PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:57 am

In post 3312, Spiffeh wrote:Bell's not really one I want to consider any further today, I feel like if Bell were scum he would come up with a more useful thing to claim to ensure he survives the day? Especially with Flavor Leaf in his corner

this is just WIFOM spiffeh
why does Flavor Leaf as scum ever claim VT then?
Bell and co can fakeclaim whatever he wants because it's fake and Flavor Leaf and co KNOW we will try and WIFOM and read into it
i'd be even more doubtful if Bell came out with something super strong - you gotta remember that someone claiming a strong PR means they're suddenly 50% scum just based on mech alone
because only scum and the few strong PRs in the game claim strong PRs
but at the end of the day ignore the claim wine and read the player for their actions

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:25 am

In post 3329, Spiffeh wrote:Ok yeah Toogeloo might be scum

he's voting for scum though
THUNDERNUKE

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:27 am

fair looking forward to the inrerview

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:27 am

INTERVIEW

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:38 am

In post 3374, Bell wrote:So the reason I wasn't solving was because solving could get me killed.
I don't have that restriction anymore.

I don't crumb. I suck at crumbs.
DBT actually town cased me and argued it was a scum case.
Give me like 4 hours to write this shit. I had a first aid class that got rescheduled.

why didn't Bell bring this up when he first claimed? because he just thought of it now
also this isn't true he was trying to solve
it was just fake solving which is why you can tell his Noraa confidence/read is fake

don't let yourself be swayed Mornings and Mistys!!!

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:39 am

In post 3380, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 3371, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 3365, Solstice wrote:[I believe what she's saying is that BM flipped town whereas Bell would be scum here -- so scum!Noraabear being concerned with the town!soft but ignoring the scum!claim is backwards.]
This isn't what I am saying, I am saying that if you are concerned about eliminating PRs you should be consistent with that, and Noraa isn't.
I trust hectic with my soul and vote.

-nornor

you're the best noraa
you just need to convince gloria to get your vote back on Bell at some point

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:41 am

In post 3370, Solstice wrote:
In post 3366, Solstice wrote:[I like Ircher's readslist lots]
agree on this one

and it's only mostly because the colors are pretty

~mist

i remember the first time i saw a Ircher readlist in a newbie game
he was scum but i'll never forget how much i loved it...

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:44 am

In post 3378, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 3377, Solstice wrote:[You worded it like this: "Why would creature scum ever defend Bell here?", so i did not realize your point was related to the nature of the defense rather than the defense itself, though.]
I think Bell's reaction to my case was emotional.
Creature I think is being strategic.
Strategically I don't think that hard defending a partner makes a lot of sense in either case.
I don't think Creature, strategically, defends Bell as a partner there.
I don't think Bell, strategically, defends Noraa as a partner in response to my case.
But Bell might have reacted emotionally if and only if (in my mind) Noraa is a partner.

But I think Bell is quite possibly just town now.

this is why Grumpy Cat abandoned you flareon
what about the "emotional reaction" is real to you?
try and quantify it because i read the "fuck it" vote on you as very fake
and then you engage with him over several more pages and you think he's still just being emotional about locktowning Noraa while you try and get him to actually read you case?
it can't be a spur of the moment dumb thought process when it's over hours and many pages
then it becomes a faked/unnatural thought process that he's not reevaluating because he's scum

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:46 am

In post 3381, Solstice wrote:[Ircher, Pichu, mastina, and Murdercatto are like my hardest townreads at the moment I think.]

have a look at the Bell wagon and see how many of those hard townreads are on it Morning
+Ydrasse which you've called your strongest townread
it's a very town-motivated wagon
only slimy vote was Toog's but we're entering bus territory so let them bus if that's the case

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:47 am

In post 3389, Bell wrote:Keep posting Pichu, you're gunna look real good post game.

L'esprit de l'escalier: His ego is so big it couldn't be contained in alter ego.
That's why he has so many alts.

i know i am :>

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:48 am

mhm like that makes any logical sense

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:50 am

In post 3151, pichu wrote:it's a whiteknight
not every scum action has to have clear and obvious motivation
most of the time they're just trying to get by with fake reads
in this case Bell's reads and takes are so fake they've spewed him as scum however

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:56 am

i know of the reason and it's not reasonable enough to justify his confidence

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:03 am

it's ongoing game stuff
shouldn't have been brought up in the first place tbh

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:04 am

oo leaf persona
i like that

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:05 am

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:07 am

In post 3201, Bell wrote:Anyway it is in my interest to figure out who the scum and town are.
Pichu read was fairly easy. His case on me only really affirms that. Though I will always add the disclaimer that he's supposedly really good scum so like, it will bite me in the ass one day and that day I will not be surprised.

Ydrasse is harder.

I don't agree that Ircher was towning it up D1 take by Pichu, I think he looks better today. Though, his votes not great.

In post 3393, Bell wrote:If he's not a mason btw, he is probably scum.

the first post indicate you TOWNREAD me
not that you just think pooky would pick me as a mason
so what's the latter post mean?

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:10 am

you're good at this wim thing despite everything i'll give you that
i'm gonna keep pushing you until i convince enough people though
pooky even declared a THUNDERNUKE and people aren't piling on
you're on L-3 i think now?
if anything that's indicative of a lot

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:12 am

yeah lol let's see how it pays off for him

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:14 am

nah you know there'd never be enough support if you tried to scumread and 1v1 me
this is probably the less sus option

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:16 am

In post 3419, Bell wrote:
In post 3413, pichu wrote:you're good at this wim thing despite everything i'll give you that
i'm gonna keep pushing you until i convince enough people though
pooky even declared a THUNDERNUKE and people aren't piling on
you're on L-3 i think now?
if anything that's indicative of a lot
This is more of that kinda stuff I was talking about.

Watch.

So I wasn't at L-3 until I almost got hammered By toog.
But you forgot.

"Pichh: WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE FACTS ARE"

(only Toogeloo voted you with the intention of listening to pooky - no one else has and you are now at L-3)

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:17 am

In post 3234, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
THUNDERNUKE BELL

it's actually just a dishonour and disgrace that so many are disobeying our god emperor soul mason here
i'm disgusted

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:19 am

In post 3425, Double the Trouble wrote:Bell you’re much better off being straight when engaging with me. Cus right now i just think you’re flailing.

- Norwee

fantastic job norwee
both you and Bell are now significantly more likely to be scum

how are people not gonna be convinced at this point

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:23 am

In post 3427, Bell wrote:This is just gunna keep happening this is the kind of interaction we have and why I didn't want to go back and keep having to pick over all the misunderstandings and assumptions and plain blips and misses you do when you case people as leaf persona. I still think you're town on the off chance you aren't a mason, I retract it because there's such a thing as bad play and then there's killing a detective while fake acting like a mason.

my case and the original reasons are airtight
"fake acting like a mason"
very untrue and also just a very anti town path of discussion you keep trying to lead me down

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:25 am

woah i don't remember saying that
maybe i was hacked

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:27 am

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:30 am

In post 3434, pichu wrote:
In post 3427, Bell wrote:This is just gunna keep happening this is the kind of interaction we have and why I didn't want to go back and keep having to pick over all the misunderstandings and assumptions and plain blips and misses you do when you case people as leaf persona. I still think you're town on the off chance you aren't a mason, I retract it because there's such a thing as bad play and then there's killing a detective while fake acting like a mason.
my case and the original reasons are airtight
"fake acting like a mason"
very untrue and also just a very anti town path of discussion you keep trying to lead me down

i'm actually half convinced the flavor leaf has advised Bell to keep bringing this mason thing up while trying to frustrate me so that i spew myself as non-mason/mason
because Bell is actually in the position where he can kinda get away with it

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:33 am

thanks

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:39 pm

In post 3495, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 3426, pichu wrote:
In post 3234, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
THUNDERNUKE BELL
it's actually just a dishonour and disgrace that so many are disobeying our god emperor soul mason here
i'm disgusted
*SPAMS GLORIAS DISC FURIOUSLY*
*whispers to hectic*
if I just erm drop my vote rn and then pretend it never happened, will u tell her I never did anything?

im considering just voting and dealing with Gloria later if this flips green.

Good plan?

-nornor

this is an excellent plan
i'll run interference and shitpost in the thread right after so she never sees the vote

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:41 pm

In post 3497, Bell wrote:Sorry final phase of job contract thing.
95% sure I got a job.

Back to reading and writing.

congrats!

In post 3498, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 3442, Bell wrote:You ever gunna let me get back to that reread?
Or are you both so hungry for control that you're afraid I'll obv town if I keep posting and solving and posting some more?
gotta give this point to bell. I slightly agree with this. This kind of gamestate is so very familiar to me cuz my death tunnels sometimes never disappear throughout an entire game. Sometimes everyone ignores me and that makes it slightly better. Depends.

I think Hectic is tunneled but if he's right, I won't say another word cuz that's great. If not, ig this is something we'll need to reflect upon as a whole.

-nornor

i'm scared Bell gets away because of his role claim
MURDERCAT Dunny Spiffeh have all expressed that opinion which terrifies me
i'll stop engaging with him about why i scumread him - we do have 8 days i suppose
i'll let the thread do it's own thing for a while

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:44 pm

In post 3465, Flavor Leaf wrote:Was Hectic scum in TvA? I vaguely remember doing a this is scum or this is scum, and I think hectic was the other this is scum. i just chose to go the other first?

I don’t remember.

I just remember solving that game Day 1.

lol is this an attempt to do some bad theatre
or are you trying to fire shots because i've got one of your leaves cornered against the hedge trimmer

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:52 pm

In post 3507, Flavor Leaf wrote:It was just genuine.

I doubt your hedge trimmer could reach the leaves, they’re pretty high up.

This was a shot fired, though ;P

i somehow doubt you didn't research the previous versus game that you yourself were in
my hedge trimmer has a ballista mechanism so i'll snipe them dw

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:58 pm

can you give a list ordered by priority of how much you wanted to pick them as scum?
i mean it's just WIFOM right so why not

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:00 pm

oh yeah i should've mentioned yesterday that not known 15 was almost never scum simply because he not charismatic at all (to put it bluntly, no offense meant) and loves doing his own thing without any regard for the consequences
i don't think flavor leaf ever picks someone like that who won't work for the team
didn't anticipate the hammer into vig shot though

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:01 pm

In post 3514, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3512, pichu wrote:can you give a list ordered by priority of how much you wanted to pick them as scum?
i mean it's just WIFOM right so why not
Bell?

I’ve never seen their scum game in a completed game where I was a player, but they were still in the top 50% to get picked based on their town work in Ilicit Substances and reading me correctly there.

lol that's not what i asked but sure
would you pick mastina? i hear you two don't gel together but you did fine in krazy's upick

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:10 pm

i kinda want to predict your priority pick list but i'd feel bad putting the final fourth in the final fourth
you've done well instilling some fight and WIM into Bell though
he's really fighting for this
eventually you'll need to tell him the bad news and get him to stop spewing more associations though

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:11 pm

i liked it better when the scum treestump got the first pick btw
i thought the wifom was more fun when it was like that rather than blade dancer picks two first

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:12 pm

ANYONE can be scum and there's nothing that can stop it from happening

pedit: it's pooky or ydrasse
calling it now

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:15 pm

i briefly Pine vs ??? (sorry to town treestump i have forgotten) and loved the amount of work mastina poured into wifom alone with her walls
Pine picked first so could've picked Nacho mastina or FATE and she spent hours and hours hypothesizing about it
it was fun to read lol

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:15 pm

*briefly read

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:21 pm

the warning's changed your tone huh
i know how you truly feel
full of MALICE and SPITE towards me

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:21 pm

i can't actually find that old versus game which is annoying me
send me a link pls mastina

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:23 pm

Subject: Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

mastina wrote:Hey.
VOTE: Nachomamma8.
Dead serious here.
I'm entering in a 1v1 with Nacho.

Like. If he flips town POWER lynch me here.

I was informed that role assignment wasn't random this game.
Pine knows me to be a stellar scum player and not quite as strong a town player, yet I wasn't one of his picks for the scumteam.
But unless I massively misunderstood the game's nature: Pine did in fact get a choice in at least ONE scumbuddy, if not all three. (Something about a draft order.)
He didn't select me.

I refuse to believe he allowed both me and Nacho to be town.
So lynch me, lynch Nacho, doesn't matter who you lynch first but Nacho is scum.
Guaranteed.

lol nvm i found it

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:24 pm

In post 3533, Ydrasse wrote:i’m full of love and warmth and no one ever recognizes that,

it radiates like the sun this game
it's why everyone's got you as obvtown

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:25 pm

please no not NORWEE
i've heard about the things he does to babies

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:28 pm

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:31 pm

i don't like this

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:37 pm

In post 3544, Double the Trouble wrote:You won't have to worry about him as long as you answer my questions

NOW TALK
Who dun it

...who dun what?
norwee made me feel uncomfortable

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:38 pm

norwee openwolfing and openweirding up and down the thread with that emoji

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:38 pm

In post 3545, Flavor Leaf wrote:You might not realize it, but I’m about 95% sure I know how you work more than anyone else on site.

who is this directed towards?

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:39 pm

mhm don't try to blame alisae for this norwee

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:41 pm

In post 3555, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3552, pichu wrote:
In post 3545, Flavor Leaf wrote:You might not realize it, but I’m about 95% sure I know how you work more than anyone else on site.
who is this directed towards?
You.

Same probably goes for Alisae as well, but I’m sure they know it.

i mean you did mod and watch me play my second ever scumgame but that was a LONG TIME ago
i'm a much different player now
the time i was nicholai in that normal game with you was fun

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:43 pm

Whodunit dun it
pedit wtf anything but that you need to hold him back i'm begging you

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:45 pm

oh you leave spaces between your lines now mastina
2016!you didn't bother

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:48 pm

In post 3562, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3556, pichu wrote:
In post 3555, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3552, pichu wrote:
In post 3545, Flavor Leaf wrote:You might not realize it, but I’m about 95% sure I know how you work more than anyone else on site.
who is this directed towards?
You.

Same probably goes for Alisae as well, but I’m sure they know it.
i mean you did mod and watch me play my second ever scumgame but that was a LONG TIME ago
i'm a much different player now
the time i was nicholai in that normal game with you was fun
Sure, I took a 6 month break this year, but I’ve seen. You’re still you, an evolved you, and you aren’t the first new player I’ve seen evolve over time.

Was that Nicholai game the one I hard defended a misfade and power tunneled scum Nomnom? Then eventually it got to late game, and Auro and I townblocked?

I’ve had a really strong town year this year. Only 2 losses, I think, and even then, one of them I had the solve, scum just played the game well, and the other I got a scum Vig shot.

glad you're back honestly - you make the site a lot better and a lot more fun
that is the game yeah
wish i'd lived past night 1 since watching the krazy/ank/you stuff unfold was interesting

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:49 pm

In post 3563, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 3559, pichu wrote:Whodunit dun it
pedit wtf anything but that you need to hold him back i'm begging you
Thats it
Norwee, do your worst

norwee doesn't have the norwees to go through with it

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 pm

i wish the treestumps had votes for the extra wifom
alisae driving up wagons in the last one was fun

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:57 pm

In post 3568, Creature wrote:Oh mastina is here. Sadly bringing nothing that will help town.

is creature just always like this in his games now?
i actually can't tell if the negativity and pessimism is faked or if this is just Creature

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:13 pm

spam spam SPAM

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:16 pm

hey Gloria if you see this i think you should go to page 29 and read that in full
there's a crumb there about my role that i spelled out in emojis

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:17 pm

you can't tell me what to do norwee
you're not my norwee

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:26 pm

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:10 pm

guys one of these detective claims is fake
see if you can figure out which one

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:12 pm

In post 3652, mastina wrote:It's faked.

I've played with Creature even post-degradation from his play.

This is it as scum.

idk i've seen him like this as town as well which is the annoying thing
hence why i think it's nai
the constant whining about people needing to do more and his takes themselves - like the scumreads on you/spiffeh are scummy though

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:06 pm

In post 3688, Double the Trouble wrote:i didn't hammer you yet snoopy

he knows

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:08 pm

In post 3700, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:pichu do you think bell's wim/ate/walling is out of his scumrange yet?

i really don't
he brought up ongoing games so i'll do the same
it's nothing i haven't seen from bell!scum already
i mean the CC is evidence enough at this point

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:09 pm

In post 3703, Double the Trouble wrote:this is weird because im starting to like bell :/

oh no
what are you doing
you believe there's two detectives in the game?

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:19 pm

In post 3712, Polar Bear Express wrote:Put ur damn faith in Hectic if ur town.

Pooky is .... half here. Half in drunken world. Did I guess right?

-nornor

<3

alisae did you know that 70% of players falling for fake hammers are scum faking it or not knowing for sure and pretending to believe it's a hammer anyway?
town usually have some amount of doubt or bother to check
also 50% of the facts you see in this pichu post are fabricated
but yes the reaction is very fake and the AtE still reads very fake to me
there are not two detectives in this game - that is very very unlikely
there are a multitude of reasons to think Bell is scum (see case) and his fakeclaim was just CCed
what more evidence do you need?

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:20 pm

not great when you're not helping us get Bell my spiffeh

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:43 pm

In post 3720, Solstice wrote:
In post 3708, pichu wrote:
In post 3703, Double the Trouble wrote:this is weird because im starting to like bell :/
oh no
what are you doing
you believe there's two detectives in the game?
[That's easily more likely than scum accidentally claiming the one obscure PR town has left, don't you think? Do you disagree that FL could have caused town to have identical PRs?]

[Am i insane for finding it weird that this scenario is occuring? Is Detective a more common PR than i make it out to be?]

~Morning

no no no
one scenario is there is one duplicated town role in this game which is unusual on it's own
Bell happens to exactly have that town role
OR Bell fakeclaimed a role which overlaps with the many town roles in this game
it's so much more likely he just got CCed rather than happens to have an unlikely duplicate

what am i missing here?

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:50 pm

want do you mean it's the only role that could have been counter claimed?
flavor leaf can influence the setup but we don't know how he did
i don't understand what you're saying

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:52 pm

is he actually hammered?

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:54 pm

In post 3743, Ydrasse wrote:

go go go!!!!

i'm not in this

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:56 pm

hello is that an xd i see?
look what you've driven this man to do Ydrasse

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:58 pm

solstice you should vote Bell just in case he isn't hammered
there's 4 scum in this game so there's gonna be more than just detective on top of other roles we know of

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:59 pm

don't say yes Bell
she lures you in and then that's when the flamethrower comes out

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:00 pm

nice! happy to hear that Bell

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:05 pm

i'm a big fan of Bell even though he's scum

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:05 pm

wait what you should've just said you were town 50 pages ago dude wtf

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:06 pm

In post 3778, Ydrasse wrote:pichu wouldn’t lead me astray right?

absolutely

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:08 pm

woah Ircher wall out of nowhere
jumpscared me

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:09 pm

Bell's on L-1 btw

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:12 pm

mhm you thought masons were town theatering like this sure thing

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:17 pm

In post 3793, Ydrasse wrote:svs hard buddy bus

hard 1v1 pocket

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:25 pm

Morning we don't know how many masons there are
a 17 player game probably has like 7 town PRs
so let's say there's 2 masons + 1 doc + 1 vig
that's still room for 3 other town PRs
Bell happened to claim one of them - it's not THAT unlikely

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:25 pm

13 player normal games have like 5 PRs so no that isn't an exaggeration

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:27 pm

Bell openly hypothesizing about Ydrasse and i being masons is so so scummy and anti town
he only does this as scum thinking he'll get town points for the boldness

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:27 pm

ok sorry i'll stop now
pichu used Sunny Day

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:57 pm

oh no lol
Dunny must be third impostor i think
probably town

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:01 pm

SPIFFEH on the other hand has reacted very suspiciously imo
he was very excited to see my case but then stopped posting for quite a while right after i dropped it
safer for scum to see how the rest of the thread reacts before taking a stance on it
the main thing he's done today is push Creature for not posting/efforting more and i'd expect a lot more in solving and reads honestly from him

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:03 pm

oh spiffeh
well this is awkward
i didn't realise you were behind me...
i was just talking about how awesome you are

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:10 pm

In post 3427, Bell wrote:This is just gunna keep happening this is the kind of interaction we have and why I didn't want to go back and keep having to pick over all the misunderstandings and assumptions and plain blips and misses you do when you case people as leaf persona. I still think you're town on the off chance you aren't a mason, I retract it because there's such a thing as bad play and then there's killing a detective while fake acting like a mason.

In post 3689, Bell wrote:Solve is as follows:

Mason: Pichu, if not mason eliminate for the holes in his pushes and his bullshit. He tried to speed eliminate here and it was just bad play all around. This is in part why I also pushed MC for Noraa. I had info it wasn't accessible. I tried to appear lackadaisical didn't work.
Detective was a role that got more powerful as it happened.

DBT pretty much open wolfed scum cased.

Dunstral was odd around Nk15, but I couldn't write about it.

ahem
first post i'm still town if not Mason
second i should be power elimmed if not Mason
need to remember your stances better Bell

pichu · Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:15 pm

pichu used Deep Slumber

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:08 am

oooor Bell you contradicted yourself because you're scum lazily fabricating thought processes rather than them being real ones
you're kind of scumcasing yourself now

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:44 am

(at the very least contradicting yourself like that in the same post is scum-indicative because it's a lot easier to slip up when you're exhausted and the take is fake rather than when you're exhausted and the take is real)

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:47 am

In post 3780, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
hard-leashing vig to dunn-spiff-noraa for possible shots

would be good if you tell us who out of those 3 are like baddies.

upon Bell redflip:
Dunny probably town
spiffeh very possibly scum - good shot
Polar Bear hydra - Gloria's continued absence is still creeping me out
@Gloria: are you not feeling this game in particular, and why?

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:53 am

occam's razor though it's more like Bell is whitenighting over doing some Galaxy brain weird hard buddy on a scum partner - scum usually aren't so bold to do that
i advocate a spiffeh shot for how he's not really taken a stance on Bell other than saying my case is valid
and his main take today has been pushing Creature for lack of content

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:55 am

In post 3312, Spiffeh wrote:Bell's not really one I want to consider any further today, I feel like if Bell were scum he would come up with a more useful thing to claim to ensure he survives the day? Especially with Flavor Leaf in his corner

oh this was a stance
very iffy
disregarding all the reasons to think Bell is scum just because of some WIFOM?
very unDonnie-like

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:57 am

agreed

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:28 am

In post 3867, Spiffeh wrote:I still think it's unlikely Bell flips scum lol

What does that do to your preflip associatives guys?

upon Bellgreenflip:
you look a little better
Dunnstral looks a lot worse
Dunny should probably be shot
Bell won't flip green though

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:29 am

In post 3874, Spiffeh wrote:If Bell is claiming Tracker and DEB is claiming regular old cop then this is PERFECTLY REASONABLE PAIR OF INVESTIGATIVES ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SCUM POWER THERE IS

I don't know why the fuck DEB would claim here without a guilty unless he is also a Tracker

how did you make this mistake
where did tracker/cop come from?

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:30 am

In post 3894, Spiffeh wrote:Bell is probably scum and should be the vote for today

excellent take
need to ask what changed your mind though

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:31 am

In post 3895, Spiffeh wrote:Like I highly doubt Titus puts the same exact town investigative role itg

oh
yes this is true
question about how you missed the two detective thing and thought it was tracker/cop stands though

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:35 am

lol
very iffy
or should i say SPIFFY

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:06 am

MURDERCAT
you believe there's 1 scum in Bell/DEB
it makes much less sense for scum!DEB to CC town!Bell
so what's up with you wanting to keep Bell alive

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:07 am

spiffeh why did you read of all the talk of a detective CC and not bother to search it up on the wiki or in this game for what exactly people meant
or just ask if you thought detective meant blanket investigative

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:12 am

In post 3921, Spiffeh wrote:Would you like to denounce the vig shot on me now?

I think it would go a long way in helping town not throw the game!

i'm not sure
who do you advocate of the other two?
i still believe you're the best shot but will be back later to reconsider stuff

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:06 am

In post 3312, Spiffeh wrote:Bell's not really one I want to consider any further today, I feel like if Bell were scum he would come up with a more useful thing to claim to ensure he survives the day? Especially with Flavor Leaf in his corner

spiffeh spiffeh
what did you mean by more useful claim than detective when you didn't know what that was
SUPPOSEDLY

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:11 am

SPIFFEH

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:12 am

maybe
you are fun to keep around

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:17 am

let me THINK about it when i'm free later and can reread later
i have a bad habit of posting while not exactly free

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:47 am

In post 3874, Spiffeh wrote:If Bell is claiming Tracker and DEB is claiming regular old cop then this is PERFECTLY REASONABLE PAIR OF INVESTIGATIVES ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SCUM POWER THERE IS

I don't know why the fuck DEB would claim here without a guilty unless he is also a Tracker

ok rereading i'm starting to buy you're actually just completely uninformed and bamboozled town spiffeh
and honestly i do agree with your read on creature
but can you just explain where you got the idea Bell claimed tracker from?
you say "unless he is also a tracker" which implies you think Bell claimed tracker somewhere and aren't just stating it as a hypothetical
i don't think tracker has been mentioned anywhere in this game?

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:52 am

cool!
i believe it
i don't think spiffeh should be the vig shot
DENOUNCED
honestly i want creature to be it

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:48 pm

In post 4014, Ircher wrote:Honestly not sure what pichu is trying to accomplish talking to the scum treestump. It's all WIFOM, and Flavor Leaf didn't even give clear answers... SO it just ends up cluttering up the thread.

for fun ya know
also i guarantee you i’ll catch at least one scum based off of the D3 reactions to the D2 Flavor Leaf WIFOM and clutter

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:50 pm

In post 4010, Ydrasse wrote:bells in black by himself to avoid associating him w anyone

this is why you should've drafted Ydrasse as scum Flavor Leaf
she sees right through you

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:51 pm

i am very sure pooky
i've seen so many thought processes which i simply don't think come from town
trust me on this one

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:52 pm

In post 4030, Ydrasse wrote:he’s gotten a new job and filled with vigor for life pooky

that energy has to go somewhere

using his JOB against him

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:53 pm

i'm going to join under a secret alt so no one knows it's me

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:54 pm

In post 4031, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like I don't think bell would even care that much about living if he was a red role pm.

he'd just be like

"ok you guys got me"

you'd be surprised actually
Bell doesn't give up as scum in his scumgames

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:56 pm

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:56 pm

sorry for the jumpscare

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:57 pm

perfect so we can overlap with team mafia

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:06 pm

In post 4055, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4052, pichu wrote:perfect so we can overlap with team mafia
with a combination of the deadlines being short (They're probably being extended to 96 - 120 hour days)
I don't think there should be any overlap. At the latest I imagine the game to wrap up just about when team mafia starts.

oh cool blitz is fun

is it bad that mickey mouse reminds me of spiffeh now

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:08 pm

it had to be done ali
i was prepping for the classic ircher post

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:12 pm

if this was town!Bell he wouldn't be doing all the scummy things he's been doing
i don't really know how to answer the question because i just see so much of how he's played this game was very scummy

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:12 pm

In post 4066, Ydrasse wrote:pichu steals everything from me

can i borrow some money

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:14 pm

i'm going to pay all that back WITH interest
i'm just taking special care to make all the money lovingly homemade

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:18 pm

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:18 pm

In post 4083, Bell wrote:I'm lying of course.

sheep this read

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:20 pm

In post 4084, Ydrasse wrote:STOP IT

STOP STEALING FROM ME YOURE NEVER GETTING ANOTHER IMAGE AGAIN

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:27 pm

Bell was so sweet and charming but then he adopted the dark side and thought AtE was a good strat
at least people will know you do it in your next scum game so you don't have to fake it!

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:31 pm

the classic reverse pocket meuniere

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:39 pm

i think therefore i am

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:40 pm

i think i am therefore i

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:40 pm

i think am i therefore

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:47 pm

Gloria!
how much have you read
got any spicy takes for us?

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:59 pm

In post 4123, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think bell's town

the ate is so deep

he cant ate this hard when he's scum right?

he can and he is
and he's done it as scum before
this is why AtE is overpowered it almost always works
you have to stay strong and see through it my soul mason!

i had an almost 8 hour conversation with him as i pushed him in forest fire pooky and he remained calm and almost SMUG that i was wrong about him
here he jumped DIRECTLY to AtE and being defensive/very annoyed with me
his emotion is town is a lot more subtle and real
here's it's over the top and faked
i'm really confident on this

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:01 pm

In post 4121, Dr Easy Bake wrote:What the hell are you talking about?

i therefore think am i

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:04 pm

pooky noooo

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:06 pm

throw my reads in the garbage if bell flips town
BoP me to the sinnoh region and call me Raichu
but i REALLY think Bell flips scum for the original case reasons + the CC + this AtE doesn't even read real to me in many parts
should i start casing the AtE?
it feels wrong but...

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:17 pm

In post 3770, Bell wrote:Can you guys kill me now or can I try to solve and look amazing before dying.

Man, imagine if I had bad reads though.
That would suck. It's not even that improbable.

highlighted reads as very fake

In post 4107, Bell wrote:I'm thinking about the WK15 votes early and whether scum would be apathetic about low hanging fruit. Or were kept off by Ircher.
I'm thinking about DBT's interactions with them, the null read into the null read.
I'm thinking about Mastina that kept them in the middle as something to sort around.

I'm thinking about Pichu, Noraa, Ydrasse, Pooky, and Bake whoever else totally ignored their existence and never said a word about them.

so much THINKING and no conclusions or takes

In post 3263, Bell wrote:Dude, stop it.
I thought he was out of the way.
You want to talk about better play?
Look in the mirror if you're town.
But I doubt it at this point.

In post 3453, Bell wrote:This feels really fucking familiar.
Is this the part why I'm supposed to unvote you and we're supposed to get along again.
But really you're desclating because I'm going to get you dead now or later and this is your attempt to push me to a breaking point before resocializing me.

Because I've done this as scum.
It works good imo.

these two posts especially read as very faked to me

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:17 pm

i see through it Bell

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:23 pm

In post 3447, Double the Trouble wrote:Just like i said with BM.
What’s stopping you from re-reading? Just ignore Pichu and do it.

- Norwee

In post 3449, Bell wrote:
In post 3447, Double the Trouble wrote:Just like i said with BM.
What’s stopping you from re-reading? Just ignore Pichu and do it.

- Norwee
Jesus christ, do I look like I respond to pressure?
Didn't you just accuse me of flailing make up your fucking mind.

In post 3450, Bell wrote:well

In post 3451, Bell wrote:Also, I distinctly remember asking for a reprieve and you both fucking pushed me to a cliff.

In post 3452, Double the Trouble wrote:Why are you so angry, like it’s just a game.
And apparently i’m scum in your mind so doesn’t that mean i’m doing a good job pushing you.

- Norwee

In post 3453, Bell wrote:This feels really fucking familiar.
Is this the part why I'm supposed to unvote you and we're supposed to get along again.
But really you're desclating because I'm going to get you dead now or later and this is your attempt to push me to a breaking point before resocializing me.

Because I've done this as scum.
It works good imo.

In post 3454, Bell wrote:Skip.

oh god just read this interaction
Bell's anger is just so forced and over the top
Norwee PUSHES him for said anger and questions why he isn't just rereading and ignoring me
Bell pretends to interpret that as Norwee DEESCALATING and goes on that weird "are we supposed to get along now" tangent
n o n o n o

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:38 pm

i did! have a look

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:43 pm

In post 3681, Double the Trouble wrote:VOTE: Bell

In post 3684, Bell wrote:I was town. Detective.

In post 3685, Bell wrote:best of luck Pooky.

the only reason to state your role and alignment after you see a fake hammer is to let people know you're falling for the fake hammer
town don't react to what they think is a hammer like this

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:44 pm

In post 4155, Bell wrote:Pichu.
It's called fight or flight.

has flavor leaf injected you with some WIM steroids this game?
people are actually reevaluating because you're efforting so hard to get out of this
i gotta hand it to you

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:47 pm

so you didn't think that was a hammer?

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:48 pm

then why did you pretend to?

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:51 pm

my god Bell is admitting to fake-falling for a fake hammer and then trying to spin it as him being town fearing for his life
please do not buy the too scummy to be scum act
scum has SO much more motivation to pretend to fall for a fake hammer than town does
Bell is admitting to it because he loves going for the bold too scummy to be scum schtick
it's the same deal with mason casing people

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:54 pm

In post 4159, Bell wrote:
I will not ever fake react to a a vote I know is a fake hammer.

I felt I was cornered and that votes would pile on from there.

these statements are also contradictory?
"i wouldn't fake react to a fake hammer"
"i fake reacted to a fake hammer because i felt cornered"

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:57 pm

hopefully this is enough
the disadvantage to high WIM/effort is Bell is sloppily admitting to doing scummy things/lying when he really shouldn't be while also slipping up and contradicting himself in posts
this really isn't a hard read

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:01 pm

ON TOP OF THE WORLD
sorry Bell
i told you i was really confident when i made the case and i'm like 99% confident now

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:05 pm

Ydrasse - town
Bell - scum

i will beat pokemon yellow using only a pichu if i'm wrong about either of these two reads

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:06 pm

wait what

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:07 pm

oh shit you're right
i meant Pokémon gold

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:11 pm

i played heart gold when it came out and then soul silver 9 years later
very fond memories
time to return and show them the level 100 pichu they were missing out on

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:15 pm

i stopped playing after black/white 2 which were great
i think i played a little of x/y but idk i didn't have the motivation to finish it
i agree soulsilver was probably peak

pichu · Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:16 pm

they need to bring Obsidian in to make a Pokémon game

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:57 am

i am right and you'll feel much better when you see Bell flip red
the reason he's contradicting himself and slipping now is because he's playing like he has nothing to lose
(because he doesn't!!!)

@Solstice: you really need to start using that razor occam gave you
if it looks like scum thinks like scum and acts like scum - it's just scum and not town making REALLY weird plays

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:59 am

hey Bell
how do you read Creature and would you vote for him

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:05 am

In post 4208, Solstice wrote:
In post 4150, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4132, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4129, Polar Bear Express wrote:Can you link some Bell scumgames for me?
i played with bell in antechamber and epilogue and both times he was very uncomfortable and low effort as scum.
So you think this is scum indicative for him? Yeah, I think that kind of fits with what we’re seeing here.
[That doesn't fit with what we're seeing here, what??]

[Eh. Awkward yeah, low effort no. He's going through the motions of bringing up how BM/NK15 interactions are really important to his solve and has also vowed to high effort for the next 6 days. I don't really know what the point for him to do that as scum is since he's very clearly dead here.]

[although he hasn't delivered on much of the solve -- that's why I keep harping on him for reads. At first I was more understanding cause I hate giving reads on players I haven't evaluated.]

[...but i can do it. very easily as town. Cause i know i can change em later and it's whatever. I take way more time as scum cause my thought process just isn't as deeply ingrained into my mind, im too busy worrying about other stuff, i care about how it comes off etc etc etc. Bell repeatedly refusing to give us his toilet paper reads becomes less and less believable every time he says it]

Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4206, Solstice wrote:[I have never seen town fake-react to a fake hammer, just seen scum fake-react a small handful of times. So is this a first for me, orrr]
why should town be fake-reacting to a fake hammer in the first place?
[I have no clue. Technically you could justify it because it in theory gives you greater chances of living if it's bought, and living is good for townies too. In practice, that's a terrible idea because you're lying and generally people are trying to find liars, so when you do a fake reaction to a hammer, it tends to make you look worse.]

[Bell then shortly after clarifying he wouldn't fake react to a hammer he knows is fake, despite that being what he literally just did, is just.. alright then...]

[I can technically see a townie justifying a desperate play like that in their mind, sure. Subsequently admitting they would never do that like they're going through some kind of cognitive dissonance.... okay. there's a certain point where town!Bell can't really blame us.]

[Idk. Overall this is a lot different from what I expected from scum!Bell. But that can maybe be explained by him trying something new, something flaily and all over the place with a bunch of emotions. something that is sure to get me at least]

[I am pretty much basing my read (at this point) off of Bell's behaviour knowing he's going to die -- since there is no scum motivation to solve when he knows it doesn't save his life -- and what does he do? he doesn't even give readsssss. Oh Bell... why must you do this?]

~Morning

does this mean you still read Bell as town despite everything
the thing you're basing your read on is on a false premise
Pooky himself has said he thinks Bell is town and there's a perfectly viable counterwagon in Creature
Bell does not KNOW he's going to die - many have advocated he live for at least a day
he's fighting because he thinks he has a chance
Bell contradicting himself in the same post is not town!Bell going through some really unlikely and weird cognitive dissonance - it hard to do that when it's honest thoughts
the far more likely explanation is that scum!Bell is slipping up while faking those thoughts

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:11 am

alright alright
i just worry you know
it would break my heart if he got away today after everything

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:02 am

your vote will be put to excellent use!

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:55 pm

In post 4253, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4166, pichu wrote:
In post 4159, Bell wrote:
I will not ever fake react to a a vote I know is a fake hammer.

I felt I was cornered and that votes would pile on from there.
these statements are also contradictory?
"i wouldn't fake react to a fake hammer"
"i fake reacted to a fake hammer because i felt cornered"
I noticed this also.
Pichu, soul masons?
*gets out the contract*

-nornor

SOUL MASONS

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:55 pm

In post 4255, Toogeloo wrote:Pichu, where would your vote be if it weren't on Bell?

probably Creature tbh
him being a counterwagon to scum!Bell is strange though

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:56 pm

In post 4330, Solstice wrote:[we should]

~Morning

why over Bell?

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:59 pm

In post 4336, Double the Trouble wrote:pichu have u read 4305

i had not
it makes very sad
i really do not think it's worth killing a very likely town detective just so the vig can shoot scum!Bell
aAaAAaAAAaaaa

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:01 pm

In post 4338, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:PIIIIIICHUUUUUUUUU

like Creature is definitely LHF town-town - literally everybody wants him dead.

there is no universe he flips red.

some kind of strong players are saying it's his scum meta and he's scummy
but i agree that he's LHF nowadays even as town
i'm so focused on Bell i haven't been trying much to find other scum
just trying to rally votes, even if it comes from bussers

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:02 pm

In post 4342, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4339, pichu wrote:i had not
it makes very sad
i really do not think it's worth killing a very likely town detective just so the vig can shoot scum!Bell
aAaAAaAAAaaaa

DEB is so shady thoooo

idk the way he gave Bell the benefit of the doubt and checked with everyone if two detectives was outrageous first seemed towny to me

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:05 pm

i mean it's possible DEB is ALSO scum
would be pretty hilarious but i don't believe in it
the way Bell has reacted by super efforting doesn't seem to line up with it since FL and co probably assume one of them dies due to CC/dupe role stuff
so the play isn't to make DEB look good when Bell flips scum - not when Bell is fighting so hard to stay alive
assuming Bell!scum i reckon DEB is town

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:06 pm

In post 4346, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4344, pichu wrote:
In post 4338, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:PIIIIIICHUUUUUUUUU

like Creature is definitely LHF town-town - literally everybody wants him dead.

there is no universe he flips red.
some kind of strong players are saying it's his scum meta and he's scummy
but i agree that he's LHF nowadays even as town
i'm so focused on Bell i haven't been trying much to find other scum
just trying to rally votes, even if it comes from bussers
who's bussing bro

i'm not gonna say now and discourage them from voting Bell

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:14 pm

In post 4351, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4345, pichu wrote:idk the way he gave Bell the benefit of the doubt and checked with everyone if two detectives was outrageous first seemed towny to me

A) that sounds like scum checking their exit plan to make sure people are open minded when bell flips town detective.

B) crumb timing on D2 after bell takes pressure makes more sense as scum pre-empting a claim by using rolecop info. If he was a real detective he should've crumbed on D1

C) His actual crumb doesn't look like it was written by him - word choice, sentence structure does not match with rest of ISO, strongly suspect Flava Flav wrote that crumb after original crumb was deemed "unsatisfactory".

D) This is exactly the kind of gambit Flava Flav loves pulling. Nothing Bell has done feels like it was coached by Flava Flav.

i see your points and the theory is interesting
my counterargument of course would be that Bell is obvscum and has been scumspewing for a while now and will flip scum
regarding point B though - don't you think he could've just got away with a crumbless claim?
the timing of it and being on d2 right after Bell comes under pressure actually makes it look more sus
like for most people crumbs don't mean a lot anyway so why even bother doing it if it's so late

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:15 pm

In post 4353, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4351, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:D) This is exactly the kind of gambit Flava Flav loves pulling. Nothing Bell has done feels like it was coached by Flava Flav.
Flavor Leaf likes trading 1 scum for 1 town detective for no reason when he has a night kill and the doctor is dead?
Idunno bro

^this is a very good point pooky
Bell was under a lot of suspicion even after the detective claim and there were no counterwagons
scum!DEB does not need to CC when Bell's death was marked anyway and risk town doing a trade

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:21 pm

In post 4361, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4333, pichu wrote:
In post 4255, Toogeloo wrote:Pichu, where would your vote be if it weren't on Bell?
probably Creature tbh
him being a counterwagon to scum!Bell is strange though
Are you saying you scumread both of them? What are the odds of having two scumwagons?

i scumlean Creature and super uber ultra scumread Bell
odds depend on how flavor leaf has wanted to play the day out
i'll think about it harder after Bell is dead (hopefully)

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:25 pm

you know too many people in this game feel towny now
i think like 2 scum are playing very well probably

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:26 pm

can we haggle about this pooky
what will it take
what about 5 great balls and 7 rare candies

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:48 pm

:[
ftr if DEB does actually get launched today and flips scum:
the vig should still 100% be shooting Bell
Bell is scum irrespective of all this claim stuff because of his content and takes and AtE all being obvscum
I TRUST YOU TO KILL BELL VIG
(if he escapes today)

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:51 pm

yeah i agree with you i think DEB is town
but if DEB does flip scum i'd much sooner believe this is some weird gambit over what Bell has done this game coming from town

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:58 pm

eh i disagree just based on my read there
anyways the order should be Bell->DEB and never DEB->Bell
i'm sorry Pooky but i really really disagree with you on Bell
i'll make some propaganda posters advocating why we should be thundernuking him

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:01 pm

who would you vote for if not Bell Gloria?

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:00 pm

In post 4419, Solstice wrote:[Understood, Bell]

VOTE: Bell

~Morning

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In post 4423, Solstice wrote:
MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 4418, Solstice wrote:[what are you even talking about Noraa]

[Murder hasn't done that a single time]

[And even then that doesn't justify voting for Murder before the player you think is confirmed scum]

~Morning
Do you see why I SR this now?
[Noraa can live in alternate universes as town too. Especially when we're talking OMGUS.]

[But yes, I understand -- her responses to you have been pretty consistent with this]

[Bell has more votes than i thought hold on]

UNVOTE:

~Morning

:[

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Noraa!
Gloria's gone
now's the perfect time to move back on Bell

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:01 pm

I'M SO HAPPY!!!!
join us to make me ELATED

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:01 pm

omg you two are the best

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:02 pm

Double trouble are you here?
i have a question for you

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:03 pm

HAMMER BEFORE THE DAY GETS DERAILED
WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS CHANCE AGAIN

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:04 pm

PLEASE ALI I'M BEGGING YOU

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:05 pm

In post 4451, Double the Trouble wrote:thats not exactly a question pichu

i love pooky but he might convince people to unvote Bell and we might not get this chance again
i think it's really beneficial to hammer this

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:07 pm

In post 4459, Polar Bear Express wrote:I'm getting so excited I'm forgetting to sign lmfao.
This is the happiest I've been in a game this week

-nornor

can you believe these people talking about league while we parade on Bell?
unbelievable

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:07 pm

In post 4461, Double the Trouble wrote:im in a league game

VOTE: Bell

there you go
remove the quotes

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:11 pm

In post 4466, Flavor Leaf wrote:How y'all think I feel? This was a boring af day. End it.

LISTEN TO THIS MAN

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:12 pm

In post 4465, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4462, pichu wrote:
In post 4459, Polar Bear Express wrote:I'm getting so excited I'm forgetting to sign lmfao.
This is the happiest I've been in a game this week

-nornor
can you believe these people talking about league while we parade on Bell?
unbelievable
By royal decree of Pichu, everyone is to shut up about league and HAMMER.

-nornor

the only person online who isn't voting Bell is double trouble
grumble grumble
UNLESS a surprise spiffeh comes out of nowhere and becomes my hero
>_>
<_<

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:15 pm

grumble grumble
-grumblegrumble

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:35 pm

murdercat incredibly anti town play for not hammering

pichu · Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:56 pm

YESSSSSS

pichu · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:57 pm

In post 6062, Noraa wrote:Wait hectic was that an actual crumb?

the emoji thing?
ofc not

pichu · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:57 pm

In post 6070, Brian Skies wrote:The rest of you were fun too, but I just wanted Pichu to know how much I enjoyed his presence here.

<3
you guys were fun too before they brutally murdered you
obvtown less next time

pichu · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:58 pm

In post 6074, Spiffeh wrote:I am still level 13 in League

lol i just lost a lot of respect for you spiffeh
i'm level 14

pichu · Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:03 pm

wtf spiffeh

pichu · Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:09 pm

In post 6129, Noraa wrote:
In post 6127, pichu wrote:wtf spiffeh
Hi gloria! (Hectic spilled the beans that u two switched places)

ffs hectic hate that guy
should be the d1 policy elim every game