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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:05 am

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first!
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:06 am

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i think my setup spec was right, lol. the subtitle of this game appears to be ironic. i suspect n1 will be madness.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:07 am

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Post Post #14 (isolation #3) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:19 am

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i have no vibe reads, but i think dkkoba's body language thus far is towny
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Post Post #18 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:26 am

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everyone targets enchant right?
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Post Post #19 (isolation #5) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:27 am

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i'm laughing. this setup is already a piece of art and i am not confident there isn't a twist.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:07 pm

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mistyx's response is so odd i can't work out if it's scummy or not
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Post Post #44 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:50 pm

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VOTE: RCEnigma
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Post Post #46 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:52 pm

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what huh I voted him because I figured you would
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Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:56 pm

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i've been town since the day i was born.

also hi rce, been a minute :D
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Post Post #49 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:57 pm

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why not vote flea btw? I think that could get some traction
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Post Post #228 (isolation #11) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:27 am

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this will be a long game
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Post Post #230 (isolation #12) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:30 am

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In post 74, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Kennyk
no rce noo
In post 74, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Kennyk
In post 79, RCEnigma wrote:67 is super weird but ok UNVOTE:
no stop unvote is town too!!!

once again why are you not voting flea? is there nobody you think is worth pushing except Kenny? youre lookin for 2 remember
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Post Post #232 (isolation #13) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:32 am

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In post 74, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Kennyk
In post 79, RCEnigma wrote:67 is super weird but ok UNVOTE:
Stopped reading pg. 5 koba/d+a is really boring
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Post Post #233 (isolation #14) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:34 am

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In post 74, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Kennyk
In post 79, RCEnigma wrote:67 is super weird but ok UNVOTE:
In post 231, DkKoba wrote:?? Wtf are u on about worst
Is a mafia game, not a "dkkoba reacts" thread, if you can't work it out either try to work it out or say somethin useful :P
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Post Post #235 (isolation #15) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:37 am

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I forgiv u

If you and d+a are both town I think flea is scum!!
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Post Post #237 (isolation #16) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:01 am

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contrarily, i'm confused by why rce didn't come at you !
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Post Post #239 (isolation #17) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:14 am

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is this what en passant feels like???

but no seriously this isn't chessmastery. i'll happily come for u when the time is right. i'm very overtly confused that rce picked you of everyone to comment on the strangeness of then has followed it up by unvoting rather than circling back to you.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:06 pm

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cool. what prompted you to say flea's post stood out then? what do you think of the way L&L spoted the same thing?

dont try and outguess me I'm magic
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Post Post #245 (isolation #19) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:04 pm

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Dk and L&L are both pushing each other for really stupid reasons I think, im kinda trying to work out what's happening in the fringes.

I don't care much for guessing meta levels either. Im interested in what you saw and what youre seeing. Agree Flea is lhf at this point.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:40 am

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there's absolutely nothing suggesting there cant be more than one n1 vig in this setup. why would you expect mistyx to go at koba?
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Post Post #255 (isolation #21) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:36 am

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I think I'm looking for critical thinking, not mech spec :(
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Post Post #257 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:38 am

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I'm like dead null on datisi save for dreading the fact I probably need to go and trudge through your convo w him at some point
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Post Post #258 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:39 am

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probably would vote there tbh?
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Post Post #259 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:42 am

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I get what you're tryin koba but i think there's a significant disconnect between where my mind is at and where you this my mind is at
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Post Post #273 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:42 am

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VOTE: bugspray
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Post Post #277 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:44 am

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if i come back to another page of bad koba/l+l scum theatre instead of solving, I'll cry
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Post Post #278 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:45 am

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that post was ill timed, sorry, pedit didnt alert me to 276.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:50 am

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dats can I borrow your brain for a min? aristeia is welcome to lend hers too
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Post Post #288 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 284, Logic and Literature wrote:@tw, can't promise it's in good condition but sure

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I'm strugglin with resds a bit. I think rce is town and against my better judgement I think Mistyx might be town as well. Bugspray/Flea are in this weird spot where im acutely aware I could misyeet sither of them in like 90% of plists but I also just dont townread either of them at all.

Do you have anything different?
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Post Post #291 (isolation #30) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:57 am

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I also think applying the rule of 3 to a MBoS game is somewhat silly but if we have a third n1 vig, one of the three is probably a mafia vigilante or at least informed scum (last I knew schadd really liked doing neat things with informdd roles)
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Post Post #292 (isolation #31) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:58 am

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In post 290, Logic and Literature wrote:if we're T/T with koba then scum basically don't have to do anything to blend in because nobody is interested in a long back and forth between us.

which is basically most of the playerlist atp so fun
please accept this pocket attempt, in that case!
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Post Post #296 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:00 am

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noted, tomorrow is fine. I could go for Kenny tbh.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #33) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:02 am

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is this what sealioning feels like....
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Post Post #299 (isolation #34) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:03 am

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Koba, I'm not picking up what you're puttin down re. Mistyx either
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Post Post #302 (isolation #35) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:06 am

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In post 0, schadd_ wrote:
welcome to micro 1049, which is mystery box of silver 14, subtitled
taking it bit by bit
. we will be trying to just get it done slowly and comfortably and consistently.

in this case i will acknowledge Isis as a reviewer for the setup, and provide a shoutout to body language.



Spoiler: players list
  1. DkKoba
  2. Kennyk
  3. Logic and Literature (Datisi + Aristeia)
  4. Flea the Magician
  5. RCEnigma
  6. bugspray
  7. Enchant
  8. Mistyx
  9. the worst

Spoiler: alive players
  • DkKoba
  • Kennyk
  • Logic and Literature
  • Flea the Magician
  • RCEnigma
  • bugspray
  • Enchant
  • Mistyx
  • the worst

Spoiler: reveals
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雎晓雯 photographed by leslie zhang.
Stop being sceptical. My pockets ate deep and comfortable.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #36) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:08 am

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In post 300, DkKoba wrote:
In post 296, the worst wrote:noted, tomorrow is fine. I could go for Kenny tbh.
kenny is town.

their thought processes, while wildly (objectively) bad in terms of mafia theory -> line up with a thought process a townie would bring to the table regarding seeing what has unfolded here.

What makes you think they are informed?

Like seriously - people who say things you disagree with are not scum lol.


Can you outline why you think they are scum?
dont see much ai there and I dont feel much of a diff between town bringing that to the table to help and scum bringing it to the table to look helpful. I think I'd regard Kenny's posting as more motivated by looking good than Mistyx's tbh
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Post Post #311 (isolation #37) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:34 am

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:] o k
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Post Post #315 (isolation #38) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:38 pm

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No problems Flea, catch you when you can.
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Post Post #316 (isolation #39) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:40 pm

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I'd do Koba but I'm not really sure if I feel it. Their pushes are pretty clearly driven by what they want to do rather than actual reads. But I think its kind of a personality thing? But I'd also policy it?
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Post Post #322 (isolation #40) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:58 pm

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In post 311, the worst wrote::] o k
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Post Post #325 (isolation #41) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:05 pm

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:lol:

I think you just admitted that your mistyx read was ntentionally inflated, so I was right on that one! I still literally dont understand what your issue with L+L is. Your read on me has gone from pg 1 locktown to meta lockscum because you think I'm polarised after reading 2 games.

you can ride your ego high as hard as you like but you're still about as deep as a puddle :P
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Post Post #327 (isolation #42) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:11 pm

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more perspectives would be rad, thanks
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Post Post #329 (isolation #43) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:14 pm

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least i don't walk around pretending to be an ocean.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #44) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:19 pm

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i'm just gonna, like, keep playing the game at my own pace. you flitting between sealioning datisi/ari and doing your best impression of a 15 y/o bully at me doesn't make me wanna play the way you want me to play. :p
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Post Post #334 (isolation #45) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:23 pm

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alright. I didn't set out to be toxic, and I am sorry if I've sunk lower than I intended to.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #46) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:45 pm

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i am also confused fwiw. i didn't think flea was really scumreading me either.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #47) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:50 pm

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In post 353, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 291, the worst wrote:I also think applying the rule of 3 to a MBoS game is somewhat silly but if we have a third n1 vig, one of the three is probably a mafia vigilante or at least informed scum (last I knew schadd really liked doing neat things with informdd roles)
Can you flesh this out a bit?
rule of 3 is like, design theory, that if 3 of ~a thing~ is present in a game, one of the things is scum.
i don't really think it's necessarily true and i think schadd knows enough to design around it! but i'm also just putting it out there that instantly treating vig claims as town may not be prudent.

if there are 2 n1 vigs, i wouldn't be surprised if scum are informed of that. schadd_ does informed roles more creatively than like, honestly any setup designer i can think of? and i think scum being informed of there being multiple n1 vigs opens potential for dayplay e.g. claiming a n1 vig who will be holstering as a matter of policy.

i'm aware i'm explicitly referencing koba's play here and i literally don't care about their broader meta opinion of vigs. just putting it out there.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #48) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:58 pm

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I still don't feel like Flea has explained any of faer thought processes yet
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Post Post #371 (isolation #49) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:00 pm

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In post 366, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 358, the worst wrote:
In post 353, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 291, the worst wrote:I also think applying the rule of 3 to a MBoS game is somewhat silly but if we have a third n1 vig, one of the three is probably a mafia vigilante or at least informed scum (last I knew schadd really liked doing neat things with informdd roles)
Can you flesh this out a bit?
rule of 3 is like, design theory, that if 3 of ~a thing~ is present in a game, one of the things is scum.
i don't really think it's necessarily true and i think schadd knows enough to design around it! but i'm also just putting it out there that instantly treating vig claims as town may not be prudent.

if there are 2 n1 vigs, i wouldn't be surprised if scum are informed of that. schadd_ does informed roles more creatively than like, honestly any setup designer i can think of? and i think scum being informed of there being multiple n1 vigs opens potential for dayplay e.g. claiming a n1 vig who will be holstering as a matter of policy.

i'm aware i'm explicitly referencing koba's play here and i literally don't care about their broader meta opinion of vigs. just putting it out there.
Yeah no I get what you were saying but I don't understand what you're meaning.

What does claiming vig gain that not claiming it doesn't if scum are already informed? Why can't there be 3 n1 vigs and scum still be informed? Why can't scum have n1 bp?

Basically I don't see the speculation as anything other than subtle discrediting koba so I want to see what you are actually getting at if that isn't the case.
you'll also notice i'm not voting a claimed vig. i feel like you might be attributing a greater weight to 291 that isn't there. just proceed warily.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #50) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:04 pm

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ohhh this is a flooding strat
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Post Post #380 (isolation #51) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:05 pm

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@rce, flea, bugspray, enchant (whoever is town in this category) - please be wary that you're low content, haven't done a lot, and you are hard to townread but currently very easy to pocket.
dkkoba isn't able to explain their reads on any of you with any degree of depth, but their confidence level is increasing rapidly. this isn't sincere.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #52) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:06 pm

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rce you're probably closer to the outlier there because i think your unabashedness and scepticism are more likely to come from you as town. i think you're still loosely within that group.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #53) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:12 pm

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In post 385, DkKoba wrote:
In post 380, the worst wrote:@rce, flea, bugspray, enchant (whoever is town in this category) - please be wary that you're low content, haven't done a lot, and you are hard to townread but currently very easy to pocket.
dkkoba isn't able to explain their reads on any of you with any degree of depth, but their confidence level is increasing rapidly. this isn't sincere.
worst.

i will give you some advice.

i have experience with these players.

they have experience with me


your words will literally mean nothing because they all know that this is expected from me as town.


the only person denying it is ari and datisi, and even datisi isnt fully denying it.

It just really is curious how Ari knows what youre saying is false.. and isn't refuting it though :lol:
noted. though i don't think it's harmful for me to ask people to check how townreadable they are vs. how pocketable they are!
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Post Post #394 (isolation #54) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:13 pm

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In post 391, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 382, the worst wrote:rce you're probably closer to the outlier there because i think your unabashedness and scepticism are more likely to come from you as town. i think you're still loosely within that group.
My read on koba isn't influenced by kobas read on me.

The prolonged fight with LaL is annoying to parse it's scum indicative for Koba. Not saying that can't do it as scum but it's also in their town repertoire.
cool, i think that's what counts
i have no idea what koba's alignment is. i just feel exhausted.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #55) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:20 pm

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I think there's an ocean of difference between struggling with charisma and trying to be directly unpleasant to people you scumread.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #56) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:30 pm

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are you... literally holding the game hostage... like with a blackmail note and terms and everything.... this is rad I'm so done. something about negotiating with agents of terror makes my stomach churn.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #57) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:32 am

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In post 414, Logic and Literature wrote:their insincerity is nai because it's just a thing they do
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if I thought koba was like overtly manipulative scum I'd vote them I just think they're like, kinda, personal-code-style neutral lawful
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Post Post #419 (isolation #58) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:34 am

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I'm happy to play w mistyx again so I'm hamfistedly pocketing her
I think she's kinda towny and I she's voting a slot I don't townread so it works for me :)
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Post Post #422 (isolation #59) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:03 am

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sorry I thought it was kinda evident that I'd skipped all of your posts with koba at that point. I think you're the only active players who are making sense so I want you to be town a lot. I just don't think you or pooky have restrictive scum ranges and this convo has been so stupid I think either of you would be able to navigate it well as either alignment. I'm calling you town and prayin though.

Ironically my vibe on Mistyx is the opposite of Koba? I don't think they've done anything motivated by looking good and they just read pureish
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Post Post #424 (isolation #60) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:04 am

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Just that someone I superficially like voted them first and im excited to see where this magical adventure leads us
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Post Post #436 (isolation #61) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:03 am

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I like Flea lol
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Post Post #437 (isolation #62) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:09 am

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This feels markedly less opportunistic unless like, koba is town and pocketable into endgame? uncertain

Flea feels like a mirror version of how I feel about this 1v1 and it's fascinating
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Post Post #465 (isolation #63) » Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:52 am

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your presence is passively funny.
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Post Post #850 (isolation #64) » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:39 pm

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Gg, grats scum
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Post Post #852 (isolation #65) » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:46 pm

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thanks for modding schadd!

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