mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk how this happened but I haven’t posted yet
I regret being a part of this
PEdit: waow

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually, here's my first serious vote 9actually my first in-game vote, since my RVS went to a spectator)

VOTE: Gamma

Gamma has been on MS for 4.5 hours now. He made 47 public posts (the last if which was maybe 2 minutes ago) but is yet to even make an ego post in this game.

I wanna vote you for this.
But I feel so bad about misreading you and making an ass out of myself that I want to vote with you instead. :3

It's honestly fair him to call me on it, though it's not really meaning of anything for my alignment or anything (except I guess that I've been avoiding the game)

VOTE: Gamma
Gamma has been on MS for 4.5 hours now. He made 47 public posts (the last if which was maybe 2 minutes ago) but is yet to even make an ego post in this game.

I do seem to recall the last time Gamma did that, he was scum, so consider me in support of this. (I like my Bell vote more, but in spirit I am with you here and will happily switch.)

Which game was this? I can meta dive you if you want but I'd rather hear from you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually, here's my first serious vote 9actually my first in-game vote, since my RVS went to a spectator)

VOTE: Gamma

Gamma has been on MS for 4.5 hours now. He made 47 public posts (the last if which was maybe 2 minutes ago) but is yet to even make an ego post in this game.

To be fair, this game’s huge, and if you’re not in it, or plan to be, i can understand why.

If anything this is probably more town indicative for me.



Side note, I have an 8p Micro game in queue with the theme of Guillermo Del Toro’s The Shape of Water, should be a fun small ride. It’s taking long to fill than my large themes.

Just in case anyone is looking for a small game to play.

but what do you think it means for me? You kinda made it about yourself there.

[Gamma Emerald]

music should not be listened to with headphones - if certain elements are too quiet for a speaker then they are worthless

except that's not why I use headphones, I use them so I don't have to worry about others hearing my stuff

norwegian why didn't you place an rvs vote
also fuck yeah neither noraa nor shelly are in this game so top post count is all mine

I fucking hate you already

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright monkey, we both know my scumread on you is inevitable, let’s get this over with

VOTE: a50

Of course.
Interesting Maneuver.

Buttercup is Hectic.

Yes

disappointed by low posting by Ban Hydras so far - 3 ppl but not top poster?

jfc I hate all you top posters for egging each other on to create this abomination of a game
I will have words with the vig if they do not shoot primarily in the top posters

@Nero I'm just now starting to read, I've put this game off until now in dread of the massive size.

[Gamma Emerald]

i've sr this slot every game, eventually I'll be right
VOTE: taylor

great post! locktown!

VOTE: Morning Mage
sorry MT but your hydra partner needs to exit the game post-haste

[Gamma Emerald]

Miller Mason

U WOT M8

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: tayl0r

yeah i def like you
i'll vote taylor soon enough

I will say DDL at least comes off as one of the more sane players thanks to you guys making this game so long already

[Gamma Emerald]

i laughed that you questioned that, but not the "strong player" bit.

why would he question that part?

[Gamma Emerald]

Guys, anyone that uses THAT "thing" as an emoji regurarly cannot be human. Nor a good member from town.

"guys" to appeal to majority? whoops, a scumslip this early mon ami?

thing is wrt the world population the majority is female by like 5% iirc
get owned with statistics

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi, Hello, Howdy, Hollah, Hey, How's it hanging, howdy-doo. Heyah. Sorry I could only think of eight greetings, the other fourteen of you will have to go ungreeted. If you want to fight amongst yourselves to work out who each h based greeting was for then I won't stop you.

-Blossom

well this head is obv hopkirk
way easier to sort than the last PPG hydra I played with

[Gamma Emerald]

i'm one of the four

I though the name was familiar! The four I was talking about were samantha, christopher, April & Plus (and the one in a hydra is Flopz)

Edit: Actually we did play together TWICE before Both were in 2017 though so more than 3 years ago (and my style has changed MUCH since)

oh shit i'm not one of the four then

I was gonna say april was boon/FL and surprise a50 but PJ beat me to the punch

Instead I will say souperbowl9's pfp is weeb but in a subtle way, and I like that

[Gamma Emerald]

Can I be a hectic alt and play in the same game as a hectic hydra

Being a hectic alt is a state of mind
One I will unfortunately never get to experience ;-;

[Gamma Emerald]

Woah, let's cool down. It's only page 9. We can all still be friends. Obviously we'll kill all those goddamn scumfucks, but the rest of us can be nice to each other until then.

Be nice to the scumfucks too. Just because they're criminal scum doesn't make them actual horrible people #notallscum

[Gamma Emerald]

also with 23 players it just about has to be multiball, yes?
i don't leave newbie queue, i've never played a newbie game with multiball

If it does turn out to be multiball this is probably an important post that most likely turns Echo into an IC. Really really doubt that scum would bring it up and pretend to speculate on that shit.

Weren't you in the Civ V game run by Venmar? Scum!Varsoon did that exact thing there.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi Bell hi Hectic hi Hopkirk hi Vecna hi BM >ω< hi almost hi Superbowl hi Mena hi Gamma hi Tayl0r hi

*gasp*

hi jjh927 hi Titus hi Norwe hi Plus and hi DrDoLittle !!

~Morning

okay can we vote out Morning she

called a meeting

made a post just to say hello

[Gamma Emerald]

i wanna know why blossom called me flipping when I only voted taylor so far in rvs. Did they mean echo? or was it a joke?

I don't remember saying that and can't see it in my iso, can you point me where?

-Blossom

post 198

Oh right yeah. I saw your avatar and thought Norway was the one asking this question. That was serious, but was about Echo. I don't think I'm very good at names given I've already got you mixed up with two people.

-Blossom

Wow. Rascist against weebs i see.
Like you can’t tell us apart.

waow I'm prescient with the comment I made about superbole's pfp

i wanna know why blossom called me flipping when I only voted taylor so far in rvs. Did they mean echo? or was it a joke?

I don't remember saying that and can't see it in my iso, can you point me where?

-Blossom

post 198

Oh right yeah. I saw your avatar and thought Norway was the one asking this question. That was serious, but was about Echo. I don't think I'm very good at names given I've already got you mixed up with two people.

-Blossom

Wow. Rascist against weebs i see.
Like you can’t tell us apart.

I don't hate weebs, some of my best friends and hydra pals are weebs. We're even using an anime magical girl group pic as our hydra picture.
I even watched a few anime myself, it's just I try not to look too closely at anime girl pictures since some of them give off slightly creepy vibes.

-Blossom

This is actually why, I when I stopped being edgy despair boi that's actually a curvy woman, I chose the pfp I did rather than breaking out the Melody one I had from Dragalia before. I got criticized for it in a way I felt like had merit, so I opted for a character that wasn't even human because I don't think a vegetable is gonna bother as many people as a loli (even though I don't think Melody is a loli)

[Gamma Emerald]

What do you mean agressive-person?

You just called powerpuff girls anime... the weeb community is in shambles

Are you saying powerpuff girls isn't an anime? I'm sorry if me saying it is hurt anyone, I wouldn't want to make anyone in the weeb community feel sad. I hope they can keep enjoying all their favoruite shows like Avatar the Last Airbender and Miraculous Ladybug in peace.

-Blossom

How could you forget RWBY the ultimate not-anime anime?
I'm gonna assemble all the other seven RWBY fans on this site and we're gonna shoot you with our assorted weapons that also happen to be guns

Don't worry bell I can just recap you and then decide if I want to kill you based on your reaction

or we can put a cap in everyone making the game ultra-long

[Gamma Emerald]

doesn't mean you have to be mean to the people behind the mask

[Gamma Emerald]

I took a moment to reconsider, and yep, definitely not a gimmick alt

~Buttercup

I HATE BOTH (BY WHICH I MEAN ALL FIVE) OF YOU

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh god oh fuck don't make this a competition guys. This is like a speedrun to see how fast we can convince the thread to policy the hydras

If we need a replacement I'm 100% PMing UT to come in

[Gamma Emerald]

mastina seems very willing to shift votes rn (page 20)

[Gamma Emerald]

overconfident town that's wrong

this seems like an oddly specific box to put him in. Why do you say this of Vecna?

[Gamma Emerald]

ddl feels scummy but ddl always feels scummy

how? it's the very beginning of D1 and he's a generally inactive player who already has 10 posts. that's batting well over average imo

[Gamma Emerald]

u can't blast me for asking about a joke and then ask about a joke!

Im not actually voting you, and have no interest in voting you on D1

u seem to be doing a lot of huffing and puffing about me

These two are town.

Why? I kinda feel like they're just being themselves.

[Gamma Emerald]

okay I'm gonna stop after page 26, that's 2/3s through the game

I think Morning Mage should be limmed for multiple reasons

[Gamma Emerald]

okay I'm gonna stop after page 26, that's 2/3s through the game

I think Morning Mage should be limmed for multiple reasons

i am not impressed by them. "shoot the top posters", my partner "needs to exit the game poste-haste", the world's population is majority female, aaand i spent a post saying hi

anything I'm missing?

~Morning

Those last two parts were jokes (or at least not actual points). You seem a little hasty to discredit me, friend.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma I’m finally gonna guillotine you like a year later, I’m excited

Uh what

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma I’m finally gonna guillotine you like a year later, I’m excited

Uh what

Our very first game together I spent the whole time tunnelling your slot and trying to misguillotine you and your non-misguillotinability was part of the reason why the scumteam lost

And this time we’re gonna get to flip you on D1! The path to victory is assured

...
VOTE: Menalque

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what are the non-joke legitimate reasons you want Morning Mage dead?

~Buttercup

BM doesn’t seem to be genuinely sorting and is resorting to shade, they jumped on me trying to discredit my push by mixing in obvious joke points, and just want one of the most active slots dead and theirs is both the least town and the least entertaining of the most active players.
As for ignoring votes, can’t really engage Nero rn, and yours just seemed to be following A50, which while he called out a fair point, I think saying I should auto-die for it is kinda uncalled for. I had similar issues in AvP where I was town.

Btw there is one person I expect to at least read me well, if not right

[Gamma Emerald]

You have fifth most posts rn why are you surprised echo

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw there is one person I expect to at least read me well, if not right

Who is that?

I won’t say until they post a read on me (this should narrow it down), but it’s someone you have experience with as well

[Gamma Emerald]

its not the readlist itself
it's that you talked to your other heads in thread to emulate a stream of consciousness. That seemed fake to me.
VOTE: ban hydras

Oh are we finally considering banning this clownslot? Yeet
VOTE: Ban Hydras

If this is just to remove a chaotic hydra I’d rather go with Morning Mage
Less helpful, less entertaining (MT is good but BM is bad in this regard, whilst all heads of Ban Hydras aregood in this sense), and actually seems scummy imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Except I’ve clearly indicated it’s not a blind tunnel, and I’ve shown preference

Your weak words will not damage me.

[Gamma Emerald]

This gamma wagon stinks worse than my old roommate.

Well, what do you prefer instead?

I've given 2 options. BH or Echo.

I think Echo's response to my vote was lackluster. Wanna double tag team a vote on them for more pressure?

I’d prefer to press my own suspicions but I’d definitely pick Echo out of those options.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: ban hydras

this slot is making it difficult to play and it feels like they're doing this deliberately. can you block one player's posts and read the thread? kinda like an opposite iso?

Alisae made a software for that, iirc I have a link buried in my PMs

[Gamma Emerald]

May I speak my own mind?

[Gamma Emerald]

May I speak my own mind?

Since when did you need permission to do so?

I’d rather ask first if I’m answering a question directed at someone else.
I don’t personally mind hydrae, but these ones are deliberately acting to inflate the thread. I don’t think either on its own is a problem, but they’re making the situation worse together by egging each other on. So I think it will be healthy for the game length for one of them to go. I obviously prefer MM to go but BH can go and I won’t feel too bad about it.

[Gamma Emerald]

why do you need 5 real scumreads?

Because that'll be the number of scum in this game.

It's too large for four scum but too small for six scum. schadd_'s MBOS games are heavily vanilla, utterly ruling out six scum, but while they may be heavily vanilla, I don't see a world in which the setup is balanced with only four scum; there needs to be a fifth.

Thus, I need five real scumreads.

From personal experience 4 scum is possible, but it needs to be HEAVILY vanilla

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyway so I'm ascetic

You were not being subtle about this.

Was he? Either way I’m a bit concerned about the timing.

[Gamma Emerald]

As scum you wouldn’t gambit like this would you?

Don't think so

Can't see scum!me pulling a gambit day 1 of a large theme. Too much risk.

I don’t think it’s a fakeclaim gambit but it reads similar to what I did as scum ascetic once, where I claimed it later than I really should have out of obligation to do so D1

[Gamma Emerald]

Although i guess it's ironic that i technically outed more PR's this time unintentionally because A50 was so convinced i was referencing his group when i used the word "mason miller"

Oh I guess this happened
Yeah I did notice that early in the songs he posted, what bothers me is the fact you seem to have noticed it despite lacking the experience with him to know how that stuff works iirc

[Gamma Emerald]

Bte, this has just finished. I will lead you directly to my Day One post in which I correctly recognized Penguin was precisely the Scum RB, and I was right. I also spitted the Town Doctor on D1, so my only mistake was suspecting Billy was the Goon over Lost.

I am not saying I am always this precise, but I am showing you that sometimes my "silly little observations" do prove to be spot on.

I would now like to invite all town-aligned players on Gamma's wagon to switch to Norwee ASAP. Please and thank you.

btw I am curious if you realized I realized what you were crumbing. I think I made a few small notes about it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Although i guess it's ironic that i technically outed more PR's this time unintentionally because A50 was so convinced i was referencing his group when i used the word "mason miller"

Oh I guess this happened
Yeah I did notice that early in the songs he posted, what bothers me is the fact you seem to have noticed it despite lacking the experience with him to know how that stuff works iirc

What?

What is your meta experience with A50?

[Gamma Emerald]

Almo is probably fakeclaiming for the memes

~Buttercup

Bruh this is such a shit take
The way he crumbed is 100% genuine, I remember it from Civ V UPick

[Gamma Emerald]

Although i guess it's ironic that i technically outed more PR's this time unintentionally because A50 was so convinced i was referencing his group when i used the word "mason miller"

Oh I guess this happened
Yeah I did notice that early in the songs he posted, what bothers me is the fact you seem to have noticed it despite lacking the experience with him to know how that stuff works iirc

What?

What is your meta experience with A50?

A couple games under my belt.
I still don't understand what you were saying.

I’m saying that you managed to call out his exact role super early. Even if you had that past thing with Hectic it’s still weird af. I think you might be scum, potentially with another person who would have enough experience to notice such a thing. Because if it was solely because of the Hectic moment, why’d you also rattle off Daycop?

[Gamma Emerald]

1) Almo has fakeclaimed dumb rolls before, see the Covid game (which you were in)
2) It's really stupid to claim mason as a mason on day 1 under no pressure.
3) He claimed MILLER mason

~Buttercup

And what of the other person who claimed mason under no pressure

and

called out their “partner” with it?

mastina? She does it every game, it's completely NAI.

~Buttercup

So why are you calling out A50 exclusively?

[Gamma Emerald]

If it's fake, the three of them will never be nightkilled and nightkills will show casting doubt on their claim. It's best to townbin for today.

I got pedited but consider BH's townread going down for that pedit.

I like the take in the first half of this. Why was the PEdit not towny?

[Gamma Emerald]

why’d you also rattle off Daycop?

I was just commenting and memeing about BM claiming daycop.
And your suspicion is what... that i knew about town roles and intentionally wrote them out to put a huge mark on my head if they ever claim? Why the fuck would i do that as scum?

Why would you call out a claim that is both present and not present? I think you had an insider to A50’s playstyle who fed you that morsel of knowledge and that’s why those were listed together. It’s moon logic but it’s a moon logic I don’t think you planned for.

[Gamma Emerald]

Did A50 just claim us?

Interesting. I definitely would have preferred A50 be the only one to out D1

[Gamma Emerald]

If it's fake, the three of them will never be nightkilled and nightkills will show casting doubt on their claim. It's best to townbin for today.

I got pedited but consider BH's townread going down for that pedit.

I like the take in the first half of this. Why was the PEdit not towny?

An essay on the history of lynching is pure spam, iioa and utterly useless.

Yes but think about the players that make up that hydra. Is there a reason to think it’s actually a scum move to do that for any of them?

[Gamma Emerald]

@norskee you didn’t need to look at them if my theory is right

[Gamma Emerald]

whats your role name in the pm?

GOLIATH GOUTHWITS HEALTH INTERNS

GDI! We are TOTALLY unorganized, aren't we??

Moving on.

Would picked a different clip from this character but it was taking too long to find a good version of the clip.

[Gamma Emerald]

Although i guess it's ironic that i technically outed more PR's this time unintentionally because A50 was so convinced i was referencing his group when i used the word "mason miller"

Oh I guess this happened
Yeah I did notice that early in the songs he posted, what bothers me is the fact you seem to have noticed it despite lacking the experience with him to know how that stuff works iirc

What?

What is your meta experience with A50?

A couple games under my belt.
I still don't understand what you were saying.

I’m saying that you managed to call out his exact role super early. Even if you had that past thing with Hectic it’s still weird af. I think you might be scum, potentially with another person who would have enough experience to notice such a thing. Because if it was solely because of the Hectic moment, why’d you also rattle off Daycop?

This is such poor analysis. The human brain does NOT think in terms of "random"ness. It goes off of past data and uses that. So if Norway is drafting up a joke about claims, OF COURSE it makes sense that his brain references an outlier claim he's heard recently. This is on top of the fact that our role title is literally not miller mason. The ironic thing is that your brain's pattern-seeking behavior is now wanting to discount Norway doing the exact same thing. To say this is TMI at all is just so far off the mark. What benefit does scum Norway even derive from leaking that info in the first place? It makes no sense, find something else to deflect with pls

Okay piss off with the deflecting shit. I was greeted in this game with a wagon. Does that mean everything I push is a deflection? No, fuck off.
And like, sure it’s not really a likely scenario but I’m not interested in being told the odds rn. Right now is the time to go off wild ideas, rather than later when the results of the game are in the balance. Plus it also lets me see how norskee reacts. My feelings on that so far is that I think he’s trying to play it down in a suspicious way.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to understand it because your approach doesn't feel like it's leading to good reads for you.

well, I've already had 2 correct scum reads so...

uh

what

im counting a50 and SB. Even if they do win with the town I feel like anything that's not TOWN is scum. There are those that say that a 3p that can win with town aren't scum but I don't really buy into that philosophy.

This is so dumb. Maybe the reason they looked scummy was because

they are masons

? Do you count scumreads on regular masons as “correct” as well?
I’m really not impressed with the fact you’re inflating your ego with this garbage.

[Gamma Emerald]

but u r still 3p.

I mean, it ultimatly doesn't matter so lets selve the "is 3p scum?" talk and lynch the mafia, no?

You know what, I was thinking the approach Nero had was potentially scummy, this pushes it into definitely scummy. This sort of approach to 3P hunting reads as a scum one.

[Gamma Emerald]

why does no one else dislike mastina's list like I do?

I dislike it because we're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low. anyone with any reasonable ration would give us town points for Blossom's excellent jokes

~Buttercup

You forgot to mention your own winning humor

^Unless you're a masochist, that is.

Says the guy posting during the twenty somethingth page of RVS.

goddamn it these hydras

I can tell this guy is impressed with our top quality obvtowning. You're welcome friendo.

i feel like the potential benefit from a mastina scumflip today is massively outweighed by the drawbacks of flipping town!mastina, and in any case she seems to be making a concentrated effort to gamesolve, but i'm not sure if that's nai for her. VOTE: plusjoyed their entire push on mastina feels manufactured and 575 and 674 ping me as calling out something for which there is no reason to call out.

Do you think buddying her will work? Hm, gl.

-Blossom

VOTE: ban hydras

this slot is making it difficult to play and it feels like they're doing this deliberately. can you block one player's posts and read the thread? kinda like an opposite iso?

why dont you just skip over the post when you see the powerpuff girls icon

i feel all these posts are very not genuine -- it's super easy to glance over posts as you read if you don't want to read someone's posts

goddamnit a50/superbowl that's awfully convenient. "we have a pt, and we all investigate as third party, but not to worry! because we are actually town, and you will take our word for it."

that being said, that seems like exactly the kind of role schadd adds to the game to fw town, so i'll begrudgingly townbin the "masons".

this gamma wagon feels too fast and too easy to be a wagon on scum. i'm wagering that there's at least two or three scum on that wagon, maybe more.

I like this take from TGP tbh, and not just because it aids me. It reminds me of what I’m pretty sure was my first game with him. In it I replaced in to a mildly suspicious slot and made things a lot worse for myself, but I believe TGP among a few others correctly read that I was just floundering town and scum was trying to ensure I got voted out. I can’t say whether I think that’s the case rn but it’s a good sign for TGP that he sees what he sees.

[Gamma Emerald]

i also have at least some experience with gamma and dont think that he should be automatically scumbinned based on his posts so far. can someone explain the gamma wagon to me though? i dont understand it beyond "he didnt do much yet". because that describes a lot of people at this stage. like why is gamma scum rather than just a bit slow to get his legs planted? i think theres enough reason for a pressure wagon there but people seem to be out for blood, and to me we are barely out of RVS and i dont understand the rush or why people are so confident scumreading gamma at this point.

If gamma flips scum please god can we flip this next?

i feel like 2scum2bescum

Is this about me and Tay, and why?

[Gamma Emerald]

but see you didn't actually ask us to stop using it or say anything relating to the game, just "this is what the word lynch means and the history behind it"

This is true, I did half-pick up on that
I can agree with what Titus is saying about it now

[Gamma Emerald]

btw I am curious if you realized I realized what you were crumbing. I think I made a few small notes about it.

If you had been here from the start I would have, but then I got more curious when you didn't show up at all, which is why I prodded you with my vote.

Yeah that makes sense. If you’re expecting certain things of me but they aren't coming that would likely cause a fair amount of concern.

[Gamma Emerald]

i also have at least some experience with gamma and dont think that he should be automatically scumbinned based on his posts so far. can someone explain the gamma wagon to me though? i dont understand it beyond "he didnt do much yet". because that describes a lot of people at this stage. like why is gamma scum rather than just a bit slow to get his legs planted? i think theres enough reason for a pressure wagon there but people seem to be out for blood, and to me we are barely out of RVS and i dont understand the rush or why people are so confident scumreading gamma at this point.

If gamma flips scum please god can we flip this next?

i feel like 2scum2bescum

Is this about me and Tay, and why?

taylor's just defending you very blatantly, i don't think scum!taylor defends scum!gamma this hard, nor does she "don't understand the rush or why people are so confident scumreading gamma at this point."

If you had a parity cop result that told you one of me and Taylor were guilty, who would you vote out first?

[Gamma Emerald]

Between the pushing of a50’s claim as fake, the unproductive etymology (best way I can put it) wall, and just the bracket of players they fit in, I’m warming up to the idea of voting BH
PEdit: @Bell have I played with you on a different account/website Bell? I don’t think our combined meta is enough for you to expect that from me. What sort of wagon analysis do you expect?
@Echo based on your last post in our convo I wasn’t expecting that, but okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well there is at least one person I can’t get into rn without discussing ongoing games

[Gamma Emerald]

I must be missing context, idk what him missing that was supposed to mean?

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw A50 did you understand the video I posted? If yes, I have a hydra proposal for you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah that video (it’s specifically joking about how you and SB9 were out of sync)
And I was looking at the mod post more than yours tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

I just wondered if you recognized what game the video is of

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay piss off with the deflecting shit. I was greeted in this game with a wagon. Does that mean everything I push is a deflection? No, fuck off.
And like, sure it’s not really a likely scenario but I’m not interested in being told the odds rn. Right now is the time to go off wild ideas, rather than later when the results of the game are in the balance. Plus it also lets me see how norskee reacts. My feelings on that so far is that I think he’s trying to play it down in a suspicious way.

So what you're telling me is that you're not deflecting because you said so, you're just pushing wild fantasies because you wouldn't be able to do that in late game. Good to know.

I'm saying you're too eager to say I'm deflecting. It seems like you are taking most if not all my attempts to push people as deflecting. I didn't exactly get a clean lot for this game, mate.
And the "wild fantasy" isn't exactly something I'm treating as conclusive, as you can probably tell by me not voting norskee yet. I just wanted to press what looked possible, and see what happened.

[Gamma Emerald]

And the "wild fantasy" isn't exactly something I'm treating as conclusive, as you can probably tell by me not voting norskee yet. I just wanted to press what looked possible, and see what happened.

What if this is a 10 scum game?? Have you considered this angle???
It's dumb to press things that are clearly wrong yet technically possible. When you do it it looks like you're grasping at straws. Add that with you having a wagon and of course it's a deflection. What I want you to do that I wouldn't call out as a deflection is to make contributions to the game which are actually valuable, find us scum, and case them. If you're not doing that you're deflecting.

The thing is, those wild guesses let me see how they respond. Things like 1625 tell me norskee is looking for technical outs that subvert the case without actually confronting it. Saying "oh I didn't even look at the videos" doesn't actually contradict me, it just sidesteps the point.
And if you expect me to write big cases you're gonna be disappointed, even when I have time I don't really like to do those. And my time is pretty limited rn. Beyond that you seem to be falling into the trap a lot of people fall into trying to read me, which is that you can't see where my contributions are, and what I'm doing to scumhunt. I ALWAYS get the same crap of "Gamma isn't solving/contributing/xyzzy", it's 100% not indicative of anything, except that the person doesn't know thing 1 about how I play.

[Gamma Emerald]

what Taylor said I guess. Also I read back a couple posts in the MM ISO to see if they'd expressed more about the claim and I think there's something I read past without responding to that I should have.

[Gamma Emerald]

And if you expect me to write big cases you're gonna be disappointed, even when I have time I don't really like to do those.

I don't want you to wallpost, I want you to find scum instead of trying to wring up Norway on technicalities. And did you just say you not scumhunting isn't AI?

I didn't say that. I said you're not seeing my scumhunting process, because you haven't played with me. Aside from that, fair enough I guess. There's probably other reasons to SR norskee but if I were to claim them as things I fully believed rn I'd be lying.

[Gamma Emerald]

To be fair, i would gladly switch to Ban Hydras if it became apparent interest in eliminating Gamma was dying.

VOTE: Ban Hydras
I've already expressed why I want to vote here, and I think now is the best time to do it.

[Gamma Emerald]

To be fair, i would gladly switch to Ban Hydras if it became apparent interest in eliminating Gamma was dying.

thats also a dumb wagon.

"oooh i dont like hydrae, therefore this hydra must be scum!!!"
"theyre posting too much!"
"they posted about language policing rather than whos scum this one time!"
"shut up loudmouth"

i feel like im decent at sorting the people in that hydra, and i feel like i can sort them as town here.

I think the best one I can read in it is Hop, and his posting is relatively inoffensive. However I think they're still a good vote because of what I've seen from the other two.

Let me put this out now, this will be expanded on later. I have 3 sets of "will vote" brackets in this game. One for scumreads, one for people who I don't townread and I think voting them out improves game health, and one that is the intersection between those two. Originally BH was in the second bracket listed there, but they've moved into the third at this point. I'll eventually put out where all of my scumread/acceptable votes our within this, but for now I'll say MM is in the scumreads that improve game health if they're eliminated, and Menalque is in the scumread only section.

[Gamma Emerald]

also why does the gamma wagon, as weak as it seems to be, have such longevity? this gamestate doesnt make sense to me if gamma is scum. here i go defending gamma. i guess i must be scum too. oops.

You are, and so am I.. and a couple more (I don't remember all of them, but I seem to remember DS expressing the same notion). And -by extension- my Mason buddies are also Scum (although I've been trying to convince sb to trust my TR on Gamma). Who else? I guess that's about it. 6-8 scums all on the same team.

seems like a pretty impressive scumteam. i think that theory about 10 scum might not be that far off.

I wanted to talk about this when I did get to detailing my overall reads, but now's as good a time. I do think I have a lot of people I am suspecting at this point, plus the people I just would vote to clear them out. Them all together at this point probably do amount to 10+ of the people in the game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Menalque is in the scumread only section.

do tell gamma, why am I scum

Your thing about "finally getting to vote me out" after Pokemon Ruby is stinky garbage, and does not come from a town perspective at all. You seem like scum who got excited at the prospect of getting revenge.

[Gamma Emerald]

are you high mate? I've just been saying I think you're suspicious

[Gamma Emerald]

then why make that post, even if you're joking? like, waht even

[Gamma Emerald]

It comes off as the circumstances of that game are replicated and you're happy to be able to vote me out this time rather than what happened the last time. That heavily suggests you are not town, and have reason to think I am.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's awkwardly justified because I expected to be pre-empted by a few votes, so I wrote that with that in mind.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what were the justifications btw? I couldn't find any specifics in your ISO.

~Buttercup

I don't like how you responded to a50's claim by suggesting it was fake, without even stating what alignment you thought a50 was given that
the post about the l-word didn't really feel like it was actually intended to do anything other than look helpful
And my well established desire to remove a slot that is actively causing the game to be longer than it should be

[Gamma Emerald]

It comes off as the circumstances of that game are replicated and you're happy to be able to vote me out this time rather than what happened the last time.

That heavily suggests you are not town, and have reason to think I am.

I don't see how it comes off that way at all, actually. How does it come off as that rather than me shitposting?

First off that's not the game I was thinking you were referencing when I did my own research, I thought you were referencing Pokemon Fusion UPick, where I was scum and lived til the end. The fact you referenced a game that wasn't as closely in the specified timeframe as the one I'd initially picked out made me think that the situation in Ruby had been replicated, which was you being scum who pushed me for awful reasons (my predecessor was playing to their "scum meta", a hard-to-defend-against position if one doesn't know the details), which also match up to what the push on me rn feels like (essentially I'm getting pushed for having avoided the game, which isn't really defensible because there's no way I can demonstrate that it wasn't because I was scum). Plus the way you said it just doesn't seem like you have good intentions.

[Gamma Emerald]

Normally a masontry is relatively relaxed and hive-mind ish.
But clearly A50 and Superbowl don't really agree with each other in the slightest.
It's actually making me townread them, if they were scum would they really put in this much theater?

I'm just bothered by the fact SB9 made the post right before this one. Why are you calling the hounds on your mason pal?

[Gamma Emerald]

the post about the l-word didn't really feel like it was actually intended to do anything other than look helpful

Can we please shut this line down asap. As previously stated, it has nothing to do with Flopz's role, and suggesting he's fabricating it due to a scum agenda is just, please no.

~Buttercup

I don't think there was any agenda with it. It just doesn't seem like it was meant to

do

anything. It's a decorative post.

[Gamma Emerald]

If it was it would lean towards that, it just feels like a scripted lecture

Like, it just seems like Flopz is trying to tell everyone off, the actual constructive thing imo would have been to try to be understanding and guiding

[Gamma Emerald]

If your point is I didn't comment on it until prompted, it's because I thought it was very obviously a fake/meme claim, which normally aren't important for determining alignment since memes are NAIish. I didn't realise Almo was expecting people to take it seriously and it was actually real.

If you're voting us out of survivalism, just say so, but trying to reason the vote with those reasons just makes me dislike you more.

~Buttercup

I'm not at the point where I'd vote for survivalism yet. And while I didn't expect norskee to have enough experience to see a50's claim for what it was, I do expect that from you for that and just you seeming like a similar player. The fact you missed the mark there despite being similar to a50 is not a good look at all.

[Gamma Emerald]

^but don’t you feel like this is a convo for post-game or another thread? You’re the #1 elim option for today, shouldn’t you have bigger fish to fry

Yeah that's fair, but when I'm asked about my reasons for my BH vote I am gonna mention that. I can't really save something for post-game if I'm constantly pressed on it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I do expect that from you for that and just you seeming like a similar player. The fact you missed the mark there despite being similar to a50 is not a good look at all.

This is so bad. What is the scum-motivation for me in faking to doubt Almo's claim? Almo and I sharing the trait of joking around does not mean I should magically be able to tell when he's being serious or joking.

~Buttercup

I can't say for certain if your doubt was real or fake, but either way it seems out-of-character for you.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Buttercup: Plus, I just now remembered I asked about this and didn't get an answer, why did you not press Titus or mastina for their mason claim when mastina fakes it all the time for questionable at best reasons?

[Gamma Emerald]

I really really don’t believe gamma’s “I have one proper scumread and it’s mena”

That's not what I fucking said at all

[Gamma Emerald]

PSA pickaxe pete has been playing terribly

What makes you say this? I don't think he's posted enough for this to make sense.

@Menalque still wrong. The fact you try to minimize me like that is not okay, either.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mena knows I tend to be LHF and pushed me anyway so I might vote there too.

I'm now curious why Mena doesn'y have more votes on him rn, I've seen a good amount of suspicion on him but from the time I came in he's seemed relatively unpopular as a wagon.

why does no one else dislike mastina's list like I do?

I dislike it because we're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low. anyone with any reasonable ration would give us town points for Blossom's excellent jokes

~Buttercup

Is this a real thing you expected from people?

Why, isn’t it little ol me, back from perry. Why you all look like a feathered whisper of a crew, a real hoot and a half.

this is probably scum tbh

I’d be posting way more if I were scum here, Menalque. Go check Animal U pick. I’ve read like nothing of this game. Bad time for me to have it start. I’m tryin to catch up.

I'm now interested in what the April case is/was because I remember that being a thing too and it hasn't really been clarified from what I've seen.

@Mena When I say you're minimizing me, I mean that you're attempting to reduce things down to something they're not. You're not my only scumread/person in that bracket, and I never said as much. You trying to suggest that is trying to make it look like I've done less than I have.
@Nero I'm a little surprised you're backing off, not sure what that does to my read on you yet.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also if gamma actually flips red yall are gonna have a lotttttttt of explaining to do

dont forget that youre scum with gamma, youre supposed to be defending him.

How funny would it be if the scumteam is Taylor, A50, gamma, and superbowl and taylor is getting pissed because superbowl is going off script and bussing gamma instead of trying to save him

Honestly I'd love to live in that world but sadly I don't

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. Honestly if that was genuine I would have changed my mind about you because I'd already stated Hopkirk's posting is actually decent and if you meant to point me that way I would have acted on that.

[Gamma Emerald]

no one seems to want to go for menal despite people stating scumreads.

guess I'm not the only one who noticed this
tbh I have felt like we've been in sync in a creepy way this game

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. Honestly if that was genuine I would have changed my mind about you because I'd already stated Hopkirk's posting is actually decent and if you meant to point me that way I would have acted on that.

...why would you choose not to act on it based on me pointing you that way or not? It shouldn't affect your read on it.

~Buttercup

Because you're essentially saying "read us off of Hopkirk" which would make me feel like you're more town than how I'm currently reading you. I guess the feelings still there but because it wasn't intended I'm feeling unsure about acting on it.

anyway I gotta feed my dog so pls don't post 10+ pages while I'm gone

[Gamma Emerald]

@Nero I'm a little surprised you're backing off, not sure what that does to my read on you yet.

not really backing off. Just stating that I gut scum read you and think you are pretty null.

your thing about me calling SB and a5 scum when they are hard claimed 3p is god awful though.

They're not 3P in a way that matters, though, or at least from what they've claimed. The fact you tried to suggest that and also suggest it was something worth pushing seems like you're scum based on your mindset towards 3Ps.

[Gamma Emerald]

I...am Overkill.

This is news to me

[Gamma Emerald]

did you.. see the posts i linked?

yes
did you see my post?
I already have a feeling I"m gonna tunnel you at some point
peddit: agree with morning. I'm null on mastina for now tho

oh oops
UNVOTE:

I've seen it posited in the past this failure to match your vote to your opinion is a scum tendency and from my own experience I think that's true

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh my god not this garbage.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay that was actually edited in, I thought I was gonna have another game where someone tried to make reading into putting additional formatting into quoted posts a

thing

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly, while Bell's posts were hard to peg down as town or scum either way, given my lack of familiarity for an indicator, my gun-to-head reading of Bell's posts was that, if I had to assign an alignment, scum, but I didn't have anything that really pinged me as truly scum-indicative until that series of posting.

The word salad is real.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay starting to read up again has not made me feel as good as I thought it would so I'll probably either jump to the next spot of posts I missed or just stop reading the giant chunks I haven't read yet.
I've gone like 4 pages without seeing much I feel like is helping me figure out what's going on this game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who exactly are the people who don’t want to go for me despite stating scumreads that gamma and Taylor are wittering on about

I can find this if this is a legitimate question

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Gamma thinking that you pointing to Hopkirk's posts is scummy makes no sense

I actually said the opposite, nice fucking try

[Gamma Emerald]

Ever since I starting expressing suspicions and the desire to get rid of MM they've constantly been throwing everything they can at me, it feels like. That ain't town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hmm

I'm not sure my new lazy playstyle is gonna work so well with large themes

I think I'm gonna need to parse everyone at the weekend

HOWEVER
VOTE: Menalque

come hang menalque

VOTE: menalque

it's a wagon

this is what I've seen up through page 30 or so just by using the thread search with the term "menalque". It's less than I thought but enough that the lack of momentum there concerns me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't really mind Tay fakeclaiming mason because I don't really see anything out of line with it, all I've gotten is that it was an attempt to cover for the real third mason. That seems like an odd risk for scum to take imo, but it's not strongly AI.

[Gamma Emerald]

Only two of those people retracted those reads and only half of MM scumreads me and they’ve just been talking about how they’re not interested in me on D1 despite the presence of a SR or the lack thereof

Okay yeah I might be making something out of nothing then.

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't really mind Tay fakeclaiming mason because I don't really see anything out of line with it, all I've gotten is that it was an attempt to cover for the real third mason. That seems like an odd risk for scum to take imo, but it's not strongly AI.

of course you didnt mind. yeah seems like a clever way to cover for the real third mason would be to claim mason and force them to counter-claim you

I don't think that's what she wanted though, even if she were scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Gamma thinking that you pointing to Hopkirk's posts is scummy makes no sense

I actually said the opposite, nice fucking try

Gamma do you want my help or not? That makes me feel better though, I am glad i was reading it wrong

Ever since I starting expressing suspicions and the desire to get rid of MM they've constantly been throwing everything they can at me, it feels like. That ain't town.

I have done nothing but see the positive side of you. why are you switching to attacking us over Ban Hydra ? That reasoning doesn't hold up at all

~Morning

I'm really not seeing how you've been trying to see the positive side of me. Though the response to my other post does kinda indicate that.
I feel like from the moment I started SRing your hydra both of your heads have been acting like I'm confscum or something. Maybe I'm wrong, I think my mind might honestly be slipping at this point, between the constant headache that's been developing and me pretty much talking out of my ass a bunch these past several pages.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I really need a place where I can ramble away from the thread so if anyone's a neighborizer please target me

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we flip this instead

VOTE: april

Choo choo?

I am open to this, though I recall something about April being the third mason

[Gamma Emerald]

The F-L A-V O-R LEAF

The only Leaf that brings the beef

never heard of you! but good to meet you

WHAT.

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda just proxy my vote for the rest of the day so I don't have to solve anymore

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm thinking mastina is town rn, her read list looks decent even if I am at the bottom of it

[Gamma Emerald]

also yeah I'm just gonna play in the now because I just tried it for a second there and it already felt way better.

[Gamma Emerald]

Are replacements not being tracked in the OP

Also I’m very concerned that TGP flipped his read after I noted what I did about him before

Based the fact I’ve been intented though, I should claim.
I’m a Novice Alien.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fucking kill Menalque ASAP
I was scum, but Menalque is still not fucking town

[Gamma Emerald]

also, you all can burn in hell for making this game a fucking shitshow

[Gamma Emerald]

You weren't that bad, I'm mostly talking to everyone who either hyperposted or goaded that on

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is Melanque scum? Third party or multiball?

Either is possible

[Gamma Emerald]

You weren't that bad, I'm mostly talking to everyone who either hyperposted or goaded that on

I thought you said you found us entertaining. Was that a lie

-Blossom

That changed when the game started giving me a headache.

[Gamma Emerald]

I also want TGP to answer for flipping on me with no reason to it

[Gamma Emerald]

If you had claimed scum earlier it would have been less of an headache for you

I would have if you'd run me up faster lol

[Gamma Emerald]

(I am genuinely sorry if this was an unpleasant experience for you)

thanks for this at least. I probably won't be bitter about this after the game ends but it stings that I pretty much got denied the ability to play

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma Last chance to explain Menalque scum.

His post about being happy to elim me today didn't feel like he thought I was scum
So I think he's some sort of opposing scum to me who thought I was town when he posted that

[Gamma Emerald]

it's a large team but still a size that I think makes it probable multiball. But I have seen a 4 man team in a 25 man game so take that for what it's worth.

[Gamma Emerald]

what is this "again" talking about -_-

[Gamma Emerald]

also, you all can burn in hell for making this game a fucking shitshow

haha fuck you, shut up and be dead man

im genuinely stoked we flipped scum Day 1 in this monstrosity

No, eat shit.

In addition, if you hate playing with Taylor so much, don't play with her rather than shitpushing her ever game you're in together.

[Gamma Emerald]

lol I like Taylor

this is horseshit, you've demonstrated nothing but a massive distaste for Tay from what I've seen

[Gamma Emerald]

btw sorry for fooling you a50

[Gamma Emerald]

I am baffled by why DDl is getting SRed when he's being the most protown I've ever seen him be

[Gamma Emerald]

SB definitely lead it not you Nero

[Gamma Emerald]

btw sorry for fooling you a50

But it's what the game is all about.

So.. "that tell" no longer applies??

Idk which tell you mean but maybe

[Gamma Emerald]

3 slots left in my Micro game, The Shape of Water. 8p, should be good.

Pls join his game so mine can enter sign ups as well

[Gamma Emerald]

no offense to pete, taylor, gamma and chemmist but they are are lurky and not very charismatic. When you are up against superstar Nero Cain and Titus and Mastina and good supporting charters like Norway, Bell and Shelly you are kinda behind from the start.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m sorry but that Nero post contains an UNHOLY amount of condescension and disrespect. I DEMAND an apology, or my joke in mini normal 2166 will take on whole new meaning.

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe we were “lurky” BECAUSE YOU MADE THIS GAME A HELLHOLE TO PARTAKE IN!!!! And calling your group “superstars” is so fucking arrogant. What sort of god complex do you have plaguing your mind that made that sound like an okay thing to say?

[Gamma Emerald]

The tone of that post just reeks of disregard for our abilities. Did you know I actually have an award on my homesite I earned for a strong scumgame? Maybe I should take some time to show you how I won it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like I’ll agree Titus and mastina made good on their reputations this game. I don’t think you have that sort of reputation, Nero.

[Gamma Emerald]

And the disrespectful part was calling the scumteam sans Mathblade uncharismatic. I have charisma, it just failed to kick in because town had already blocked together before I could do much about it.

I’m not mad I lost. I’m mad you’re acting like I never could have won.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah the public triple cop wasn’t great, it was hella restricted though in a way that made it insanely anti-scum

[Gamma Emerald]

N1 wasn’t our choice

[Gamma Emerald]

guess what I was