Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[midwaybear]

Pooky did say the way S_S didn’t push Morning seemed indicative that they were both scum

Seems like scum trying to keep the options open tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

I forgot Pooky flipped scum ,._.

[MariaR]

I also don’t think Jingle is a wolf due to the fact this wolf team seems very scattered, almost lost. There’s no real sense of leadership and Jingle would’ve brought that. With so many loud voices you need to stick together and that just didn’t happen from the looks of it

[midwaybear]

Also, here were my thoughts coming into the day
Don’t want: Jingle, Noraa, Zaiden
Don’t want today: Murder, Maria SS
Could compromise: Gypyx
Don’t townlean: Cakez, Gamma
Of course, we should take things slow, and I will review the game.

[MariaR]

Mid Gamma Nora and Jingle seem fine to me I’ll look at the rest later

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you TR me Maria

[Jingle]

Don’t want: Jingle

[Jingle]

I gave unto Cheetory the peach, and have received no peach PM. I am unsure if that means I didn't receive any peaches or if the PM is still incoming, as I have received a peach on every prior day.

I'm instigating this in the vague hopes that we have a third 2 shot watcher with a guilty. That would be hilarious.

I'm going to leave the massclaim/no massclaim as the sole discretion of SS as SS is almost certainly town right now, in my eyes.

[Noraa]

I dont even remember who I gave my peach to and I sent my pm like a couple hours ago.

[Noraa]

I think it was zaidan but idk.

[SirCakez]

Cheet really wanted Murder next, feel like we should go there next

[Noraa]

Scum buddy is Jingle or Murdercat is my current opinion but idk anymore. I just wanna see what my pie does :O

[Jingle]

Spoiler: Interesting Vote Counts with Colored Flips

Votecount 1.2

Cheetory6

- 1 (

Spring Breeze

)

clidd

Gamma Emerald - 1 (

staypositivefriend

)
Gypyx - 1 (Jingle)

Jake the Wolfie

- 1 (Gamma Emerald)
Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear - 2 (noraa, Gypyx)
noraa - 1 (

PrivateI

)

Pink Ball

PookyTheMagicalBear

PrivateI

- 1 (MURDERSUNNY)
SirCakez
Something_Smart

Spring Breeze

- 4 (SirCakez, midwaybear, Zaiden,

Cheetory6

)

staypositivefriend

- 2 (

PookyTheMagicalBear,

Jake)
Zaiden - 1 (MariaR)

Not Voting - 3 (

clidd

,

Pink Ball

, Something_Smart)

Day 1 ends on January 29th at 8PM EST. With 18 alive, it takes 10 to ask someone politely to leave.

If I make a mistake in the Votecount, please PM me or message me on Discord to let me know. Do not clutter the thread with posts about it.

Votecount 1.5

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald - 1 (Jake)
Gypyx

Jake the Wolfie

- 2 (Zaiden, midwaybear)
Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear - 1 (noraa)

Morning Tweet

noraa - 4 (

PrivateI

, Jingle, MURDERSUNNY,

Pink Ball

)

Pink Ball

PookyTheMagicalBear

- 1 (

staypositivefriend

)

PrivateI

SirCakez
Something_Smart

Spring Breeze

- 1 (SirCakez)

staypositivefriend

- 1 (

PookyTheMagicalBear

)
Zaiden - 5 (MariaR,

Cheetory6

,

Spring Breeze

, Gypyx, Gamma Emerald)

Not Voting - 2 (

Morning Tweet

, Something_Smart)

Day 1 ends on January 29th at 8PM EST. With 18 alive, it takes 10 to ask someone politely to leave.

If I make a mistake in the Votecount, please PM me or message me on Discord to let me know. Do not clutter the thread with posts about it.

Morning Tweet

replaces clidd

Votecount 1.7

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald - 1 (Jake)
Gypyx - 3 (

staypositivefriend

, SirCakez, Zaiden)

Jake the Wolfie

- 1 (midwaybear)
Jingle - 2 (noraa, MariaR)
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

noraa - 3 (

PrivateI

, MURDERSUNNY,

Pink Ball

)

Pink Ball

PookyTheMagicalBear

PrivateI

SirCakez - 1 (

PookyTheMagicalBear

)
Something_Smart

Spring Breeze

staypositivefriend

Zaiden - 5 (

Cheetory6

, Jingle,

Spring Breeze

, Gypyx, Gamma Emerald)

Not Voting - 2 (

Morning Tweet

, Something_Smart)

Day 1 ends on January 29th at 8PM EST. With 18 alive, it takes 10 to ask someone politely to leave.

If I make a mistake in the Votecount, please PM me or message me on Discord to let me know. Do not clutter the thread with posts about it.

SUPER DUPER OFFICIAL VOTECOUNT 1.11 SPONSORED BY MURDERSUNNY

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald - 2 (Jake, midwaybear)
Gypyx

Jake the Wolfie

- 1 (Jingle)
Jingle - 1 (noraa)
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

noraa - 1 (

PrivateI

)

Pink Ball

- 1 (

Spring Breeze

)

PookyTheMagicalBear

PrivateI

SirCakez - 2 (

PookyTheMagicalBear,

Gypyx)
Something_Smart

Spring Breeze

- 7 (

Pink Ball

,

staypositivefriend

, Something_Smart, SirCakez, Zaiden, MURDERSUNNY, Gamma Emerald)

staypositivefriend

Zaiden - 1 (MariaR)

Not Voting - 2 (

Cheetory6

,

Morning Tweet

)

Day 1 ends on January 29th at 8PM EST. With 18 alive, it takes 10 to ask someone politely to leave.

Votecount 1.13

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald - 1 (Jake)
Gypyx

Jake the Wolfie

Jingle - 1 (noraa)
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

noraa - 1 (

PrivateI

)

Pink Ball

- 1 (

Spring Breeze

)

PookyTheMagicalBear

PrivateI

SirCakez - 2 (

PookyTheMagicalBear,

Gypyx)
Something_Smart

Spring Breeze

- 10 (

Pink Ball

,

staypositivefriend

, Something_Smart, SirCakez, Zaiden, Gamma Emerald,

Cheetory6

, midwaybear, Jingle, MariaR)

staypositivefriend

Zaiden

Not Voting - 2 (

Morning Tweet

, MURDERSUNNY)

Day 1 ends on January 29th at 8PM EST. With 18 alive, it takes 10 to ask someone politely to leave.

Votecount 2.2

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald - 1 (MURDERSUNNY)
Gypyx - 2 (Noraa, Gamma)

Jake the Wolfie

- 1 (Jingle)
Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR - 2 (midwaybear, Zaiden)
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

noraa

Pink Ball

PookyTheMagicalBear

PrivateI

- 4 (

Cheetory6

,

Pink Ball

, SirCakez, Gypyx)
SirCakez
Something_Smart - 1 (MariaR)
Zaiden

Not Voting - 5 (Jake,

Morning Tweet

,

PookyTheMagicalBear,

PrivateI

, Something_Smart)

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to ask someone politely to leave. Deadline is February 11th at 10PM EST.

Votecount 2.3

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald
Gypyx - 2 (Noraa, Gamma)

Jake the Wolfie

- 1 (Jingle)
Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR - 2 (midwaybear, Zaiden)
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

noraa

Pink Ball

PookyTheMagicalBear

PrivateI

- 6 (

Cheetory6

,

Pink Ball

, SirCakez, Gypyx, MURDERSUNNY,

PookyTheMagicalBear

)
SirCakez
Something_Smart - 1 (MariaR)
Zaiden

Not Voting - 4 (Jake,

Morning Tweet

,

PrivateI

, Something_Smart)

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to ask someone politely to leave. Deadline is February 11th at 10PM EST.

Final Day 2 Votecount

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald
Gypyx - 1 (Noraa)

Jake the Wolfie

Jingle
MariaR - 1 (Zaiden)
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

MURDERSUNNY - 1 (Something_Smart)
noraa

Pink Ball

- 1 (Jingle)

PookyTheMagicalBear

PrivateI

- 9 (

Cheetory6

, SirCakez,

PookyTheMagicalBear,

Gamma, midwaybear,

Pink Ball

, MURDERSUNNY, Gypyx, MariaR)
SirCakez
Something_Smart
Zaiden

Not Voting - 3 (Jake,

Morning Tweet

,

PrivateI

)

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to ask someone politely to leave. Deadline is February 11th at 10PM EST.

Votecount 3.1

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald
Gypyx

Jake the Wolfie

Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

- 5 (

Cheetory6

,

PookyTheMagicalBear,

Something_Smart, Zaiden, SirCakez)
noraa

PookyTheMagicalBear

SirCakez
Something_Smart - 3 (midwaybear,

Morning Tweet

, MariaR)
Zaiden

Not Voting - 6 (Gamma, Gypyx, Jake, Jingle, MURDERSUNNY, noraa)

With 14 alive, it's 8 to ask someone somewhat more tersely than previously to leave. Deadline is February 18th at 10PM EST.

Votecount 3.3

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald
Gypyx

Jake the Wolfie

Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

- 6 (

Cheetory6

,

PookyTheMagicalBear,

Something_Smart, Zaiden, SirCakez, Gypyx)
noraa

PookyTheMagicalBear

SirCakez
Something_Smart - 3 (midwaybear,

Morning Tweet

, MariaR)
Zaiden

Not Voting - 5 (Gamma, Jake, Jingle, MURDERSUNNY, noraa)

With 14 alive, it's 8 to ask someone somewhat more tersely than previously to leave. Deadline is February 18th at 10PM EST.

Final Day 3 Votecount

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald
Gypyx

Jake the Wolfie

Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear

Morning Tweet

- 8 (

Cheetory6

,

PookyTheMagicalBear,

Something_Smart, Zaiden, SirCakez, Gypyx, MariaR,

Morning Tweet

)
noraa

PookyTheMagicalBear

SirCakez
Something_Smart - 1 (midwaybear)
Zaiden

Not Voting - 5 (Gamma, Jake, Jingle, MURDERSUNNY, noraa)

With 14 alive, it's 8 to ask someone somewhat more tersely than previously to leave. Deadline is February 18th at 10PM EST.

Final Day 4 Votecount

Cheetory6

Gamma Emerald
Gypyx
Jingle
MURDERSUNNY
MariaR
midwaybear
noraa

PookyTheMagicalBear

- 7 (

Cheetory6

, Gamma, SirCakez, MariaR, Noraa, midwaybear,

PookyTheMagicalBear

)

SirCakez
Something_Smart
Zaiden

Not Voting - 5 (Gypyx, Jingle, MURDERSUNNY, Something_Smart, Zaiden)

With 12 alive, it's 7 to ask someone politely to leave. Deadline is 2/25 at 8PM EST.

[Jingle]

I missed coloring a bunch of Jake votes because they were Jake and not Jake the Wolfie. I am not reposting to fix this.

[Gamma Emerald]

last two days I forgot my NA and my peach got randomized
pooky got it n3, I kinda wanna play cagey with my action from last night for a sec

[Jingle]

Noraa/Zaiden looks very TVT in 1.5-1.7

Day 3 makes me think mwb and Maria are town, as that ship was inevitably sinking.

S_S is probtown.

S_S and Gamma are softclaims.

[SirCakez]

I sent mine to Cheet because I was hoping the prots would come through

[midwaybear]

I mean then there is probably no protective or it is gated. In the case that there is a protective, I think they have played a great game

[midwaybear]

Despite townleaning murder coming in to the day, his first post didn’t really sit well with me. I’m not sure why town him chooses to lock the options into him/Maria. I get that he scumreads Maria, so it’s more of including himself in the elim pool that isn’t too great. He can argue that “the game is already won”, but that’s some morning tweet logic right there.

[Jingle]

Yeah... Noraa's locktown from MT's defense of me from her, too. Noraa has a free pass to XLO.

MT has a wall talking about SB talking about Zaiden. That seems super awkward from three scum slots.

[midwaybear]

I townread Zaiden’s early stance on Pooky/Spring Breeze, and him getting confused at why Maria was townreading Spring Breeze. I don’t know if he cares about that as scum.

[Something_Smart]

I don't want to massclaim right now.

[Jingle]

Spoiler:

murder's case is pretty towny for murder, and my dear teammate infinity says he sees his soul with his cake questioning. i can't comment about cakez though because i don't know him well. based on this game alone, i'd still say he was towny.

i think pooky is town again due to soulmeld but no good reason

i decently liked s_s when he got involved earlier

for pink ball, i do think i was biased with yesterday. i felt like he was really selective with my posting to put me in the worst possible light. gut says it feels unfair, but brain thinks it could be genuine if i think about it from his shoes. i don't know what else to say here, i am biased

i skimmed the rest of the thread and i'm generally, i'm feeling this

{murder, noraa}
{

pooky

,

cheetory

}
{gypyx, zaiden, s_s, sircakez,

morning

}
{

pink ball

, mariar, midway,

spf

} --- null
{jingle,

private

,

jake

, gamma}

feel free to ask me to elaborate on any of these

SB wagon and players' reads on her

> Pink Ball drops his massive case. He has stated that he would get SB eliminated and this was clear for the majority of the day from what I can remember. He voted Spring originally in 610, keeps her as a scumread throughout, pressures her in 1216, and bam 1448 is where he states his intent to get SB killed. At the time judging from the previous page, Cake was receiving heat, Cheet just dropped a point about Jingle being possibly dissonant, there are wagons on Zaiden/Gypyx/Jingle at this time. Needless to say, i think it is accurate to say Pink Ball is the catalyst for the SB wagon during a time where many, many others would have been accepted. It is also probably worth noting that SB was a strongman which presumably is one of the stronger PRs

i will also mention that i think pink treating the game like he has to solve it asap before dying is towny

> SPF joins immediately ..

> Murder pressures Cakes but will catch up on other stuff another time ..

> S_S joins immediately

> Jingle wants to wait for PI's input

> Morning thinks there is way less time in the day than there actually is, im guessing as a result of Jingle mentioning "end of day" but idfk

> Gypyx doesnt get to it with his catchup, does agree to wallcase maria though and i think this combined with the case itself was towny

> Pooky doesnt mention it

> midway isn't opposed but is holding off for the moment

> Murder continues the cake crusade (also maria further down) but is interested in how SB will fit into his idea of the scumteam. He does point out SB's read post where she "soulread thinks he's town". this post gives me an idea

it's true i don't think i've been super on ball with the game so i combed back through and i think these takes are a lot truer to my heart. list isn't ordered.

(TOWN) - cheetory is a townread, even taking away the emotional reason which i don't think i should focus on anymore. he's generally invested, and i especially like how he said he was going to go v/la but couldn't help but come back to comment on things about the game.

(TOWN) - noraa i think is town. she's actually playing very similar to a game i hard scumread her in and she was town. this is also one of the reads infinity feels really good about so i am locking in


(SOUL TOWN) - sircakez has in general been pretty unafraid to give his opinions, and tonally reads as blunt town. maybe it's a soulread, i just think he's town

(SOUL TOWN) - pooky is my randsoultown. we played a game just before and he was a lot like this, and i'd think scum!pooky would be trying to control the gamestate/do something meaningful. he does know this, but i still feel he's town, i suppose. he just doesn't seem to care.

(TOWN LEAN) - morning tweet, i think is town for the confidence with the noraa read. i've played with scum!morning briefly and don't think she likes to make waves.

(TOWN LEAN) - gypx, i think is town. he's low effort solving, but still solving

(TOWNISH BUT HESISTANT) - spf; my teammate infinity says he mindmelds with her a lot, and i agree she's had good takes, but i don't think she's towntold enough for a townread. this maria post (1209) still pings me; i still think is too logic leapy, and she expresses a townread on mariar for it which i think is unwarranted. i don't *think* i'm misunderstanding the point, or at least am too far off

(TOWNISH BUT HESISTANT) - zaiden; i liked his attempts to scumhunt with the conversations with his team members. i looked back and think i am probably putting too much stock into that emotional read so i am flipping here again. tonally town because i find him funny, but bias aside, he's probably a light townlean/null.


(NULL) - maria, on reflection, i can see being similar to pooky so i'm not that suspicious of her being put to the side as town for a lot of players. personally, i have no idea and i don't think my opinion matters on this

(NULL) - jake is lhf, but should absolutely not be townread by any stretch of the imagination

(NULL) - pink ball, i'm pretty self conscious that i'm an attractive push for scum, but i don't think i can in good faith call that a scum push. otherwise content is a lot of asking questions and short comments which is pretty null.

(???) - murdersunny; i have seen murdercat in other games though and he generally has a lot to say. the fact he's popped in a few times and said he's had nothing to say/nothing is happening feels strange because i almost feel like he wouldn't be able to contain his opinions as town if he's town. the change in playstyle is leantown, but it also lets him get away with not offering opinions. i'm fully open to looking at his case though


(NULLSCUM) - s_s, i am nullscumleaning for popping in at apparently the right moments to make jokes, but doesn't offer anything.


(SCUM WITH REASONING) - jingle, i still don't like his original noraa push. the points are nitpicky and generally reachy to come to the conclusion that noraa is scum. i do like (agree) with his reasoning behind the PR point noraa brought up though. 1477 i feel is still weak suppliment for a "very confident scumread" on noraa. the first question cheetory asked about noraa was a "this is more likely read," and the second one was just an inconsistency. i don't think he answered my question about the BoP.

(No Mention, but notices she missed) - Gamma

(No Mention, but notices she missed) -

PrivateII

(No Mention) - midwaybear

my team hasn't been around for this game, although infinity did say he was confident in noraa town, and he mindmelds with spf a while ago, and ydrasse said noraa was prob!town, which was also while ago

I think this pretty heavily implies Noraa being town, she even mentions Noraa twice with her teammates' reads. i already think Noraa is town anyway but thats nice

Cheetory

I think is more likely town than not from this as well.

Cakes and

Pooky

reads are more constrained for being more gut/soul feely, im unsure where to place them in the hierarchy as a result. They come off as less genuine because of it, not necessarily scummy but more forced

Gypyx i already think is more likely town but i do notice that he had around 3 votes at the time so he was certainly on the table for some, i lean that Kanna doesnt put him upwards for nothing reasoning if they're scum mates

Kanna hedges the fuck outta

SPF

and Zaiden. Just focusing on Zaiden, i recall SB initially scumreading there but then you end up with this sort of messy read right after the bit where Zaiden got emotional and the heat got let off. Pink kinda already commented on this but it did read like Zaiden was the intended elimination but then he obvtowned so SB kinda didnt know what to do w herself. I dont really see why she doesnt either brush off that emotion reasoning (as some have done) or commit to it, this is maybe cause not everyone agreed Zaiden is town from it I suppose so she wanted to leave it open. I think that's the idea

Nulls are whatever, what is more interesting is her fake scumread on Pink Ball later in the day calling him bad faith. I guess you could say that she would do that for distancing but i thought it read genuine

i think the murder read is just kind of quirky cause i dont believe murder was ever considered as an elimination but she hedges on him being maybe scummy here without really saying a lot

i dont have an opinion on the S_S read, it's in its own category for her in slight scum, could see low risk distance or just S_S being town she felt like attacking

Jingle i think comes off good as he is virtually the only player she seems to feel strongly is scum for the 2nd half of the day. She expended the most effort trying to shade there and this was at a time long before she would know she would die

She forgets Gamma and

Private

which i would lean slightly you dont do to a partner ?? but she is aware that she missed them about 45 minutes later for whatever reason so unsure. Also she missed midway but doesnt even realize

I think my townreads overlap decently with this, I think Noraa/Cheet are strongest, Gypyx i lean and it leads me to believe Zaiden and Jingle are town as well. i dont think Kanna would have planned a distance as far back as Zaiden, and likely not Jingle as well, why would she even think she's going to die on this day? Pink Ball and Murder arent really interesting in this list but i think they are town too.

uh continuing on with what i was doing, Cakes is thinking about S_S and Gypyx at this time while arguing with murder abt the definition of scumhunting

>Cakes agrees emphatically with the case and joins, thinks PB is very likely town for it as well. Murder inquires as to what made Cakes nulltown at first then switch with the case. Cakes notes that the "point of inflection", so the part where Kanna turns her gameplay on as soon as she learns of Pink ball's suspicion is a very good point.

>Murder does the thing where he possibly overleans into pre-flips around here as a result of wanting to score as many points for finding the team as possible, i think this is more likely a thought he thinks to have as town rather than one he'd think to fake, like I think that's something you might not think about as scum

>Pooky around this time hasn't really done anything other than revel at others' desire to win the game, i guess. Now PB asks Pooky directly to respond to his case. he gives a lengthy soul type read explanation where is he certain she is not pocketing him and by extension town. I have questions to ask pooky surrounding the nature of this read but i am sure those will be asked if they havent already

>PrivateI thought there was scum in PB/SB, with the recent case he is inclined to swap to SB probably, mentions he would likely generally buy his case. Eh eh eh

>Pooky is 100% sure Kanna is town cause she wouldnt emotionally manipulate him. I asked about where he's being emotionally manipulated which was probably the wrong question, cause he followed up by saying he isnt, Kanna is being genuine

>Zaiden joins SB with ease

>I kid you not, Gypyx doesn't know who SB is. when the abbreviation is clarified, he says he has no read on them, maybe a slight scumlean. i am inclined to think Gypyx gives an opinion on her if they are scum mates

Pedit: So I'm tired, from Murder's post, the rest of the votes go Gamma -> Cheet -> midway -> Jingle -> MariaR

Somewhere around there, i think the elimination was inevitable so the votes and reads are less important. Maybe there is a point to make about how easy the wagon went thru, sure, scum did not attempt to fight it really. in my opinion if they had it would have been unnecessary troubles for them in the future since i think the Kanna wagon was being sent at that point. I would be wary about assuming scum joins because at least in my case voting isn't even AI, if i were scum i am just as likely to bother adding my vote as i am not. Competing wagons would make that kind of thing more interesting. i also say this because i think Cheet is town strongly and im thinking that way for mid and Jingle already


Noraa /

Pinkball

Cheetory

/ Zaiden
midway / Jingle / Murdercatto
Gypyx
-
I think out of the rest, Gamma and PrivateI come off slightly better for Kanna forgetting they exist maybe, i generally need more before deciding on who is scum in the bottom half though, im never good at that. I feel pretty good about what i have so far, maybe i fucked up once but only in the bottom tiers[/quote][/spoiler]

Looking at this I don't want Cakez lim today.

[Jingle]

fuck. I meant to kill the nested spoiler and only got half of it.

[Jingle]

Jingle
Something_Smart, noraa, Zaiden
SirCakez, midwaybear
Gamma Emerald, MariaR
Gypyx, MURDERCAT

I end up roughly here, with Gypyx and Murdercat as my desired limpool for today.