes the whole lurker style thing anti town but not necessarily scummy.
I don't like lurkers but that's a policy not a scum read :@-
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I had a thought that I was cop in overkill 2 - claimed on day 1 and last 5 days somehowIn post 751, Almost Chara wrote:@Michael Scott: You answered your own question. Any experienced player wouldn't claim Vig knowing there IS a Vig that would shoot them, except if they were @L-1 maybe (and it still would have been a bad move), and Varsoon wasn't even under pressure.
so given Varsoon likes a fake claim and has meta for it would I believe scum!varsoon would claim a role (at least a variant of said role) that we know exists and therefore risk either a cc or worse yet, would shoot him just to try and get the town cred of IC status.
that means you are gambling on 1 of 2 things being true to keep you going:
1. the real vig going "oh varsoon just a fake claim he does that for lulz I wont shoot him"
2. the existence of a protection & said protection actually believes the claim.
then another issue - the shot failed and has 'expired' for today somehow - This implies another go tomorrow- on the fact that Varsoon was confident enough today, you can't bottle it tomorrow and say you're not sure so holstering, you'd surely get lynched tomorrow
All these options severely reduce the lifespan of varsoon regardless of any wifom - my gut is telling me to not believe the claim but the logic is saying there is no advantage to scum of claiming
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Woof oops sorryIn post 870, profii wrote:
Your read list is like a lot of town reads and question marks on the lurkier slotsIn post 868, u r a person 2 wrote:
lots out of game on my plate today. haven't read over yesterday yet. this is where im at right now. I'm also interested in taly as I continue doing a round of looking at my town reads.In post 855, Varsoon wrote:What are your reads, URAP2?
Care to share who you are PoE'ing through and why?
I've been just kinda glossing your recent posts, so if there's answers there, sorry.
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1. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra) town
2. Shoshin the worst (the worst + Shoshin hydra) ???
3. Mewtaph ???
4. u r a person 2 hey, that's me
5. AlmostChara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra) town
6. Mephistophanes 39 (Nancy Drew 39 and Aristophanes hydra) town
7. pinturucchio town
8. nicorobin ???
9. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra) ???
10. Kokichi Oma ???
11. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra) town
12. alchemist21 town
13. Taly town
14. Varsoon town
I did a similar read list and got similar results in my hydra PT
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The last page where a load of people (inc me) have all come out and said “not really got any scum reads” makes me consider the scenario = there is a good scum player amongst the seemingly town bunch and scum are happy if we go Koki/Nico
Perhaps - could the redirect to a lurk lynch be a counter wagon to the heat on STW? In terms of no real counter wagon formed away from STW therefore scum are trying to get town to policy lynch a lurker?
Food for thought
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no idea - his last post was when he said nice read list regarding something i posting on p15 so i dunno where he is rn - i want to know what he thinks too, he often has different reads to me and with lots of people sayings it's hard i think he could just help us with a new angle if that makes senseIn post 889, pinturicchio wrote:Profii, is there any option of getting more of Flavor? Have he at least said something in your Hydra PT?
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i kinda had a feeling you were an alt but didnt know we had played together before all my games are on my wiki (not this profile obvz)In post 892, pinturicchio wrote:That's my thought exactly, Flavor has that confidence that can rekt this shit up, and would help me sorting you too. As I said, you always give me the heebie-jeebies since your first game ever, I can't recall the name but it was a Newbie where you claimed doctor iirc and survided until LyLo and I was so fucking sure you were the remaining scum. From there to Overkill II there hasn't been a game I have read you correctly but I don't have an N big enough to have statistical significance. Also of course I agree with myself lol.
Forgot to sign before, it has been Pin this last two posts
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haha i just checked my wiki - thats the game where scioness sajj was scum - when we started this game i confused scioness with shoshin and thought they were the same person - so i posted a load of stuff in the hydra pt like 'ok i played with scum before here are some meta tells' but then was like oh shit this is different peopleIn post 892, pinturicchio wrote:That's my thought exactly, Flavor has that confidence that can rekt this shit up, and would help me sorting you too. As I said, you always give me the heebie-jeebies since your first game ever, I can't recall the name but it was a Newbie where you claimed doctor iirc and survided until LyLo and I was so fucking sure you were the remaining scum. From there to Overkill II there hasn't been a game I have read you correctly but I don't have an N big enough to have statistical significance. Also of course I agree with myself lol.
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I'm going to get myself in a tunnel but here is how I'm reading this:In post 963, Shoshin the worst wrote:Quack. So much shitposting.
Should we wait for nullslots to do something?
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There is a tunnel on STW and a large proportion of players are saying the gamestate is full of towny dudes - so there is no where for a counter wagon to form - therefore "should we wait for nullslots to do something" could equal "can we wait for the nullslots to do something scummy to take heat off me, as yet, there is no where for people to create a sensible wagon and I'm in a bit of a pickle"
FL said he will catch up soon so I'm just going to let that happen before I go as far as voting/diving down this tunnel, otherwise I would have already.
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no idea what that means but I'm around for a bit so AMA if you want.In post 989, Shoshin the worst wrote:Posts like ProFlavor's last one SHOULD come >rand from scum because of how conspicuously weighted they are
I am currently trying to asses Taly - in a game where loads of people went 'I cant scum read anyone' he had loads of different reads. not sure if this is AI... will come back later with a decision
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True datIn post 1006, Alchemist21 wrote:
It’s as likely as any other scenario.In post 1004, Shoshin the worst wrote:speaking of biased readings what do you all think the odds are that one of nico's scumbuddies was just like "hey vote stw so you're not replaced"
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So even if Nico is scum - Taly has been hard against the Nico wagon because the flip doesn’t give us infoIn post 1086, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
If Nico is town here, that looks good for Taly and vice-versa.In post 1021, Taly wrote:oh lol forgotmephistowas in this game again
...ive played withjeanne11... in 2015.
and ive played withnicoone game this past year... but it doesnt count since she was mislynched early-game for doing the bare minimum to avoid being replaced
I’ve seen scum get lynched and people be against the wagon and sometimes the defender flips scum, sometimes town - so I’m making a mental note that talys issue with the wagon is specifically info gained, rather than “I don’t want to lynch Nico because i find ___ element of her play towny”
Idk what that means it just stood out
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I would say at this point if we were going to policy lynch a lurk slot why Nico over Koki?
Those of you that played Overkill 2 may recall FL admitting either in PT or post game (can’t fully remember) he purposely acted as disengaged to move along to the later stages of the game
Arguably - that’s more Koki, as opposed to Nico simply not being here
So I’ll be keeping an eye on those pushing Nico
I’m gonna go read up on some slots that I haven’t really noticed up to now-
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I don’t think I’ve ever played with scum!Taly - would he be that open wolf if it was s/s - pretty outrageous!In post 1128, Shoshin the worst wrote:
This is a good take. You don't have any thoughts about whether Taly looks s/s with Nico, or like town flailing to defend a lurker wagon?In post 1126, ProFlavor wrote:
So even if Nico is scum - Taly has been hard against the Nico wagon because the flip doesn’t give us infoIn post 1086, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
If Nico is town here, that looks good for Taly and vice-versa.In post 1021, Taly wrote:oh lol forgotmephistowas in this game again
...ive played withjeanne11... in 2015.
and ive played withnicoone game this past year... but it doesnt count since she was mislynched early-game for doing the bare minimum to avoid being replaced
I’ve seen scum get lynched and people be against the wagon and sometimes the defender flips scum, sometimes town - so I’m making a mental note that talys issue with the wagon is specifically info gained, rather than “I don’t want to lynch Nico because i find ___ element of her play towny”
Idk what that means it just stood out
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If it’s town!taly / either!Nico - it’s meaningless - talys just right that Nico is basically a policy lynch and its NAI
If it’s not town!taly I can only see it being scum!taly / town!Nico - taly ends up in day 2 with subliminal credibility of not lynching Nico without actually saying town!Nico - just PL are bad guys
It’s subliminal credibility because you’d never re-read the thread and be like “taly identified Nico!town” but in VCA - taly wasn’t on a town lynch (which can feasibly go through) so you probably give him credibility in your mind as you reflect on VCA but can’t really recall things (I’m thinking like in day 3 onwards etc)
Haven’t decided which - leaning T/T on gut instinct-
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Hi The WorstIn post 1130, Shoshin the worst wrote:if Kokichi just genuinely doesn't follow through on catching up he's obviously a fierce contender. I see nothing to townread from either of them but his catchup promise over just a naked vote is closer to playing in good faith than Nico's lurking/naked vote/complaining thing.-
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ErmmmIn post 1137, Taly wrote:STW, you never answered my question -_-
Why are you so content on lynchingNicoif your vote there is pressure? Do you strongly scumread them?
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vote has stayed because of a lack of FL, I'd like to hear from him and he said he'd be around soon so no rush
I dont think nico has posted enough content to move the slot out of null - i agree that the lynch is a policy lynch - I'd argue that Koki is a 1% better policy lynch because he keeps popping in and saying 'I'll be back etc' which could be scum acting disengaged to coast day 1 - I'd ironically compare that to my early nico scum read based off one little thing so it's not really something I'd go - this is the slot that should eat rope today - totally insufficient data right now.
and the bit about associatives - at the moment I'm finding my VCA/associate game to serve me quite well right now so I want to make sure we are good there - PL wont help, but as per above koki is 1% more useful to lynch than nico
we have a bit of time to make a real lynch though so no problem-
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Well hi Shoshin, for a hydra that claims to coordinate all posts with each other this post strikes as something you haven’t conferred over - almost like my accusation of this pocketing has shook you a little bit - guess I’m on the moneyIn post 1163, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Wait sorry what pocketing? The duck head pockets as both alignments and has no problems talking about pocketing. I'm not sure what you consider pocketing here.In post 1156, profii wrote:In post 1132, ProFlavor wrote:
Hi The WorstIn post 1130, Shoshin the worst wrote:if Kokichi just genuinely doesn't follow through on catching up he's obviously a fierce contender. I see nothing to townread from either of them but his catchup promise over just a naked vote is closer to playing in good faith than Nico's lurking/naked vote/complaining thing.
it others me that i call out TWs blatant pocketing on the last page and whoosh gone i have to sayIn post 1133, Shoshin the worst wrote:Sup-
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I thought it was fairly obvious and didn’t warrant a specific answer - no ones really going pocketing what? So I’ll leave it at thatIn post 1194, Shoshin the worst wrote:
This is a brilliant way not to answer my question. What about this strikes you as pocketing and why do you think it's an issue I walked away from my PC at the time?In post 1189, ProFlavor wrote:
Well hi Shoshin, for a hydra that claims to coordinate all posts with each other this post strikes as something you haven’t conferred over - almost like my accusation of this pocketing has shook you a little bit - guess I’m on the moneyIn post 1163, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Wait sorry what pocketing? The duck head pockets as both alignments and has no problems talking about pocketing. I'm not sure what you consider pocketing here.In post 1156, profii wrote:In post 1132, ProFlavor wrote:
Hi The WorstIn post 1130, Shoshin the worst wrote:if Kokichi just genuinely doesn't follow through on catching up he's obviously a fierce contender. I see nothing to townread from either of them but his catchup promise over just a naked vote is closer to playing in good faith than Nico's lurking/naked vote/complaining thing.
it others me that i call out TWs blatant pocketing on the last page and whoosh gone i have to sayIn post 1133, Shoshin the worst wrote:Sup
The walking away bit might have been coincidental
The breaking out into 2 heads was the most interesting though-
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I’m interested to see if the rest of the group find this note worthy so I’ll come back to this in a couple pages timeIn post 1217, Shoshin the worst wrote:
What do you mean about breaking into 2 heads? and what about it interests you?In post 1201, ProFlavor wrote:I thought it was fairly obvious and didn’t warrant a specific answer - no ones really going pocketing what? So I’ll leave it at that
The walking away bit might have been coincidental
The breaking out into 2 heads was the most interesting though-
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I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbhIn post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?-
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Was this the one where we partnered up and had two desperate games?In post 1222, ProFlavor wrote:
I could link the friends game Gamma talked about and say Nico lurking can go either way tbhIn post 1221, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Does no one have anything to say about post 1195?
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