Open 757: Panic Room!

[ejjinami]

Sigh, can I get my money back now?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: maadneet

[ejjinami]

bomb

[ejjinami]

vote:rosterfoster

Stop pretending to be new fumuki

who is fumuki?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Maadnet

Beautiful symmetry.

why aren't you screaming?

[ejjinami]

Agh.

heh xD
good enough

[ejjinami]

Should it be longer?

no, it was perfect <3

[ejjinami]

I hardclaim bomb. Lynch me now and I promise that I'll kill all of you as quickly and as painlessly as possible.
People going out of the bunker in return would be appreciated

[ejjinami]

OH I almost forgot to mention the most important thing!!!!!


I CAN TICK!!!

[ejjinami]

beep

[ejjinami]

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[ejjinami]

beep

[ejjinami]

is it enough for you to lynch me now?

[ejjinami]

don't forget about going out of the bunker

luv u

[ejjinami]

haha

VOTE: ejjinami

absolutely agree with you on that one

[ejjinami]

yeah, we have a deal, remember?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: ofrhz

this is a really lazy vote btw

[ejjinami]

I think the question is do you have an issue with it?

yeah, I do
it's lazy

I can understand all of those who posted random votes at the beginning, but people (I) have been

shitposting

posting stuff, that might be slightly more informative than RNG, yet you decided to just ignore it and passively wait till someone else does the job for you

I feel ignored

[ejjinami]

from experience I can tell that is isn't AI all that often, but I'd say my first impression of you isn't very good

[ejjinami]

You have 2 choices rn, either shitpost with me, or scum-read me
The other players haven't done anything till now, so choosing to do anything else is not allowed

[ejjinami]

be a man
be brave
don't whine
just do it

[ejjinami]

Take a High Risk Gamble!

PFFFFT XD

[ejjinami]

I mean, I'm the bomb, so as long as you go out of the bunker as promised, there won't be any risks anyway

[ejjinami]

I'm dissapointed that nobody else is joining us.

yeah :/

[ejjinami]

I think the question is do you have an issue with it?

yeah, I do
it's lazy

I can understand all of those who posted random votes at the beginning, but people (I) have been

shitposting

posting stuff, that might be slightly more informative than RNG, yet you decided to just ignore it and passively wait till someone else does the job for you

I feel ignored

Were you expecting a game solve from me with it? Or would you just appreciate I say, "this name sounds scummy" with the vote? Does a comment as irrelevant as that help with not being a 'lazy' vote.

If you feel ignored, you should try and change what your doing, unless that's your actual goal here?

yeah. I was, lol
you completely ignored all of the posts which "could" be considered jokes, which I think should mean that you wanted to skip it and get so scum-reading as soon as possible
if so, I find your choice of action suboptimal

Yes, writing "XXX is scummy" would have been more helpful imo.
and if your vote was based on a real read, do you mind elaborating on it?

[ejjinami]

You're so devoid of warmth.

lol, that ^

[ejjinami]

yeah. I was, lol
you completely ignored all of the posts which "could" be considered jokes, which I think should mean that you wanted to skip it and get so scum-reading as soon as possible
if so, I find your choice of action suboptimal

Yes, writing "XXX is scummy" would have been more helpful imo.
and if your vote was based on a real read, do you mind elaborating on it?

I just don't have a sense of humour therefore I'm ignore the typical day 1 jokes, even more so with this player list. I'm not against it, knock yourself out, I'm just not participating.
My vote wasn't based on a real read. I was calculating to what kind of reaction I was looking for. I was considering a vote on you while you were self voting to see the response of opportunist, but given it was you self voting it weakens the reaction.
I wanted to see how Orfhz acted on a my vote there, but that's irrelevant now.

/shrug, ok, I guess

I'm still self-voting btw

do you know anyone else here?
I

think

I've seen roster play before, but that should be it....

if you don't have anything else to do, I don't really mind you filling me in, or sth

[ejjinami]

That's a remarkably sophisticated thought process.

Pedit: Hai, can you quicklynch the bomb pls thnks.

doesn't seem AI though


and yes, please

[ejjinami]

That's a remarkably sophisticated thought process.

Pedit: Hai, can you quicklynch the bomb pls thnks.

why do you think he is specifically the bomb?

I claimed

and hi, haha, so you are an alt after all

[ejjinami]

I know every player here.
I'm not using meta in regards of reads on this account though, so it's going to be purely how everyone plays in this game.

There's not a rush to do things, but at least it's some sort of progression from you.

wait, you know me? whoa :0
I don't have a lot of games here, so that's a bit surprising
but ok

[ejjinami]

no?

it kills everyone out of the neighbourhood and that includes the mafiosos?

since in day 1 only town is inside the neighbourhood (town recruiter, town recruit), i imagine we instantly win by lynching bomb day 1.

[ejjinami]

best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

idk if there's actually anything that can be done about that and tbh I don't really give a crap about it
lynch scum, try to get correct reads, appear more townie than scum
the usual stuff
everything depends on those who are in charge anyway

no?

it kills everyone out of the neighbourhood and that includes the mafiosos?

since in day 1 only town is inside the neighbourhood (town recruiter, town recruit), i imagine we instantly win by lynching bomb day 1.

Okay I mis understood it then and thought it meant PT's in general.
So why do you think scum claim it here if that's the case? For the town credit?

actually, for shits and giggles
I can't say I couldn't have done that

[ejjinami]

ejjinami kind of looks like the kind of player that doesn`t give a fuck about being cautious as far as i see?

they might just be the bomb and thought `i`ll claim bomb there, self vote and all, then no one will think i`m the bomb since that would be very anti-mafia`

it wouldn`t really be about gaining town credit, it would be about making us think that there is no way that he is the bomb.

not sure how probably that is, would need to check how he plays normally

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

actually, I don't joke that much normally
I'm just in a really good mood rn

I'm curious of your opinion if you do end up checking my previous games though. So I absolutely encourage you to do it, if you want to.

gtg

P.Edit:

ejjinami kind of looks like the kind of player that doesn`t give a fuck about being cautious as far as i see?

they might just be the bomb and thought `i`ll claim bomb there, self vote and all, then no one will think i`m the bomb since that would be very anti-mafia`

it wouldn`t really be about gaining town credit, it would be about making us think that there is no way that he is the bomb.

not sure how probably that is, would need to check how he plays normally

There's a huge difference of not being cautious and out right throwing the game.
Ejj doesn't know majority of the player list, so would be unfamiliar with how they react to things. It would essentially be game throwing.
That doesn't mean not scum of course. This could just be a goon going for a gambit. The bomb though? I highly doubt.

I can see your line of thinking with it, the whole WIFOM play, I just think it's not that.

I like that reasoning tbh.


[HRG]
[Lawl, roster]
[everyone else]

this will prob get a bit better later on

[ejjinami]

actually,
VOTE: flubb

Makes quick read flips very telling I would think

can you do sth more useful than that?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Ofrhz

why ofrhz?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Ofrhz

why ofrhz?

She is mafia.

I`m 80% sure of it.

I can’t even tell if it’s a joke or a serious read
Is it because they outed your alt?

[ejjinami]

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

I don’t really like this
Seems overly cautious and the reasoning doesn’t even make sense
The rest of the post is fine though

[ejjinami]

Can someone explain the SRs on ofr to me?
I have no freaking idea what’s going on
Thx

And @jingle I voted flub in post 87

~Fixed, Jingle

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I hardclaim bomb.

I CC.

VOTE: ejjinami

[ejjinami]

You have 2 choices rn, either shitpost with me, or scum-read me

What if I do both?

hahaha, I like you already

[ejjinami]

do you have any thoughts on flubb/temporal/ofr?

[ejjinami]

best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

I had to go back and check if mafia had daytalk. If they didn't I would have really scum read this. It still feels anti-town but I don't see why mafia would want to put the strategy out in the open rather than share it with partners only, so I guess you're town.

I don't see why is sharing that bad?
wouldn't the scums want to get into the bunker anyway?
Sorry for being rude, but Lawliet's post looks kinda worthless to me
I mean, no shit sherlock...

Why exactly would the scums be afraid to share it?

[ejjinami]

do you have any thoughts on flubb/temporal/ofr?

Not yet. I am trying to work on improving my reads so I need to stop considering gut reads with any significance.

ok

[ejjinami]

best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

I had to go back and check if mafia had daytalk. If they didn't I would have really scum read this. It still feels anti-town but I don't see why mafia would want to put the strategy out in the open rather than share it with partners only, so I guess you're town.

Fun fact, if you take this post apart, you’ll see that there’s a surprising amount of stuff written in there.
“he had to check the OP”
“he had a read in case the scums didn’t have daytalk”
“they have daytalk so it doesn’t work”
“it doesn’t work so much, that it’s townie”

and it’s rather obvious that he didn’t have to put all of that in here, especially the parts that make him look more townie / earnest.
It’s not always AI, but it makes me feel that he puts quite a bit of effort into making sure that his posts look good.

[ejjinami]

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

Something's not making me feel good about this post, but I'm not able to parse it in words.

Assuming that theory is correct, this shouldn’t be SvS.
Scum!eyes must have already put in quite a bit of effort to say that “he didn’t know there was daychat”, so I strongly feel that if he was scum with Temporal and wanted to distance from him early, he would have been likely to do it in a more elaborate manner.

I mean, the reasoning doesn’t seem all that strong, but for some reason I really feel it should work that way.

[ejjinami]

Why exactly would the scums be afraid to share it?

Not afraid, but they don't need to. If they didn't have day chat this would have looked like giving instructions to partners though.

And yes, scum do want to be in the bunker, but so do town. The more townies protected the better for us, and the more scum in there the better for them.

You have played around 5 full games on-site? 2-3 games less than me, if you don’t count all of the games I quickly replaced out of.
And 9:12 doesn’t even seem like your first game, so I find it somewhat unlikely that this would be your first time seeing someone make speculations about the setup.

The fact that the scums “don’t need to” share sth, doesn’t mean they won’t do it for towncreed.
Lawliett seemed to want to pretend to be a newbie at the beginning, so I REALLY wouldn’t be surprised if they did that regardless of alignment
Especially since they didn’t even say anything important (lol)


Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that, I don’t like the reasoning. It’s obviously not reliable and Eyes writing so much about it feels just like a possible attempt to gain town-creed.
It just really doesn't make sense to me

[ejjinami]

VOTE: eyes

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Eyes

wait, didn't you say that eyes is usually scummy?

[ejjinami]

did we catch mafia by page 5 or do I need to work here

What do you think?
and who do you think is scum?

[ejjinami]

actually, same question goes to @maadneet

[ejjinami]

Lawliett seemed to want to pretend to be a newbie at the beginnin

g, so I REALLY wouldn’t be surprised if they did that regardless of alignment

And that is exactly my point. As a newbie I wouldn't be taking risks if I rolled scum. Check my scum games (I have 2 finished scum games) and you would see I was more reserved in my posting and

more concerned about my image.

Heh xD then I was right to SR you for that
But back to the point, it doesn’t work like that. I agree that a newb!scum should be more likely to avoid talking about stuff like that altogether, but this doesn’t apply to someone who is just pretending to be a newb.
The whole point of pretending to be a newb is to be strongly town-read for stuff that’s easy to fake. They are NOT a newb though, so even if scum, they obviously wouldn’t make the same fcking mistakes as scum!newbies do… You can’t expect them to start lurking, hesitate on everything, etc.

I don’t think I should have needed to explain that and even though I don’t know you, I really doubt you wouldn’t have been able to figure that out on your own.
From my pov, it looks like for some stupid reason you just don’t want to back down. This and the previous arguments obviously don’t make sense

Tbh rn it’s just making me confused. Can you tell me why are you doing that?

[ejjinami]

ego

maybe not looking in this game for a while

hey, can you explain the read on ofr? I’m still waiting for it, lol :/

[ejjinami]

did we catch mafia by page 5 or do I need to work here

What do you think?
and who do you think is scum?

Dont you think its fairly obvious from my post that you quoted that my reply to both is null?

Tbh, only after you’ve said it

[ejjinami]

actually,
VOTE: flubb

Makes quick read flips very telling I would think

can you do sth more useful than that?

Not really

This is also a dumb vote

Then why are you even playing tbh
Can someone tell me if it’s normal for Flubb to be like that?

[ejjinami]

Saud should stay out of the bunker as either alignment

wHy?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Temporal

[ejjinami]

UNVOTE:
Sorry for the inactivity, ironically, I tend not to have a lot of free during holidays
catching up now
it may take some time because I'm doing a few things at the same time, but I'll get there

[ejjinami]

a few prodge posts

169 looks really bad.

What exactly was that about

.

Up to this point Orfhz hasn't posted anything other that a basically naked vote and calling out someones alt.

Originally you had an issue with my vote on Orfhz because it was naked, or lazy as you say, but you never question any of the naked votes before mine including Orhfz.
The second part is you're voting Flubber for what I can only assume to gain more pressure but question yet another vote on Orfz who as I said, hasn't posted anything of relevance.

What is it about that particular slot you feel the need to try and instantly stop any focus there? Are they town for you, and were they at this point?

Honestly, I don’t even remember why I voted him back then.
And I don’t think it even matters at this point
I could scroll back to it and try to figure it out once more, but the answer prob wouldn’t be all that impressive

Or were you asking about ofr? A lot of people were voting him in a way that didn’t look like pure RvS and none of them actually wanted to explain why, which is why I asked.
Same as before, there isn’t much meaning to it

What Fumiki posted was town motivated.
If you think that's scum trying to go for that look sure, but the post itself is far from worthless (@Ejj this part).

agree to disagree

It was more like my reasons for soft-defending eyes were wrong.

The reasoning is stupid, but Roster and eyes are most probably never SvS here

Who is this maad people tell me hes scum all the time

And this “joke” feels absolutely awful
I'm tempted t vote, but I think I should catch up first

[ejjinami]

I'm willing to vote awestfie, her ISO looks so bad it's horrible

pffffffft xD

[ejjinami]

(I haven't read that far yet, ignore me
but the post was written in such a funnily stupid way... no way I could have ignored that)

[ejjinami]

xD

[ejjinami]

fuck

@Mod

V/La till tomorrow evening
For some unknown reason my phone’s IP got banned again, so all of the posts I’m writing on mobile are being blocked as “spam” and I won’t have access to WiFi till Friday/saturday. I can still read, but I just can’t post. I asked a friend to turn a hotspot on fn, but doing that all the time is obviously not an option, so I’ll be very unlikely to post before the weekend.
Sorry

Anyway, I haven’t caught up fully, but I’ve read like 60-70% of it? I have a catchup ready on the PC, but for obvious reasons I can’t post it now.
In short
Roster is townie
Eyes prob as well
I like some of fumuki’s posts for really stupid reasons
And there are a bunch of people who’re obviously not SvS
Honestly, I feel more confident in reading the interactions than players’ alignments rn, which prob isn’t a good sign.
I also need to check TL’s town games, because besides his awful logic, some of his posts are just tonally awful and irdk if I should just let it slip or not. I prob won’t anyway, but taking a peek won’t hurt anyone.
I also don’t like saudedude, but I feel my reasons for SRing him might not be all that good. Some of his posts were tonally awful as well and there was a post that felt like SvS with someone, but I can’t remember who it was rn….

Again, sorry for all of that.
I’ll try to post as soon as I can.

[ejjinami]

forgot to mention, I WILL be able to post normally later on.
idk when will my phone's IP change again, but I WILL have access to WiFi on a regular basis soon, so don't replace me, please

[ejjinami]

I’m here, sorry, it took way long
Honestly, I’m not caught up fully yet. I was supposed to do it, but trying to do stuff then I’m not even able to play is incredibly demotivating.
Anyway, everything should be ok now.

[ejjinami]

Btw, some of my posts about fumuki don’t match my previous read on her
I don’t think I can explain it rn though. It’s stupid and unrelated to the game.
I won’t reveal my current read on her rn, maybe later.

[ejjinami]

Here's a read list as D1 is starting to feel very slow...

[Town]

High Risk Gamble

(town wants to be like High Risk Gamble)

rosterfoster

(a good townie, with a modest amount of info)

ejjinami

(trying too hard to be scum (and even claimed scum), so TR)

ofrhz

(seems like ofrhz)

maadneet

(neutral, a little scummy but RF/Maad feels TvT)

Fumuki

(not worth reading)

Flubbernugget

(tries to be concise and towny... 279 is a bad post)

Saudade

(your ISO is dry of info)

awestfie

(playing for the wrong team. The self-RVS vote makes this even more apparent)

Eyes without a face[/color

]

(you seriously counterclaimed a scum PR?!)

[Scum]

I hate the omgus.

TL, how can Elijami be town for claiming scum but Eyes is scum for CC’ing?

The way you slice it, they're both scummy.

However, ejjinami's play strikes me as "no sane scum is actually that scummy". Almost Jestery even, except there are no Jesters here. 22 is a good example. I'm assuming she's town who's hoping people call her bluff.

Eyes strikes me as a Goon who wants people to vote Eyes instead of the actual bomb (who is probably a deepwolf tbh)

Motivational-wise HRG is potentially a deepwolf, but I'm not voting my top read. There's a difference between a high risk gamble and a foolhardy undertaking.

RF feels less likely to be a deepwolf. The meta read feels like too much effort for scum.

The scum team:
1. Bomb, who is

totally safe

, cuz he’s deepwolfing
2. Goon
3. Goon
Goon says: “I’ll protect you bomb! KILL ME INSTEAD OF HIM! I’m scum!!!“
Bomb:

Spoiler:

The reasoning makes no sense. Is it a mistake or do you want to elaborate on it?
And do you actually want to act based on those reads or was it sth you said just to answer the question?

If it's the game I'm thinking about, I'm going to trust roster's read for now.

VOTE: Eyes without a face

...

hmmmm, do you have any alts?

Your join date is really old, so I thought this was your main. I checked it out and it seems that you were inactive for around 10 or 9 years.

How could you know what game roster is talking about if that`s the case? I don`t like to do this, and if you absolutely refuse it`s fine, but do you go as another identity?

Because it has become a really important detail for my read on you.

You know, I find it highly doubtful that by post 128 you’d have gotten a good enough read on maad to ABSOLUTELY need to know his main.
It feels like a bluff to either look townie or trick him into revealing his main. Considering the stuff you wrote later, I’m not so confident in it being scum-indicative and I don’t mean to offend you or anything, but please avoid doing stuff like that in the future, because it’s freaking obvious.

[ejjinami]

the colors in 289 were pretty btw

[ejjinami]

UNVOTE:

Checked Roster games and...

I don`t know.

I`m not as sure in Roster anymore

This might be better

VOTE: Flubb

Let me mull over...

But if I ignore my quick, unreliable, not-enough sized meta, Roster really seems scum here...

Hm

Who to go for, Flubb or Roster?

Actually, fumuki’s sudden change of opinion about roster might be townie.
It makes sense

And them lurking makes sense as well

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Based on 440 Eyes should never be scum with TL.
This is also a very good post in general

[ejjinami]

Fumuki seems to be putting in a lot of effort. This is USUALLY town indicative and I feel her high WIM might be townie here, but let’s see how long it lasts.
Fun fact, Fumuki said that “she tends to put a lot of effort in looking townie” as either alignment and her ratio of interacting with townie / scummy players is perfect here. She’s SRing a lot of weaker players (flub / awe, TL), TRing some (reasonably), SRing a stronger player (HRG) for “reasons” and doesn’t seem to want to either drop it, wait with it nor act based on it anytime soon. The back and forth with HRG might possibly be just for towncreed.
And tbh I find her SRing HRG for his “tone” kinda weird.

The progression on Flubb’s wagon prob makes him town btw. The wagon started off and grew to L-2 quickly and then it just stayed like that for some time and no one seemed interested in changing it. I mean, the most important thing that was going on was the back and forth between fumuki and HRG (and no one seemed interested in switching to him either). No one also seemed interested in interacting with fumuki about her reads, despite it being the most obvious and easiest way to change the wagon. (she seemed interested in everything around and didn’t seem to have any strong reasons to lynch elsewhere, so it should have been p easy to distract her and give Flubb some time to town it up)
Flubb being scum would prob work only if the whole team was lurking/inactive. It’s not impossible, but I’d rather not lynch him today.

[ejjinami]

If they're worried that they might be a deepwolf, then they're town-read is shit.

If they're worried that they might be a deepwolf, then

their

* town-read is shit.

You're pointing things out as if we're living in a perfect world and as if things are going to happen a certain way. If I town-read someone, I don't worry about them being a deepwolf because that would make my town-read weak. You can't town-read someone and also think they're a deepwolf at the same time. This is why this discussion is useless.

If you think I'm scum because I disagree of your shit logic, then that's fine. I don't really care. It doesn't change the fact that focusing on a deepwolf is a complete waste of time.

I really like those posts

Also if anyone thinks I`m scum read Mini Normal 2070, and compare with Micro 840.

My scum play vs town play.

The day that I make a full case on someone as scum, is the day when pigs begin to fly.

As scum you just push simple reasons because it`s easier even to convince people that way. In Mini Normal 2070, there was a wagon in my scumbuddy and instead of casing someone seriously I just began to talk about how Vork was scummy without much diligence.

I`m never scum here awe, and all my past games are a proof of it.

BUMP
For later
I actually want to check it out
Maybe not exactly those 2 games though

[ejjinami]

because if it`s obvious to you that as long as we don`t recruit mafia to the hood it`s a very town sided setup, it should be obvious as well that deepwolves are important.

No shit. What does this have to do with deepwolf? If the neighborhood town-reads someone, they should add them to the neighborhood. If they're worried that they might be a deepwolf, then they're town-read is shit. I don't understand how you're having such a hard time grasping that.

VOTE: Fumuki

Them overdoing things, on top of the obvious comments they just spit out makes me feel like they're just throwing out words in an attempt to look useful. It doesn't feel natural. Their read on Flubbernugget in 323 is weak.

Regardless of the issue, I don't think this warrants a vote on Fumuki at all. You say potayto, he says potahto. That's all.

I think I'm starting to like my bottom 3 reads for a scum team. No I just need to go check if they had any significant interactions with each other.

Eyes seems relaxed. If he’s scum, it probably means that both of his scummates were “safe” at the moment. I don’t really feel he’s scum rn though.
Besides, Eyes’s absolute confidence in Fumuki being town is interesting. Seems sincere tbh
I don’t think Eyes is the type to have the guts to townread a scummate so strongly while ignoring all other active players in the game. So I think if either Fumuki or Eyes ever flip scum, the other one should be town. TvT is possible as well

Lets pretend a deepwolf conversation never happened. Who is scum then?

Man, I'm tempted to move you up a notch for this alone.

Another townie post

[ejjinami]

She’s SRing a lot of weaker players (flub / awe, TL)

Why am I in this list?

Reported.

if town, it wouldn't be difficult to ML you imo

[ejjinami]

and you definitely don't seem like the type to be able to win against fumuki in a 1v1 so early in the game
no offense

P.edit: ninjaed, lol

[ejjinami]

I don`t think that anyone town reading HRG or Roster is actually doing it for the right reasons, even if they are town.

Then I would rather have the hood either Ofrhz or Ejji I think, although I need to see if this much floating is normal for town!Ofrhz.

You might know OFR, but you absolutely don’t know me, so let me tell you that even if scum, I would be absolutely able to fake all of the stuff I did at daystart. You even said sth like that at the beginning, so I find it highly unlikely that you would have just forgotten about it now.
There's also no way you could have had any reasons to TR me other than the ones based on my early posts, because I was inactive for more than half of the day, so why the heck would you ever say that I should be added to the bunker?

That post makes no sense to me no matter how I look at it. Elaborate on it please. And elaborate on the read on ofr as well
I remember nothing from the stuff he posted tbh

I feel that Fumuki has been increasing in me not being trustworthy ever since they feel like they know who I am.
The term they're not trustworthy suggests I'm more likely scum than not from Fumuki which makes me concerned and feel that the Flubber read was a front or a prep for later game?

Can you use a bit simpler terms to explain your reds please?
Or like, change stuff like: “Fumuki has been increasing in me being trustworthy” to sth different? Possibly shorter?
Explaining the situation and what your words mean took more than half of the post and no offense, but the only thing it did was make the post more confusing.

If I understood it correctly, you said that: “You think fumuki is suspecting you more and more because she thinks she knows your main. This worries you and makes you feel that her SR on Flubb was meant to serve her some purpose later”
???
Why exactly does this concern you?
How exactly are her reads on you and on flubb are connected?
That post doesn’t make much sense to me either

[ejjinami]

Eyes seems anything but relaxed to me. Being certain someone is town at this point is kind of a scumread than a townread is it?
I disagree with what you've said here about eyes : (

confident tone, seems happy to TR fumuki, even jokes(?) about it
tbh eyes doesn't seem very experienced to me and tone is one of the most difficult things to fake when playing scum, so I think the read is likely to be genuine

And he hasn't played with fumuki before, so there's literally no reason for him to TR her so strongly as scum
of course, wifom and stuff, but I just don't feel he's doing that

[ejjinami]

Actually, I don’t think I can say I like Awe after all
I thought her read on fumuki was good at first, but I really don’t like how she’s putting so much effort into proving fumuki wrong and completely ignoring everything else.
Possibly just frozen, tunneling scum.

Did you guys know that if f(x,y) is differentiable therefore all of its partial derivatives are continuous ?

Fun fact, sudedude started shitposting just when people stopped pushing flubb and awe, and Fumuki started SRing eachother. He didn’t seem to care about them before either, but seemed to have stopped caring about anything when it happened.
It could be a coincidence and tbh I’m not even quite sure how to read it, but I just wanted to bump it here so that I don’t forget about it later

oh ma gawd deadline is in 10 daysssssssssssss

this is such an easy win boys

Besides, those posts are weird
You were only SRing Eyes before, right? And a wagon on him isn’t forming, so I find it hard to believe that the posts above would have been sincere. Possibly a lamist lie

why do you always get lynched flubber

If SvS this is the absolute worst case of ignorance and apathy I’ve seen for a long time.
There was a big wagon on flubber at the time and saudedude was p much ignoring it till now.
Him mentioning it only now, JUST AFTER shitposting heavily and while Flubb was still in danger of being lynched feels extremely weird as SvS. More likely SvT if anything imo. Possibly TvT, though I wouldn’t say it matches my reads all that much.

[ejjinami]

Also @HRG, if you think there would not be a supposedly scum motivation for this, you`re wrong, because it`s something even I do as scum. You go for a low hanging fruit, let a wagon go through, and if it ever flips town, you blame everyone in the wagon in day 2 and try to mislynch here.

I actually like that post

I'm ignoring you for the rest of the game. You're actually not pretending, that's a yikes.

Does that mean your read on fumuki has changed?

[ejjinami]

I love it when a player comes replacing in/out of absense and misrepresents everything I say

Go away pal, you're off balance and you've missed the entire pacing of the game

good, then convince me I'm reading the posts wrong
I've read everything before the stuff I commented on, so me being inactive doesn't matter.

[ejjinami]

You're reading them wrong.

which and why

I love it when a player comes replacing in/out of absense and misrepresents everything I say

Go away pal, you're off balance and you've missed the entire pacing of the game

good, then convince me I'm reading the posts wrong
I've read everything before the stuff I commented on, so me being inactive doesn't matter.

do I look like the kind of player to do that

do I look like I care about that?

[ejjinami]

which and why

All of them and because eyes is mafia.

I don't think eyes is mafia tbh

[ejjinami]

did he scumslip or sth

[ejjinami]

I haven't actually read the last 8-9-ish pages yet

[ejjinami]

LOL, there really is a wagon in him
can someone explain what happened?

No we've just read the game as it is and had time to think about it for a period of a (week?) while you just schemed it in 30 minutes and in your arrogance made your infallible conclusions

you know, if you think I wrote all of that in 30 minutes, it means you aren't reading my posts either

are you talking about eyes or you rn? and if it's about you, I still don't see how it matters

[ejjinami]

LOL, there really is a wagon in him
can someone explain what happened?

No we've just read the game as it is and had time to think about it for a period of a (week?) while you just schemed it in 30 minutes and in your arrogance made your infallible conclusions

you know, if you think I wrote all of that in 30 minutes, it means you aren't reading my posts either

are you talking about eyes or you rn? and if it's about you, I still don't see how it matters

[ejjinami]

fuck, the ewpop got removed

I wanted to change [you] to [yourself]

(nvm)

[ejjinami]

can someone explain what happened?

He got a mafia role PM.

sure, reasons please

[ejjinami]

Really, if he did scum-slip or sth, quote the post
if he did sth scummy, quote the post
I can read it before I read the other 9-ish pages, and it might actually help if I'm to talk with people rn
I am unironically going to ignore both of you if it goes on like that

[ejjinami]

ok, I'll read the game

and I can't actually catch up without writing a catchup... I tried in multiple games before, because it takes a lot of time, but I find myself unable to seriously read the game without taking notes/asking questions. It's just a thing for me, I guess.

[ejjinami]

and yeah, mod shit-posting is surprisingly fun to read

:thumbs_up:

[ejjinami]

sigh, the game might be progressing a bit too quickly for me, caught up to page 34
I was going to ask people not to post that much so that it can end, but on second thought it might have been stupid after all

[ejjinami]

Someone go full town leader, conftown themselves and I`ll sheep you

I`m clearly not suited for the role. Instead of ignoring/completely discrediting Awe I actually tried to talk with her and this is the shit it turned into.

I tried to listen to what Flubb had to say instead of tunneling him and making this day over as soon as possible, and this is the shit it turned into.

Then like...

I`m not in the mood to do anything at all anymore. I`ll try to town read someone and sheep.

The lack of motivation feels townie.

HRG is votable in my eyes but it's too early to lynch our townreads.

The deepwolf discussion is useful since it informs later Days.

and awest's vote on Fumuki is just forced.

This still feels like a bit too much though. TL reading people based on the deepwolf theory has clearly started because of Fumuki’s question and there’s no way TL could have been used to doing that before. And here (and in his other post) it feels like he wants to use it as much as possible, which is just off to me.
I mean, he might have liked the theory and there’s nothing wrong with it, but this isn’t his first game here and he MUST HAVE his own playstyle and his own way of reading people. Even if he sincerely believes that finding deepwolves is the right way to go, him mentioning it in every other post feels unnatural.

VOTE: awestfie

I have decided.

You are almost caught scum awest.

And the tone here is terrible
Either incredibly clumsy or just fake.

[ejjinami]

Friendly reminder that I'm voting scum(eyes) and you should sheep

You almost sound like you're convinced this is true.

It’s shade
And it feels townie, lol.
I mean, I’m having a hard time imagining scum reacting to an unexplained SR on them with sth like that. It makes so much more sense if from eyes’s pov “being convinced of them being scum”

was sth saude was doing wrong

.

It doesn’t make much sense as SvS.
And it coming from SvT (with eyes being scum and saude being town) feels ridiculous imo. It’s almost as if scum!eyes was complimenting town!saude for SRing him, which, unless planned or made with the intention of making bad interactions, I don’t think is all that likely to happen.

[ejjinami]

Ok I'm getting why people are scum reading eyes now

I’m assuming you’re talking about the post I quoted above
Why do you think it’s scummy?

It might be that Saudade xor Eyes is scum

wHy?

[ejjinami]

HRG is votable in my eyes but it's too early to lynch our townreads.

The deepwolf discussion is useful since it informs later Days.

and awest's vote on Fumuki is just forced.

I'm not sure what scum Lich gets to provoke another vote on him here?
Surely as scum he wouldn't want to risk me just jumping on board now.

I absolutely disagree with the reasoning. Lich is clearly trying to “implement the theories about deepwolves into his scumhunting methods”. He’s been doing it for a while and he’s been saying that you could be a deepwolf since fumuki first asked him about it.

No offense, but fair chances are that he has absolutely no idea or any what he’s doing, so him not backing off shouldn’t be associated with “being brave” imo.
If scum, he could be easily saying all of that just for towncreed or just because he really believes that he should be acting townie and “all townies should follow the plan/idea”. I don’t think it’s townie.

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Eyes without a face

I am happy with this vote. Saudade pings town to me now with HRG's case in 614.

This strongly feels like he voted just to save his own ass
He was voting awe before, so saude “being town” shouldn’t be a reason to change his vote
Has TL elaborated on the vote yet? If not, do it, please

VOTE: Eyes without a face

I am happy with this vote. Saudade pings town to me now with HRG's case in 614.

So it's not like I'm the only counterwagon to yours or anything like that. Right?

Actually, that’s exactly what I just said, but it feels like shade :/

Very null, all the things they're doing scummy also are done as town

It feels like you’re just throwing empty words around. wHaT things were you talking about?

[ejjinami]

This game is dead.

VOTE: TL

Townie vote
Also, the game dying just when eyes’s wagon started means that the mafia are either bussing, or he’s just town.

That vote scumpings me a little, though the game

is

stagnating.

Not self-voting to get the game going btw.

Actually, can you explain why exactly did you think about self-voting to progress the game? and why didn’t you do that?
I’ll give you a cookie and maybe reconsider my read depending on the answer.

[ejjinami]

That vote scumpings me a little, though the game

is

stagnating.

Not self-voting to get the game going btw.

This is a fake dumping, I'm 90% sure

VOTE: milk

Still think bomb reads are kinda dumb rn

Cool, you can think that. It doesn't change that I think TL us the best lynch. Fairly scummy and survivalistic posting, and actual resistance to the lynch without any real reason for the resistance

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TL

This game has no spark and I'd rather see a lynch than do what we're currently doing. I am A-OK with lynching Eyes too.

there are other ways to ignite the game state besides lynching players

Give me your ways then, Saudade.

Look for deepwolves?

That’s cute

VOTE: Themilkcartonkid

This was the Maad slot too.
His only views since replacing are TL scum without reasoning or attempt to convince and that scum are all voting Eyes.
He's just following where most popular is right now.

Although this suggests he could be scum with Eyes, I'm not sold on it.
Eyes just looks like a hard push for town, but if it comes to it I'm favouring lynching Eyes over TL.

Anyone who doesn't think that Milk is a viable lynch today regardless to if he's lynched or not, explain one town thing that slot has done all game.

The vote change feels townie
I absolutely disagree with lynching eyes over TL though

[ejjinami]

I could be wrong tho lets see what he has to say in his defense

I don't see a case for me to defend. We are blindly lynching someone and it could very well be me.
Someone told me self-voting is bad play regardless. Otherwise I would have voted myself to help you all see the light. My fear is I will always be a lynch candidate for as long as I'm alive and people are even more inclined to hunt for my partners without even seeing my flip. That's BAD PLAY!

(Written just after a few shitposts.)
Nothing in that post actually makes sense to me
Saying that by self-voting you would be helping the other players “see the light” is essentially a scum-claim and even as a joke it feels disgusting. It doesn’t even feel like a “joke” though, which I don’t know what to think about.
Who exactly was reading you based on pre-flip associations and is so “BAD”?

This post feels like you just wrote a bunch of random bullshit without actually thinking or reading the game. Elaborate on it.

I mean, it's not bad for scum. It gives them room to flip their reads on whomever they like upon my flip. It's bad for town because once I flip green they can't just say "Oops. Wrong lynch but X is still scum". Instead they maybe forced to drop a genuine scum read on someone who is indeed scum just because they already decided they were of the same alignment I am.

Again, who are you talking about?
I’ll eat my own hat if the stuff you wrote is actually related to the game. It feels like you’re just repeating sth someone said for whatever reason and I don’t see the freaking point of doing that.

Fun idea: At the beginning of the game you said that you’re much more serious and concerned about your image as scum. Now it feels like you’re just trying to shitpost, possibly to appear like you’re not concerned about your lynch.
Convince me otherwise.

[ejjinami]

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What are your reads eyes?

Im curious about your read on saudade in particular

Saudi Arabia is one of those people I'd auto-SR like Dr Worm and such players. I don't think it funny to do gimmicks and talk nonsense all the time. Sometimes they provide random reads but nothing to discuss. When they do engage they are asking others such silly questions (like "what does this mean?" & "why do you think that?") which makes them appear like they're asking questions when they really aren't.

In short, I have no qualms voting S.A. (whom I am intentionally misspelling as Saudi Arabia in revenge for his treatment to my name) but I can't say I gave a read on him one way or another with confidence.

Ok, the tone and the way he interacted with someone who has been SRing him the whole game makes me thing he might really just not give a shit.

I also feel like eyes hasn't been responding to his wagon like he did in 9:12

in 9:12 (where he was town), he reacted violently to his mislynch there and started calling some people on his wagon dumb and bad at mafia etc etc.

Basically I feel like his reaction to being wagoned here doesn't have the same ~frustration~ compared to him being wagoned in 9:12

Do you think it’s scum indicative?

Arent you a bit enthusiastic that im running a counter wagon to yours huh

I absolutely love that reaction

[ejjinami]

UNVOTE:

sigh

[ejjinami]

I still need some time to catch up
and I'd actually want to talk to someone before the day ends
but my vote is mentally there

[ejjinami]

I take back what I said about awe being a weak player
I still don’t think they’re all that townie though


And I still fucking hate milk
I’d throw a shitty pun, but oh well

Yeah, I tried reading the whole game to get caught up and it's a snoozefest. I could see eyes being scum, but like I said, everything that is scummy about them is just as often done by town. TL is much more scummy. They're too nice. They're trying to be too helpful. I do hard townread awestfie and I'm more feeling saudade

I agree with the read and I think TL’s attitude should be more likely to come from scum than eyes, but I also hate a lot of milk’s posts and him agreeing with me so much makes me nervous.
Idk if he would be bussing that hard as scum
He might, but I think it’s highly likely that I’m also wrong in my reads somewhere

[ejjinami]

[roster, fumuki/flavor]

[saudade]

[eyes, flubb]

[HRG, ofr, awes]

[]

[temporal, milk]

where I'm at rn
funnily, I have too many TRs, am tinfoiling on nearly all of them, but at the same time I'm confident in my SRs, yet I think they don't work well as a team
idk if I'm just fcking lost or what

but I'm strongly SRing both TL and milk
milk for the stuff I said in one of my previous posts
and TL for the exact same reasons milk mentioned in his posts, which again, is driving me nuts
I don't like a lot of TL's posts and I really don't like his vote on Eyes
all of his posts regarding that feel like he's just trying to save his own ass, which I REALLY don't feel he should be doing as town
and he wrote a few posts, which were tonally awful

[ejjinami]

VOTE: ejjinami

I am fairly sure you are scum with Awest.

You defend her but refuse to townread her.

where exactly was I defending her?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: ejjinami

I am fairly sure you are scum with Awest.

You defend her but refuse to townread her.

where exactly was I defending her?

1051 with a side of 1041, I think.

1040 is a subtle shade of awest so the noncommitalness really hits me hard.

I guess you could read it that way, lol
1051 is NAI. I said that awe is a bad player, which was very clearly wrong, so I corrected myself. Sure, you could debate if I’d do it more likely as SvS, TvT, or whatever, but honestly, what’s the point.
1041 is fair.
And how exactly is 1040 noncommitalness.

I’d be glad if you answered my questions btw, especially those about your votes. You answered some of them and SR me for it later, so it’s p clear that you’ve already read them.
And actually, comment on my read on you please. 1036 1040 1052

[ejjinami]

@Ejji: I am not sure I want to go back and look for what exactly triggered me to say this, but -generally- I think it's bad to say things like "this is SvS" before one of the two is flipped. Once flipped (if town) you have basically argued against your case on the other.

It's bad because it provides scum an easy way to vote multiple townies in a row, not because it's a bad way to read them. I am (usually) careful with the way I do that and (for the most part) I do wait with acting on the read till after I see a flip.
Me posting stuff like that rn is mostly just so that I don't forget about it later, because I find finding interactions more difficult later on.

Of course, you will see me reading people pre-flip based on that sometimes, like, if multiple people I think are scummy don't feel like SvS with someone or sth like that, but if you don't like it, please address the individual reads instead of the whole method. I often find it easier to correctly read players that way, especially those who can't be tone-read, so I'm not really tempted to stop it.

[ejjinami]

Ok, I'll look at it when I come back home
gtg rn

[ejjinami]

@Ejji: I am not sure I want to go back and look for what exactly triggered me to say this, but -generally- I think it's bad to say things like "this is SvS" before one of the two is flipped. Once flipped (if town) you have basically argued against your case on the other.

Spoiler:

It's bad because it provides scum an easy way to vote multiple townies in a row, not because it's a bad way to read them. I am (usually) careful with the way I do that and (for the most part) I do wait with acting on the read till after I see a flip.
Me posting stuff like that rn is mostly just so that I don't forget about it later, because I find finding interactions more difficult later on.

Of course, you will see me reading people pre-flip based on that sometimes, like, if multiple people I think are scummy don't feel like SvS with someone or sth like that, but if you don't like it, please address the individual reads instead of the whole method. I often find it easier to correctly read players that way, especially those who can't be tone-read, so I'm not really tempted to stop it.

OOF, actually, now that I think of it, this didn’t have to be addressed to me in a way that “I’m reading people wrong”……………. I tend to read people using interactions, so I took the post as “personal advice” and somehow managed to forget that I asked eyes a question related to that.
I think I misunderstood the answer completely and if so, I still want an answer to my question.
Who exactly were you talking about in post 698?
If it wasn’t me (and it couldn’t have been me), it still smells like bullshit.

[ejjinami]

The vote in 621 needs 611 for context. I townread Saudade so naturally Eyes was scum.

It might be that Saudade xor Eyes is scum

Why did you think there was scum among them? And you still haven’t elaborated on the read on awe
You were heavily SRing her before, so why exactly did you switch?

Don't see any other questions posed at me.

VOTE: ejjinami

I am fairly sure you are scum with Awest.

You defend her but refuse to townread her.

where exactly was I defending her?

1051 with a side of 1041, I think.

1040 is a subtle shade of awest so the noncommitalness really hits me hard.

I guess you could read it that way, lol
1051 is NAI. I said that awe is a bad player, which was very clearly wrong, so I corrected myself. Sure, you could debate if I’d do it more likely as SvS, TvT, or whatever, but honestly, what’s the point.
1041 is fair.
And how exactly is 1040 noncommitalness?

Comment on that, please

[ejjinami]

[roster, fumuki/flavor]
[saudade]
[eyes, flubb]
[HRG, ofr, awes]
[]
[temporal, milk]

How you gonna have someone who's done nothing but be reactive this entire game higher than me?

You guys are really starting to upset me.

Always at your service
Fun fact, I have no idea who you’re talking about, but I’m p sure that regardless of who it is, the answer will still be the same.
Maybe start considering that you don’t actually feel like the type who can’t fake their tone or make a few “sensible” reads. And there are some people who do feel that way
In 99% of cases that would actually be the answer you’re looking for

[ejjinami]

What is this sr on awest? Also, totally did not see that post from eyes where they threatened to self vote... that's pretty scummy...

This post makes me want to vote youuu

Yeah... I realize that if tl flips town I'm the next lynch and I dont know how to fight that so I'm just praying I'm right and tl flips scum

do you have anyone other than TL you'd like to lynch?
I'm actually really interested in seeing your reads in general
Possibly explained ones

[ejjinami]

You're the bad player if you don't know who I'm talking about. No offense, though.

/shrug

Jingle, turn this game into popcorn mafia and give me a gun. I'll shoot Eyes right in the face.

why eves over TL?

[ejjinami]

you're not making this easy
ok, I'll look it up later

[ejjinami]

Eyes' most recent 3 posts are more empty than my life.

I actually agree with that. I don’t think it has to be scum-indicative though

IDK there is some content to them. I just don’t feel he’s trying so hard to set up mislynches if he gets lynched.

Sure, but there was very little content in them.

I agree, he's not trying hard to set up mislynches, but he's also not trying hard to do anything other than react to other people. Effort isn't AI, but if all you're going to do is be reactive, I'm going to vote you 10 out of 10 times.

Lack of effort when they’re getting lynched is absolutely AI imo.

[ejjinami]

If you believe effort is AI, then I don't know what to tell you. If you think a town player is going to do nothing but be reactive, I don't know what to tell you.

Eyes has done next-to-nothing that was proactive and instead has just been playing incredibly defensive. He's playing to not lose instead of playing to win.

again, it depends on the player
and it depends on the situation
there are no scum or town-tells that work for everyone and because of the stuff I said, I think this one shouldn't work here

besides, I think you're exaggerating it a bit
I didn't get the feeling that he was focusing on defending himself here
more like, he doesn't give a shit in general, which I'm still thinking about, but I don't think is always scum-indicative
we can agree to disagree though

[ejjinami]

OOF, that actually hurt a bit
I'm sorry if I misunderstood your reasons for SRing him
I don't have anything to say here. I'm going to try to read the rest of the pages today anyway, so if that's really the main issue, I'll just post later.

[ejjinami]

Actually, I absolutely hate saying that, but awe has a point
Eyes’s latest posts are just freaking terrible and explaining it with being relaxed doesn’t really cut it
It’s starting to feel more and more like he’s just frozen :c

[ejjinami]

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What are your reads eyes?

Im curious about your read on saudade in particular

Saudi Arabia is one of those people I'd auto-SR like Dr Worm and such players. I don't think it funny to do gimmicks and talk nonsense all the time. Sometimes they provide random reads but nothing to discuss. When they do engage they are asking others such silly questions (like "what does this mean?" & "why do you think that?") which makes them appear like they're asking questions when they really aren't.

In short, I have no qualms voting S.A. (whom I am intentionally misspelling as Saudi Arabia in revenge for his treatment to my name) but I can't say I gave a read on him one way or another with confidence.

I'll SaudiArabia your face

also why do you only reply to your wagon and dont scumhunt
like if you ever talk, which is not often
you talk about how YOU
are being MISTREATED
by this AWFUL
TOWN
=(

okay I have to state that 722 is an excellent case against eyes

Saudade is the townie we need

Yeah, you both can back up that claim??

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=79467&user_select[]=32169

That’s shade.

[ejjinami]

just ISO yourself..

I just did that. That link in my response is my ISO. Now go and quote the posts that were only reactive and do the math yourself. Like I could argue that you're only talking to me when I talk to you (which is true, but a nonsense reason to bring up anyway). Otherwise you ask people silly questions and post silly commentary.

Would you rather I posted a mathematical theory? Or quote a random post and ask "who's this directed at?" Would that be proactive posting to you?

^^^See? I'm asking questions now. If you ignore them you'res scum. If you answer them you're being proactive. Pick your own poison.

Same here + it feels like he’s making fun of saude’s SR, which feels genuinely disgusting
And I absolutely hate the last part
It doesn’t even feel like shitposting anymore
Him asking for “proof” and just shitting on the read makes me feel like he just doesn’t know what to do, which no matter how I think, doesn’t feel townie

[ejjinami]

what's the VC?

[ejjinami]

I actually want him to respond to the last part

[ejjinami]

TemporalLich (3): Flubbernugget, maadneet, rosterfoster
Eyes without a face (3): Saudade, ofrhz, awestfie
themilkcartonkid (1): High Risk Gamble,
ejjinami (1): Flavor Leaf,
awestfie (1): TemporalLich
High Risk Gamble (0):
Flubbernugget (0):
Flavor Leaf (0):
rosterfoster (0):
ofrhz (0):
Saudade (0):

Not Voting (2): ejjinami, Eyes without a face

[ejjinami]

VOTE: eyes

[ejjinami]

L-2

[ejjinami]

it's not bad news

[ejjinami]

and don't try to quickhammer, I said I still want to talk with him

[ejjinami]

[ejjinami]

Don't shitpost, let eyes post whatever he wants to
I still want him to respond to my case

[ejjinami]

VOTE: awestfie

Even if you flip green I won't regret this.

First thing we agree on all game.. I think.

VOTE: awest

Why not saude? The last few posts heavily implied that you SRd him?

[ejjinami]

He's not going to respond to any case.

Don't insult him, that's not the right way to go about it

[ejjinami]

that's bullying, let him post and do his thing
he won't be able to respond normally if you keep doing that, don't fake the results

[ejjinami]

thank you

[ejjinami]

@roster why exactly did you switch to eyes?

[ejjinami]

Why can't you be SvS?

adn yeah, I was about to ask that

[ejjinami]

I said to not recruit roster guys...

):
sorry, I was dumb

[ejjinami]

both my recruit choices were mafia, lol...

I'll try to be a bit better next time

[ejjinami]

This was anti-climactic

[ejjinami]

Also, looking on his meta I doubt anyone would be able to say he was scum here. I guess if someone doesn't have a solid meta, it's really unreliable to try to read them out of it.

I learned that in this game I guess.

same ):

[ejjinami]

Fine. I hate you too, roster.

[ejjinami]

Oh, I'm ok with releasing the PT btw
besides me being totally wrong, there's nothing to read there anyway

[ejjinami]

Yet I was getting the fear when you kept calling Awestfie scum so something is right.

I did think Eyes was very obviously bussing at the end though too

yeah, I thought so too
his last vote was just simply weird
but /shrug
you won anyway

[ejjinami]

I WANT A REMATCH!!! D:<

[ejjinami]

Zzzzzzzzzzz

[ejjinami]

Ejjinami is immensely pocketable.

FUCK xd

but true, I guess
I could really feel myself getting pocketed by you multiple times during the game
gj

I also have some feeling that Elijami is the recruiter.

FUCK xD


and well, my reads were terrifyingly terrible.... :/ so I guess I deserve whatever was written there

[ejjinami]

there was no way I would have gotten killed though
I wasn't worried about it N1, more like... later when all obvtown players have died

I was writing a post near daystart, to warn flub to lynch you if any of us die that night... but I didn't make it, lol :/
jingle started the day before I got to post it

[ejjinami]

well, I didn't think crumbing was necessary anyway

ASSUMING SOMEONE HADN'T SCREWED UP IMMEDIATELY AFTER GETTING THE ROLE, we could have just asked the recruits to confirm us...

or quoted/paraphrased sth from the PT

sigh

[ejjinami]

...tbh I don't get where that's coming from
I honestly doubt that besides explaining myself less and posting less in general, I acted any different from how I normally do...
I did focus on TRing people more, but I tried to keep most of it to myself (or write it in the bunker, lol)
I strongly feel that what you were interpreting as "me being the recruiter" might have been just another part of my regular playstyle.

Me "overanalyzing stuff" and "trying to explain myself as well as I can" is normal
Me writing long, in-depth posts is normal as well
same with "noticing small details and tone-reading people/making theories based on it" (even though it isn't very accurate ): )

Obviously, I can be wrong... I feel I shouldn't be, but tbh can't be entirely sure about that either
You might have noticed sth I wasn't even aware of, so so gj regardless
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ejjinami]

The bomb fakeclaiming bunker stuff pinged me.

It’s not a 100% thing ofc but it seemed pretty likely, beyond the rest of your play.

hahaha, that's fair
I'm kinda curious if I'd have done that as a normal VT myself xD

You were too obvious with your looking for someone to town it up.

I was mostly addressing this part ^