2235: Gensokyo ~ END ~

[SirCakez]

VOTE: lukewarm

[SirCakez]

I wish I did not just see whatever the hell Norwe posted lol

[SirCakez]

It's literally just Touhou music.

too much weeb

I didn't sign up to actually play mafia, i signed up to vibe with fellow Touhou fans.

I'm the opposite q.q I don't know anything about this stuff

VOTE: Aaron

Pure gut. No evidence.

Meanwhile while we run up Gamma for an RVS reason, we ignore Aaron.

This is super disingenuous

VOTE: Titus

[SirCakez]

there is way too much roleplaying here <.<

[SirCakez]

I guess

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

[SirCakez]

Norwe you shouldn't have claimed the second part - that's not negative utility...

[SirCakez]

What use would it be?
Like maybe i’d delay the nightkill for one night or something at best?

yeah and that's pretty good, no?

[SirCakez]

it could essentially function as a guilty if we know who was targeted and then there are two nightkills the next night

[SirCakez]

@Lukewarm- Aaron has made zero effort to actually scum hunt in the thread, only dance. That being said, I am debating moving my vote to SirCakez. His defense on Aaron is too strong and aggressive for a slot that has no content.

lmao do it

[SirCakez]

Titus why are you so obsessed with Aaron when you said your only reason for voting him was gut?

[SirCakez]

Good to know this thread has already peaked with 91. It's all downhill from here!

UNVOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Sanae

There's been far too much fluff RP nonsense in this thread. Would be willing to vote for Aaron as well, though I feel like Aaron is at least making slightly more of an effort to actually play the game (Note: Jester talk does not count as effort to play the game) despite the very low content.

I'm guessing Yukari's SDM-specific ire is based on SDM member behavior in past FakeGod Touhou UPicks, but I could be wrong.

do you think the RP is AI?

[SirCakez]

Good to know this thread has already peaked with 91. It's all downhill from here!

UNVOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Sanae

There's been far too much fluff RP nonsense in this thread. Would be willing to vote for Aaron as well, though I feel like Aaron is at least making slightly more of an effort to actually play the game (Note: Jester talk does not count as effort to play the game) despite the very low content.

I'm guessing Yukari's SDM-specific ire is based on SDM member behavior in past FakeGod Touhou UPicks, but I could be wrong.

do you think the RP is AI?

I think the phrasing of that question is a bit of an oversimplification of the situation.

To me, the RP not only contributes nothing meaningful, it pulls the thread in the wrong direction. RVS is Silliness Central, sure, but RP does nothing to help us get out of that into serious times, and once some people have moved into serious times, continuing the RP serves to try to drag the thread back toward unhelpful silliness. Unhelpful silliness is bad for town and good for mafia, ergo my opinions and vote.

I don't understand what you're getting at
Obviously you think the RP is not good for the thread state
But like..do you think scum are doing it intentionally?

Explain to me about what makes Titus obvious town and why the posts she made are outside of her scum game.

I do not like this post.

Who is outside of their scum range on page 10?

Why does a strong town read day 1 have to be outside of their scum range?

Who are you town reading?

This line of thinking feels like someone who is not sorting, but instead thinking about keeping town blocks from forming

I agree with this and Yukari has already been pinging me.

[SirCakez]

I wish we would stop RPing. Quite frankly, it makes it hard to read the DP.

this point has already been made multiple times, why make such a useless post?

I wish we would stop RPing. Quite frankly, it makes it hard to read the DP.

Counterpoint: this is an mini theme game for weebs.

But I don't play mafia to RP.

also this feels vaguely LAMIST

Also, what are you tentatively seeing?

Oh, that was directed at me? Right now, not much. We have a Hydra, so maybe I'll wait until the other person gets on. I think Town already outted too many roles. I don't have the motivation atm but I'll ISO Norwee and see what I think then.

also this is ridiculous - literally one person claimed

VOTE: Reg

[SirCakez]

I don't have time to formally address your post Cakez but both LLD and Norwee claimed.

Oh yeah I forgot about LLD's voteless
I'm not even sure you can call that a claim really because it was public information

also this is ridiculous - literally one person claimed

Is that the one you found the most concerning about that post?

I'd say it was roughly even across the three posts i mentioned

[SirCakez]

If Reg doesn't want to share off-site games for personal reasons I don't see an issue with that

[SirCakez]

I'm not saying he can't be scum, but like... Try to find other reasons to scumread him?

This
I have plenty of others so I don't see a need to go down this tunnel

[SirCakez]

I'm not sure I'm following this safety matter. I mean if it's a public forum, it's entirely that, public. I know the chances of actually coming across the site that your on is very very slim with the amount of public domains that are out there, but I'm failing to see why it's 1) a safety thing, 2) denying someone just wanting to check out your meta when you have little over here.

It doesn't bother me about you not wanting to share this, but I just find that it's suspicious that your wanting to conceal something that isn't really a big deal in my eyes.

I used to play mafia on another website a long time ago, I never shared this information because it was never asked, or never mentioned, but if anyone asked at the time I was playing across here to wanting to see it, I wouldn't have had any issue sending them across.

I don't understand why this even matters
I SR Reg and I don't think there's anything wrong with what he's saying. Why push on something he feels is personal?

[SirCakez]

I don't know how to express my thoughts on norwee, in the tone of the dance, so I might just break for a moment to speak plainly.

I think that his use of his town crier ability almost always comes from town. Like, he just made a dumb joke post that said his own name in it multiple times, therefore pointing attention and questions directly his way. That is like, the opposite of what he would want as scum I believe. Furthermore, the lack of direction with the post, lack of a goal, makes it harder to believe that he has a team behind him. I feel like a scum!Norwee with a town crier role, would have sparked a debate in the scum chat about how to use the ability, so it likely would not be being used yet while they try to come up with a strategic way to use it. Claiming his second ability, while probably not the greatest plan, also seems townie as well. The ability is possibly (probably?) verifiable dependent on the other abilities of the table, plus I would expect scum Norwee to want to keep his claim options open a little. So, I believe scum!Norwee would just claim the towncrier portion of his role.

~~~

I have encountered Kakeguri once before, as well as the Mary head alone once as well. I seem to remember there being a bit of role play coming from the Mary head in those games (and those were games where no one else was doing it) so the role play did not bother me. Furthermore, their reaction to Yukari's 228 felt very similar to my own, which similar thoughts makes me want to believe in similar alignments. Again, they are not on the same level as Norwee or Titus, but it was something that slid them higher then null, which is where the majority of the room is still sitting atm.

What has caused them to become a main suspect in your eyes?

I certainly hope that I am not disappointing, even if I had to break form for a bit.

I'm townbinning Lukewarm for this post
The analysis of Norwe comes from an incredibly town mindset IMO

Also I see I am at E-2, so I'll claim. I'll note there are silly reasons to vote me, like Gamma who basically just voted me because I didn't do anything of note. My role/ability allows me to grant one wish once during the game. During twilight I can make the mod ask everyone for a wish. The wish can't kill anyone or change alignments or anything broken. Then I get all the wishes (I don't know who wished for what) and can grant one.

this could be a mafia ability tbf
and the rush to claim is REALLY weird

I *think* I could also go Gamma

[SirCakez]

this game needs more LLD

[SirCakez]

My brain has retained zero thoughts regarding anything said by : Sanae, Kilga, Kop, and Gamma. That makes me feel like there is likely 1-2 scum in that list, but would take a deeper reread for me to sort through then I can realistically do atm...

we have a decently similar scumpool except I'd keep Reg in there and take out Kilga and Sanae (who I'm ambivalent about but have not seen anything that says "scum!" to me)

[SirCakez]

meh I just remembered that Kop is usually limbait though
ugh I think I need to go through the weebname people who all sound similarly to me (Yukari, Sanae, Kakeguri)

[SirCakez]

I'm willing to give it a day

VOTE: Gamma
this is fine too

[SirCakez]

@SirCakez

How is it a mafia role? I don't know who sent the wish. If its a mafia, role I can just ask my scumteam what they wished for. Additionally I can TELL them what to wish for.

Exactly that's why it could be scum..

[SirCakez]

Couldn't we wish for like
An extra elim

[SirCakez]

are any limits explicitly stated?

[SirCakez]

Be here tomorrow sorry really busy day

[SirCakez]

In the morning i know deadline is close

[SirCakez]

I expect any wishes granted have a cost. Why is that a detail that ended up lost?
VOTE: RegRider
Unless the answer satiates my concern, I think that this player must burn.

this post irks me and I think it's what scum!Gamma would be doing here.

page 23 - I like Lukewarm's posting here and I agree w him that LLD could be scum (altho not for the reasons he said w the Hider stuff)
if its a 1v1 I would vote LLD

Guys Day 1 ends in less than two days. We have no major wagon. Vote Kila out with me.

I have no interest in this

VOTE: kilgamayan
I’d honestly be fine with any on the prior list, except Yukari, whose efforts seem in earnest.

this fucking sucks

[SirCakez]

im still reading but I feel like absolute shit today
i'm gonna do my best to be here

[SirCakez]

666 (heh) reads townily. The thought process is there.

I don't believe revealing Lukewarm's alignment does much for this game. I think there are different ways to sort him even if we do leave him alive. Using a cop on him feels like a huge waste. I would rather use a day elim on him than a cop especially given he is currently in a 1v1 with someone.

I think the cop is much better used on someone like Yukari, Sanae, or Kakeguri.

but urgh this is not good
I don't like that Aaron is pushing against the "reveal Luke alignment" plan. makes me think Luke is gonna be revealed as town and make Aaron look bad.

[SirCakez]

norwe's interactions with lld read town tbf.
My #1 choice for an elim is Gamma - it looks like he would literally elim anyone and I don't see any evidence he actually cares about who dies.
I'd also do Aaron ig because I think it would reveal a lot about the gamestate and he looks worse in the Luke argument. Titus has also looked bad all game and no one has really talked about her.

[SirCakez]

Reg and LLD could be scum but I want to punt them down the road for now.

[SirCakez]

Beyond your vote movement it just feels like you don't really care what happens.

[SirCakez]

Gamma is a Luke partner

I disagree

[SirCakez]

I also feel like Cakez is town here, I’m not on the fence, Cabd clause probably isn’t in effect because of my current impotence.

What is Cabd clause?

[SirCakez]

Yo Cakez.

You can LLD test me on Norwee, if you have doubts. I've only grown more confident.

Hi
What is LLD test?
Entice me

[SirCakez]

Yo Cakez.

You can LLD test me on Norwee, if you have doubts. I've only grown more confident.

I’ve got to say one thing. And that is, if i actually get eliminated day 1 from one of the most anticipated games i’ve had in a long time and because of the fragile ego of some tryhard that thinks my natural personality is scum indicative i’m going to get very pissed off and have a lot of things to say to LLD post-game.

This doesn't read like scum :/

[SirCakez]

Yo Cakez.

You can LLD test me on Norwee, if you have doubts. I've only grown more confident.

Yo Cakez.

You can LLD test me on Norwee, if you have doubts. I've only grown more confident.

I’ve got to say one thing. And that is, if i actually get eliminated day 1 from one of the most anticipated games i’ve had in a long time and because of the fragile ego of some tryhard that thinks my natural personality is scum indicative i’m going to get very pissed off and have a lot of things to say to LLD post-game.

Kakeguri is definitely on my radar
They have done shit all today

[SirCakez]

Fuck this stupid quotes bug neither of those should be there

[SirCakez]

I can't even parse that

[SirCakez]

I got it lol
Given two of my srs are firing up this wagon I'm hesitant to join

[SirCakez]

I got it lol
Given two of my srs are firing up this wagon I'm hesitant to join

Just who exactly are you scumreading?

At various levels, you, Gamma, Aaron, LLD, and Kakeguri

[SirCakez]

VOTE: kakeguri whatever

[SirCakez]

lowkey feeling icky about the Kakeguri elim but ig we'll see..

[SirCakez]

are we supposed to be sending in a wish? haven't heard anything from mod

[SirCakez]

Well i’d love to see any reads or: "hey guys! I was town!" From them, but they are not doing that at all.

this is very true!

[SirCakez]

ok the LLD wish is fine w me

[SirCakez]

mod maybe offline all day?

[SirCakez]

Still need to read but i wished for the lld Luke loud parity cop

[SirCakez]

luke - I am sad about what you did last night

[SirCakez]

I don't think Gamma is scum anymore based on his entrance today

VOTE: sanae
this person was kinda under the radar day 1 and has terrible associatives with Kakeguri (literally did not talk about them at all day 1)

[SirCakez]

i also don't think Reg is scum anymore

LLD is looking bad here as well imo

[SirCakez]

Yukari looks solidly town on play
I think we win if we run a lawn mower through (Sanae, LLD, Kilga, Norwe)

[SirCakez]

in that order

[SirCakez]

The second wish in 1006 was mine. I had a nagging worry that "Confirm Specific Person X Is Town In The Thread" might get denied by the GM so I figured I'd throw in something slightly weaker but still potentially useful in order to keep options open.

I'm really suspicious of how Cakez handled the Kakeguri situation. 873, which was posted while Kakeguri was being lightly discussed but had no votes, was pretty enthused for the idea that Kakeguri could be Mafia. The instant people start putting vote pressure in that direction, though (878, 879), he gets cold feet (885). Only after RegRider further forces the issue with his vote in 897 does Cakez finally cast his Kakeguri vote (898), probably with the realization that he can't possibly do anything else in that situation without tying himself even more tightly to Kakeguri.

I realize I can't beat the "tried to stall the Kakeguri train" drum as loudly as I'd like given Luke was even worse about it but has since been confirmed town, but this is still really suspect behavior.

this is a fair argument and I get how it looks
the only thing I can say is that at the time I was not confident in Kakeguri being scum and would have preferred others for elim.
Obviously I was wrong but what can you do?

[SirCakez]

Man I have this paranoia Luke is a godfather from how hard Luke pushed to be copped.

And Hider claim is an excellent way not to die even after being confirmed...

Luke needs to be voted out the day BEFORE ELO if he's still alive. Just saying.

eurgh


I really don't like Sanae's entrance here today
but that role is probably town...
bleh
I'll join this Kilga wagon

VOTE: kilgamayan

[SirCakez]

i also don't think Reg is scum anymore

LLD is looking bad here as well imo

In what way do I look bad, Cakez?

you spent a bunch of time spatting with Luke who is now conftown (I'm not buying that godfather bs)
and generally a lot of other people look townier than you

luke - I am sad about what you did last night

I do not have any idea what this means. Please enlighten me

did you receive a request for something at the beginning of night yesterday? just say yes/no don't elaborate

I wish for a loud parity cop targetting me and Luke.

Still need to read but i wished for the lld Luke loud parity cop

I asked the mod if I had wished for a loud parity cop targeting me and LLD, would the wish be accepted, and the mod said that it would have been accepted.

So, I need some answers from the two of you

What I am looking for here is for the two of you to pm the mod to see if your wish was accepted.

If no, then why was it not accepted.

@sircakez
@lld

doing this now

I don't really have a response to 1176.

[SirCakez]

?

i have always wanted to yeet kilga

i know what sircakes role is from aaron and I don't think he is mafia from the role description and I can share what his role is if people want me to but I don't see the point in doing so?

Can you not? unless it's like really needed

@cakes

aaron told me to ask you what yen is

I need it from people, it gives me good things.

I was told my night action was successful but failed (which doesn't make sense unless you know my role so just roll with it)

[SirCakez]

dang I'm bummed Luke repped out

[SirCakez]

ok basically I requested yen from Lukewarm/StrangeMatter last night
I was told my action was successful but I did not get yen
Meaning I believe that Luke declined to give me yen which I don't understand and now Luke is gone so we probably won't

[SirCakez]

I don't want to say atm but it's good

[SirCakez]

no I'm Reimu Hakurei

[SirCakez]

Pick one dude

[SirCakez]

I have been told my wish was accepted
Wat

[SirCakez]

What was your wish again?

Loud lld/Luke parity cop

[SirCakez]

I have no fucking clue

[SirCakez]

What was your wish again?

Loud lld/Luke parity cop

The Loud modifier wouldn't be a good fit because only you would get the results.

Loud announces to the whole game though

[SirCakez]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[SirCakez]

If you think Kilga is town why dont you do something about the wagon?

[SirCakez]

I know but she's literally just sitting there and let Kilga die basically

[SirCakez]

I know but she's literally just sitting there and let Kilga die basically

Few reasons.

1) Not a hard townread compared to rest of my townreads
2) I think if he flips it will give a lot of info regardless my read on him
3) Lazy and tired irl but this is not really a game factor

okay I guess

[SirCakez]

if the game is really apathetic then we should yeet and move on
not rocket science

[SirCakez]

Norwee can you revote kilga

I do probably think Cakez is more likely town than Kilga yeah.

okay so vote Kilga?

[SirCakez]

Norwee can you revote kilga

I do probably think Cakez is more likely town than Kilga yeah.

okay so vote Kilga?

Are you that sure they are scum?

no but you're not voting anyone at all and it'd be more helpful if you were on a wagon

[SirCakez]

I have no vote but if I had one it'd be on Cakez

it's hard to take you seriously when you're trying to argue that Lukeslot is a Godfather rather than just admitting you were wrong...

[SirCakez]

It’s not Kilga’s wish we’re worried about, it’s cakez’s

what do you think I actually did, then?

I have no vote but if I had one it'd be on Cakez

it's hard to take you seriously when you're trying to argue that Lukeslot is a Godfather rather than just admitting you were wrong...

I'm not arguing it, and I said it wasn't worth arguing it until later. But it's a real concern with this mechanic I want people to remember and I want to say it now so when I'm alive later, because I'll be alive later, if it becomes a problem, people will understand I had this fear.

Consider it the setup moves of someone who knows they're going to be alive this entire game and trying to ensure I cover bases. I have to play differently this game.

if there was a GF wouldn't this game also be bastard?

@SirCakez: Are you 100% positive your wish was accepted?

That's what I was told guys
So something funky happened somewhere
Why does this even matter? Clearly a bunch of wishes went missing if Reg only got 4.

[SirCakez]

why would Reg be lying? this role doesn't make any sense as scum

[SirCakez]

ok then I don't really want to talk about the wishes anymore

[SirCakez]

I want to stay on Kilga I hate how they've reacted to this wagon
Also Sanae's claim would be a really weird claim for scum to make

oh shit deadline is 8 hours wtf

[SirCakez]

Yukari hammer Kilga like you promised

[SirCakez]

Who will give me yen?

[SirCakez]

Can we see flip before second elim?

[SirCakez]

Wow my reads have been amazing this game

[SirCakez]

Wow we have two hours to elim!

[SirCakez]

VOTE: yukari

[SirCakez]

I honestly think it's just Yukari but if not it's Reg or LLD

[SirCakez]

Strange hammer pls

[SirCakez]

There's no way we can elim i think
I guess we can do Reg?

[SirCakez]

Norwe you better fucking give me yen

[SirCakez]

Can y'all not block me because my role will be very good IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS

[SirCakez]

Hello - sorry I could not stay in this game, but I did kinda follow along.

I am curious why cakes thought I did not give him money, because I definitely did. Much confusion on my part when that started happening, and then apparently strangmatter did not know that I said yes to help clear it up.

unwnd told me I didn't get money! i don't know what happened

good game y'all

[SirCakez]

Oh, Aaron is why cakez didn't get my money lol

ahhh mystery solved