Infernal Affairs - Game Over!

Firebringer · Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:08 pm

im gonna pretend this is youtube:
first

Firebringer · Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:10 pm

hellbrooks even though u joked i fully expect u to commit to ur pregame promise.

I too will be watching a movie not this one because why would i stay on theme. that seems silly.

I am going to watch one of the pirates of carribean movies.
Because i haven't watched one of those in a good 6-8 months

Firebringer · Post Post #4 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:13 pm

also i already have a read this game:
Toogeloo is town.

How do I know?
Toogeloo is never scum.
Its a mafia rule at this point, any arguing with this will have me looking at u funny and calling u bad for challenging this common knowledge.

Firebringer · Post Post #8 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:18 pm

hello STD i am shocked u didn't enter this game with a song.
kind of sus if u ask me

Firebringer · Post Post #9 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:19 pm

In post 6, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: firebringer
First three posters have scum I think or something like that idk

i was the first three posts so that means its confirmed

Firebringer · Post Post #11 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:20 pm

Not Mafia i preferred it when u said shit. this fecal matter swap out just isn't working for me.
Did u get reported for saying shit or something

Firebringer · Post Post #10 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:20 pm

Not Mafia i preferred it when u said shit. this fecal matter swap out just isn't working for me.
Did u get reported for saying shit or something

Firebringer · Post Post #14 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:21 pm

In post 12, Tejate Raichu wrote:Neat, I'm actually early to a thread this time. I see some familiar faces in the playerlist.

Anyways, back to more pressing matters: I'm sorry to be the one to say this, but I did see Keeper take a devil deal on basement 2.

VOTE: The Keeper

not voting me is a scum claim.

Firebringer · Post Post #16 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:21 pm

In post 13, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 10, Firebringer wrote:Not Mafia i preferred it when u said shit. this fecal matter swap out just isn't working for me.
Did u get reported for saying shit or something
Yeah I was warned for it

How dare the mods try to take away our fecal matter like this

Firebringer · Post Post #19 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:23 pm

i mean its got to have at least a few thematic songs in it. idk if u call that a theme song or what but i would be shocked if it had no songs.

Firebringer · Post Post #23 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:26 pm

I will only accept those terms if u lockscum me.

Firebringer · Post Post #28 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:34 pm

In post 24, Tejate Raichu wrote:You drive a hard bargain. I'm in.

i learned how to negotiate from the best Kain Tepes

Firebringer · Post Post #29 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:35 pm

how is it going galron

Firebringer · Post Post #31 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:38 pm

im clearly scum here. don't u slander me

Firebringer · Post Post #33 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:40 pm

ill see u in court

Firebringer · Post Post #35 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:43 pm

my only goal this game is to not fall into any scum pockets. So therefore if i never trust anyone, i can't be pocketed.
Instant victory condition

my reads in divide and conquer so bad. Shameful. Disgraceful.
I should really blame norwee for it all

Firebringer · Post Post #40 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:45 pm

In post 34, Andante wrote:VOTE: Galron
Voting Fire? must make you maf Galron! I haven't seen a townier town than Fire!!

Galron just votes me because that is how he shows me he loves me

Firebringer · Post Post #43 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:46 pm

In post 42, Andante wrote:
In post 35, Firebringer wrote:my only goal this game is to not fall into any scum pockets. So therefore if i never trust anyone, i can't be pocketed.
Instant victory condition

my reads in divide and conquer so bad. Shameful. Disgraceful.
I should really blame norwee for it all
wow blaming someone else for bad reads? minus town points for you... still a towny town though!

blaming others is how i cope with defeats tho

Firebringer · Post Post #46 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:48 pm

In post 44, Tejate Raichu wrote:I was about to ask why your I had an accent.

Anyways, let me be the first to quickly ask something about the setup since I haven't really played many closed setups before. When I was reading through the rules, I didn't see anything regarding counts of specific factions. Based on your guys' experience, do you think it's possible there may be a neutral wincon role in this setup?

Could be. Its pooky so i am guessing the chances are slightly negative.....
i don't remember him ever playing that much around with neutrals

Firebringer · Post Post #49 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:50 pm

i would like all votes on galron to be transferred to me.

Galron how much selling those votes on urself for?

Firebringer · Post Post #51 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:52 pm

In post 50, MagikHorse wrote:
In post 46, Firebringer wrote:
In post 44, Tejate Raichu wrote:I was about to ask why your I had an accent.

Anyways, let me be the first to quickly ask something about the setup since I haven't really played many closed setups before. When I was reading through the rules, I didn't see anything regarding counts of specific factions. Based on your guys' experience, do you think it's possible there may be a neutral wincon role in this setup?
Could be. Its pooky so i am guessing the chances are slightly negative.....
i don't remember him ever playing that much around with neutrals
Meh, don't really care so much about setup spec unless theyre really heavily known for it or the theme is just perfectly set up for it.

Then again I still haven't watched the source yet so what do I know?

You know nothing, Jon Snow

Firebringer · Post Post #53 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:52 pm

also ur vote is bad and u should feel bad.
vote me as ur president.

Firebringer · Post Post #55 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:54 pm

Ty STD.
Free town points to u

Firebringer · Post Post #57 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:55 pm

my partner is obviously andante

Firebringer · Post Post #62 (isolation #24) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:03 pm

okay fine. don't vote me.

but once the election is over and u all see Galron didn't have what it takes to be the leader of this town.
Ohhhh you will be sorry....

So very sorry u didn't vote me. Because i had BIG IDEAS
I was thinking karaoke nights, poker tournaments, open bars.
It would have been great

Firebringer · Post Post #70 (isolation #25) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:07 pm

Texas Holdem is the only true poker

Firebringer · Post Post #153 (isolation #26) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:44 am

In post 138, Nero Cain wrote:*3rd post

and I don't see why not? Like I'm not saying its a fire-tire panda team or anything just that I don't think Fire "shitposting" and calling for votes on himself is particularly pro-town.

of course, he and others will just wright it off as shitposting and say that scum wouldn't bring that much attention to themselves

but that's how I feel so eh

Calling me not pro town when I bring an open bar?
Rude.

Cain is mostly right no one should have read on me yet I haven’t even started my grand solving try hardness yet

Firebringer · Post Post #154 (isolation #27) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:45 am

In post 92, hellbooks wrote:
In post 2, Firebringer wrote:im gonna pretend this is youtube:
first
mary oliver

VOTE: andante
just looking to fill my hot take quota for the day

I never win points in that game!!!

Firebringer · Post Post #155 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:47 am

In post 118, hellbooks wrote:
In post 116, Andante wrote:That’s a spicy take!!! Sounds like you have a reason for it, and I’d LOVE to hear it
ok ! ! !
let me just share it to u in secret... (i dont want the randos to hear!)

whisper whisper whisper whisper

pretty good right?!?!?

In post 126, hellbooks wrote:
In post 121, Andante wrote:wow… so spicy!! love it tbh!!!
i feel like im being strongarmed into wanting to townread you from you being likeable

Low key scumreading hellbrooks here
Or maybe high key
Whichever key is the one that plays best solo

Firebringer · Post Post #156 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:48 am

In post 100, Galron wrote:Apologies again, FB, for stealing your wagon.

I will not forget or forgive

Firebringer · Post Post #157 (isolation #30) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:50 am

In post 128, Andante wrote:
In post 126, hellbooks wrote:
In post 121, Andante wrote:wow… so spicy!! love it tbh!!!
i feel like im being strongarmed into wanting to townread you from you being likeable
That’s not a bad thing!!! I’m town! Feel free to TR me

@CSF I mean, it’s not a TR I’d die for, just an early gut read I had, consider it a town lean vs lock town read, and I liked the overall energy coming into the game, felt like Fire wasn’t afraid to post/afraid of appearance, was just having fun, breaking the ice, making it super easy for people to make an entrance. That kind of stuff I generally view as townier rather than as scum behaviors

Wait were u really townreading me

I feel like at this point u should know that’s my personality ur town reading not play

Firebringer · Post Post #158 (isolation #31) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:52 am

In post 137, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 136, Nero Cain wrote:actually on 2nd thought Fire could totally do what he's doing as scum.
Would he buddy me, of all people, post 1?

Since when is just pointing out ur always town considered buddying

Firebringer · Post Post #159 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:53 am

In post 140, Andante wrote:I didn't take Fire's post as buddying you, so this feels odd.. like, is Fire your scum partner and you feel like he's being caught, so now you feel the need to go "but as scum would he buddy me?" Fire is fire... does random stuff as both town and scum, of all the things said thus far, this stands out the most to me, like, it feels like you are genuinely defending fire here, but there's almost nothing game related to defend off of.

This raises further questions on why u townread me!!!

Firebringer · Post Post #163 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:01 am

Pooky taking away my earned votes smh

Firebringer · Post Post #166 (isolation #34) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:05 am

This was my last scum game
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88484

Firebringer · Post Post #169 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:11 am

The tone dissonance, yeah first post sounds like hell is messing around with /annoyed sarcasm then the next post sounds not all aligned with that. Especially with previous ones. It’s big mood shifts

Firebringer · Post Post #170 (isolation #36) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:12 am

In post 168, MagikHorse wrote:
In post 166, Firebringer wrote:This was my last scum game
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88484
Okay yeah, Firebringer did do the whole "I'm scum scumread me" thing as actual scum too. Very mild townlean retracted, clearly this is the scummiest of the scums in the universe.

King of the scums thank you very much

Firebringer · Post Post #197 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:09 am

In post 175, hellbooks wrote:
In post 169, Firebringer wrote:The tone dissonance, yeah first post sounds like hell is messing around with /annoyed sarcasm then the next post sounds not all aligned with that. Especially with previous ones. It’s big mood shifts
i'm gathering evidence! if you act at someone they'll act right back!

what evidence did u gather

Firebringer · Post Post #199 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:16 am

In post 180, The Keeper wrote:I can bring a Metronome if it helps?

would be useful

Firebringer · Post Post #200 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:17 am

In post 188, The Keeper wrote:I suppose I should grab the Starter Deck and show my cards.

Anytime I am misgendered, I will post the count in thread, quote the post and it will be ignored entirely.
I vote only twice per day.
I will make as many Isaac references as I can.
Behind the gimmick, I do still low key solve.

whats in the starter deck

Firebringer · Post Post #202 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:20 am

that dwlee is inconsistent?

Firebringer · Post Post #229 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:14 am

In post 222, Toogeloo wrote:2. You have no idea what this p list is capable of. This p list belongs a lower tier than Mos Eisley residents.

too bad we don't have the bar music playing from mos eisley tho

Firebringer · Post Post #235 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:21 am

well this game just got alot better with that playing my background

Firebringer · Post Post #238 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:23 am

nero cain when u gonna aggressively push someone.
this is tamest ive seen u in awhile

Firebringer · Post Post #241 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:27 am

what if we just yeeted angel before she arrived.
pretty troll if u ask me

Firebringer · Post Post #243 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:28 am

u can catch up on those 8 pages during therapy

Firebringer · Post Post #245 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:31 am

ive decided im not gonna call anyone town this game. excluding the one townread i gave toog at beginning.
from here on ur either in my yeet pool or my non yeet pool.

which i guess u could call scum or not scum pool but u would be very wrong for i intend to put some of my scumreads in non yeet pool for various reasons.
i will announce scumreads as they come to me but u will never know how far on the scale u are.
and therefore the scum will never 100% know where they stand with me.

I think this is a good plan.

Firebringer · Post Post #247 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:36 am

i only help those who help themselves

Firebringer · Post Post #249 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:38 am

we gain nothing from the death of our hero miltank

Firebringer · Post Post #251 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:41 am

u know whats funny is i had no idea what u were talking about with 246 and thought that post said "riding" not "ridding"
knowing its not mafia makes the riding mistake very funny to me.

Firebringer · Post Post #254 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:42 am

i don't think not mafia makes any strawberry milk
if he did i might consider joining u.

Firebringer · Post Post #257 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:46 am

In post 255, Not_Mafia wrote:I make moo moo milk you pihlistines

do u make it or do u just always drop it by coincidence.
think about that one

Firebringer · Post Post #269 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:35 pm

In post 258, Nero Cain wrote:but real talk: anytime you guys are rdy to throw toog or fire into the sarlacc pit just lemme know

jokes on u. i am the sarlacc pit

Firebringer · Post Post #295 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:42 pm

In post 280, Andante wrote:cause that sounds like playing to win...

just as fyi i get triggered when people say im gamethrowing/not playing to win.
so i would appreciate u not to do so.

ty

Firebringer · Post Post #297 (isolation #54) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:46 pm

nero do u actually think toog is possible scum here or u just arguing with my initial logic that toog is never town just to be a contrarian.
cause ur point about toog being fluffy is really not holding any water here

Firebringer · Post Post #298 (isolation #55) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:46 pm

In post 297, Firebringer wrote:nero do u actually think toog is possible scum here or u just arguing with my initial logic that toog is never town just to be a contrarian.
cause ur point about toog being fluffy is really not holding any water here

toog is never scum*

Firebringer · Post Post #299 (isolation #56) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:49 pm

In post 284, Nero Cain wrote:idk man, saying "im not hard town reading X" "but X shouldn't be considered for elimination for the next day or 2." and it just seems sorta like talking out of both sides of your mouth

no it isn't. its saying i don't need to think about x for a day or two which is plenty fair given its a large theme.

Firebringer · Post Post #301 (isolation #57) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:52 pm

if we are going to sit here and argue about if toog has done anything townie. then i declare u winner
i bet toog is town given pure gamblers fallacy. I have no game content to say im right. Though i kind of liked his post about me pocketing him, but i have to wince really hard to see it as +town

Firebringer · Post Post #302 (isolation #58) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:54 pm

also as another push back. I am not going to argue with u or anyone on why X is town. I am just gonna argue why ur points r shit if ur pushing someone scum i think are shit.

Firebringer · Post Post #304 (isolation #59) » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:56 pm

i appreciate ur confidence in my ability. when scum appear i will let u know.
my only scum lean is hellbrooks so if u want to push someone i give u free pass there without me giving u any sass

Firebringer · Post Post #401 (isolation #60) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:20 pm

VOTE: Keeper
my first spicy vote for the game.

Firebringer · Post Post #402 (isolation #61) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:21 pm

In post 377, Galron wrote:Let's kill someone.

In post 378, Tejate Raichu wrote:Are you volunteering?

In post 379, Galron wrote:Yeah, why not. Gather the votes.

In post 380, MagikHorse wrote:Already there.

I enjoyed this sequence.
Galron channeling his inner firebringer

Firebringer · Post Post #404 (isolation #62) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:23 pm

In post 360, Frogsterking wrote:@hell 350

There are enough days left to move the execution onto MagikHorse. I think it's pessimistic to assume Magik is a vanity wagon.

I'm more afraid of scum!Magik running away with the game compared to scum!Tejate.

What is scummy about Magik or u just pushing this because of fear

Firebringer · Post Post #407 (isolation #63) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:25 pm

I don't like how ur hiding behind a gimmick.

Firebringer · Post Post #409 (isolation #64) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:27 pm

Also ur posting is like literally not cogent to understand a mindset which is even worse than using a gimmick, because ur making this a guessing game of what the hell r u trying to say or get at with ur posts.

But gimmick usage to hide intentions is good enough for a good push.

Firebringer · Post Post #410 (isolation #65) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:31 pm

hellbrooks did u find anything interesting yet

Firebringer · Post Post #411 (isolation #66) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:33 pm

Magik what game r u talking about? i literally don't remember playing with u

Firebringer · Post Post #412 (isolation #67) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:42 pm

In post 351, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Official Vote Count

Tejate Raichu (3): momo, Galron, Andante
Andante (2): hellbooks, Tejate Raichu
Toogeloo (2): Dwlee99, Cat Scratch Fever
Not_Mafia (2): Not_Mafia, Nero Cain
The Keeper (2): The Keeper, Save The Dragons
MagikHorse (1): Frogsterking
Galron (1): MagikHorse

Not Voting (5): Toogeloo, Radical Rat, Scorpious, Frozen Angel, Firebringer

so tejate wagon is because of he hesitant on putting me close to E-1 when i wasn't close. Meh. Not feeling it
Toog is because...he is fluffy? Do yall even play with toog early day 1s this is not abnormal
Not Mafia is a meme wagon
Keeper is decent because i think hiding behind gimmick/shit posters
Magikhorse has me going with so many questions
Galron i could take or leave. No strong opinion

So this game is going pretty well so far
When is Frozen angel gonna show up

Firebringer · Post Post #414 (isolation #68) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:43 pm

actually i enjoy galron posts too much to take or leave. Galron is now in the non yeet pool.
Mucho congrats

Firebringer · Post Post #415 (isolation #69) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:44 pm

In post 413, hellbooks wrote:
In post 410, Firebringer wrote:hellbrooks did u find anything interesting yet
about what? the game in general?

ur the one who was telling me u were gathering the EVIDENCE
did u betray ur oath of information gathering that im pretending u took

Firebringer · Post Post #417 (isolation #70) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:48 pm

ty for that info
i don't think ur vote is bad so u got that going for u.
now where is the movie reviews i was promised in signups

Firebringer · Post Post #421 (isolation #71) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:50 pm

can someone else pls request movie review. i am all out of requests

Firebringer · Post Post #423 (isolation #72) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:51 pm

do u count mod requests for u to posts when u get prodded as part of the global request system

Firebringer · Post Post #427 (isolation #73) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:01 pm

u take that back nero

Firebringer · Post Post #435 (isolation #74) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:18 pm

i found in mafia anytime someone is overusing gimmicks it just means they are scum.

Firebringer · Post Post #437 (isolation #75) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:19 pm

In post 428, MagikHorse wrote:
In post 411, Firebringer wrote:Magik what game r u talking about? i literally don't remember playing with u
viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76726 back in July 2018.

funny little read through.

Firebringer · Post Post #439 (isolation #76) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:20 pm

In post 436, Nero Cain wrote:I think Fire's vote there is a scum vote

keeper is literally hiding behind a gimmick

Firebringer · Post Post #441 (isolation #77) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:23 pm

most gimmick alts don't just gimmick they also post thoughts between gimmick. This is using gimmick account as a shield and you know it.
Ur not this stupid.

Firebringer · Post Post #443 (isolation #78) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:26 pm

Like I never said "anyone using a gimmick is scum always" im saying "anyone using a gimmick to hide their thoughts is scum because thats what scum do to protect themselves and use the gimmick as shield"
this isn't black and white. This comes from dozens and dozens of games experience.

Firebringer · Post Post #449 (isolation #79) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:29 pm

No ur doing great galron we can do bussing tomorow

Firebringer · Post Post #450 (isolation #80) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:29 pm

In post 447, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 435, Firebringer wrote:anytime someone is overusing gimmicks

What point r u making

Firebringer · Post Post #454 (isolation #81) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:34 pm

In post 451, Nero Cain wrote:So a hardclaimed gimmick alt is overusing thier gimmick after admitting that they'll be mostly gimmick playing. Yeah, not buying this thought procsess.

So u 100% think that keeper intended to play this game without giving any thoughts and just gimmick post instead of use gimmick as a way to deliver those thoughts in unique style.

Firebringer · Post Post #459 (isolation #82) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:41 pm

given that answer its more surprising ur not voting keeper

Firebringer · Post Post #465 (isolation #83) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:51 pm

Tejate ur not making any sense

Firebringer · Post Post #467 (isolation #84) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:54 pm

nero is not voting me?

Firebringer · Post Post #469 (isolation #85) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:55 pm

nero trying to diffuse the keeper wagon is really odd though

Firebringer · Post Post #478 (isolation #86) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:05 pm

In post 477, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Eh I guess Nero is town after all.

aren't u voting toog?
shit that must mean nero is scum

Firebringer · Post Post #481 (isolation #87) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:06 pm

The mafia gods told me it was so
Aslo he isn't in my scum pt

Firebringer · Post Post #483 (isolation #88) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:08 pm

In post 482, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 480, Tejate Raichu wrote:
In post 477, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Eh I guess Nero is town after all.
Could I ask what in particular you think looks town about these recent posts?
General aggro energy

Ummm what?
This isn't even Nero being aggro. This is one of those things im still looking at nero funny at

Firebringer · Post Post #490 (isolation #89) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:15 pm

TR, Keeper pronouns are They/Them Fae/Faer ; if you can't remember just use name everytime u have urge to put a pronoun in

Firebringer · Post Post #491 (isolation #90) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:16 pm

Given context it appears u were talking about Nero there. Slight confusion on my part

Firebringer · Post Post #557 (isolation #91) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:12 am

Keeper what r u reads on me and nero

Firebringer · Post Post #607 (isolation #92) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:00 pm

In post 555, Andante wrote:Yes, I agree with this. Not certain I'd declare keeper isn't going to endgame yet, but Fire is trying to take the easy path, avoid as little conflict/attention possible.. definitely not feeling towny

i had more to respond to but this post just doesn't connect with events or what u have even said about my other posts

Firebringer · Post Post #608 (isolation #93) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:02 pm

In post 563, The Keeper wrote:
In post 557, Firebringer wrote:Keeper what r u reads on me and nero
Nero seeks to Deal with Angels.
You I'm not so sure on. I suspect you're trying to get to the Angels through Sacrifice.

can someone translate

Firebringer · Post Post #609 (isolation #94) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:04 pm

In post 593, Toogeloo wrote:I've played multiple games from time to time, and I think it's unfair to judge someone based on differing activity between games. The other commitments might have the player more vested in the current game state, or require their time over other commitments. I myself can't multitask for shit, so sometimes I'll make sacrifices in time if a game doesn't require my immediate presence.

That being said, I think we can weigh in on frog's content here just fine without worry of their presence elsewhere. It's not like they have similar post content to someone like Frozen Angel. It is Day 1, early game still as a matter of fact, and it shouldn't really be concerning yet the amount of content any one player has produced yet.

so what is ur stance on frog posts?

Firebringer · Post Post #611 (isolation #95) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:06 pm

In post 533, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain

I think Firebringer is correct about slots hiding behind gimmicks, like. Maybe it's just because I haven't actually played Binding of Isaac, but this doesn't look like playing the game with a gimmick so much as playing the gimmick with a game, to the point that it is actively detrimental to communication.

Having said that, my vote goes to Nero because jumping in to chainsaw Keeper over a pretty tame and reasonable push is much scummier, and a flip there is likely to shed light on Keeper themself.

when radical rat is only one who understands and agrees with me.....its an interesting game

pedit yeah i thought they were saying Nero is town but i was confused on second line

Firebringer · Post Post #615 (isolation #96) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:10 pm

In post 593, Toogeloo wrote:think we can weigh in on frog's content here just fine without worry of their presence elsewhere.

i dont understand why u say this if u think its not memorable or worthy of attention if ur saying theres stuff that we can weigh in on

Firebringer · Post Post #618 (isolation #97) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:17 pm

i don't like how andante has phrased multiple of my posts.
reframing is really irking me.

Firebringer · Post Post #620 (isolation #98) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:23 pm

i am not royalty no matter, i know i look it but im not toog

Firebringer · Post Post #621 (isolation #99) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:26 pm

well im off for the night. gnight yall

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:31 pm

and here i was thinking radical rat was scum.
i guess im wrong again.

at least my gut on frog was right.

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:35 pm

In post 869, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 868, Firebringer wrote:and here i was thinking radical rat was scum.
i guess im wrong again.

at least my gut on frog was right.
So you were actively reading the thread and not posting?

in what world do u think i read and not post

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:36 pm

Also ur andante vote is shit nero.

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:39 pm

In post 855, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Frogsterking (10): hellbooks, Save The Dragons, Tejate Raichu, Cat Scratch Fever, Dwlee99, Radical Rat, MagikHorse, Toogeloo, Scorpious, Not_Mafia

So i was thinking during night that this wagon happening must have been bussed by two scum.
the fact 3 people on this wagon flipped town means NM, Toogeloo, MagikHorse, STD, TR, and Hellbrooks

I am surprised magik is alive if i was scum he would have been my prime target. But im honestly not sure who scum killed with the death list...probably dwlee. Did dwlee hint at vig?

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:40 pm

In post 874, Nero Cain wrote:but my point is that you didn't talk about Rat being scum or Frog being scum and you come into today talking about how your gut was right about Frog but you weren't even here while he was getting ran up.

I have no intention in arguing with u cause ur just gonna misrepresent everything i say. Just like you did yesterday.
Just keep calling me scum.

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:45 pm

In post 877, Tejate Raichu wrote:I think it's likely that Dwelee is probably responsible for one. I'm not really sure which, they were gunning for Galron near day's end. I think they might have voted for CSF at some point earlier in the game.

Probably dkkoba given those two latest games

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:47 pm

and we would have gotten away with it if it werent for that meddling nero

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:50 pm

scorpious or not mafia are good choices

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:57 pm

In post 855, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Frogsterking (10): hellbooks, Save The Dragons, Tejate Raichu,
Cat Scratch Fever, Dwlee99, Radical Rat,
MagikHorse, Toogeloo, Scorpious, Not_Mafia

I would take out Magikhorse also form this wagon being scum. Frogster interactions with him tells me no way they are aligned.

pedit i have no read on scorpious i just think frogster wagon has at least 1-2 scum on it and if its anyone those two would be my prime fos

STD im feeling ehh about but i think ill get a solid feel for hopefully today.
Hellbooks is okay
I am not worried about you

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm

In post 885, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 883, Firebringer wrote:scorpious or not mafia are good choices
if you believe that then why are you hesitant to vote? What happened to Keeper?

i rethought my read on keeper and decided it wasn't that good.

Firebringer · Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:02 pm

In post 886, The Keeper wrote:Rather curious about the kills mind... implies a clear multiball to me.

the game says singleball in signups
this was also talked about day 1.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:35 pm

alright work day done. i got thirty minutes
what is up

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:36 pm

In post 940, Not_Mafia wrote:Why is that scummy?

hey not mafia i love u but are u gonna tell us anything uve done is townie here

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:38 pm

In post 943, Nero Cain wrote:then vote him? I swear to god you and fire being super cautious with your vote is a scum tell.

im always scum.

also im in no rush to vote anyone here

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:41 pm

In post 970, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 910, Nero Cain wrote:like this is oddly specific, no? Why is it 2 and not 1?
Why is it not all 3?
Well other than the fact that Fire's not on the wagon and he can't say he's bussing.
Speaking of oddly specific.

nero not wrong that there is probably at least 4 scum in this game. That is also another reason why 2 scum have to be on that wagon imo.

Like could be just one but highly doubt it.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:42 pm

In post 986, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 984, Andante wrote:Dragons is definitely looking pretty sus today
how is someone looking bad when they haven't been on?

didn't u just accuse me of lurking and not posting like 5 minutes ago

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:43 pm

In post 1001, Nero Cain wrote:the only time I was worried about you being mafia is when I was pushing Fire d1 and TR was defending Fire and you kinda got in the way and it made me worried that you were trying to distract and divert attention but not everyone can be scum and AD + fire + TR just makes the most sense to me.

Okay I need receipts. Where was TR defending me

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:45 pm

In post 1045, Andante wrote:tejate is town!!!

VOTE: momo you don't get to do nothing game related and vote me... nahhh

I support this vote in spirit.
Gotta be more scummy and not actually vote just for Nero

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:47 pm

In post 1020, Toogeloo wrote:VOTE: Tejate

Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.

Hey toog the two people u support to vote are my hard non yeet pool right now.
Want to give this idiot a breakdown of what I missed.
Magik/Frog didn't look scum at all.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:49 pm

In post 1055, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1048, Firebringer wrote:
In post 940, Not_Mafia wrote:Why is that scummy?
hey not mafia i love u but are u gonna tell us anything uve done is townie here
No but is it scummy?

frankly nothing uve done is anything. But if i was a betting man i would say scum u and scorpius planned to end day early and used the fact ur a meme hammer to get away with it

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:07 pm

i don't want to policy not mafia
i don't really do policy on people

i think given the circumstances not mafia has good chance of being a scum who was bussing.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:20 pm

hey VOTE: Save the Dragons
where is the theme song
and where u at

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:30 am

The most open of secrets

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:47 pm

In post 1103, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1101, Nero Cain wrote:Who do you think is scum Gal?

TR and ????

VOTE: Firebringer
I’m good with this

VOTE: FireBringer

r u scumreading me because i called u scum

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:48 pm

In post 1086, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1061, Firebringer wrote:hey VOTE: Save the Dragons
where is the theme song
and where u at
im around

give me a moment to catch up

i gave u 2 moments. where is that glorious catch up

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:49 pm

In post 1066, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1050, Firebringer wrote:nero not wrong that there is probably at least 4 scum in this game. That is also another reason why 2 scum have to be on that wagon imo.
Fire still TMIing

me agreeing with u is TMIng

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:52 pm

In post 1073, Tejate Raichu wrote:@Firebringer, MagikHorse, Scorpious, Save the Dragons Is there anything stopping you from voting Nero right now?

i think neros tunneling is town.

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:02 pm

so if my theory is wrong then what will be the next argument will i hear

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:07 pm

then what are we even talking about

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:08 pm

nevermind. I don't want to engage in this line.

Yes, I am scum and i know for a fact that there is 2 scum on that wagon. Help me buss them

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:11 pm

Scorpius or Not mafia.
STD might be good, but i want to hear more from him.

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:22 pm

In post 1122, Not_Mafia wrote:Fire y u scumread me bro?

the rng gods told me so
also the way end of day went yesterday tells me scum wanted to end day fast. And while u would hammer regardless i think organized so it was ended faster

but don't worry about it, im making some fresh beef tonight.

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:26 pm

who r u interested in hellbooks

Firebringer · Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:52 pm

so ur voting me because i claimed scum?

Firebringer · Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:04 pm

In post 1200, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1197, Nero Cain wrote:i mean there's only 4 ppl I'd vote today (STD, Fire, Tej, Ad) but no one can agree though looks like STD wagon might happen so...
I'm with the Fire an AD side, I think Tej is a faction of some sort not mafia,and STD, just no, not scum shouldnt happen

this game is singleball brahhh

Firebringer · Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:06 pm

In post 1193, Save The Dragons wrote:it's not me, it's VOTE: hellbooks

something yesterday killed my desire to play mafia, will try to have something soon.

what killed ur desire to play and why hellbooks

Firebringer · Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:11 pm

In post 1171, momo wrote:I don't know if I'd call it a full blown read, but I def townlean Nero. I don't really have any recollection of his scum meta, but he seems just a tad bit too involved to be scum. And not just in an activity was/directing the convo way (that can be scummy).

It's his willingness to bring up (without being prompted) other people's reads of himself that makes hime feel towny in my eyes.

okay not that i disagree with the conclusion of townread on nero. But him being as "involved" really isn't like something to get a read of him for.

In post 1174, MagikHorse wrote:Feeling like the big people to watch out for right now are Andante, Galron, and Keeper. The first two feel like scum in particular, Keeper's just acting strangely combined with generally low input and even less solving.

Fire seems agitated too, though I'm starting to share this uncertainty regarding why he feels like there's 2 scum on the Frog wagon. Why 2 instead of 1 or 0? All 3 I severely doubt, if I believed in that I'd be placing my money on STD/Toog/N_M here, but I would like him to elaborate on why and who are these 2 (at risk of being called out for repeating Nero who I believe asked something similar on top of claiming it as TMI).

because 1 seems unlikely with the people off the wagon. 0 seems even more unlikely next to impossible based on who was off wagon. And so i think 2 or even 3 was most likely. I never said any of these was impossible or unlikely all i said was i think its 2.

Firebringer · Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:14 pm

In post 1166, Nero Cain wrote:I mean I do think that it's theoretically possible that frog-magic decide to hard distance from each other

yeah but likely hood is very low to not be worth talking about

Firebringer · Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:20 pm

In post 1182, MagikHorse wrote:If there's anything else that Fire's scumreading Scorp for, please point it out. I've either missed it or he hasn't said it yet.

besides his general bad posts? his read on me is like copy and paste of nero. Which was terrible reason to begin with.
Nero being bad makes sense
Scorp just looking to piggyback.

Firebringer · Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:47 am

In post 1252, Save The Dragons wrote:i think hellbook's iso is a lot of nothing posts made to look busy.

575 is an example it doesn't say much of anything but looks busy. she says gamestate comments are scummy, okay, she says she was considering hopping off of frogstar, okay so that's testing the waters of jumping off the wagon.

I don't know. I'm having trouble finding content from her D1 posts.

i think she could be an early busser of frogs who didn't know the wagon would blow up and just decided to sacrifice her buddy when it did because slinking off would look suspicious.

I’ll sheep it

VOTE: hellbrooks

Also since I didn’t say it last week I am limited access on weekends right now. I have family in town for the month and it’s only time I get to actually spend time with them. This game gets put on shelf

Firebringer · Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:49 am

In post 1242, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1236, Firebringer wrote:Nero being bad makes sense
but at least I'm doing something and I sorta kinda helped vote out scum day 1 while you lurked his wagon out.

Why are voting STD while pushing that Scorp and NM are the bussers of Frog?

Me being not good and comparing urself to me isn’t a win for u my friend

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:24 pm

so 2 things
apparently mafia didn't believe my hint that i was a vigi or thought me shooting not mafia was a boon for them.

and i think not mafia is probably town because of that.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:24 pm

In post 1394, Scorpious wrote:Imagine that, disappears conveniently and is still alive..

VOTE: FireBringer

umm i announced i was on v/la

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:26 pm

my first instinct is to say its tejarate, because everyone who basically suspects him is getting deader than dead
magikhorse because why wouldn't scum kill this dude? He was the most townie out of everyone for days. Has to be deep wolf

And hellbrooks?

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:29 pm

hellbrooks/keeper for last slot of scum.
I lean on hellbrooks a bit here.

Scorpious is an idiot.
Not Mafia is bait lims
Toogeloo is always town and im gonna unironically continue trusting that fact.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:32 pm

i don't remember keeper being pressured yesterday. Where u seeing that?

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:36 pm

In post 1383, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Andante (6): momo, MagikHorse, Toogeloo, hellbooks, Nero Cain, Save The Dragons

momo, nero, and STD town here.
I mean i don't want to keep doing wagon assumptions given i have yet nothing to show for them but Magik, Toog, Books.....
They wouldn't all be scum trying to push andante through right?

I mean none of them were that serious threatened except me and STD push on hellbooks so unless worried about traction there. I can't see them all being scum.

Kind of reinforces Magik and Hell though in my mind. Hell goes for the easy lim bait here.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:37 pm

In post 1402, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1399, Firebringer wrote:hellbrooks/keeper for last slot of scum.
I lean on hellbrooks a bit here.

Scorpious is an idiot
.
Not Mafia is bait lims
Toogeloo is always town and im gonna unironically continue trusting that fact.

Sir idiot to you.

How about Mr instead

In post 1403, MagikHorse wrote:Rereading is critical at this stage, though the fact that I'm alive continues to be an oddity (as I've noticed Fire picking up on). At least Galron is gone, they would've been too easy for me to tunnel on today. Thanks to whomever shot them, unless it was scum upon which case I've got
nothing
on this game at all.

Will do some reading now, but I 100% will not be posting or checking in tomorrow. Tomorrow's my birthday, and I plan to spend it celebrating.

enjoy ur bday.

Why do u think ur alive btw?

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:54 pm

by people u disagreed with u mean people who scumread u? Yeah that is a big part of why i put in the scum pool.
considering all ur scumreads are dead excluding keeper? and they all flipped town who do u scumread now

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:56 pm

@magik i agree nero the scum kill
i bet nero shot STD
and STD likely shot Galron? Not sure why he didn't go hellbrooks.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:57 pm

last vig should claim who they shot btw before we even considering voting.

We do popcorn claiming here

I am VT
Tejate u go

Firebringer · Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:57 pm

last vig should claim who they shot btw before we even considering voting.

We do popcorn claiming here

I am VT
Tejate u go

Firebringer · Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:58 pm

toog, if Not mafia was scum I would be dead.

Also why don't u think Magik is scum here?

Firebringer · Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:59 pm

In post 1427, Tejate Raichu wrote:It's a singleball. Also, something to consider: even if we lim correctly today, there's a chance we may not be much better off for it. It seems pretty clear to me that the neighborhood was solely vigilantes, however given the nature of neighborhoods it's not impossible that a goon or even a mafia sided vigilante was among them. I can't imagine the scum PR isn't powerful given the nature of the theme and what we know of the roles so far.

singleball doesn't exclude serial killer.

imagine a sk in this setup with no bp though.
i can see pooky being that mean to an sk

Firebringer · Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:23 pm

glad u had a happy birthday.
I am not making comments on role claims till everyone claims and btw its ur turn magik

Firebringer · Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:24 pm

by ur turn i mean u need to popcorn to next

Firebringer · Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:25 pm

In post 1444, MagikHorse wrote:I am another Vanilla Town, nothing unusual or out of the ordinary. Will pass the popcorn over to Scorpius.

reading is tech

Firebringer · Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:09 am

In post 1451, MagikHorse wrote:So, to recap:

Toogeloo: VT
Hellbooks: Doctor
Not_Mafia: VT
Scorpius: BP Cop
Keeper: VT
Fire: VT
Myself: VT
Tejate: VT

Scorpius' claim doesn't make sense without a Mafia having some sort of roleblocker, even if someone dies the same night they're checked they should present a result. It's either unclaimed, or the role itself is fake. Will ponder more once I drive to work.

dont believe either hellbooks or scorpius claims.

Also what cop gets "wins with town" and why would someone roleblock scorpius.
Why would hellbrooks heal andante and then vote her

Firebringer · Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:46 am

why would u get roleblocked night 1?

Firebringer · Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:33 am

so far everyone in neighborhood was town. I heavily doubt pooky threw in 4 town neighbors no scum.
got to be a scum in there that didn't announce and it doesn't look like any of vigs crumbed the hood.

So im thinking someone is neighbor not saying. Probably one of hellbrooks/scorpious too
Or could be scum in VT claims.

Maybe i should look for who was focused on neighborhood yesterday. Might tell me something....

U know what screw it. Not gonna solve this with role claim shenanigans.

I want hellbrooks to explain her read progression shift from day 1 to day 2.

Tejerate you have been fence sitting alot of ur reads and i want those explained in as much detail and if anyone of them are even "I can't pick one side or another" i want to know why ur not attempting to correct that now.

Magik ur focusing too much on claims. How has ur reads reasoning changed with andante flip and new day.

Firebringer · Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:37 am

I miss nero. This game would be more lively if he were here.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:30 am

In post 1477, hellbooks wrote:actually one more thing i remembere which is that fb, if you think its tej/magik that means that frog double bussed D1 which i will say is NOT like impossible (like it could have just been a kamikaze opening gambit from the scum team to bank up a ton of town cred) but i think it feels too convoluted for me to easily accept it as the truth

how is it a kamikaze openning gambit to push two of ur teammates in the way Frog was pushing tej/magik
i don't see how that is convoluted at all, when weaker scum players are in game they tend try to force situations of distance with partners that they don't need to which if its magik/tej and both of them are super active. Frog needs to interact with them in some way or else he looks weird. So why not force a distance by pushing em?

I don't see how that is suicide. Its more suicidal if both of magik/tej is town and frog was just going for most present players.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:34 am

this speculation of me being in neighborhood is silly. don't u think nero would shoot me if i was in a vigi hood night 1 if i was in a hood? and that i would out the hood?
Nero was scumreading me all game, if i was in a hood with him and the neighborhood all panicked on each other last night, i would be the one he shot instead i think he shot STD over paranoia.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:38 am

In post 1480, Not_Mafia wrote:I can definitely see Pooky putting an all town neighbourhood in a game, especially when they're all vigs, Neighbour is a shit role where everyone gets eliminated eventually because "there has to be a scum in there", inciting that paranoia and wifom in a hood of all town vigs is definitely something I would do and I can see Pooky doing it to

this theory makes sense but also raises more questions and im not inclined to process it atm
also makes me paranoid ur neighbor but then i don't get why u would be alive at this point if u were.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:28 pm

In post 1493, hellbooks wrote:
In post 1488, Firebringer wrote:this speculation of me being in neighborhood is silly. don't u think nero would shoot me if i was in a vigi hood night 1 if i was in a hood? and that i would out the hood?
Nero was scumreading me all game, if i was in a hood with him and the neighborhood all panicked on each other last night, i would be the one he shot instead i think he shot STD over paranoia.
wait a second -- why did you think that there was another vig though? are you making some deduction there?

i miscounted number of shots and dead vigis in beginning of day.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:33 pm

In post 1494, hellbooks wrote:
In post 1487, Firebringer wrote:how is it a kamikaze openning gambit to push two of ur teammates in the way Frog was pushing tej/magik
i don't see how that is convoluted at all, when weaker scum players are in game they tend try to force situations of distance with partners that they don't need to which if its magik/tej and both of them are super active. Frog needs to interact with them in some way or else he looks weird. So why not force a distance by pushing em?
im not up to date with "bussing meta" but i just have a hard time believing that frog would go about it in the way that he did. like he would just have randomly decided to name two of his partners and hyperfocus on them and ignore EVERYONE else. all the while lurking and drawing suspicion to himself
im not saying its impossible like esp with tej, i could see frog/tej because tej was a secondary partner. i could even hypothetically see frog/magik but i think magik is town outside of that interaction. but both just seems like weridly blatant and improbable

I don't see it as this was Frog trying to focus on his partners. I think this was 'im focusing on most active players and they are scum so i should't get much scrutiny' approach a newbie scum might take. And my idea is that Frog is playing on that newbie mindset of feeling it is safer to make inadequate pushes on teammates than actually make up reasons to scumread town. I don't think this is far fetched, it might not be "optimal" but i don't see why u think scum would always play to most optimal play. Like r u telling me he planned to draw suspicion on himself by hyperfocusing on the most active town players because that seems more suicidal than the alternate of safely distancing from said partners. Even if its just one of them being his partner its still safer.

This is like not a good rebuttal to what happened

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:34 pm

In post 1485, Toogeloo wrote:Game seems dead. Many of those of the town faction must be feeling defeated already.

pls no apathy post.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:41 pm

In post 1490, MagikHorse wrote:Like, it's incredibly frustrating trying to figure out if you're just freakishly paranoid about me under Mislim and Lose type pressure or if you're intentionally trying to keep me as an open option despite all prior claims you've made.

I don't see it as paranoia. Theres a few things i know right now.
1) I am still alive in this game
2) Ur still alive in this game
3) I townread u all game.

So that leaves me thinking theres a very good reason we are both alive. Either scum think I can be misyeeted or the more likely option is that I been pocketed by deepwolf who thinks they are safe from me voting them.
And you fit that category the best right now.

I am very much leaning into my reads have been pretty bad this game and so i am not under assumption ive been left to just be misyeeted. I think under normal scrutiny your posts seem like town and ur pushing game forward but under closer inspection I don't see you actually getting to heart of mindset of players. Its more speculation of actions/possibilities and even stuff Ive considered on surface level. In fact while I don't remember any specific points I know uve been echoing some of the things I have said a lot of this game.

So no, I don't think this is just 'paranoia' ur literally at the top of my list right now because if anyone is a deepwolf. Its definitely you.
Tejerate could be town, I think he has pointed out better flaws in my thought process of how everyone been scumreading him including the people almost certainly vigged/misyeets. I still think its very likely he could be scum but if one of you two is scum, I am putting money on you.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:45 pm

Also i massively disagree with the idea of taking the PR claims of the table for lims today. Besides the claims I don't think either slot has been exceptionally townie to do that.
Not Mafia is hands down a no go for me too btw.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:46 pm

By no go I am saying I am not voting not mafia ever today.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:48 pm

In post 1512, MagikHorse wrote:Did you see the sheer number of my posts he pulled up? Is that what "not a lot of scrutiny" looks like? Are we playing the same game here? Frog isn't a "newbie scum" either, his join date is old and it appears to me like he has many games under his belt.

did u misread my post

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:52 pm

i went and looked at frogster account. He has played like less than 12 games in the 8-9 years his account been active on this site. 3 games in the last year.
I don't know what qualifies as "newbie" anymore. So if u want to quivel over that Idc. To me it seemed like inexperienced scum.

Firebringer · Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:56 pm

ive already stated why im not voting not mafia. Toogeloo is going for the safe and easy route which is both annoying and sadly could easily be town who doesn't care about this game.

And I don't think ive been the most towniest person in this game to be a target for pocket. But I think ive been active enough voice that having me on a players side is beneficial to the point that I extremely defend players i townread. R u saying thats not useful to scum!u? or u saying that u don't pocket players when u play?
U make it sound like im considering myself a special snowflake and i never have made myself that way. I am a loud voice in a game and sometimes its a boon and other times its double edged blade. I certainly don't think its a 'good' plan for scum to try to pocket me but thats for entirely diff reasons.

Theres actually a whole lot of stuff to unpack in ur posts and im going to be talking indefinitely.
And the more u say u don't want a 1v1 the more I want one cause I think ur throwing a lot of dirt out while not calling me scum because u don't want to commit to pushing me.

the "not liking methods of hunting" never said that. I don't think this is u actual scumhunting now that ive thought about it more.
And yes ive made alot of assumptions. I have made assumptions almost this entire game. You have done so to. What is this point ur making and how is it relevent to my points? I am wrong on alot of these assumptions so therefore this one is also wrong?

Firebringer · Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:43 pm

have to do a preodge here folks. Busy with work/tomorrow early meetings.

Firebringer · Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:44 pm

i think keeper votes are only slightly better than a not mafia vote tbh

Firebringer · Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:46 pm

In post 1520, MagikHorse wrote:Regarding the assumptions you seem to assume that my problem is that you're making assumptions at all, which is sorely misreading it. The issue is the fact that most of these assumptions today are not agreeable whatsoever which hasn't been the case on previous days, and yet you're pushing them like they're hard facts despite nobody else being at your back. As I said earlier town must meet and agree with town on a day like today, and if nobody agrees with your points then sticking on them isn't particularly good without greater evidence, and I almost fear you wouldn't hammer when the time runs out if you didn't agree on the wagon. There is potential that doing so might not immediately result in a loss given the even number of players, but it is a concern nonetheless that also applies to Toogaloo as previously mentioned. You're beating the same drums repeatedly and not giving much if anything new for them. As previously said I don't think this is ultimately helpful for the town at this stage unless it actually gets some backing to it, but none seems forthcoming.

i actually don't see u giving anything to convince me of something else entirely everything u been saying as of late is how i am just wrong.
if u want to convince me of something else. I will try to keep an open mind

Firebringer · Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:47 pm

In post 1524, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1523, MagikHorse wrote:Why do you think there's absolutely a scum between us?
Well, I’ve read fire as scum this whole game. And someone, Maybe Toog? Was talking about town side being kinda meh with the state of the game. They were accused of ATe, I disagree..

I feel that.

I’m as good as dead tonight or blocked anyway so my motivation has been sapped. I have no idea what happened with the neighbors . I’m almost more interested about getting this over with and seeing what the hell happened.

But the short answer, is that you guys are still really into this while as much as I want to I can’t find the oomph.
The math isn’t there for us to mislim either.. so I think at least one of you is scum,, GTH I’d say just fire before both of you. But that is exactly why I’m hoping we get some 1v1 from you. I don’t see me going NM tonight. And obviously I’m not going with hell.. again math. Poe puts a high probability as one of you being scum, probabilities of you both are up their too..

so confused on why u think ur gonna be dead. And why u aren't more aggressively pushing ur solve if u think that

Firebringer · Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:49 pm

VOTE: Tejate Raichu

Firebringer · Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:05 pm

this is a shit wagon btw.
VOTE: Keeper

Firebringer · Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:40 pm

Pooky why u lying. I was town.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:46 pm

Its good to read dead thread and them also finding the BP Cop role claim as ridiculous as I found it.

Firebringer · Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:52 pm

In post 1694, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Hellbooks played an absolutely masterful game.

aagreed. without even knowing the actions i thought hellbrooks was most townie scum. To dodge all neighborhood vigis is insane.

Firebringer · Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:38 am

i really felt like my scum game here was exceptionally weak. To the point i thought i should have been massively scumread by day 2. Day 1 ehhhh i think i did okay.

notes for town players:
toogeloo---u really didn't need to get apathetic.
Not _ Mafia - never change
Magik - I was really unsure how to handle u and just my little push i was trying to be as cordial about it as possible and i feel u tried to escalate it at every instance. I thought town me would have further pushed into toxic territory but i explicitly decided to ignore continuing engaging cause i didn't want to engage to create a toxic 1v1. I wanted a friendly 1v1. I thought it would be really nasty. Overall i think u should be more solvey in the game, u provide alot of analysis but u don't really push it in productive areas i thought.
It seemed more like u just were someone taking notes on the game and commenting as a witness to it rather than player and that was kind of one of my arguments against u that i would have fleshed out as an attacking point.

Tejate - i see a different but similar situation with magik for u. U didn't really push anyone until u were being pushed. Nothing proactive, and u didn't provide like a lot of analysis. You played as a very reactive player.

Andante - i still don't get why u were getting scumreads. maybe u just need to explain ur switches of reads to show them more. Ca
use i think ur getting scumread because u jump around without a clear shift but I can see the jumps or at least understand theres jump.

nero cain - i enjoyed our little spats. It helped me stay active in the game when i got bored of this game. i genuinely missed uo n the final day.