Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[Naerys]

VOTE: cook

[Naerys]

I smell something fishy already

[Naerys]

i think so too
VOTE: dannflor

[Naerys]

I smell something fishy already

It's ok we co-ordinated that in the mason pt

in scum pt you mean

[Naerys]

[Naerys]

i think its Dann-python-Black

[Naerys]

Ya'll are wild with the solves. I don't have any reads based on pg 1

[Naerys]

I smell something fishy already

getting negative energy from this post

getting trying to discredit vibes from this post

[Naerys]

[Naerys]

no

[Naerys]

too slow

[Naerys]

I have played 2 scum games at once recently, i am town now, trust me

[Naerys]

huh, sorry about that prod i lost the track of time

[Naerys]

i need to keep in mind that this game has shorter prod range

[Naerys]

im trying to figure out where gob is going

He's not going anywhere. He's trying to seem busy. He made an early game solve with LG in it and now he's scumreading her without reason because he feels locked into that solve

More votes on gob please

Why not Naerys

bcz i am town

[Naerys]

Meh this probably isn't interesting

This game just feels like squeezing blood out of a stone rn

I still think naerys talking about discrediting on page 2 is the scummiest post in the game so far

Scum me would never say that at page 2

[Naerys]

i like crafting crazy theories as town, as scum i dont really want attention to be paid to me so i´d be hardworking to look towny

[Naerys]

i like crafting crazy theories as town, as scum i dont really want attention to be paid to me so i´d be hardworking to look towny

out of interest I went to look at your past topics, and in this game you accused a random argument of being distancing really early on as scum

What about the post made you feel like it was made to discredit?

python were trying to paint my opinion as scummy, when all i was doing was noting that there was something strange about early voting paterns
feels like they are trying to hide something

[Naerys]

I think naerys just uses awkward wording sometimes

Downside of not being native speaker

[Naerys]

Ausuka seems town as well

Agreed

She scares me though

why?

[Naerys]

fluffy pink balloon feels like LHF to me a bit

[Naerys]

fluffy pink balloon feels like LHF to me a bit

If he's LHF then why am I the only one pushing him

its just that i feel like gob is always being pushed for being...well, gob

[Naerys]

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

[Naerys]

VOTE: python

[Naerys]

i think its Dann-python-Black

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

Why so much interest in naming 3 people so early?

Thats how i always play

[Naerys]

Why?

[Naerys]

I honestly dont get why people are SRing me. I am putting honest effort into solving, meh

[Naerys]

So why arent we voting python?

i am

[Naerys]

i prefer python lim

[Naerys]

Anyway, what does everyone think about the idea that there are one or two wolves on my wagon? I feel like given how quickly it ran up to 4 or 5 or whatever, and knowing that Black is more likely town trying to pressure me. So davesaz, Drew.

why not light

[Naerys]

Need to catch up

[Naerys]

light/python/drew is my late d1 hero solve

light and python i agree, drew idk, i dont feel anythign scummy there

[Naerys]

Black and Virgo arent SvS, maybe SvT but most likely TvT

[Naerys]

dave hammer please

[Naerys]

Black and Virgo arent SvS, maybe SvT but most likely TvT

eyeroll emoji

[Naerys]

Black and Virgo arent SvS, maybe SvT but most likely TvT

eyeroll emoji

Yes.

So and so aren't scum vs scum is one of the most cringe inducing things to say on the planet

after you tho

[Naerys]

if you can call my aloud thinking cringe, i can call you cringe back

[Naerys]

you just awoke my pettyness

[Naerys]

Okay I didn’t want to say this but you all clearly missed the hints.

We're not mislimming a Mason today; get off of Python.

What hints?

[Naerys]

i am in low effort mode atm tbh

[Naerys]

why dave didnt hammer yet? sus

[Naerys]

As long as I get 1113 we gucci

Pedit: NO WTF

[Naerys]

where is the skip button

[Naerys]

Thanks dave

[Naerys]

VOTE: light_ganski
intent to stick to Dann´s hero solve

[Naerys]

Looking at people's general availability this game, I am thinking about reducing day deadlines to 3 days, but completely freezing them over weekends.

i have more time to play at weekends than at work days so speaking for myself nah

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys
Will likely sheep Dann later, for now this vote.

On date w/ fiancé, explanation later.

Curious about what made u SR me

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys
Will likely sheep Dann later, for now this vote.

On date w/ fiancé, explanation later.

Curious about what made u SR me

I caught signs you and usesPython were masons distancing with each other. I thought the masonry was you two and Ausuka, initially. While I later had my doubts, I thought the interaction remained distancing regardless.

Then usesPython didn't flip Mason or VT.

WTF I Was wary of python since beginning
USE UR HEAD COME ON i just helped to push scum out of window but apparently i am scum too smh

[Naerys]

Tinfoil hat:

If gob is town, then Python must really thought deepdown that he's telling the truth in #836 - as he could have done things differently if he thought he had the chance of pushing for a gob elimination.

Python's list of people who would go for Gob
- light/Black/Ranger/Python/Drew/Dave

Python's list of people who wouldn't vote for Gob
- gob/Naerys/Dann/HEM/STD/T-Bone/JV

Then everyone in the list of people who wouldn't vote for Gob is just town, and Python slipped.

Ye i think we should keep limming in those python spew as those who would vote gob untill bye scum

[Naerys]

Tinfoil hat:

If gob is town, then Python must really thought deepdown that he's telling the truth in #836 - as he could have done things differently if he thought he had the chance of pushing for a gob elimination.

Python's list of people who would go for Gob
- light/Black/Ranger/Python/Drew/Dave

Python's list of people who wouldn't vote for Gob
- gob/Naerys/Dann/HEM/STD/T-Bone/JV

Then everyone in the list of people who wouldn't vote for Gob is just town, and Python slipped.

Ye i think we should keep limming in those python spew as those who would vote gob untill bye scum

Ye i think we should keep limming in those python spew as those who would vote gob untill bye scum

What would your preferred lim order be in that list?

Not paying attention to your own TR and SR, and following a list that scum made, is a recipe for disaster.
Scumpoints for both of you.

Me sticking to limming python beats any scum points you may try to throw at me

[Naerys]

Ye i think we should keep limming in those python spew as those who would vote gob untill bye scum

What would your preferred lim order be in that list?

1) light
2)dave
3)drew
4)black
5)ranger

[Naerys]

VC 1.21

Votecount 1.21

usesPython (7):

gob, Naerys, Dannflor, humaneatingmonkey, Black, Save The Dragons, davesaz

[HAMMER]

Black (2):

usesPython, Ranger

Dannflor (2):

Doctor Drew, light_ganski

davesaz (1):

T-Bone

light_ganski (1):

JacksonVirgo

With 13 players alive, it took 7 votes to secure an elimination.

Mod notes:

• Fun fact: Alianna did more VCs than me this day phase which means she won and I lost
  
• Fun fact 2: I've recently modded a game where the flavor was (fake) facts and now I'm addicted to posting random facts as this VC plainly showcases.
  
• Actually important note:
  you all should PM me and Alianna a fast night request and then I could probably process the night phase before midnight in American time (specifically the time zone that's one hour later than EST). Wouldn't that be cool?
  
• Combined mod ISO

One of black/dave bussed their partner, their vote on python doesnt sit well with me
Last scum is out of wagon, probably its light

[Naerys]

Dann suspected her and dann is often right

[Naerys]

I think dann was killed bcz his reads were dangerous to scum so we should stick to his solve

[Naerys]

VC 1.16

Votecount 1.16

usesPython (4):

gob, Naerys, Dannflor, humaneatingmonkey

gob (3):

light_ganski, Black, Ranger

Black (3):

JacksonVirgo, usesPython, davesaz

T-Bone (1):

Save The Dragons

Dannflor (1):

Doctor Drew

davesaz (1):

T-Bone

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-29 17:40:53).

Mod notes:

• Combined mod ISO

I'm having a hard time believing all 3 scum started my wagon. So one of JV/Dave is probably town

Light black dave drew may contain both scum

[Naerys]

Can I axiomatically assume Black is town if Python's final swan song is a counterwagon against her?

Hmm i think its correct

[Naerys]

Light dave drew should contain atleast one scum, hopefully both

[Naerys]

VC 1.16

Votecount 1.16

usesPython (4):

gob, Naerys, Dannflor, humaneatingmonkey

gob (3):

light_ganski, Black, Ranger

Black (3):

JacksonVirgo, usesPython, davesaz

T-Bone (1):

Save The Dragons

Dannflor (1):

Doctor Drew

davesaz (1):

T-Bone

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-29 17:40:53).

Mod notes:

• Combined mod ISO

I'm having a hard time believing all 3 scum started my wagon. So one of JV/Dave is probably town

Light black dave drew may contain both scum

Why am I in your solve if you are sheeping Dann? I was Dann's strongest townread

Bcz i am bad at reading you and i am afraid of you

[Naerys]

It'll get even better when I can show why I believe Naerys is scum with usesPython.

if you are town, think again
if you are scum, just stfu

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys
Will likely sheep Dann later, for now this vote.

On date w/ fiancé, explanation later.

Curious about what made u SR me

In short: I believe I misidentified the scum as masons, and the masons as scum, yesterday. I believe I clearly saw them for what they are, partnered, yet got which group is masons/mafia reversed.

i dont know how did u get the thought of me being mason in ur head,i wasnt hinting at anything
my SR of python was genuine

[Naerys]

I can see nearly any combination there as mafia, although my personal theory is Naerys with someone else. Yet to be determined which.

No i am not.

[Naerys]

It will interest you to see a lack of progression from Naerys, despite numerous interactions with Python. Naerys kept the vote, yet never advocated for the Python elimination.

right so i bussed my buddy without even trying to save them
start using ur head pls

[Naerys]

If I had a dayvig

I would never use it because I wouldn't be able to decide which slot to target

i would shoot ranger bcz yes, i am this petty

[Naerys]

WTF I Was wary of python since beginning

Exactly the issue.

?
python was pretty obvious sus with their vote switching in rvs

[Naerys]

Me sticking to limming python beats any scum points you may try to throw at me

You sticking to Python is precisely the giveaway.

Town players often have doubts.

Not always. Sometimes the scum is so clear that no doubts are needed.

[Naerys]

dont try to force some kind of generalization upon me, it wont work

[Naerys]

If Naerys is scum with python I feel like she would have just swapped to my wagon when it was 5v5. That probably would have been enough to save Python. It would have been 6v4 and all they would need after that was a T-Bone or Drew hammer

I'm not sure if Naerys even had a read on me but if she could have done then believably then I'm not sure why scum!her wouldn't

I am glad that not all intelligence died with dann

[Naerys]

Me sticking to limming python beats any scum points you may try to throw at me

You sticking to Python is precisely the giveaway.

Town players often have doubts.

Not always. Sometimes the scum is so clear that no doubts are needed.

Are you always so certain on D1?

heck no

[Naerys]

My bet is Naerys.

´
blah blah blah this is getting old

[Naerys]

there was a clear "tee-hee~" between you two

No, there wasnt.

[Naerys]

VOTE: ranger
fine, if u wish 1v1 so be it, i am tired of ur nonsense
i will tear down ur logic tmorrow

[Naerys]

Once i finish in my work i will tell you how much crap you just threw at me
You are either really misguided town or scum

[Naerys]

10 + 11 looked coordinated.

if it was coordinated i wouldnt point out that something about the rvs votes was off
python were shading me

[Naerys]

10 + 11 looked coordinated.

16 was responded to with 22.

I saw 24 as continued strategic distancing.

I saw 25 as continued cheekiness of Naerys and usesPython being tied together as masons pretending to be mafia.

This is load of crap.

I smell something fishy already

It's ok we co-ordinated that in the mason pt

python was joking about being mason with Black and Dann since python-dann-black all voted cook so fast right after me - which i didnt like, i was like - wtf, 3 ppl voting right after my rvs
you are kinda ripping stuff out of context right here

[Naerys]

31 continued their ties together.

35 continued their cheekiness.

I smell something fishy already

getting negative energy from this post

getting trying to discredit vibes from this post

I take this more like a proof that my vibe feelings about python were right. I dont see anything cheeky there

[Naerys]

71 felt it was admitting they were masons being cheeky.

i dont see that anywhere in their post

146 felt like it was Naerys trying to cheekily say they were masons with usesPython.

i meant python was trying to hide their scuminess
and you are putting words into my mouth that i havent said

[Naerys]

This game becomes a mess of replacements

[Naerys]

If you want to disregard Dannflor's desires, I’ll happily let you, and would love to interest you in a Naerys elimination. Dannflor didn’t properly assess her presence on UsesPython, so she is the scum he missed.

part of me kinda wants to get limmed and then spit to ur face after you see my flip

[Naerys]

the third is someone like T-Bone

Or Naerys

Fuk off, thanks

[Naerys]

the third is someone like T-Bone

Or Naerys

Fuk off, thanks

Do you always lash out like this when being called scum?

No but logic of people in this game is annoying me

[Naerys]

True

[Naerys]

Feels like just bad

[Naerys]

Mostly ranger

[Naerys]

People don't act pissed on mafia accusing them with "Bad logic" they only get angry at town.

wtf?

[Naerys]

STD having cook so low is pretty wack

T-Bone/Dann/Naerys, that's our hero solve

I think this spews STD and T Bone as towns

[Naerys]

That post is a 0 on the Drewmometer, where's the wack

leaning town on Drew aswell

[Naerys]

Enchant

T-Bone

Doctor Drew

davesaz

gob

humaneatingmonkey

Naerys

Black

usesPython

Ranger

Save The Dragons

Dannflor

JacksonVirgo

looking at python iso my RL looks like this

[Naerys]

VC 1.21

Votecount 1.21

usesPython (7):

gob, Naerys, Dannflor, humaneatingmonkey, Black, Save The Dragons,

davesaz

[HAMMER]

Black (2):

usesPython, Ranger

Dannflor (2):

Doctor Drew,

light_ganski

davesaz (1):

T-Bone

light_ganski (1):

JacksonVirgo

With 13 players alive, it took 7 votes to secure an elimination.

Mod notes:

• Fun fact: Alianna did more VCs than me this day phase which means she won and I lost
  
• Fun fact 2: I've recently modded a game where the flavor was (fake) facts and now I'm addicted to posting random facts as this VC plainly showcases.
  
• Actually important note:
  you all should PM me and Alianna a fast night request and then I could probably process the night phase before midnight in American time (specifically the time zone that's one hour later than EST). Wouldn't that be cool?
  
• Combined mod ISO

i think i want to lim in dave/JV/Enchant today

[Naerys]

Just curious how that post makes me town though

i just dont think python would use words as drewmometer if you were buddies

[Naerys]

can you explain your dave read

i didnt see python to interact with dave at all, plus dave feels different from his towny self, i feel like his town self has much more presence than he has here

[Naerys]

Not sure on python, but that's nothing new for me

i think its Dann-python-Black

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

Why so much interest in naming 3 people so early?

posts that make you go hmm

i still think town but you having python on both your lists and dave responding like this is not the best look

oh lol i havent noticed that
VOTE: Davesaz

[Naerys]

I made my decision, i want to lim dave today

[Naerys]

why not dave?

[Naerys]

Personally, if I had to guess I would say Drew lazy town, I lean town on JacksonVirgo, and believe it's Naerys + Enchant. However, I know I could be wrong on my guess, so I will vote anyone not clearly town.

you vote "not clearly town" virgo but here you lean town on them
some contradictions, smh

[Naerys]

i think it might be ranger +dave

[Naerys]

Do i look like perspn who read game??

no, you dont even read your own posts

[Naerys]

me, sometimes

[Naerys]

VOTE: enchant
and i am off to sleep

[Naerys]

{Black, Naerys, Ranger}

{Doctor Drew, davesaz}

{T-Bone, Save the Dragons}

{JacksonVirgo}

i SR dave more than T Bone or StD
but i agree with voting Virgo today

[Naerys]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

[Naerys]

why are we town reading Black and StD again

[Naerys]

bcz i am paranoid

[Naerys]

Kek, bad at tracking time, sorry mod

[Naerys]

One of these days players will take a look at Naerys's iso and wonder why they didn't lim Naerys much sooner.

and then Naerys flips green and laughs to your face

[Naerys]

Naerys taking potshots at me has felt weird, and she would be in my POE.

why? hammering ur buddy is good way to look towny, so ofc i am shooting at you

[Naerys]

It would be interesting to look at Naerys' completed scumgame, though whether I'll have time is a question.

Yeah I wouldn't mind looking at Large Normal 246 but I have the same problem as you. A lot of my Mafia free time has been consumed by IRL stuff now

viewtopic.php?t=92020
take look at this one, won it as scum

[Naerys]

wdym, i did plenty

[Naerys]

VC 1.21

Votecount 1.21

usesPython (7):

gob, Naerys, Dannflor, humaneatingmonkey, Black, Save The Dragons,

davesaz

[HAMMER]

Black (2):

usesPython, Ranger

Dannflor (2):

Doctor Drew,

light_ganski

davesaz (1):

T-Bone

light_ganski (1):

JacksonVirgo

With 13 players alive, it took 7 votes to secure an elimination.

Mod notes:

• Fun fact: Alianna did more VCs than me this day phase which means she won and I lost
  
• Fun fact 2: I've recently modded a game where the flavor was (fake) facts and now I'm addicted to posting random facts as this VC plainly showcases.
  
• Actually important note:
  you all should PM me and Alianna a fast night request and then I could probably process the night phase before midnight in American time (specifically the time zone that's one hour later than EST). Wouldn't that be cool?
  
• Combined mod ISO

still going by this

i think i want to lim in dave/JV/Enchant today

[Naerys]

aaaa stupid quote

[Naerys]

gob-naerys-dannflor-monkey is nice town block on python right there,
if bussing happened we need to look into Black-StD-Dave and out of those i feel dave is the most likely to be scum

[Naerys]

Ranger, you are so incredibly

wrong

[Naerys]

happy scumday Dragon

[Naerys]

gob and i shared this idea that we are sus at naerys for their reactions

I certainly agree. That's the first thing I noticed about Naerys.

Her reactions the whole game have felt faked. When I believed her a mason, I wrote it off as a mason not knowing how to hide herself. Knowing she isn't one, I've a different theory now.

I am not faking anything, thank you very much.

[Naerys]

* some incomprehensible noise*

there, fixed

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys

Good idea
VOTE: Naerys

[Naerys]

Drew might be scum

[Naerys]

Like, why would Nae self vote there?

If you are town and being genuinely frustrated that you are being scum read, then really push for someone to hammer Jackson......ya know, the person you are voting for?

I agree it feels a little performative and not really in the townie way but I've seen town self vote out of frustration before. I think you are expecting Naerys to make the optimal play in a moment of weakness but I'm not sure that's fair

i just dont want to deal with ranger twisting everything i do or say anymore, it kinda brings out my worst personality traits

[Naerys]

if you're town can you ignore ranger's posts and not self vote

if you're scum do what you want

i am town and i do what i want

[Naerys]

fine
VOTE: davesaz

[Naerys]

i still want to solve in the black-std-dave part of python wagon

[Naerys]

hmm black wagon started to form after python was getting close to lim
-> black town

VC 1.17

Votecount 1.17

usesPython (5):

gob, Naerys, Dannflor, humaneatingmonkey, Black

Black (4):

JacksonVirgo, usesPython, davesaz, Ranger

gob (1):

light_ganski

T-Bone (1):

Save The Dragons

Dannflor (1):

Doctor Drew

davesaz (1):

T-Bone

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-29 17:40:53).

Mod notes:

• Combined mod ISO

this kinda obviously shows atleast one of JV, dave, Ranger is scum

[Naerys]

ranger can talk about my position on python whatever she wants, but hers on black is just as bad
Black being another scum wagon is very unlikely due python
i also dont like dave in there
ranger+ dave buddies maybe

[Naerys]

VOTE: usesPython

Briefly skimmed over why people are voting for me and their vote feels the worst by far. It feels like they are just trying to make any wagon possible happen instead of actually trying to catch scum

I'll be back later to fully catch up

fuck it maybe i'm just wrong

VOTE: python

that's e-1 i think

VOTE: usesPython

[Naerys]

ou actually read the whole interaction about the timing of my Python vote, you'd see I'm absolutely town.

Indulge me and explain why do u think those are towny

[Naerys]

to hammer or not to hammer

this one feels pretty scummy imo

[Naerys]

you are giving me large 244 vibes where you were scum

[Naerys]

town!dave is more

proactive

in this game dave exists, but he kinda feels much more

reactive

[Naerys]

If Dave didn't hammer I would have (or probably Drew would have) so I'm not sure what the argument you're making. Someone was going to hammer.

my problem with dave is much larger than that hammer,
i probably shouldnt be asking that question (someone has to tho, even if its hypocritical) - What is he doing? I am not feeling that scum hunting drive i felt from his town!self

[Naerys]

Who do you think is scum? What are your reads, dave?

[Naerys]

I mean I agree he could be scum I just thought the hammer was a weird thing to pick at when I think anyone of any alignment would have done it.

that hammer was the point of me starting to truly suspect dave, cant even explain why, i just started to feel something was off

[Naerys]

Dang xD

[Naerys]

I am glad people started to think about dave slot

[Naerys]

Anyway,

VOTE: dave

Why not Nae?

Why not you?

[Naerys]

Ranger t-bone drew should contain atleast 1 scum

[Naerys]

Happy bday, DragonEater

[Naerys]

VOTE: ranger

[Naerys]

Next day is mylo if we are wrong

[Naerys]

Dodge

[Naerys]

Do the two of you each have someone else you'd like to suggest?

Drew. For me its either Ranger or Drew today

[Naerys]

Ranger if I were scum I would have already hammered you here

Would you? I personally wouldnt.

[Naerys]

I had a dream in which Black flipped scum,lol.

[Naerys]

I had a dream in which Black flipped scum,lol.

Listen to your dreams, they're often prophetic.

I had a dream last night that a demon was stalking me in my house and kept touching my toes while I slept.

Would have much cooler if it was a succubus

laugh it up but subconsciousness is powerfull stuff

[Naerys]

skimmed drew iso and i think i want to yeet him first
i feel like drew didnt do much through whole game
VOTE: drew

[Naerys]

skimmed drew iso and i think i want to yeet him first
i feel like drew didnt do much through whole game
VOTE: drew

So effort only comes from town?

no but if ranger is scum, she puts rather good effort into it and i wouldnt mind losing to her
on the other side you are kinda stuck on "nae is scum" and then there is nothing else

[Naerys]

[Naerys]

VOTE: cook

VOTE: cook

VOTE: cook

VOTE: cook

i think so too
VOTE: dannflor

join me on the light side

VOTE: dannflor

VOTE: Dannflor

I smell something fishy already

It's ok we co-ordinated that in the mason pt

you know i have been thinking about black being scum
there is something in those early interactions that just doesnt sit well with me
meh this game is a mess

[Naerys]

in a case ranger is green then black is probably scum

[Naerys]

i know
i kinda started to dislike both wagons and i am going crazy -.-

[Naerys]

Part of me wants to flashwagon Black but I know that's not helpful.

Willing to join that.

[Naerys]

bruh... Black you knew i would push you right

[Naerys]

Anyway well played scum

[Naerys]

Ironically i kinda felt its Black/StD after Ranger flip but i got nked

[Naerys]

bg

I disagree, this was a wonderful game.

It was fun. I was taught that one should believe in subconsciousness
Next time i dream that Black is scum i will vote there

[Naerys]

Yes, thanks for modding Dragon

[Naerys]

Btw is it just me or are the first impressions from rvs kinda underestimated? I had a feeling there was something fishy there and i was right.