Role Call I (Game Over)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hey guys

What’s shaking?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I like inactive and inventor.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Each role must be given to one player, and each player must get a role.

Didn’t realize that everyone must get role

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think timid and inactive should go to players who are lynch bait. Two of the towniest players should be neighbors.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My guts says Cheeky should get the IC role.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

As a general guideline for how we go about this:

Id propose that people that usually get killed off early due to great gamesolving skills get the low impact or negative utility roles, to balance effectiveness of scum nightkills. No doubt thisll result in quite some discussion, which is exactly what the doctor ordered.

the main interesting ones that dont appear that interesting is what well do with the passives. Miller, VT, useless person, etc.

I would like this idea more if the roles currently presented weren’t so underwhelming. I think scum are going to kill whoever is widely town read or fear the most regardless of how they’re distributed,

I think miller and vanilla should be given to universal town reads. They can essentially function as named townies and that’s pretty strong.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My guts says Cheeky should get the IC role.

Why?

Scum are gonna try to make quick work of whoever they feel they can push easily, and I don’t think we have the luxury to wait around for someone to be confirmed town in a game like this. I think giving it someone who is unlikely to be lynched or night killed is much more optimal. It could force scum to kill a potential endgame option earlier then they would like to.

I don’t see you as lynch bait and I don’t see you as a high priority night kill. What I can see however is a world in which scum may leave you alive because you’ve been pocketed or just pose no threat to them. You’re pretty solid as town though and I think scum don’t want to deal with a Cheeky that’s going to be taken out of the lynch pool late game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

HH town.

Their thought process around allocation of roles that you regurgitated a couple of posts later.

And you’ve lost me here. What about their thought process? Does it feel real to you? If so, please consider the head who said it and then tell me why you think it’s AI.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I bet LUV would love to be my neughbour

I’m terrible in neighborhoods.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Each role must be given to one player, and each player must get a role.

Didn’t realize that everyone must get role

Felt like a minor town slip

I think timid and inactive should go to players who are lynch bait. Two of the towniest players should be neighbors.

Turned my alarm back on

I can explain.

I think giving timid to those kind of players makes it harder for scum to push on them. I can easily see lynch bait proposing something poorly thought out and getting pushed for it. Inactive makes it so that way scum can’t try to suggest giving these kind of players roles they may mishandle or just not best suited for.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Ew, preflip associatives. Why do people do those? Especially day 1?

No one seems to see Vecna the same way as me huh. I wonder if I would read him differently with a different avatar. I hate that tv show.

No Beavis and Butthead slander shall prosper on my Mafiascum, they were a favorite.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@momo:

1- Why do you SR RC?
2- My point was "you can SR RC all you want, but getting him lynched w/o an explicit guilty is a pain in the arse", and I see no other investigative roles on the list top use on the slot.

Baezu's silence, the connections in between my other scum reads and him. Especially paired with his normal activity, both in games and around sites. It would be a really smart move for scum RC to declare that he's going to lurk day one.

Of my 3 SRs, I would probs lynch RC last. However, if any one of those two flip scum, the ties to RC become much stronger.

Either way, RC is very hard to read. The best use of the

inactive

role, imo, would be for someone like RC. If he is town, then great. He can help us scum hunt and the incentives to lynch a player like RC would be much lower if we make him inactive. That way town RC stays alive and helps us.

If he is scum, then he can't use any abilities.

Giving RC inactive is probably the easiest decision we have to make today.

This also works out perfectly because the HH hydra is hard to read. Day 5, we get a confirmed read. Just swapping those two would make your proposal better.

My fear is that I don’t want inactive given to someone who easily gets disengaged or is showing signs of disengagement. Granted I don’t think that would be the case for town RC, since he would just replace out, but I wanted to put this out there in case your proposal doesn’t get chosen.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I wish there was someone as good with mechanics as Vecna here because I want to give him neighbor.

Could you obvious town A50?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maybe I should go for motion detector.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV my guy, how did u write all of that in less than a minute.

Any chance I can buy your hands?

I don’t like catching up in real time so I just comment on what I want and then post it all in one go.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think miller and vanilla should be given to universal town reads. They can essentially function as named townies and that’s pretty strong.

That's all cool and dandy, but I would like to see you give your reads so I can have an idea of your provision linking theory to practice.

In due time. Wanna let the dust settle first.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think giving timid to those kind of players makes it harder for scum to push on them. I can easily see lynch bait proposing something poorly thought out and getting pushed for it. Inactive makes it so that way scum can’t try to suggest giving these kind of players roles they may mishandle or just not best suited for.

But you're looking at this from only one angle. Lynchbait will always be lynchbait and your plan makes it more likely for them to make it to LyLo. Remember: Just because a player is lynchbaity doesn't mean they couldn't have rolled scum. Even more, if they are town taking them to LyLo is still risky because they could get lynched then.

We need to find equilibrium between handing our strong roles to strong town reads, strong players and keeping these strong TRs/players alive (so far I haven't found a proper formula but I'm working on it)

That’s fine. The longer the game goes on, the easier it’ll get to differentiate who is misunderstood but still actively trying to game solve from scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

because you talk about and justify your read on me like someone who feels caught for the wrong reasons, like you don't believe it but you believe the 'logic' is sound.

I don’t understand how you reached this conclusion?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could you obvious town A50?

I don't care about being "obvious" as much as I want to be "useful" town. That said, I think I have obv!towned already.

Then maybe you should lobby for something else other than neighbor. I think the likelihood of Nero’s alignment will become more apparent and clear as he posts.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

i think 236 essentially confirms that they're scum in the game

or scum outside of it

. that's the lynch today. again, idc where anything else goes as long as the inventor goes to town.

What does the bolded mean?

My fear is that I don’t want inactive given to someone who easily gets disengaged or is showing signs of disengagement.

Hmm.. why would this cause someone to become inactive? It just makes them a vanilla townie or a goon. Although, if your hunch is true, I doubt a goon would replace out.

Would you rather he gives you the silent treat (I'm not positive, but I think you don't like to play with Wisdom)

he should be trying to convince other people that I'm scum, not me.

I thought that was the purpose of his wall of colors. My primary issue with Momo is that I do not believe him when he says all of his scumreads were independent.

Knowing that you’re essentially a vanilla townie in a role madness game is demoralizing.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This is the second iteration. I made minor changes overall. I still haven't changed the stronger roles though.

Timid = Hidden Happiness (Shadoweh/MariaR hydra)
Vanilla = Iconeum
Inventor = popsofctown
Day 5 Innocent Child = Oversoul
Miller = apthet
Neighbour = Nero Cain
1-shot Gladiator = momo
Day 3 King = Vecna
Night 1 Universal Backup = CheekyTeeky
Neighbour = Almost50
Odd-Night Motion Detector = Gamma Emerald
Macho = Lil Uzi Vert
Inactive = Saudade
Compulsive Quitter = Sothis Stefon Styx (RadiantCowbells/Baezu hydra)

Timid = Lil Uzi Vert?
Vanilla = Oversoul
Inventor = ?
Day 5 Innocent Child = CheekyTeeky
Miller = Momo
Neighbour = ?
1-shot Gladiator = popsofctown
Day 3 King = ?
Night 1 Universal Backup = Hidden Happiness
Neighbour = Vecna
Odd-Night Motion Detector = apthet
Macho = Gamma Emerald
Inactive = Saudade
Compulsive Quitter = Sothis Stefon Styx

This is what I have so far.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No proposal is going to be perfect so whining about not getting a certain role needs to stop.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Then maybe you should lobby for something else other than neighbor. I think the likelihood of Nero’s alignment will become more apparent and clear as he posts.

what would you give me?

Not sure yet. I was hoping you would obvious town by now.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Is it just me or inventor doesn’t seem strong at all? Activated Hero is too situational.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not sure yet. I was hoping you would obvious town by now.

ok, I'm obv town. What would you give me then?

Probably timid or vanilla.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

y?

Strong town reads should receive negative utility roles or useless roles to discourage scum from killing them.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Theme games aint competitive but a chill lounge so giving me the mute role is out of the question for me

Where have you gotten this impression from?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

There’s nothing I’m terribly afraid of scum having there Momo.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This day is starting to get boring

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Let’s start from scratch then.

Miller = Momo
Inactive = Saudade
Compulsive Quitter = Sothis Stefon Styx

Can everyone agree on this?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Just seems like the proposal won’t go through.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don’t think Cheeky should get Gladiator but everything else is okay.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't trust pops enough to give them UB

Hmm... why? And what would you give him?

pedit:

Why not Vert? I have Cheeky as scumlean and trapping a potential scum with a Gladiator seems like a really good idea.

Mainly because she can be impulsive and hot headed as town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So you want me to be killed later because I'm not a threat? There's no logic here.

Saying your endgame fodder isn’t contradictory.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

y?

Strong town reads should receive negative utility roles or useless roles to discourage scum from killing them.

Gross. How the eff is Nero strong town?

I’m not calling Nero strong town..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Cheeky might be scum here.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV, what do you make of this whole RC situation? You think this couldve come from a towb RC?

I wanted to not read the replace out as AI but I find it strange Titus replaced in instead of Baezu. This makes me think there’s some truth to Momo’s theory. I’ve never seen him blow up like that as scum though. I even was town reading him up until this post.

because you talk about and justify your read on me like someone who feels caught for the wrong reasons, like you don't believe it but you believe the 'logic' is sound.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You can get away with being town read for catching-up in that matter but she didn’t do it right.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What if we lynched HH and had someone sort Titus in the hood?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Eh I agree with Nero somewhat, it's better to not provoke him as it imo becomes harder to read him if he gets riled up. That said I think the clearest method to read him I've come up with only works if he gets riled up.

dont do crack cocaine boys n girls

Ex-fucking-scuse me?

What, that upset you?

Yes, I feel you're discrediting my statement with a drug allegation which is fucking disgusting

Gemma's town. I had an instance with ETL like this.

That was pretty soft.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This day is going to end in a mad scramble if we don’t start drafting up another proposal soon.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Against

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why is Apthet scum?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That leaves me with macho or miller which I’m fine with.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No proposal is going to be perfect

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: For

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My issue with Momo being neighbor is he wants me to be a neighbor as well and that just isn’t my strong suit.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What’s your read on Cheeky? We can give her neighbor and have Saudade sort her.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Guys I have a lot going on. Sorry will contribute more if I make it later into the game.

VOTE: Against

[Lil Uzi Vert]

1-Shot Gladiator: Nero Cain
Inactive: Apthet
Day 5 Innocent Child: Oversoul
Inventor: Vecna or popsofctown
Day 3 King: Almost50
Macho: Gamma Emerald
Miller: Momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor: CheekyTeeky
Neighbor: Saudade
Vanilla: Iconeum
Timid: Titus or Hidden Happiness
N1 Universal Backup: popsofctown or Vecna
Compulsive Quitter: Hidden Happiness or Titus

[Lil Uzi Vert]

1-Shot Gladiator: Nero Cain
Inactive: Apthet
Day 5 Innocent Child: Oversoul
Inventor: Vecna or popsofctown
Day 3 King: Almost50
Macho: Gamma Emerald
Miller: Momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor: CheekyTeeky
Neighbor: Saudade
Vanilla: Iconeum
Timid: Titus or Hidden Happiness
N1 Universal Backup: popsofctown or Vecna
Compulsive Quitter: Hidden Happiness or Titus

I'd vote yay for this id officially proposed. I have one minor reservation -that I'm willing to swallow- about Nero getting the Gladiator, because if someone enrages Nero he could very well go out of his way and lock himself up against that someone. You need not piss Nero if you're town and this proposal passes.

The theory behind giving Nero the role was for him to town tell. His anger and frustration often comes from town and Gladiator seems like the perfect role to test whether or not he’s attempting to fake it or not.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think the main problem I have with that is how Luv has been trying to present himself in the thread. 'It doesn't have to be good I'm fine with any role' but when it comes time to make his own thing it's twisted in a few ways that clearly fit his agenda as scum. Some of the stuff on that list he's barely (or none at all unless I missed it) talked about.
pedit: You know my top 2 scumreads agreeing makes me feel a lot better.

Just because I’m fine with any role doesn’t mean I don’t have a preference. I am human after all.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

1-Shot Gladiator: Nero Cain
Inactive: Apthet
Day 5 Innocent Child: Oversoul
Inventor: popsofctown
Day 3 King: Almost50
Macho: Gamma Emerald
Miller: Momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor: CheekyTeeky
Neighbor: Saudade
Vanilla: Iconeum
Timid: Hidden Happiness
N1 Universal Backup: Vecna
Compulsive Quitter: Titus

Do you mind backup Vecna?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You keep asking that as if there’s not quite a few reasons why the slot is being scum read. I’m not going to repeat what’s already been said.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This is why you’ve been ignored. You keep acting obtuse and you’ve have presented no strong reasons to consider another lynch.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You keep asking that as if there’s not quite a few reasons why the slot is being scum read. I’m not going to repeat what’s already been said.

I already see reasons why some people think they're scum and I already have my own opinion I care more about your own right now.
pedit: VOTE: against

My reasons are the same as theirs.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So you agree with every reason?

VOTE: Against

Yeah.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Got prodded.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why aren’t we lynching scum yet?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why aren’t we lynching scum yet?

You could vote against but I've never had high faith in your early game.

I don’t get any of the scum reads on you, Cheeky, or HH. I’ve read what little has been expressed on why other slots might be scum but it isn’t connecting with me right now.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why aren’t we lynching scum yet?

Who's the scum then, Uzi?

If we are getting cold feet on Titus, I can compromise on Cheeky.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have this weird feeling the game is probably 1 deepwolf 2 obvscum, because otherwise the proposals would have either butterglided or hardbounced.

Am I crazy?

Im afraid this type of setup (while fun and awesome) has a tendency to make a certain crowd "proposal-tired"

I can attest to this.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I’m willing to give Titus another day to redeem herself but I wanted to do that through the neighborhood. My hope was for a town Titus to discuss mechanics with someone.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

1-Shot Gladiator: Almost50
Inactive: Saudade
Day 5 Innocent Child: Oversoul
Inventor: popsofctown
Day 3 King: Apthet
Macho: Gamma Emerald
Miller: Momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor: Titus
Neighbor: Vecna
Vanilla: Iconeum
Timid: Hidden Happiness
N1 Universal Backup: Nero Cain
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Against

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Offical Proposal:

1-Shot Gladiator: Almost50
Inactive: Saudade
Day 5 Innocent Child: Oversoul
Inventor: popsofctown
Day 3 King: Apthet
Macho: Gamma Emerald
Miller: Momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbor: Titus
Neighbor: Vecna
Vanilla: Iconeum
Timid: Hidden Happiness
N1 Universal Backup: Nero Cain
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You’re unlikely to be night killed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Saudade replaced out?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Against

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I’m not good in neighborhoods.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: against

also, were approaching a point where its highly possible that scum are simply holding out on proposals to be able to get their wishes pushed through by merit of being the only ones left being able to propose.

This has been a similar fear of mine. Create enough apathy by shooting down everything in order to keep the game as mountainous as possible.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

To anyone who has played with Titus before, can you comment on how Titus just vanished after people started doubting her for a lynch and is now coasting on radio silence? Is that even remotely feasible to come from town?

I wouldn’t peg it as alignment indicative. She has a pretty busy life outside of here.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Scum is scum. I'd need you to state why Cheeky isn't scum to change my mind

I think you'd be right more often if you townread me instead of default scumreading me every game. You know stats and all.

Maybe it's a you problem 'o'

You make games unfun. What happened to you?

This sounds fake and forced as hell.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could someone give me some homework or something to do. I still want to lynch within Cheeky/HH/Titus.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Fyi if it gets down to the last proposal possible it passes immediately

Ah. That’s a relief.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I almost wanted to town read Nero for his recent proposal draft but I remember he fakes some really bad reads as scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could someone give me some homework or something to do. I still want to lynch within Cheeky/HH/Titus.

Make a proposal that I can sheep?

I thought I had one and then it got voted down

The main problem that I’m finding with every proposal is gladiator, neighbor, and who gets backup. Each proposal has gotten shot down one way or the other for a majority of people due to not liking who will be receiving those roles.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV what is your reads list? Pls put some reasoning for each, I feel like you haven't really talked much on a few slots

I can go into detail on apthet and Ice. I don’t get the scum reads there.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I still dont have a rocksolid townread on you by now LUV.

Its starting to get a bit worrysome.

Your homework: make me townread you before D3

My activity earlier I can assure you isn’t worrying as Pisskop noted. It was due to being excited about the setup. Not because I rolled scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could someone give me some homework or something to do. I still want to lynch within Cheeky/HH/Titus.

Make a proposal that I can sheep?

I thought I had one and then it got voted down

The main problem that I’m finding with every proposal is gladiator, neighbor, and who gets backup. Each proposal has gotten shot down one way or the other for a majority of people due to not liking who will be receiving those roles.

The difference is that proposals are slowly running out, and I want to have mine be usefull. I'm also prettttty bad when it comes to mechanics despite really trying to get my head around them this game. I don't get much further then giving towny roles to my town reads and negative roles to the scummy reads…
So make me a proposal, we discuss it, and then nobody has to worry about me being one of the last players still having one.

And if I don't 'obey' our agreed proposal, you can still lynch me on the next day. Seems like a nice safety line

1-shot Gladiator: Almost50
Inactive: Titus
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Oversoul
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbor: popsofctown
Neighbor: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Against

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could someone give me some homework or something to do. I still want to lynch within Cheeky/HH/Titus.

Make a proposal that I can sheep?

I thought I had one and then it got voted down

The main problem that I’m finding with every proposal is gladiator, neighbor, and who gets backup. Each proposal has gotten shot down one way or the other for a majority of people due to not liking who will be receiving those roles.

The difference is that proposals are slowly running out, and I want to have mine be usefull. I'm also prettttty bad when it comes to mechanics despite really trying to get my head around them this game. I don't get much further then giving towny roles to my town reads and negative roles to the scummy reads…
So make me a proposal, we discuss it, and then nobody has to worry about me being one of the last players still having one.

And if I don't 'obey' our agreed proposal, you can still lynch me on the next day. Seems like a nice safety line

1-shot Gladiator: Almost50
Inactive: Titus
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Oversoul
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbor: popsofctown
Neighbor: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky

From first thoughts i'd:

Switch CT with A50 (I scumread A50. CT to a lesser extent, and I think gladiator is the perfect tool for forcing this slot to become more active).
Switch Nero with HH

Other then that I think it's acceptable

Quoting in case the majority wants Ico to propose.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: For

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Cheeky had a similar fake read on me in Everything Is Completely Normal and was scum. Also none of what she has posted so far resembles her town game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Creature do you have any reads yet?

This is also fake too. Guy just replaced in and stated he wasn’t even going to read. What reads would he have?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV stop tunnelling me, it's about as effective as vecna shading my every post.

I’m not tunneling.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hell you're the one that’s actually tunneling.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Creature do you have any reads yet?

This is also fake too. Guy just replaced in and stated he wasn’t even going to read. What reads would he have?

He could still read content from when he replaced in and get reads wtf lol

Just replaced in.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Creature replaces Titus.

Not a day has passed and only 6 pages since this was announced.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV, do you wanna comment on the fact I think Ico/You seems off when he was outsourcing the proposal?

I can understand mechanics not being a strong suit. It definitely isn’t mine and I feel like if you don’t enjoy thinking about setups and breaking them, making a proposal is going to be troublesome. I can however see how his second reasoning can read it bit off. No one would be worried about him being one of the last people making the proposal because anything that goes too against the grain at the point is practically a scum claim.

I think it’s town to want to discuss the changes he had in mine rather then just openly sheep it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why did we give Creature Miller again?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why did we give Creature Miller again?

Why wouldn't we, he's one of the more readable players here

Not anymore.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: For

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Well Vecna was obvious town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

personally, I think A50 + creature + HH/Nero is gamesolve. Ive been wrong before. If this flips town, I disagree with momo that creature should be the lynch tomorrow, but im probabaly getting too stuck in the picture of these connections that might not exist.

Probably this.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

These roles are a lot harder to assign than the previous ones.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bulletproof should go to a scum read. Give Bingle tree stump if we all end up town reading him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maybe give the post restriction to AP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bulletproof should go to a scum read. Give Bingle tree stump if we all end up town reading him.

Why does Bulletproof go to a scumread though? I was thinking it would make sense on the day 5 innocent child

Tree stump counts as a second lynch, right..? We're effectively lynching the person

I don’t think giving it to the IC will do any good. A majority of us are familiar with Nero here and know how easily he can go off the handle and be a distraction or lead town off a cliff. He’s not getting killed anytime soon when you not only take that consideration but the fact that he hasn’t made any waves either.

I was thinking of using the tree stump to take away a night kill choice for scum. If we’re going to lose another strong town player like a Vecna vote, I’d at least want to have their voice.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bulletproof should go to a scum read. Give Bingle tree stump if we all end up town reading him.

Why does Bulletproof go to a scumread though? I was thinking it would make sense on the day 5 innocent child

Tree stump counts as a second lynch, right..? We're effectively lynching the person

I don’t think giving it to the IC will do any good. A majority of us are familiar with Nero here and know how easily he can go off the handle and be a distraction or lead town off a cliff. He’s not getting killed anytime soon when you not only take that into consideration but the fact that he hasn’t made any waves either.

I was thinking of using the tree stump to take away a night kill choice for scum. If we’re going to lose another strong town player vote like a Vecna, I’d at least want to have their voice.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have a fear that we will mislynch again and then town kill off another loud good town player and the game is over.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Town Cheeky would’ve used their gladiator imo.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Town Cheeky would’ve used their gladiator imo.

when?

Right in their opening posts.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Gladiator: CheekyTeeky
Inactive: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child: Dunnstral
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Bingle
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour: popsofctown
Neighbour: pisskop
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Vanilla: AP

Draft Proposal

Night 2 Bulletproof: Momo
Captain: popsofctown
Chronomage: pisskop
Doublevoter: Hidden Happiness
Neighbour: Jingle
Day 3 Post Restricted: AP
Psychologist: Apthet
Revisor: Dunnstral
Night 3 Compulsive Role Caller: Lil Uzi Vert
Treestump: Creature
Even Night Tracker: Gamma Emerald
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Dunn I initially didn’t realize you replaced Nero until doing my proposal.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I feel like this game was going pretty smoothly until we stopped tying to lynch your slot to be honest.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Now it’s all confusing and the mechanics don’t really help.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That would check out if he didn’t state that he wasn’t taking the game seriously. I feel like he intended to just try to teach Baezu but lost his cool and dipped.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I agree but the fact that Baezu didn’t replace the hydra is concerning. Could just be a mod error but eh.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Dunn I initially didn’t realize you replaced Nero until doing my proposal.

OK

In that case, what is the reasoning for not having me as night 2 bp in that lost?

Your predecessor wasn’t obvious town and you don’t have a night action.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So why does momo have the bulletproof in your proposal...?

It accomplished two things. It appeases those that scum read him and it gives protection to one of my town reads. Which I will admit is wavering a bit.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So I can get who I want lynched.

What happened is that I didn’t realize the BP was just Night 2 only.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

There’s no reason for you to be given BP here but I think your insistence for it is townie.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

At this stage I would be most happy with Lil Uzi Vert as Quitter.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bulletproof should go to a scum read. Give Bingle tree stump if we all end up town reading him.

^^I'd like to lynch this today already^^

Treestump tomorrow's King????? Remove your towniest slot from the mechanical part of the game??? And give BP to scum??? So not a single townie is safe from the kill??

I didn’t consider there being no way for any of us to propose tomorrow if he’s dead. I was just focused on limiting the options for the night kill. He can still draft up proposals and considering we had named him King, we would be more inclined to sheep him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Scum are going to cruise. I can feel it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I’m still not quite sure why I’m being scum read outside of policy. Momo I can understand a wee bit but there are worst slots out there.

Iconeum felt like policy yesterday and still does today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

There’s nothing helpful I have to say. No one is bringing any cases forward and the very few out there are very tinfoil and hard to follow.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This looks a lot like Cheeky’s scum game. Creature is probably scum. HH is probably scum. Nero was shaky.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why do you think I’m scum HH?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why do you think I’m scum HH?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My question wasn’t directed at just you Maria. It’s honestly news to me that you’ve believed I’m scum since Day 1. I know you took issue with my scum read of the RC slot but it never felt like anything serious.

I’m still not sure what exactly is the case on me. I believed stumping a town read was better than trying to lynch scum mainly because of Vecna being the night killed, the bad feeling I got after the Iconeum flip, and because I don’t think we are actually going to lynch scum any time soon. If you believe that I knew stumping the King would effectively skip Day 3, why would I out this instead of just subtly trying to influence town to give BP to someone else?

As for the BP, I honestly thought it was full. I didn’t give it to Dunn because I never actually scum read Nero, just didn’t get town vibes from him. He was also given the innocent child role. I didn’t find any of the Day 1 roles strong enough to justify giving a town read the BP. We aren’t in a position where a strong town member surviving through the night wins us the game either. A named Night 2 BP just honestly feels a bit underwhelming for town if it’s not given to Jingle.

As for my interactions with Iconeum about helping him with a Day 1 proposal, lynching me is only going to just prove that the simplest answer was the most likely here. Not everyone is interested in mechanics or care enough about it and as a result get overwhelmed and seek help. None of that is AI.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The reality is that there are three slots in favor of my lynch that don’t have any legit reasons to be in favor it.

Cheeky, Creature, and HH.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Against

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@LUV/apthet:

Who do you want to lynch/stump?

Cheeky, Creature, and HH.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: For

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Strongly think that’s indicative of scum Cheeky but whatever.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Welp.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I knew after we lynched Ico the game was over.