Of course not but I do remember you mentioned not getting cult early last game too VOTE: korina
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nvm UNVOTE:In post 24, Korina wrote:Fuck it, I'm claiming.I'm a NK-Immune Miller Vig. I cannot be a SK, because like A50 said, my third pick was cult.
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This doesn't sound honestIn post 70, mahimahi wrote:our shot went through according to Ircher
so Korina is bulletproof
why are you bulletproof, Korina
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Well I have nothing to worry about this time so I will absolutely join your cult KorinaIn post 81, Korina wrote:Raya, what if I ask you nicely to join my cult? Pooky isn't here, I don't think, so I'm taking the mantle up in their honor.
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That would also be very funnyIn post 82, samantha97 wrote:
nm he totally picked that cult thing that gets people to join via postsIn post 81, Korina wrote:Raya, what if I ask you nicely to join my cult? Pooky isn't here, I don't think, so I'm taking the mantle up in their honor.-
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I think they're more likely messing aroundIn post 89, Korina wrote:I think everyone who's posted thus far, excluding mahimahi is probably town as well. I think without a shadow of a doubt, mahimahi is 3p scum. I'm also going to sleep, so I'll intermittently reply while I'm at work tomorrow.-
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Yeah, I believe Korina too. The thought process and choices are very KorinaIn post 91, Almost50 wrote:
Find me a Cult ROle that is also BP in the GIM thread and I'll consider it. For now I fully believe Korina's claimed role and alignmentIn post 79, Raya36 wrote:Of course not but I do remember you mentioned not getting cult early last game too VOTE: korina
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Well at least now when I check mafiascum to procrastinate I'll for sure have multiple pages to catch up onIn post 97, Almost50 wrote:
Some people talk too much (which is a relief for me because no matter how much I shitpost I won't be having 20% of the day posts all by myself)In post 84, Raya36 wrote:HOW ARE THERE 4 PAGES ALREADY-
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I don't think scum or third party would be this obvious (especially jester type roles) unless they have specific motivation to be killed at night. I'd be careful but idkIn post 104, Korina wrote:
Claiming dayvig and saying I'm bulletproof doesn't sound like joking to me. If they were to say it was to see how I'd react, I'd be more inclined, but I'm still shooting them tonight. If they flip town, it's whatever. I at least confirm my existence tonight, unless scum have a bus-driver or roleblocker.In post 102, Raya36 wrote:
I think they're more likely messing aroundIn post 89, Korina wrote:I think everyone who's posted thus far, excluding mahimahi is probably town as well. I think without a shadow of a doubt, mahimahi is 3p scum. I'm also going to sleep, so I'll intermittently reply while I'm at work tomorrow.-
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Nah, Korina is just confident in generalIn post 105, mahimahi wrote:In post 102, Raya36 wrote:
I think they're more likely messing aroundIn post 89, Korina wrote:I think everyone who's posted thus far, excluding mahimahi is probably town as well. I think without a shadow of a doubt, mahimahi is 3p scum. I'm also going to sleep, so I'll intermittently reply while I'm at work tomorrow.without a shadow of a doubtis far too confident, don't ya think
seems like they're lying about their beliefs
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You already have like 30% alone so...In post 109, Korina wrote:
Yea, I also tend to post a lot, so knowing that, me and A50 will probably compose around 20% of the posts easily.In post 108, Raya36 wrote:
Well at least now when I check mafiascum to procrastinate I'll for sure have multiple pages to catch up onIn post 97, Almost50 wrote:
Some people talk too much (which is a relief for me because no matter how much I shitpost I won't be having 20% of the day posts all by myself)In post 84, Raya36 wrote:HOW ARE THERE 4 PAGES ALREADY-
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I'm still leaning towards Mahi is messing around. Scum would try to blend in a bit better and not obvscum?In post 128, TemporalLich wrote:
From my experience modding a grand idea with Korina in it, this is towny.In post 14, Korina wrote:I SENT IN ONE-SHOT DEATHPROOF CULT LEADER, AND DIDN'T GET IT, I'M ANGRY ABOUT IT, DON'T REMIND ME I DIDN'T ROLL CULT
this on the other hand is scummy tunnelingIn post 41, mahimahi wrote:
locked and loaded on the target, overIn post 38, mahimahi wrote:korina must die for his transgressions and lies
mahimahi, should we take the shot?
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a bit too stronge an accusation, korina spewed town but could be scumIn post 80, samantha97 wrote:voting korina is mafiaclaiming
are you saying Raya is confirmed town?! What the heck?
VOTE: mahimahi - your initial posts strike me as scum tunneled on a town claim. Hopefully you aren't actually claiming Raya is confirmed town but you have to realize saying "X is literally flipped town" means you know that X is confirmed town and if I think you're scummy that makes me want to exile you more.-
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Agreed. Maybe they can confirm if they were joking or not.In post 132, samantha97 wrote:they should commit to whether they were serious or not, cause they sprinkled in joke posts-
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You mean in GIM scum are more likely to act how they are?In post 135, VFP wrote:
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You could be right but I take early posts giving innos or guilties very very lightlyIn post 137, TemporalLich wrote:yeah this is GIM but mahi still seems way too confident on their reads.
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Maybe they can confirm if their Korina read is serious or not tooIn post 141, TemporalLich wrote:then again I'm arguing based on tone now, but mahi still seems to have a scummy push on Korina-
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I don't think a role like that would have been allowed and picking that as your other would have guaranteed them to not get that alignmentIn post 169, mahimahi wrote:viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&user_select%5 ... &start=200
Just read this
Are you seriously telling me Korina picks 1-shot deathproof cult leader over the busted cult roles they've come up with? Like, you can find stuff in there like ELITE CULT LEADER THAT LITERALLY CANNOT DIE BY ANY MEANS UNTIL DAY 4 AND CAN RECEUIT 2 PLAYERS PER NIGHT or something like that, and cultmafia roles which combine the mafia and cult factions and other ridiculous busted things
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Depending on their role I guess I partially agreeIn post 178, VFP wrote:
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No but I kinda wish. Saying I hated cult last game was a lie. I actually do enjoy itIn post 206, Vaxkiller wrote:
Are you in the "cultfia" with them? (one of the many roles by korina)In post 201, Raya36 wrote:I honestly just think Mahi vs Korina is a TvT fight-
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Don't know what to think of this. This is a bold way to role hunt if you're scum.In post 227, mahimahi wrote:Alright, so since I can see this town randomly voting us out and there's utility to claim this, here's our role:
We'll check Korina tonight (if we don't execute them), and one other volunteer who'd like to be confirmedIn post 7302, Hectic wrote:Town Guesser
Each night, may submit 2Guessesof the exact roles of two separate players.
You will be told if 0, 1, or both of your guesses are correct. You will not be told which guess is correct for the case you get 1 correct.
You may not submit a guess for the same player more than once in the game.
For each correct guess, you receive aOne-Shot Doctor Heal.
Heals can be stacked, and multiple can be used in the same night along with the guesses.
You may self-target with a heal no more than once during the game.
If you're okay with claiming and being confirmed, link us your role from the Grand Idee Thread
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I do have a concern. If you have a way to confirm if Korina is lying or not you wouldn't rush to the conclusion that they're scum and must be eliminated. You have the ability to confirm their claim so why would you push for an elimination. If I had this role I would keep quiet, guess Korina's role, and put some random obviously not correct guess for another player.-
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Their play does not line up with their role at all. If they think someone who claimed their exact role is scum this is the exact perfect opportunity to get a guilty on that player. They may never get this opportunity again because the people they think are scum might not claim anything to be checked. If there role is true then they should absolutely not have said anything, checked Korina how I suggested, then looked for someone else to push because they can resolve Korina by the next day.In post 244, Vaxkiller wrote:
@raya,In post 242, Raya36 wrote:Don't know what to think of this. This is a bold way to role hunt if you're scum.
That's where im at. If they are scum, and it's a fake claim, the person on the OTHER end will know if they are lying eventually.
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Yes, I'm very aware Korina likes cult. And I'm very aware Korina is good at fakeclaiming. I was mafia with them last GIM. I don't think they're lying this game. And if they are you can apparently resolve that for us without us needing to flip someone who could be town.In post 247, mahimahi wrote:@Vax:
@Raya: I'm not exaggerating when I say I'm very sure that Korina is scum/cult. I know all about Korina's cult obsessions and they've 100% lied this gameIn post 161, mahimahi wrote:
Yes, fine, we're not a dayvig. We picked someone who'd already claimed to stop any unnecessary claims from happening and to get us out of RVSIn post 157, samantha97 wrote:so are you committing to not being a dayvig then? also even if korina wanted cult, they only had a 15% chance of getting it
if they wanted to maximize their chances at cult they'd pick town/mafia analogues
but I believe them that they went for broken unkillable roles for all 3
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I 100% agree with thisIn post 275, Almost50 wrote:
OK, let ME be clear too:In post 171, KidAmn wrote:To be clear - Korina absolutely has to die *at some point* IMO due to the Miller claim. The question, I suspect, is really whether we want to trust their claim and leash them as a vigilante, or try and remove the doubt before they could potentially get out of hand with a cult if they're lying.
1- I am fully against yeeting Korina today
2- I am fully against leashing Korina tonight
3- Korina should shoot whomever he thinks is the best target
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This is actually a good point. I still don't want Korina eliminated but something to keep in mindIn post 288, Vaxkiller wrote:In post 72, Korina wrote:I told you, I'm nk-proof.
Here is the problem I have: Korina uses bad logic to explain why they are still alive from the fake shot, its just blatant lies. Why would anyone think that extends to the day? If they were town, or their "claimed" role, they would be reacting differently.... not using logic like "my nk-proof ability protected me in the daytime"In post 73, Korina wrote:I don't know why that would extend to the day, but I feel like you're lying about it anyways.-
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I just don't think this is how Korina acts if they actually got cult. Maybe a different scum but I'm still leaning town overall and while it's a good point it isn't stronger than my readIn post 295, Vaxkiller wrote:
I don't get it. You and temp lich agree its a good point, probably the most concrete one we have in the game so far... but you are unwilling to fade korina? Why?In post 291, Raya36 wrote:This is actually a good point. I still don't want Korina eliminated but something to keep in mind
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Thanks Korina <3In post 317, Korina wrote:Raya is town and in my cult, leave them alone. I recruited them n0. Also, VFP, if I recruit you tonight, will I die? Yes or no?-
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You also lose your vote the next day if you have over 20% of the posts just as an fyiIn post 326, Guillotina wrote:
I haven't had the time to read all the rules, I signed up for a relax fun game where I didn't have to worry about over complicated rules that would require a lot of attention.In post 318, Vaxkiller wrote:
This just reads "look im doing towny things, and have a towny thought process", instead of doing what everyone else would do with a vig.... shoot someone you think is scum and shrug it off if they arent.In post 308, Korina wrote:@A50, I'm not planning on shooting tonight, because I wanna see how many kills we have, excluding me. At most, we can have literally six SKs, but more pragmatically speaking, we probably have Mafia + SK/WW. Not only that, but we have majority throughout most of the game, so unless we lose three townies tonight, I'm not gonna shoot until I'm certain someone will flip scum.
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I picked a dayvig, but that was my mafia pick.
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Yes, I would, because I think picking NK-Immune Miller Vig is actually a really smart move on my end. You can eliminate the odds of me being SK entirely, because I obviously pick Cult, meaning I'm either BP scum, or actually telling the truth.
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Oops, guess a lot of people beat me to that one. I need to adjust to wallposting, I think I've been forgetting that this game.In post 334, Guillotina wrote:In post 328, Vaxkiller wrote:@guil
Double posting is ok, but try not to.... multiple posting in a row is a no-no.
There are more, but those are the ones I noticed you breaking.In post 329, samantha97 wrote:
tldr is if you chain post (3+) you might get a warning, if you have 20% of the total votes at eod you get a warning/penalty vote/somethingIn post 326, Guillotina wrote:Would you mind sharing with me the general idea of those rules? So I know and don't break them?
Oh thanks guys, that's good to know.In post 331, TemporalLich wrote:
Double posting is okay, but posting three or more times in a row is heavily discouraged.In post 326, Guillotina wrote:
I haven't had the time to read all the rules, I signed up for a relax fun game where I didn't have to worry about over complicated rules that would require a lot of attention.In post 318, Vaxkiller wrote:
This just reads "look im doing towny things, and have a towny thought process", instead of doing what everyone else would do with a vig.... shoot someone you think is scum and shrug it off if they arent.In post 308, Korina wrote:@A50, I'm not planning on shooting tonight, because I wanna see how many kills we have, excluding me. At most, we can have literally six SKs, but more pragmatically speaking, we probably have Mafia + SK/WW. Not only that, but we have majority throughout most of the game, so unless we lose three townies tonight, I'm not gonna shoot until I'm certain someone will flip scum.
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I picked a dayvig, but that was my mafia pick.
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Yes, I would, because I think picking NK-Immune Miller Vig is actually a really smart move on my end. You can eliminate the odds of me being SK entirely, because I obviously pick Cult, meaning I'm either BP scum, or actually telling the truth.
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You may want to read the rules regarding multiple posts in a row. (really all the rules)
My mom is pending brain surgery mid of April and all the paperwork plus the gravity of the operation prevents me from taking on too strict games. Would you mind sharing with me the general idea of those rules? So I know and don't break them?
If you have a disproportionate amount of posts at the end of the Day phase, you may lose your vote the next day.
So if I'm catching up, it's better if I just post a wall. Got it
It's a worthy investmentIn post 361, Korina wrote:Also Raya is already in the cult, and gets cookies.
Did you actually say that first??In post 367, Almost50 wrote:
Classic scum posting.In post 201, Raya36 wrote:I honestly just think Mahi vs Korina is a TvT fight
That said, town also can this it, so I second that notion.
Conclusion: I am Town and Raya is Scum for saying basically the exactly the same thing.Impressive as always.
Maybe I'm Mahi's partner. Maybe I am being scummyIn post 379, Almost50 wrote:
Raya, please! I want to SR you here, and I can't do that with this kind of obv!towning. Please try to post scummy stuff to keep me happy. Thank you.In post 248, Raya36 wrote:
Their play does not line up with their role at all. If they think someone who claimed their exact role is scum this is the exact perfect opportunity to get a guilty on that player. They may never get this opportunity again because the people they think are scum might not claim anything to be checked. If there role is true then they should absolutely not have said anything, checked Korina how I suggested, then looked for someone else to push because they can resolve Korina by the next day.In post 244, Vaxkiller wrote:
@raya,In post 242, Raya36 wrote:Don't know what to think of this. This is a bold way to role hunt if you're scum.
That's where im at. If they are scum, and it's a fake claim, the person on the OTHER end will know if they are lying eventually.
So I'm leaning town I guess.
Fighting is more funIn post 387, TemporalLich wrote:please don't fight, I want a peaceful game
That's actually a tough question. I read the Korina and Mahi exchange as TvT. Mahi's push and actions felt too scummy to be scum in a sense and more like town messing around. But ever since that claim I'm putting Mahi more on the null and leaning scum area. I refuse to believe that claim was honest.In post 389, Guillotina wrote:Sure! What is your read on Mahi?
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This is very true. I'm definitely fine with leaving Korina as a town lean.In post 399, Almost50 wrote:I think Korina's reaction looks more normal if you take in-contest. This is how it really went:In post 58, mahimahi wrote:actually fish have short lives and i have no time to waste for silence from our benefactor this game
dayvig: korina
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so Korina is bulletproof
why are you bulletproof, Korina
-mahiIn post 69, Korina wrote:Are you actually a dayvig mahi?In post 72, Korina wrote:I told you, I'm nk-proof.
the only way I see it as fake is if it's SvS theater. You really can't SR Korina and TR mahi based on this interaction (and especially so when Ircher had not intervened in between). I dunno why people think Korina's reaction was stramge when nothing had been confirmed by the mid yet nahi claimed mod told them the action went through. I mean, put yourself in Korina's shoes and tell me how you would have reacted differently.In post 73, Korina wrote:I don't know why that would extend to the day, but I feel like you're lying about it anyways.
I'll count it as a 100% shot rate, cult leaderIn post 410, Korina wrote:In post 407, Almost50 wrote:
That's NOT a 100% shot rate. That's an unidentified percentage (zero divided by zero)In post 354, Korina wrote:Yea, true, but I'd rather play carefully. I have a 100% correct shot rate as vigilante, because I've never played as vigilante, and I intend to keep it that way.
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Who are you leaning town on?In post 443, CaptainS wrote:I'm away for less than a day and 10 pages jees Louise.
First impressios is that you all talk ALOT.
Personally I don't believe a lot of the claims and it's Day 1 and soft claims/ roleclaiming Day 1 is honestly not be believed especially in a bastard set up.
I do have a few people that I'm leaning town with the way that they act and the way they are coming across to me but after all it is my first game with all of you and likewise with me. Becausr i could claim Jesus for all you know but I ain't got anything to back it up.
But for now VOTE: Korina Choo Choo
I played with Korina as scum last game and I'm really not getting the same feeling from themIn post 447, Vaxkiller wrote:I like Korina as much as the next person, but, they need voted out.
This is not "fear" of the possibility or anything, I know some of you are friends with Korina, but it's a game, and as I see it, Korina has got to go. I've posted my thoughts on it and I get agreement, but no votes, and it gets explained away (maybe another day, but I know them, someone even said "they deserve the win if they are cult" <--- Lol why? It's been pointed out its a possibility!, some of you are just roflcoptering asking to be recruited!)
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Well one thing I've learned is Korina aims just to have fun in this type of game. So the claimed roles line up. They just want something fun or funny. Their secondary goal is winning. I can't be certain how much this differs between when they're scum or town but when they were mafia last game they came up with claims and gimmicks for the fun of it. We are getting claims again this game but I'm not seeing the same attitude and enthusiasm. Korina was really fighting for their survival last game after claiming survivor as mafia. That's what I'm seeing the difference as. This game Korina is still fighting but instead of primarily fighting for their survival, they're fighting that the person wanting to eliminate them is scum. Korina also really emphasized their disappointment with not getting cult last game. We aren't getting that to the same extent this game. I really don't think Korina is cult this game, I think cult!Korina plays more seriously and survivalistic although I don't have anything to back that up. Korina feels a lot more calm and natural too but that could honestly just be because we're lacking a fake all caps post restriction. Not to mention I think Korina learned last game that claims can come back to bite you and also knows that we'll be paying extra attention to their claims after getting away with survivor for so long last game despite evidence. Claiming vig is just asking for a hard time when no shot can correspond to them (unless of course they're a scum vig).In post 473, Guillotina wrote:
Really? How come? Make me see what im not seeing please.In post 471, Raya36 wrote:
Who are you leaning town on?In post 443, CaptainS wrote:I'm away for less than a day and 10 pages jees Louise.
First impressios is that you all talk ALOT.
Personally I don't believe a lot of the claims and it's Day 1 and soft claims/ roleclaiming Day 1 is honestly not be believed especially in a bastard set up.
I do have a few people that I'm leaning town with the way that they act and the way they are coming across to me but after all it is my first game with all of you and likewise with me. Becausr i could claim Jesus for all you know but I ain't got anything to back it up.
But for now VOTE: Korina Choo Choo
I played with Korina as scum last game and I'm really not getting the same feeling from themIn post 447, Vaxkiller wrote:I like Korina as much as the next person, but, they need voted out.
This is not "fear" of the possibility or anything, I know some of you are friends with Korina, but it's a game, and as I see it, Korina has got to go. I've posted my thoughts on it and I get agreement, but no votes, and it gets explained away (maybe another day, but I know them, someone even said "they deserve the win if they are cult" <--- Lol why? It's been pointed out its a possibility!, some of you are just roflcoptering asking to be recruited!)
Korina is today's fade. I'm sorry Korina, no hard feelings, it just is, waht it is.
Anyway, that's my Korina brain-dump.
I see that you're saying it looks like Korina got caught and is trying to make up an excuse, and maybe I'm wrong here but I think based on last game Korina is better at fake claims than that and wouldn't come up with a reason so obviously untrue. With context, it reads as a confused townie to me.In post 483, Vaxkiller wrote: @RAYA and A50, Why does A50's "Context post" seem better? I need a deeper explaination.
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At least I'm trying to be vocal on you being town, right? And supported your checking 2 players to prove yourself on the get go.In post 489, mahimahi wrote:i gave up after players like vfp were voting us while townreading us because "cult memes"
I'm not sure what you are worried of, you won't be today's lim.
I'm also the only player here that we know who can confirm if Korina is cult leader or not.
So sure, I'm having a little fun here, but my reads are serious (and correct)
More proof that Mahi's claim is not true.In post 492, mahimahi wrote:oki that's fair
i'm hoping at least 1 more person claims at some point so we can check two players tonight
-mahi
This feels townIn post 499, KidAmn wrote:
I've always played with Miller roles as "lim before LiLo" and unconfirmable vigs as "leash or prevent killing (be that by setting up a perma roleblock/jail or elim). The combination of the two, on Korina, known cultlover? Probably just my inherent biases against their claimed role combination, but it makes me fairly sure that slot can't be allowed to go to endgame, and I'll stand on that hill till I die. Even if we just ask them to stick to a pool we agree on in the event they do shoot, I'd be a lot happier. FWIW I'm leaning town on the slot based on the posting and the relative promptness of the miller claim, even if 308 was a bit LAMIST, but I don't think I'll be confident enough in the read to lock it as things stand.In post 493, TemporalLich wrote:485 is a towny post, I honestly don't get why the town wants to lime Korina who acts towny and is genuinely upset he didn't roll Cult and says that inthread.
Don't claimIn post 500, TemporalLich wrote:
look I can claim since I've already softed but I want a second opinion first before I hardclaimIn post 497, mahimahi wrote:You're all so paranoid of fishing, it's ridiculous. I'm not some fisherman who's camped by the docks fishing for the best trout you'll ever see in your lives. I'm a scientist who's mixing elements and fixing chemical leaks for this town.
There's probably at least 3 different scum factions in this game, you think I'm just trying to fish town when scum need to kill each other too? You all should eat some pasta and learn that not every dish needs fish inside. Like yes, fish and chips is decent, but so is some mac and cheese.
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You said you're leaning town on a few people. Who?In post 522, CaptainS wrote:I need to what to now?
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This reads as genuine frustration (although to be fair Korina was genuinely frustrated people were going after them as a survivor even though they were really mafia last game)In post 526, Korina wrote:I'm not pulling the same thing as last time Nono. The same thing would be CLAIMING THAT I'M TOAD FROM MARIO, A SURVIVOR WITH A POST RESTRICTION WHERE I MUST TALK IN ALL CAPS OR I DIE.
I also don't like your insinuation that you *know* I'm scum again, when I know for a fact I'm a townie.
I would honest to god shoot you tonight, but a bullet goes to Vax tonight. You get shot tomorrow unless you flip. Sorry Nono, but I genuinely can't read you, and I want you out.
As for town roles that I pick, I literally said I submitted NK-Immune Miller Vig, or I would've submitted a Miller role just because I think it's funny. Alternatively, barring any of those, I would've submitted a vigi, because we know there are a lot of townies in this game, and I have a substantially higher chance of shooting not town, considering people can pick an IC, or clear themselves with town roles.
I honestly think Korina tells the truth. If I'm wrong feel free to shame me after since I literally just played this set-up with them as scum.In post 526, Korina wrote: Wrt me not being as disappointed, it's because I know I can be culted this time. I'll just say it now, you can practically eliminate my chances of being non-cult scum entirely. If I were to be non-cult scum, I'd have acted in a very similar way to how I did in TL's GIM, or outright try to bus my teammates to enable myself to be culted—although, like I said, I doubt anyone besides me submitted cult. Not to mention, I literally submitted mafia one-shot dayvig treestump, so it'd be obvious if I was scum. All of my picks, beyond my cult pick, were actually vigs with something funny attached to them. My town pick has miller, which I think is personally a really funny role in the first place. My scum pick was a treestump, which meant I'd flip at the start of the game, and then I get to threaten everyone with a dayvig, which I think is funny, and then after using it, continue to spam the thread.
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Can you explain why given the claims?In post 545, samantha97 wrote:
I've thought about it more and I actually think this is the best strategy given the claims + what I know myselfIn post 544, Raya36 wrote:
Let's not do this. There's still plenty of time for D1 anywayIn post 537, samantha97 wrote:this is the first game where I have actually wanted to vote no lynch-
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In post 554, TemporalLich wrote:
oh wow never heard of that flavor of OMGUS beforeIn post 552, Vaxkiller wrote:I swear your a jester Temp
Mahi, Guillo, not sure who else yetIn post 568, KidAmn wrote:@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.
So maybe you have good reason for a no elim, but why advertise ending the day early too. Town has 2 strong powers, ability to discuss during the day, and ability to eliminate...In post 569, samantha97 wrote:we can have this day over in 6 hours if we want
VOTE: no elim
only need 5 more votes
Definitely disagree. We can't reply on being able to mechanically solve a GIM game. Especially since it's bastard.In post 574, samantha97 wrote:
this isn't a normal game; we can lean on power rolesIn post 573, KidAmn wrote:biggest problem this place has is modern towns getting out-posted into apathy and hoping our PRs lead us to water and teach us peristalsis.-
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I don't do associations without flips. But I do acknowledge I'm wrong about one of you.In post 594, Guillotina wrote:
Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?In post 592, Raya36 wrote:In post 554, TemporalLich wrote:
oh wow never heard of that flavor of OMGUS beforeIn post 552, Vaxkiller wrote:I swear your a jester Temp
Mahi, Guillo, not sure who else yetIn post 568, KidAmn wrote:@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.
So maybe you have good reason for a no elim, but why advertise ending the day early too. Town has 2 strong powers, ability to discuss during the day, and ability to eliminate...In post 569, samantha97 wrote:we can have this day over in 6 hours if we want
VOTE: no elim
only need 5 more votes
Definitely disagree. We can't reply on being able to mechanically solve a GIM game. Especially since it's bastard.In post 574, samantha97 wrote:
this isn't a normal game; we can lean on power rolesIn post 573, KidAmn wrote:biggest problem this place has is modern towns getting out-posted into apathy and hoping our PRs lead us to water and teach us peristalsis.
I have you in my scumpool mainly because 480 looked like you were trying to find stuff to scumread, rather than genuinely scumreading VFP. I also really disagree with your take on Korina and I think Korina could appear to be an easier miselim considering the playstyle similarities on the surface level between this and last game-
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I caught that from Guillo earlier in another post too. Wouldn't scum be more aware of potential third parties or another team though?In post 607, VFP wrote:
Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.In post 568, KidAmn wrote:@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.
So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.In post 594, Guillotina wrote:Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?
Thanks for confirming this.
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AgreedIn post 621, TemporalLich wrote:nono's iso has too little content for me to judge
Exactly. No need to eliminate anyone who has claimed to be confirmable in the near feature. That's anti-townIn post 634, samantha97 wrote:
who cares if he is he claimed n1 confirmableIn post 627, Guillotina wrote:This guy is scum and fuck your no elimination shit Samantha. I rescind my offer to sheep you.
VOTE: VFP
Anything that opposes his point of view is "scum" to him.
there's more than enough time to get rid of him tomorrow if he lied
there's no reason to lie about that as mafia unless there's an angle to hide your alignment, which can still be caught with night actions
also going back on a double voter the same day you give it is bad form
???In post 638, mahimahi wrote:Sometimes I look back at my life and wonder to myself... how did it all come to this? All the ups, all the downs... the good times, and the bad times. I've been through a lot in life and it all led to this one moment, it all led to me rolling shellyc in a game of mafia.
At first I was confused. "shellyc? Well, I'm not shellyc, so what does that role even do?" Well, I shortly found out once Ircher put on his doctor's coat and started operating on me. I am now a perfect replica of shellyc, in mind, body, and most importantly, mafia skills. That's right, I am multiaccounting in this game... I just couldn't stop myself. I won't say how many of you are just alts of mine, but... I just want to say, I'm truly sorry.
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Associations aren't the same when there's potential third party or multiple groupscumIn post 644, Guillotina wrote:
What what? Raya scum reads mahi, i do too, but she is voting me after i called them a possible team earlier.In post 633, Flea The Magician wrote:
VOTE: GuillotinaIn post 594, Guillotina wrote:Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?
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My reason for Guillo is in that post and in others before itIn post 714, Flea The Magician wrote: Two questionable votes on this wagon, VFP and Raya. No context provided with either.
Also we still have a lot of time left. There's no need to eliminate yet. Let's give Guillo time to give reads as well as he just asked. UNVOTE: for now-
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This is a good example for why I don't think Guillo is town:
First, this just looks like he's trying to find something to scumread. That list was obviously not meant to be taken too seriously. Read as a low info early guess to see how close he can get to being right. The fact that Guillo is reading so much into it and trying to push the angle that VFP must be informed is scummy.In post 728, Guillotina wrote:
How does he come up with a read on me as a Cultist if there is no guarantee or signs that there is such a role?In post 143, VFP wrote:If I had to guess right now.
mahimahi+ - WW
Flea - town
Raya36 - scum
TemporalLich - town
Guillotina - cultist
Korina - town
Almost50 - town
KidAmn - town
Nono - SK
samantha97 - town
CaptainS - scum
Vaxkiller - scum
How possible is it that there is a cult leader role in a 13 players set up? Why would town worried about a slim chance that there is a cult leader when there is scum to catch?
VFP is also yet to explore all of those town reads. There is no way an uninformed town has so many town reads so early in the game.
VFP is saying that as in it reads as a good town response. He's not slipping and saying that town!Flea made a good response.In post 728, Guillotina wrote:
Possible TMI on Flea. Does he know Flea is town?In post 145, VFP wrote:I'm not sure what would prompt Flea to lie there. But I think it was a
good town responseso far.
If you actually think VFP is baiting visits from what was said then you must think VFP is town and baiting scum to visit. If that's the case why would you even point it out instead of just letting the bait work.In post 728, Guillotina wrote:
Are you trying to bait visits upon you?In post 343, VFP wrote:Yeah, I'm basically confirmed tonight or I'm gone tomorrow.
This is a really bad interpretation of what VFP said. People say we need a lim all the time. It doesn't mean we need any lim. It means we try to lim scum and if we're wrong that's ok because we still get info and we tried.In post 728, Guillotina wrote:
We need a lim? No, we need to lim scum, the way you are saying it here is that any lim is good and that mentality comes from anti-town parties.In post 541, VFP wrote:
This is actually one of the first posts I like from you.In post 537, samantha97 wrote:this is the first game where I have actually wanted to vote no lynch
But no,we need a limhere.
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With all of the above said, this post reads very town. I'm suspicious enough that I'm still considering this being a survivalistic scum post, but the read on me was good, I agree with the Lich read, I agree with the mahi read although it is definitely an easier mostly universal read this game, and the analysis on Korina was good and I agree that the vig shot isn't a 100% way to clear Korina but I do have a town meta-read on them.In post 770, Guillotina wrote:
How to explain this... I don't remember why I scum readIn post 755, Almost50 wrote:Can I get a short case on each of them? Like, one of them (I won't say which) is even higher than Korina on my own scale of townie-ness (that's to say if that slot is Scum I'm screwed)
KidAmnanymore, I know I picked up on something but I forgot about it while I was defending myself trying to prevent my elimination. (It's embarrassing I know).
My read onRayahas changed, I town lean her for now, the reasons are that she gave me a detail explanation of why she townreads Korina which made me look into his wiki to realize a few things. Raya also unvoted to give a chance to out reads at a point where as scum it would be just as easy to maintain her vote to get me chopped, half the playerlist was pile wagoning and it would be easy to wait for someone to just hammer me, but she didn't, she unvoted (i realized this upon looking into her ISO an hour ago), giving me a breather to out my suspicions and town up. Thank you.
I was scum readingTemporalfor his "resignation" comment on me in post 513 which i replied to in post 517
I thought that such comment couldn't organically come from a player with his experience, again as I stated in post 517.
I also didn't like his comment that even if I was mech clear town he'd still want to yeet me in post 678
However, I think no scum would admit that so openly. I mean, he could have been power wolfing but I don't think a wolf risks looking bad like that when people start reading ISOs to solve slots. Also he defends elimination on Day 1, which is something I agree on, I also think that a chop would give us more info as opposed to Samantha's proposition to not eliminate, or Korina's stance on yeeting anyone as long as it is not him or Vax, which I find rather mercurial, if not scummy altogether. The last point is that if Korina is scum and Temporal also is, I don't think he'd go out of his way to defend him, I think he genuinely believes in his read on Korina which is fair regardless of me thinking he is wrong or right about that read.
mahimahiis scum read for their continuous attempts at role fishing, they did it to Korina and they tried to hustle me into claiming my role. I'm also guessing he and Korina are scum but not necessarily from the same faction.
I still thinkKorinais most likely scum. I looked into his wiki to look up his town games and although it is true that he pulls out fake claims as town, he's felt more determine to solve in those games as opposed to how she played in Temporal's grand idea game and here, where all he's done is talking about mech stuff, his alleged chosen miller role and just creating chaos without attempting to solve. I'm failing to see what Raya and Temporal see when town reading Korina here.
Korina says that he can confirm himself by going through her vig by calling out his shots, but he can do it by carrying out the factional kill, all he gotta do is kill a townie, say that he called out the shot but he was terribly wrong about shooting a townie. I must confess i might be tunneled onto him for his performance in our last game where he randed scum and convinced a a good chunk of players that he was a survivor 3p and not giving him a proper chance, but I'm willing to give him the same chance that town has given me by yeeting someone else that I scumread today.
Our contract has expired Samantha, i just realized I'm not very good at sheeping people. UNVOTE: Korina
Definitely agree with this. Korina is quite good at manipulation so I'll need more than meta later on but for now it's enough for me to give a D1 townread.In post 771, TemporalLich wrote:My read on Korina is purely a metaread - I don't think Korina is acting the same way as in TL's GIM-
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1) Understandable but based on context I don't believe it was serious. Not really a joke, just a for fun this is my based off nothing guess. That's my interpretation at least.In post 783, Guillotina wrote: 1) First quote. The moment someone procures a read list, I do not take it as a joke so, I found it odd that someone would post a read list of people so early in the game. I was not looking for reasons to scum read VFP, I just thought it was scummy plain and simple.
2) Well to me it looked like a slip and ive been playing this game for two decades and I often catch them on Day 1 more than any other day. But maybe I'm just tunneled.
3) Ok. Fair. Maybe I'm just deathtunneled onto VFP, I'll step back and try to start reading the thread without a tunnel.
4) A healthy amount of skepticism is good.
2) I think you're just tunneled honestly. I say stuff like that all the time. To me "a good town response" = "this response is good and reads town". I don't think scum would be so unaware to announce someone they know is town as town like that.
Going to put Guillo in my null pile now. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and say he could really just be town tunneled on VFP-
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Not that I'm complaining but why am I not ew?In post 793, VFP wrote:In post 785, TemporalLich wrote:might as well jump off Guillo as I like 783
still scummy but I had overestimated my SR on guillo
VOTE: mahimahi
EwIn post 786, KidAmn wrote:VOTE: mahimahi
As previously stated, rolefishing hard with the promise of totally getting a bunch of doc shots out of it, you guys + I believe this helps sort what was, I'm fairly certain, not a TvT situation with Korina at the start of the day.-
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You can't explain why your play doesn't match your role thoughIn post 799, mahimahi wrote:rolefishing does not come from scum 80% of the time for the simple reason that it looks scummy for obvious reasons. Scum avoids doing things that look scummy. Especially in a game like this where you need to out survive 2+ other scum factions
it comes from town who has good reason to want to know people's roles based on their own role
but I don't really mind anymore. I've had a change of heart and I crave ascension. Ascension from this game, and to a greater plane of existence. Please place the two remaining votes on my mahi and release me from this absyall realm. I love you all.
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I was just basing it off the flavour for mahi's "elimination". It said they were protected by a bright light. So I checked the GIM thread for protects involving light. I found a light demon.In post 878, Vaxkiller wrote:
huh?In post 874, Raya36 wrote:I looked into the GIM thread and there was only one role that involved light and a protect and it matched but idk why anyone would choose it. If it's that role than it doesn't confirm anything about Mahi-
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