Large Normal 229 | Manatee's Musical Mafia | Game Over

[Almost50]

It's a 21 player game.

Even if it were a 42 player game.. a quickhammer is so suspicious it takes a "real monkey" to do it.

[SJReaver]

Who would you expect to quick~hammer?? I am already on the wagon. FL & N_M are not in the game. Who -from this players list- has the balls (or is enough of a troll) to quickhammer and hope to get away with it?

Yes... no one would do that.

[SJReaver]

Honestly, my impulse control isn't too good today. I'm going to vote now so I don't give into temptation.

VOTE: glitch

That's L-1.

See, I am not quickhammering today. I am good.

[Almost50]

@SJ

Are you saying you're a troll or are you saying you're a real monkey?

P.S. I love that cat picture. I actually am very much a cat person.

[SJReaver]

I don't think of myself as a troll. I just enjoy eliminating people and don't have a ton of patience.

One of the reasons I was excited to leave newbies for normals is that I wanted vigilante. All the scum-hunting and no bothering with convincing others you're right. It's the perfect role!

Actually, maybe SK is better. That way if you get a townie, you don't have to feel bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

One of the reasons I was excited to leave newbies for normals is that I wanted vigilante. All the scum-hunting and no bothering with convincing others you're right. It's the perfect role!

I hate vigilantes. 9/10 times they suck.
And i’m including myself in the "suck" category. Never give me a gun.

[Bell]

Let's put this out there

GLITCH IS AT L-1 DO NOT VOTE HIM FURTHER UNTIL WE GET A CLAIM

Great,
Glitch, why aren't you mafia this game? Who do you think on your wagon might be mafia? Or just in general, who do you think is mafia.

[ManateeDude]

VC1.09

With 21 alive it takes 11 to Eliminate

superbowl9 (4):

stan1ey, 72offsuit, Town looter, Fwesnid

Glitch (9):

Nero Cain, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever, Hiraki, Titus, Almost50 NoPowerOverMe, I Keep Siteflaking, superbowl9, SJReaver

Lapsa (1)

: ralph217

NorwegianBoyEE (1):

JacksonVirgo

Nero Cain (2):

Glitch, Marshmallow Marshall

JacksonVirgo (1):

Pickaxe Pete

Not Voting:

Almost50, Lapsa, NorwegianBoyEE

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-24 16:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Posting this with the knowledge im probably wrong, I'll fix it in an hour once im off my phone

[Bell]

Who would you expect to quick~hammer?? I am already on the wagon. FL & N_M are not in the game. Who -from this players list- has the balls (or is enough of a troll) to quickhammer and hope to get away with it?

Lapsa, Dexter, Marshall, or you know, anybody who drunk posts.


@Kitty, read back at my progression from 1 meta read game to two meta read games to, Idk what he is anymore.

[Bell]

Liking the Glitch wagon because most of the people there i TR/feel good about.

Meh, I have 3 null reads on this wagon. Even if I were town reading them all that doesn't mean we're hitting scum.

[NoPowerOverMe]

The odds of hitting scum on D1 is pretty low regardless. Your statement means nothing, Bell.

[Bell]

It's pointing out that town don't know who the scum are and that so a wagon of mostly town does not mean we're hitting scum. It's a put down for optimism because I'm lame like that.

[NoPowerOverMe]

That's a pretty obvious statement.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Look Marsh, your vote on nero is like, 95% likely to be town. vote elsewhere.
I've literally never seen scum act like nero is rn.
He's super obv town. And you can quote me and make fun of me forever if I'm wrong.

We can paranoia scumread Nero if he’s alive after like 3-4 days. But i’m not for a D1 lynch on him.
Nero votes are wasted votes because i’ll never support it.

Don’t go to the dark side MM. I know it’s tempting. But the side of good is here, begging you to cast aside your sins and prove your towniness.

Uh ok, I guess this is a "throw my vote away" situation. I still view Nero as scummy though. UNVOTE: Nero Cain back to this then.

you said norway isn't being pushed that much. He's been one on the days main pushes besides you, Glitch and Superbowl.

I'd say Stanley was pushed about as hard as him, which isn't much. Speaking of that, surprisingly the push on Stanley died down because... uh, because he went offline? Or am I missing something?

Also, back to this: VOTE: Superbowl

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Who would you expect to quick~hammer?? I am already on the wagon. FL & N_M are not in the game. Who -from this players list- has the balls (or is enough of a troll) to quickhammer and hope to get away with it?

Lapsa, Dexter, Marshall, or you know, anybody who drunk posts.


@Kitty, read back at my progression from 1 meta read game to two meta read games to, Idk what he is anymore.

I do not like what you think of me. I would never hammer early unless there's a real consensus on it (or unless I'm dumb and accidentally hammer lol).

[NoPowerOverMe]

Yeah, MM looks scummy.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Honestly, my impulse control isn't too good today. I'm going to vote now so I don't give into temptation.

VOTE: glitch

That's L-1.

See, I am not quickhammering today. I am good.

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Everyone just ignores my post on scum!72. Feels bad.

I thought that it was over.....
I thought you'd understand.....

That Superbowl;s wagon.....
Is the one to get on, band.....

Mafia is red,
Townies are blue,
This is a bad wagon,
I'm voting for you.

VOTE: 72offsuit

I could also get on board with this btw, but I feel like Superbowl is a better lynch info-wise. Voters and people who commented on Offsuit aren't legion. I also think Superbowl is more likely to flip scum. Good lynches either way.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

VC1.09

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch

superbowl9 (4):

stan1ey, 72offsuit, Town looter, Fwesnid

Glitch (8):

Nero Cain, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever, Hiraki, Titus, NoPowerOverMe, I Keep Siteflaking, superbowl9, SJReaver

Lapsa (1)

: ralph217

NorwegianBoyEE (1):

JacksonVirgo

Nero Cain (2):

Glitch, Marshmallow Marshall

JacksonVirgo (1):

Pickaxe Pete

Not Voting:

Almost50, Lapsa, NorwegianBoyEE

Deadline:

4 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes

Mod Notes:

Posting this with the knowledge im probably wrong, I'll fix it in an hour once im off my phone

Either this VC is terribly wrong or the people screaming Glitch is at L-1 are terribly bad at math. Or they're hoping for him to be fooled and not to look at the big obvious orange vote count lol.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Spoiler: long post

Anime pfps are rising in strength. Soon we will take over the universe

Hear hear brother.

The time for revolution is neigh. Throw off the chains of the bourgeoisie anti-anime oppressors.

The temptation is too strong.

FORWARD

This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

This is the correct take

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.

This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

Right. Good start from offsuit here.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

Not exactly original, but pretty understandable and acceptable.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

LOL, voted for the wrong player.

VOTE: MM Choo choo!

I think I'm losing my marbles.

I did mean to vote for Bell.

VOTE: Bell

Choo choo

This confusion leads me to question what exactly Offsuit thought he was sheeping, and what his intent was when he did it. When you genuinely sheep a reasoning you find good, it's because you thought about it and really liked it... so uh, what is this? Not sure I like it.

Thats because I wasnt confident about what i was sheeping.

Anime pfps are rising in strength. Soon we will take over the universe

Hear hear brother.

The time for revolution is neigh. Throw off the chains of the bourgeoisie anti-anime oppressors.

The temptation is too strong.

FORWARD

This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

This is the correct take

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.

This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

Right. Good start from offsuit here.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

Not exactly original, but pretty understandable and acceptable.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

LOL, voted for the wrong player.

VOTE: MM Choo choo!

I think I'm losing my marbles.

I did mean to vote for Bell.

VOTE: Bell

Choo choo

This confusion leads me to question what exactly Offsuit thought he was sheeping, and what his intent was when he did it. When you genuinely sheep a reasoning you find good, it's because you thought about it and really liked it... so uh, what is this? Not sure I like it.

This is actually really scummy.
Liked my previous stance on himself.
I do something that based on what he has posted, he should scumread me for, but instead concludes with a fence-sittish "so uh,

what is this

?

Not sure

I like it"

Anime pfps are rising in strength. Soon we will take over the universe

Hear hear brother.

The time for revolution is neigh. Throw off the chains of the bourgeoisie anti-anime oppressors.

The temptation is too strong. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_GBfiKjJZ8[/youtube]

FORWARD

This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

This is the correct take

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.

This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

Right. Good start from offsuit here.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

Not exactly original, but pretty understandable and acceptable.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

LOL, voted for the wrong player.

VOTE: MM Choo choo!

I think I'm losing my marbles.

I did mean to vote for Bell.

VOTE: Bell

Choo choo

This confusion leads me to question what exactly Offsuit thought he was sheeping, and what his intent was when he did it. When you genuinely sheep a reasoning you find good, it's because you thought about it and really liked it... so uh, what is this? Not sure I like it.

Thats because I wasnt confident about what i was sheeping.

Um, thank you for your honesty. Why would you sheep something you're not confident about though lol? That sounds like an obvious recipe for disaster from a townie's point of view, no?

Anime pfps are rising in strength. Soon we will take over the universe

Hear hear brother.

The time for revolution is neigh. Throw off the chains of the bourgeoisie anti-anime oppressors.

The temptation is too strong.

FORWARD

This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

This is the correct take

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.

This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?

Nothing wrong with that post. Why wouldn't !townMM try to halt discussion that they think is filler and bloating the thread?

Right. Good start from offsuit here.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

Not exactly original, but pretty understandable and acceptable.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

LOL, voted for the wrong player.

VOTE: MM Choo choo!

I think I'm losing my marbles.

I did mean to vote for Bell.

VOTE: Bell

Choo choo

This confusion leads me to question what exactly Offsuit thought he was sheeping, and what his intent was when he did it. When you genuinely sheep a reasoning you find good, it's because you thought about it and really liked it... so uh, what is this? Not sure I like it.

This is actually really scummy.
Liked my previous stance on himself.
I do something that based on what he has posted, he should scumread me for, but instead concludes with a fence-sittish "so uh,

what is this

?

Not sure

I like it"

I like your previous stance on myself because it's right. What, you'd want me not to talk about it because it doesn't fit my distrust of you that comes later? How would that serve the town's interest? Answer: it wouldn't.
And if you were actually basing on what I posted instead of twisting my words, you'd see that I'm trying to see where you're coming from instead of instantly accusing you of being scum. It's not fencesitting, it's the healthy level of doubt required in Mafia lol.

So basically it feels like !scumMM concluding that its not in his interests to scumread me, so he doesnt.

And then the final layer of red paint.

There are two possibilities: either Offsuit is a pretty OMGUSsy townie, or they're scum throwing shade at me. I'm slightly leaning towards the latter due to their lack of content (they literally popped in only to defend themselves and shade me, and said NOTHING about the rest of the thread's events) and due to the nature of the shade-throwing here. I'm open to the possibility of an Offsuit lynch today. I'd also like to see more content from them that isn't self-defense, so here's a question: what do you think about Norwee and about Superbowl, Offsuit?

For the record, this is why I think Offsuit would be a good lynch. There's also the "you beat me to it" post when someone called out Superbowl for his "explaining reads is bad" post, which Offsuit never really followed up on afterwards; yet he still recently called for a wagon on Superbowl instead of on Glitch, which is (even though I agree with the idea) a pretty bad progression. It doesn't even exclude SvS, because Offsuit put so little pressure on Superbowl that he could be getting free distanciation points, given the amount of pressure Superbowl has been under.

finally fixed the messy spoilers that made the post look really weird

[ralph217]

VOTE: power nopowre is arguing just cuse my thoghts are hes scum .

[Bell]

^"NoPowerOverMe is arguing just because. I think he's scum for this"

[NoPowerOverMe]

It's not just because SB is a TR. I've said as much.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I shall refrain from arguing in the future. LOL.

[Town looter]

Manatee's VC should read 10, Glitch is at L-1.

There are 9 names listed in the VCA and he missed Almost50's vote in 1022

Spoiler:

Unvote, Vote: Glitch

Glitch v Superbowl, let's see what happens.

VOTE: Glitch

I came in today with the intent to read. However, I manage d to talk myself out of it. I am willing to sheep someone provided I know them well. OBVIOUSLY the wagon on Glitch is the one with ALL the people I "know well".

VOTE: Glitch

That was easy.

Looks like we're consolidating.

VOTE: Glitch

VOTE: Glitch
I want to know what he will do when pressured.

L-2

are u gonna let him claim?

I also want a claim before any hammer were to happen.
Hammering before that is a scumclaim.
UNVOTE:

Just to put this back up because I want to see a claim and jumping off at L-2 to avoid a quickhammer (which should just show scum anyways)

VOTE: Glitch

L-2

Honestly, my impulse control isn't too good today. I'm going to vote now so I don't give into temptation.

VOTE: glitch

That's L-1.

See, I am not quickhammering today. I am good.