Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

nancy · Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:44 pm

VOTE: JaeReed

FIRST FIRST OMG

nancy · Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:45 pm

(I know it's pre-game but that's irrelevant.)

nancy · Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:49 pm

In post 5, Transcend wrote:also jae i forbid us from tvting d1

FORBID IT

Oh so you know alignments.

You must be scum then.

In post 7, Rileycountant wrote:Oh man this player list is pretty hype

++++

nancy · Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:23 am

VOTE: momo

I like this wagon. Darklyn is obvscum, however, so I should probably move my vote there soon.

nancy · Post Post #46 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:28 pm

In post 32, Darklyn wrote:VOTE: nancy lynch all females tbh

Wow die sexist.

VOTE: Darklyn

In post 34, Transcend wrote:Oh but you sigged me now i want to move my vote again

Can you honestly tell me that my sr on you is just an illusion?

'Tis an illusion. But where did it come from lmao I thought you were joking

nancy · Post Post #47 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:29 pm

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP CAPITALIZING THE N IN NANCY THANK YOU

nancy · Post Post #51 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:48 pm

Grendel are you trying to obvtown in RVS.

Because it's working.

@TB usux

nancy · Post Post #56 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:07 pm

In post 54, Grendel wrote:@nANCY & Thinkbig

What do you guys think of mr green eyes?

LOL

I likes him more than I likes you.

I think he made a bad, not terrible, point though.

nancy · Post Post #64 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:08 pm

In post 60, momo wrote:Lets hop onto someone else's early wagon since they are fun. (Can't really hop on mine. )

CAN'T YOU!?!?!?

VOTE: nancy

nancy · Post Post #66 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:57 pm

VOTE: Darklyn

Darklyn > momo > Korts

nancy · Post Post #129 (isolation #10) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:51 am

Oh noooooooo scum is voting me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE: momo

Your partner didn't want to bus but back to L-2 you go.

nancy · Post Post #132 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:08 pm

Liar.

pedit

nancy · Post Post #135 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:18 pm

I want my scumread to die. How horrible of me!!

nancy · Post Post #151 (isolation #13) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:31 pm

In post 148, Grendel wrote:
@Nancy

Did you forget to answer this?

In post 59, Grendel wrote:
nancy wrote:
In post 54, Grendel wrote:@nANCY & Thinkbig

What do you guys think of mr green eyes?
LOL

I likes him more than I likes you.

I think he made a bad, not terrible, point though.
SO you think I'm looking kinda town, but Green is more town? Why is that?

Also, do you think trans is trying to sort you rn, or is just screwing around due to RVS?

Its hard to tell.

No, I just never read it. Let's say "tone" and "gut". Transcend is being Transcend.

nancy · Post Post #152 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:32 pm

Let's make competing wagons great again.

VOTE: Darklyn

nancy · Post Post #158 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:10 pm

Attaboy Darklyn.

VOTE: momo

Mod error in VC 1.8 - I am counted twice

<< I have no idea what you're talking about

>>

nancy · Post Post #159 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:12 pm

In post 154, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 137, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 29, nancy wrote:Darklyn is obvscum, however, so I should probably move my vote there soon.
Joke or serious?

Joke but my read on the slot is more scum than null.

nancy · Post Post #167 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:38 pm

In post 162, RadiantCowbells wrote:nancy why did u have to be a scumbutt

I didn't choose this life, it chose me.

nancy · Post Post #178 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:47 pm

I just wanted to appease you Transcend is that so bad.

(I was actually predicting the OMGUS and I'm now the competing wagon. Mission accomplished. Darklyn is a faithful servant.)

nancy · Post Post #183 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:54 pm

nancy · Post Post #187 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:06 pm

I'm scared I hardclaim Hufflepuff.

nancy · Post Post #190 (isolation #21) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:18 pm

In post 188, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 187, nancy wrote:I'm scared I hardclaim Hufflepuff.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN nANCY PANSY!!!!

*gnaws on you*

Can't tell if serious.

nancy · Post Post #193 (isolation #22) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:56 pm

Riley. Time to declare whether you're trolling here or whether you're serious. No take backs.

nancy · Post Post #195 (isolation #23) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:00 pm

Good.

VOTE: Riley

Thanks.

1. Your scumhunting is fake as fuck.

I don't even need to count to 2.

nancy · Post Post #196 (isolation #24) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:01 pm

In post 192, Korts wrote:Well I have the L-3 vote on momo while calling Darklyn obvscum as a pretty fucking transparent thing that you don't do as someone who is trying to play the game

A. How is putting a scumread at L-3 scummy?
B. Humorous hyperbole.

nancy · Post Post #198 (isolation #25) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:27 pm

Bzzt. Try again.

nancy · Post Post #203 (isolation #26) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:22 pm

Lol both scumheads making the same mistake.

nancy · Post Post #204 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:24 pm

I like your fake hydra synchronicity though.

nancy · Post Post #208 (isolation #28) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:24 pm

In post 205, Rileycountant wrote:Oh no! Both heads of a hydra agree on reads! What trickery is this? It's almost as if they had private avenues of discussion to agree on reads so that there's no tedious hydra dissonance for the rest of the game to deal with!

No. If you were really town who thought you caught scum, you should be chomping at the bit to explain to everyone just how fake we are, exactly what mistakes we make and why this confirms as scum. You should be jumping up and down, going "look! This is scum and this is why they are scum!!" rather than sitting back and going "haha you're scum, I won't explain why". That's because town wants to convince other people of their scumreads, while scum doesn't(they're fine with lynching pretty much anyone that isn't a member of their team).

Compare to Brussels Sprouts, where you(as town) engaged with me, talked to people about your scumreads and why, and generally acted like you were actually the mildest bit interested in catching scum.

Lol pretending you and I play the same way. The synchronicity is actually fake because I know town!you wouldn't have that assessment of my play, wouldn't make that post there, and because the tone is just off.

nancy · Post Post #210 (isolation #29) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:31 pm

In post 209, Rileycountant wrote:You definitely don't know me well, then. All I see is you dicking around while pretending to scumhunt, then voting us when we call you out on your BS. You're not RC, and your attempt to imitate his style is both bad and scummy.

Also, "the tone is just off" is literally the most vague, generic reason I've ever heard someone give for scumreading someone else.

Lmfaoooo. Now I'm wondering whether you actually believe that or are just making up random shit to try and sound good. I don't think I need to explain what a tonal read is to you

nancy · Post Post #216 (isolation #30) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:58 pm

The tone, particularly the word choice and sentence flow, of 202 says that you are fake. Your descriptions of play in 202 says that you are fake. The timing of Accountant emerging and Riley receding says that you are fake. There's no nuance in your stances. You're like the quintessential rabid scum forced by being caught into jumping on superficialities in the attempt to blow them out of proportion and in so doing seem like someone who is actually doing any real hunting. You and Riley are either both bad scumhunters or you're just scum. Gonna go with the latter.

nancy · Post Post #217 (isolation #31) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:59 pm

In post 215, RadiantCowbells wrote:Fate wishes he were me. I've claimed 10 fake guilties that I've carried through to a lynch and all have been on scum

I'm apparently trying to mimic your playstyle. Thoughts?

nancy · Post Post #247 (isolation #32) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:49 pm

In post 220, Rileycountant wrote:It's not superficialities. It would be jumping on superficialities if I did it while you were in RVS or just-out-of-RVS. Someone who chooses to continue intentionally fluffing after the game has started
and a major wagon involving them is underway
is either: a) a useless lurksack or b) scum trying to hide behind a facade of bravado. There is no reason for town to continue to refuse to engage at that point, and you trying to dismiss it as a superficiality is a really bad misrepresentation of the case against you. Not to mention that you conveniently forgot to include the actual reason why Riley voted you, which is 158.

I'm not sure what you mean about the timing of me emerging and Riley receding; if you're implying that it's an experienced player taking over for a newbie after the newbie faces scum pressure, then that makes no sense, because I could just as easily coach her in private chat. Also waiting for you to explain to the class why the word choice and sentence flow of 202 makes us scum.

Wut when did I saw that Riley was a newbie. Riley voted me because you're a scumlot and you thought you could get away with misrepping me lol.

nancy · Post Post #249 (isolation #33) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:52 pm

In post 224, Rileycountant wrote:Riddle me this, Jae. There are people here who've played with you before. I know there are people here who've played with you before. Why would I, as scum, lie about your meta or my experiences with you when if that was the case I'd get called out for BS by those people?

I'd like to know why you did this too because it's obviously complete BS

nancy · Post Post #252 (isolation #34) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:53 pm

In post 237, RadiantCowbells wrote:my only regret is that i have but one vote to put on rc

You can have two you just have to BELIEVE.

nancy · Post Post #255 (isolation #35) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:55 pm

In post 238, Rileycountant wrote:Compare your entrance there and your entrance here - it's totally different.

Oh noo someone is changing their play from one game to another!!!!!!!!!!11one!!!11!!

nancy · Post Post #259 (isolation #36) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:57 pm

In post 250, Rileycountant wrote:Riley voted you because you immediately pretended it was a reaction test/trap for scum when called out on trying to push an opposing wagon. I don't think you actually were, because I don't think momo is scum here, but it was the concern about how you look to the rest of the playerlist that gave you away. Town has no reason to care that Transcend thinks they're pushing an opposing wagon; they'd flip him the bird and go back to pushing their scumread. Unless you're trying to tell me it was a reaction test, which it wasn't.

I literally have no idea what you are even saying here.

nancy · Post Post #263 (isolation #37) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:57 pm

In post 256, RadiantCowbells wrote:SILENCE HEATHEN

nancy · Post Post #264 (isolation #38) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:59 pm

I feel like I should probably hand-hold people through my ISO at this point just to make it obvious how full of shit Rileyccountant is.

nancy · Post Post #267 (isolation #39) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:00 am

In post 261, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 255, nancy wrote:
In post 238, Rileycountant wrote:Compare your entrance there and your entrance here - it's totally different.
Oh noo someone is changing their play from one game to another!!!!!!!!!!11one!!!11!!
The question at hand here isn't whether Jae changing their play is scummy. The question at hand here is whether or not Jae did change their play, because I said they did, and they said I was lying through my teeth.

Well, you are, so you kinda can't blame them.

nancy · Post Post #271 (isolation #40) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:01 am

Oh look Accountant is pretending to be appeased.

nancy · Post Post #278 (isolation #41) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:03 am

RC how intoxicated are you on a scale of 1 to COLORS N' SWIRLS?

nancy · Post Post #284 (isolation #42) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:06 am

I'm actually tempted to say I know who Riley is and if I'm right I would probably drop my SR of the slot but there's no real way to confirm it so hm.

nancy · Post Post #292 (isolation #43) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:11 am

In post 287, RadiantCowbells wrote:nancy I note taht you haven't said much to transcend about him voting you and hardpushing you: why

I can't answer until he does more things without influencing what he'll do.

nancy · Post Post #294 (isolation #44) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:11 am

In post 286, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 284, nancy wrote:I'm actually tempted to say I know who Riley is and if I'm right I would probably drop my SR of the slot but there's no real way to confirm it so hm.
You don't. Trust me. I know Riley. You don't know Riley.

Do they have an alt that begins with the letter C?

nancy · Post Post #297 (isolation #45) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:14 am

In post 290, JaeReed wrote:If you're town, stop this. This is unnecessary and all I'm seeing is buddying. I can fight my own battles.

Lol I'm not buddying and you already responded to it so I am therefore allowed to as well.

pedit okay I don't know who it is then.

nancy · Post Post #299 (isolation #46) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:16 am

cassielle

nancy · Post Post #300 (isolation #47) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:33 am

In post 240, Darklyn wrote:Howling at this game

Ikr.

pedit oh this never got posted lol stupid preview block

nancy · Post Post #301 (isolation #48) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:35 am

Wow guys it's not like I said Voldemort or anything you don't all have to abscond to the crannies.

nancy · Post Post #306 (isolation #49) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:07 am

Have you done anything except clog up the thread since before that time Accountant?

nancy · Post Post #307 (isolation #50) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:08 am

In post 305, Darklyn wrote:@Riley: not not really, I legit think nancy might be scum though

I guess I'm hoping for a little too much if I ask for reasons.

nancy · Post Post #309 (isolation #51) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:12 am

nancy · Post Post #311 (isolation #52) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:03 am

Uhh.

Why are you parroting me.

VOTE: momo

nancy · Post Post #319 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:33 am

In post 316, momo wrote:So currently my scum trio is as follows:

1. Rileycountant
2. Nancy (was prob bussing)
3. ????

Distancing =! bussing. I'm a stickler. Also wut.

nancy · Post Post #320 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:35 am

Prepare to be handheld, nerds.

nancy · Post Post #322 (isolation #55) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:51 am

Let's take a walk through a wall.

Spoiler:

In post 29, nancy wrote:VOTE: momo

I like this wagon. Darklyn is obvscum, however, so I should probably move my vote there soon.

Picking the largest wagon to get out of RVS, making note of my disfavor towards the tone in Darklyn's opening.

In post 46, nancy wrote:
In post 32, Darklyn wrote:VOTE: nancy lynch all females tbh
Wow die sexist.

VOTE: Darklyn

OMGUS on the aforementioned scum after eliciting a reaction to the momo wagon (from Transcend).

In post 51, nancy wrote:Grendel are you trying to obvtown in RVS.

Because it's working.

@TB usux

Lightly probing Grendel, making note of townvibes from the slot with the caveat that their behavior seems forced.

In post 56, nancy wrote:
In post 54, Grendel wrote:@nANCY & Thinkbig

What do you guys think of mr green eyes?
LOL

I likes him more than I likes you.

I think he made a bad, not terrible, point though.

Responding in a jocular way to Grendel's questionable question while subtly expressing my disagreement with Crayon's agreement that the early wagon on momo was indicative of momo's alignment.

In post 64, nancy wrote:
In post 60, momo wrote:Lets hop onto someone else's early wagon since they are fun. (Can't really hop on mine. )
CAN'T YOU!?!?!?

VOTE: nancy

Demonstrating the phony upkeep of a respectable townie image inherent in momo's comment.

In post 66, nancy wrote:VOTE: Darklyn

Darklyn > momo > Korts

Voting a scum on radar and giving partial reads.

In post 129, nancy wrote:Oh noooooooo scum is voting me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE: momo

Your partner didn't want to bus but back to L-2 you go.

Voting a scum on radar in order to keep the wagon on him strong.

In post 151, nancy wrote:No, I just never read it. Let's say "tone" and "gut". Transcend is being Transcend.

Interacting in an oblique way to questions I do not approve of.

In post 152, nancy wrote:Let's make competing wagons great again.

VOTE: Darklyn

Sensing the quasi-RVS wagon on momo is in danger of growing stale, I bait an OMGUS out of Darklyn in an attempt to inject energy into the game again.

In post 158, nancy wrote:Attaboy Darklyn.

VOTE: momo

Mod error in VC 1.8 - I am counted twice

<< I have no idea what you're talking about >>

Revote a scum on my radar.

Riley's response

In post 166, Rileycountant wrote:I don't trust this... ONCE TRANSY YELLED AT HER FOR MAKING A COMPETING WAGON SHE ACTS LIKE IT WAS FAKE ALL ALONG!!!!

Doesn't even attempt to see the motivation behind my vote, instead projects a fake and superficial narrative to justify a read.

In post 159, nancy wrote:
In post 154, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 137, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 29, nancy wrote:Darklyn is obvscum, however, so I should probably move my vote there soon.
Joke or serious?
Joke but my read on the slot is more scum than null.

Clarify that I was indeed joking when I called Darklyn obvscum in RVS.

In post 178, nancy wrote:(I was actually predicting the OMGUS and I'm now the competing wagon. Mission accomplished. Darklyn is a faithful servant.)

Explanation.

Riley's response

In post 185, Rileycountant wrote:NANCY IF YOU WERE TOWN YOU'D BE TRYING TA SOLVE THE GAME INSTEAD OF DOING NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!

In post 188, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 187, nancy wrote:I'm scared I hardclaim Hufflepuff.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN nANCY PANSY!!!!

*gnaws on you*

In post 191, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 189, Hiraki wrote:Can someone articulate anything that nancy has done that is actually scummy?
YEAH!!! SHE KEEPS REFUSING TO PLAY THE GAME!!! ALSO THAT THINGIE WITH THE COMPETING WAGONSIES WHERE SHE SOUNDED REALLY FAKE!!!!!

Still ignoring the actual substance of my posts to push a fake narrative. Shitposting is NAI, btw.

In post 190, nancy wrote:Can't tell if serious.

Prod at Riley to indicate whether or not they are seriously scumreading me.

In post 193, nancy wrote:Riley. Time to declare whether you're trolling here or whether you're serious. No take backs.

Forcing Riley to answer.

Riley's response

In post 194, Rileycountant wrote:I WAS SERIOUS!!!! YOU DOING STUFFSIES LIKE CLAIMING HUFFLEPUFF MEANS YA PREFER TO YELL AT PEOPLE RATHER THAN REALLY TRYING TA CATCH SCUM!!!!

Probably already caught a scum probably just caught another.

In post 195, nancy wrote:Good.

VOTE: Riley

Thanks.

1. Your scumhunting is fake as fuck.

I don't even need to count to 2.

Their answer resulting in a scumread. Voting said scumread.

Riley's response

In post 197, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 196, nancy wrote:
In post 192, Korts wrote:Well I have the L-3 vote on momo while calling Darklyn obvscum as a pretty fucking transparent thing that you don't do as someone who is trying to play the game
A. How is putting a scumread at L-3 scummy?
B. Humorous hyperbole.
BECAUSE YA AREN'T VOTING DARKLYN WHO YA SAID WAS OBVSCUM!!!!!!!!!! AND MY SCUMHUNTING ISN'T FAKE!!!! YOU'RE JUST MAD I CAUGHT YA AND SNEAKILY TRYING TA VOTE US BACK!!!!

Garcia. More fakery. Pretending to be unable to parse humor. (You only have 1 vote.)

In post 198, nancy wrote:Bzzt. Try again.

The only appropriate answer to such an awful response.

Accountant's response

In post 202, Rileycountant wrote:Agree with Riley that nancy is scum, but it's not because of her being useless; it's because of the fact that she's using fake reaction tests to essentially be able to have a read without explaining why(see: votes on Darklyn and us). This is scum blatantly pushing for whatever lynches they want without having the burden of justifying why they're doing so, and then hiding under trolly behavior to try and get away with it.

Lolbullshit. The best I can say for this is scum attempting to fake conf!bias.

In post 196, nancy wrote:
In post 192, Korts wrote:Well I have the L-3 vote on momo while calling Darklyn obvscum as a pretty fucking transparent thing that you don't do as someone who is trying to play the game
A. How is putting a scumread at L-3 scummy?
B. Humorous hyperbole.

Sorting Korts.

#howtogetscumread2017

nancy · Post Post #337 (isolation #56) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:45 am

In post 325, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 320, nancy wrote:Prepare to be
handheld
walked through a series of post hoc justifications for scummy actions backed by a sloppy attempt to imitate RC's cockiness, nerds.
Refutations coming soon.

Loooooool.

nancy · Post Post #338 (isolation #57) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:46 am

In post 327, Transcend wrote:Well this thread hasn't been happy so I'm here to bring happiness to the thread

*brings out a plate of warm gooey chocolate chip cookies, some cups, and a pitcher of ice cold 2% milk*

Psh I've been happy. But thanks. Nom nom eww cow's milk I'm vegan.

nancy · Post Post #339 (isolation #58) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:47 am

In post 333, Transcend wrote:
In post 316, momo wrote:So currently my scum trio is as follows:

1. Rileycountant
2. Nancy (was prob bussing)
3. ????
This is poo poo

Lol I figured you were just trolling.

nancy · Post Post #342 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:49 am

In post 336, Transcend wrote:
In post 334, momo wrote:Okay transcend.

Who is your scum trio??
Idk do i look like some mafia guru

Wait you're not a mafia guru all my belief systems are coming crashing down waahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhbhbhbfhfjhgtutuhbtbhu ;~; ;~; ;~; ;~;

pedit then why are you pretending to scumread me lol

nancy · Post Post #343 (isolation #60) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:51 am

Spoiler:

In post 329, Rileycountant wrote:
Picking the largest wagon to get out of RVS, making note of my disfavor towards the tone in Darklyn's opening.
Given that calling Darklyn obvscum was clearly presented as a joke, this is a really bad "note". Plus, there's 0 reason for you to do this rather than just say "the tone in Darklyn's opening is bad". I'm going to repeat myself.
Town love to explain themselves.
(Barring specific playstyle issues like RC has, which I think are frankly a bad way to play the game, and which I know nancy doesn't share) Why? Because they want everyone to know exactly why they scumread so and so, they want people to follow them onto their wagon and that means giving reasoning. If I am town and I see that the tone in Darklyn's opening is bad, I want everyone to see it, too, so they are aware of Darklyn's scumminess. Saying obliquely that "Darklyn is obvscum" is obviously not a good way of doing this, and I'm sure that nancy knows this.

OMGUS on the aforementioned scum after eliciting a reaction to the momo wagon (from Transcend).
You didn't elicit jack. You didn't engage Transcend on the momo wagon at all and pretending that you had any role to play in Transcend's reactions to the wagon is heavily disingenuous.

Lightly probing Grendel, making note of townvibes from the slot with the caveat that their behavior seems forced.
This is not probing. Grendel has no reason to respond to that post as either alignment. I don't buy at all that you're trying to communicate this kind of BS - unless you were deliberately crumbing the read for some unknown reason, this is an overly-oblique way to get this message across.

Interacting in an oblique way to questions I do not approve of.
^ this is scummy behavior, btw. This is another way of saying "I deliberately chose not to engage with Transcend because I didn't feel like it". No prizes for guessing why.

Doesn't even attempt to see the motivation behind my vote, instead projects a fake and superficial narrative to justify a read.
I'm not going to speak for Riley here; she can speak for herself. But that narrative is hardly fake and superficial. Someone switching wagons from A to B, then switching back after getting called out for pushing a counterwagon is someone who cares a lot more about her image than she'd like others to think. It smacks of insincerity in the original wagon switch, and there is nothing fake or superficial in recognizing that and calling that out, no matter how many times you blindly repeat that.

Note: Transcend quoted that post and wrote "exactly!!!!". Why is he not on your fabled scumdar for agreeing with a fake and superficial narrative?

Interestingly enough, you admit it:

Sensing the quasi-RVS wagon on momo is in danger of growing stale, I bait an OMGUS out of Darklyn in an attempt to inject energy into the game again.
That is, you were making the vote not because you believe Darklyn is more scummy than momo, but because you were trying to bait Darklyn. There's only one problem with this: it's... well, it's simply not true. Let us say that you vote Darklyn here and OMGUS'es back, which he does. This doesn't lead to an injection of energy into the game, nor does it help you advance your reads on anyone or sort people. Telling me that you were doing this as some sort of far-fetched reaction test is a flat out lie.

Shitposting is NAI, btw.
Shitposting is NAI. Shitposting
instead of providing content
is AI. And no, nancy, posts that require an essay on symbology and hidden meanings in order to understand it as content rather than shitposting is not content.

Prod at Riley to indicate whether or not they are seriously scumreading me.
Also BS. Whether or not Riley is "seriously scumreading you", she'd still be pushing the same narrative forth that you called fake and shallow earlier. If you think that's scummy, you should have voted Riley immediately on post 166.

TL;DR

nancy · Post Post #344 (isolation #61) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:51 am

Sleepytimes.

You're trying so hard Accountant I almost feel bad.

nancy · Post Post #381 (isolation #62) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:08 am

Oh, great, this is one of those games where scum are scumreading my slot and other people are buying into it because they're lazy and can't be fucked reading between the lines. I feel super motivated and interested in this game now.

Btw if Transcend's SR on my slot is real then he's scum.

Riley is still scum or in a distant universe just bad!Town.

nancy · Post Post #392 (isolation #63) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:19 am

Cause I called it a scumslot.

nancy · Post Post #395 (isolation #64) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:21 am

Cause he's scum.

nancy · Post Post #398 (isolation #65) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:30 am

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nancy · Post Post #402 (isolation #66) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:39 am

I can save you reading Accountant's ISO at least:

Spoiler: Accountant's ISO

nancy · Post Post #427 (isolation #67) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:34 pm

In post 413, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: nancy

? You scum lol?

In post 419, Darklyn wrote:If you think she's anti-town you shouldn't be that bothered if people vote for her, let her defend herself

No one's given any actual reasons for voting me so..? I mean you can technically count Accountant as having given reasons but not really.

In post 418, ThinkBig wrote:Here is why I am scum reading Darklyn and here is my case against him.

Post 11, 28, and 32 are all RVS votes from Darklyn. He made 3 RVS votes. By post 32, we should be starting to break out of the RVS mindset. Post 32, by the way, was made when Momo was at L-2. We had someone at L-2 and the best he can contribute was an RVS vote on nancy?

Post 65 is all kinds of yuck.

107 he votes for me and I ask him for an explanation. He promises one and has so far failed to deliver.

Post 206 you want to see more from horrordude, but you have barely contributed yourself and have made posts that are essentially contentless. How can you tell another player that you want to hear more from them but you haven't really contributed yourself?

His ISO is bad and he needs rope. I seriously don't want this anywhere near MyLo.

VOTE: Transcend

I'm voting scum. Town!Transcend doesn't SR me here ever.

nancy · Post Post #428 (isolation #68) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:35 pm

RC might be scum but I can't tell if he's just trolling.

nancy · Post Post #430 (isolation #69) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:37 pm

He's been super fucking weird but I just figured he was trolling this whole time. Doesn't seem to be lol.

nancy · Post Post #431 (isolation #70) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:38 pm

If he's scum it might be because he knows I can read him really well and he wants me dead D1? Dunno.

nancy · Post Post #433 (isolation #71) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:39 pm

RC I know is able to read me so the same more or less applies in terms of genuine SR = probscum.

pedit just calling it how I see it

nancy · Post Post #436 (isolation #72) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:42 pm

Fro99er is also weird this game btw. (I played with him in Pine's Death Trap very recently.) Not enough content to judge that yet.

nancy · Post Post #463 (isolation #73) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:55 pm

In post 438, Fro99er wrote:ninja'd ... hi nancy. Why am I weird?

You're usually all over the place with all caps like a rabid kitten.

nancy · Post Post #466 (isolation #74) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:57 pm

nancy · Post Post #468 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:57 pm

scumslot confirmed

I guess that means the whole scumteam is voting me rofl?

nancy · Post Post #470 (isolation #76) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:59 pm

Nah I dropped my SR of Darklyn a while ago.

nancy · Post Post #474 (isolation #77) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:00 pm

Transcend/Fro99er/RC/Accountant, Accountant could just be having a bad game.

nancy · Post Post #480 (isolation #78) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:02 pm

465 is scum btw because all I said was that Fro99er was weird and it couldn't be judged without more content, the reaction is pretty obvscum. He also just still seems weird.

nancy · Post Post #485 (isolation #79) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:06 pm

Yeah. Hard to get a read on your personality but I highly doubt you're behaving this way towards my wagon / Hiraki as scum.

nancy · Post Post #488 (isolation #80) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:07 pm

Hard to get a hammer when everyone off the wagon is Town, huh Fro99er?

pedit nah your reactions have just been scumtastic

nancy · Post Post #491 (isolation #81) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:07 pm

No because literally the only way I get mislynched today is by all the scum being on my wagon.

nancy · Post Post #494 (isolation #82) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:08 pm

In post 489, Fro99er wrote:
In post 485, nancy wrote:Yeah. Hard to get a read on your personality but I highly doubt you're behaving this way towards my wagon / Hiraki as scum.
how am I behaving toward Hiraki?

I haven't interacted with Hiraki yet

That was @Darklyn.

nancy · Post Post #505 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:11 pm

No it's just confidence in my ability to be obvtown.

nancy · Post Post #537 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:40 pm

Woahh woah let us be calm for a moment here and consider the chakra.

nancy · Post Post #570 (isolation #85) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:31 pm

In post 564, Darklyn wrote:If they knew better they'd wagon her towards the end of day 1, RC's vote looked more like a joke than anything else, we still have 11 days to go she won't be lynched

Go read 219 and and 472 in context

nancy · Post Post #571 (isolation #86) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:35 pm

In post 565, Fro99er wrote:I dunno. There were times RC had a genuine scumread of you in Pine's game

He was more paranoid of my slot in that game than anything, besides which it ended, we talked about why I did what, and he's had more experience with my play since.

nancy · Post Post #667 (isolation #87) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:41 am

In post 649, Rileycountant wrote:Hiraki: What it comes down to is that I simply don't believe nancy wrt her claims about the motivations/meaning behind some of the stuff she did, like switching from momo to Darklyn and back to momo. You say that shitposting is NAI, but my issue isn't shitposting - it's the fact that nancy hasn't been producing much content/trying to sort, and only shitposts. And then when I call her out on it, she tries to justify her shitposts as attempts to sort, which is pretty damn fake.

I actually resent this accusation. I'm fine with being characterized as anti-town, but I have explicity cut shitposting out of my play. I have 4 shitposts since this game started: 167, 187, 252, 402.

In post 654, JaeReed wrote:RC I can already tell you I want to replace out because you and Trans are just calling me shit without helping me when I keep asking for it. So if you're maf, just... idunno, keep doing whatever you're doing and don't try to help me when I ask for it I guess and you can get someone more likely to just follow you in the slot.

Possible to just ignore them?

In post 666, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like I know her play pretty decently and I see 0 reason to townread her.

BS.

nancy · Post Post #711 (isolation #88) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:31 pm

In post 669, Hiraki wrote:
In post 99, Transcend wrote:nancy's 10 was a bad reaction to my vote
WOW - I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. A REASON! GOOD THING WE'RE NOT ON PAGE 20!

It's actually not even that, because 10 wasn't a reaction to Transcend's vote. So he basically has nothing.

nancy · Post Post #712 (isolation #89) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:31 pm

In post 670, Darklyn wrote:VOTE: Grendel
nancy, I'll get off your back if you help me lynch this guy

Don't care if you're on my back.

nancy · Post Post #744 (isolation #90) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:21 pm

Jae why are you sheeping your 2nd SR and how is Fro99er your top TR?

nancy · Post Post #746 (isolation #91) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:29 pm

That's the town!Fro99er I know but I haven't seen his scum game so I guess I need to meta dive

nancy · Post Post #751 (isolation #92) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:11 pm

Yeah OK gg Fro99er is now also my top TR. Fro99er you need to work on your tonal business friend.

nancy · Post Post #752 (isolation #93) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:12 pm

/me hugs Aslan.

nancy · Post Post #755 (isolation #94) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:13 pm

Except that I think you're scum with Transcend, so no. You're both weird as fuck this game.

nancy · Post Post #757 (isolation #95) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:15 pm

The part where I don't want to help you with your bus.

nancy · Post Post #759 (isolation #96) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:16 pm

nancy · Post Post #761 (isolation #97) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:17 pm

Honestly I don't care if you bus your partner D1 you and Transcend both pushed as hard as fuck to get me quicklynched and you're scum for it.

nancy · Post Post #763 (isolation #98) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:20 pm

Correct Town response was "If I wanted you to be lynched you'd be lynched".

nancy · Post Post #769 (isolation #99) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:28 pm

Me, and the game's already solved so you can stop thinking about your wagon now.

nancy · Post Post #838 (isolation #100) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:47 pm

Hi Fro99er. My townlist is you, Jae, Rileycc, Darklyn, Transcend, Titus.

nancy · Post Post #839 (isolation #101) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:47 pm

Oh and Crayons.

nancy · Post Post #840 (isolation #102) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:48 pm

Hmm wait that's too many people my reads might be fucked.

Either way I want to lynch momo.

nancy · Post Post #841 (isolation #103) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:48 pm

Oh I guess I could see {Grendel, momo, Hiraki}.

nancy · Post Post #844 (isolation #104) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:49 pm

Basically you Jae and Transcend are locktown though.

nancy · Post Post #850 (isolation #105) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:52 pm

Just trust me on Transcend.

nancy · Post Post #851 (isolation #106) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:53 pm

In post 849, Fro99er wrote:Jae.

Autocorrect lol

Even funnier it autocorrected to Jar after last game :p

LOL

nancy · Post Post #853 (isolation #107) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:54 pm

In post 845, Grendel wrote:I still think Momo's town.

Why is momo town?

nancy · Post Post #855 (isolation #108) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:55 pm

In post 852, Fro99er wrote:I hereby trust you on transcend

xP

pedit link me to the case?

nancy · Post Post #871 (isolation #109) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:17 pm

I think your case on Darklyn is mostly tinfoil and personality-based, sorry Grendel.

nancy · Post Post #875 (isolation #110) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:21 pm

You have me as need-to-be-sorted but you're trusting my townlock of Transcend?

nancy · Post Post #880 (isolation #111) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:27 pm

Lowercase n. No rxn here.

nancy · Post Post #884 (isolation #112) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:30 pm

Let's start up a wagon.

VOTE: momo

nancy · Post Post #887 (isolation #113) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:32 pm

He's doing things already though, momo isn't.

nancy · Post Post #908 (isolation #114) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:49 pm

In post 892, Fro99er wrote:
In post 887, nancy wrote:He's doing things already though, momo isn't.
He's doing scum things though

Right. So let's make momo do scum things.

nancy · Post Post #918 (isolation #115) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:00 pm

In post 910, Grendel wrote:I think I'd better chill out for tonight. Its getting late, and I don't want to lose sleep for something when I don't feel valued

Pre-edit

Dark, I'm town reading both mom and hirki

I value you Grendel, and I want you to keep producing content, because if my read on you is wrong then that's the only way it's going to change.

nancy · Post Post #919 (isolation #116) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:00 pm

But yeah, don't lose sleep just for mafia!

nancy · Post Post #920 (isolation #117) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:01 pm

In post 915, Fro99er wrote:Let's not flashlynch momo plz

2 votes

And if you didn't get the vibes from my posts, the intent is clearly for pressure not to autolynch.

nancy · Post Post #985 (isolation #118) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:25 pm

Uhhhh I think Titus is scum..

VOTE: Titus

nancy · Post Post #987 (isolation #119) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:44 pm

No one did except Jae I think?

nancy · Post Post #992 (isolation #120) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:55 pm

Nah Grendel is Town.

He's weird and somewhat scummy but he's Town.

Transcend/RC and I were all faking scumreads on each other to try and keep each other alive but I guess people just NK RC because RC.

nancy · Post Post #996 (isolation #121) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:10 pm

In post 994, JaeReed wrote:lol nancy no one would bother to fake a scumread on you to keep you alive

Thanks. The idea is actually that you all fight each other to try and trick scum into thinking that you're viable mislynches. Granted, RC is never actually a viable mislynch, so whatever.

nancy · Post Post #997 (isolation #122) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:13 pm

Well, I shouldn't say never. Muahaha.

nancy · Post Post #999 (isolation #123) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:15 pm

Are you a McMenno alt?

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:16 pm

Well, he doesn't play shit, just cruisey.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:32 pm

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:32 pm

Stop derping around Transcend.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:39 pm

Your TR on my slot disappeared pretty fast and without warning, Jae. What gives?

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:39 pm

Upset that I voted Titus?

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:41 pm

You're in a losing game, Jae.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:42 pm

You're good at obvtowning but you don't bus. That's your weakness. And your TR on TB was too obvious when the slot was too scummy.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:43 pm

Tell me, did you get me to dive House of Harmony specifically because you knew Fro99er was tonally different that game, or do you just genuinely think Fro99er is Town this game?

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:44 pm

Your vote would be fairly indicative of your opinion in that regard, you know.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:44 pm

Come on, give me the best you got. I want to go head to head with scum!Jae. I'm not worth NKing over RC? No one would SR me to keep me alive? I bet you could just roll over me then.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:48 pm

Wasn't a strong read, huh?

In post 928, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: momo

L2. Come talk I guess. I'm pretty much wanting to proxy my vote to mmmmm... idunno, Froggy and nancy can fight for my love. Trans is welcome to override and demand the sheep.

Preferred lynch is Grendel btw.

In post 1004, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: nancy

Explain the discrepancy.

You were hard defending me Day 1. You say coming into Day 2 that I can compete for your love with Fro99er, who is your top TR. What gives?

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:54 pm

Hi Riley. Titus and JaeReed are scum. Who do you think the third is?

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:56 pm

I realized the error of my ways. Your scumhunting was a little off, I thought it was fake scum trying to hunt, but I think you just had a bad start to the game.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:04 pm

Jae is scum because they were TRing TB despite him being scummy and as soon as I voted Titus they became hostile to my slot. Go look at the sequence and notice how they're treating me like a TR until I vote Titus, then they immediately vote Grendel and from that point they began treating me like an enemy. Then they vote me. There's no progression there.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:07 pm

You voted a weak TR? Over Grendel who you've been pushing as scum? Why?

Also why did the TR go from competing with your top TR to being weak?

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:14 pm

Why does the bolded ping you? You know very well that I have a history of WIFOMing my reads.

If you knew RC you'd know that's exactly the kind of behavior he's capable of faking. I'm pretty sure his entire Day 1 was designed to appear to be scummy so as to try and avoid a NK.

Your scumread of me pre-existed me ever displaying a scumread towards you. What happened in the 60-odd posts between me competing as your top TR to being a weak scumread? I don't think anyone is going to believe that it's because I WIFOMed my reads to try and save two people from a NK.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:22 pm

He's Town.

nancy · Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:30 pm

Short answer? Because Jae has been pushing him as scum.

Not short answer? His thought processes are genuine, if not exactly ones I'd follow and agree with, he's picking on things other people aren't in a meaningful way, rather than just arbitrarily picking on things in order to seem to be busy, he's trying to work with other people and collaborate, he's pushing his ideas actively, he's questioning and checking himself and changing opinions where he finds something at fault, and his interactions with wagons have been good. Some of his content has been iffy, but it mostly just looks like he hasn't been able to get a real feel for the game yet.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:33 am

In post 1032, JaeReed wrote:
In post 1031, nancy wrote:he's questioning and checking himself and changing opinions where he finds something at fault,
Grendel still srs me and dark after hap flipped town, which is where he had me/dark/hap.

This is provably false even at a glance of nancy's bs spout.

So my read on Grendel is moot because he didn't change his SRs?

How about this, we flip Grendel and if it's scum then we're both conf!town because neither of us bus. If it's Town then your scumlordiness is exposed in all its glory. I'm not going to believe you're Town in any other scenario after you flipped your read on me for bullshit reasons when I started trying to lynch Titus.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:14 am

In post 1036, Rileycountant wrote:What the fuck sort of thought process as this

Who works with their scumread to lynch their townread to confirm the scumminess of their scumread

One who isn't in conf!bias oblivion.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:16 am

In post 1038, Rileycountant wrote:Yeah nancy is defo scum here VOTE: nancy

The BS about making up scumreads on each other is more of the stuff I was talking about - making up shit after the fact to justify things.

Changes wagon, gets accused of pushing counterwagon -> it was a reaction test to get a response from Darklyn!
Says spamposting nonsense and gets called out on it -> don't worry everyone it was me expressing my reads and trying to gamesolve in the most opague manner possible!
Person scumreading her gets NKed -> we were actually making up scumreads on each other! Don't worry about this!

How exactly did you know that the plan was to make up scumreads on each other? You can't be masons with both RC
and
Transcend, and I'm not going to buy it if you tell me you looked into his eyes, gave him a slow wink and the two of you telepathically discerned each other's plan.

Bad scumhunting. I didn't *know*, but it was pretty fucking obvious. I know both those players like the back of my hand. RC was blatantly Town and I know he doesn't scumread my Day 1 play.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:20 am

In post 1040, Rileycountant wrote:+ in each of those cases of making up shit, nancy immediately turns around and scumreads the first person to not believe her(Riley, Transcend, JaeReed)

Lol?

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:22 am

In post 1037, JaeReed wrote:+1

Esp after I just said I don't think nancy and Grendel are scumbuds and I'm scumreading nancy.... so that means I think Grendel will most likely flip town.

10/10 preflips.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:36 am

I'm honestly not even going to fight this push regardless of how shit it is because my flip kills 2 out 3 scum.

The issue I have you Accountant is that you're too sure of yourself. You don't stop to re-examine your reasoning and find where there may be flaws. You don't stop to check that you might be looking in all the wrong places for all the wrong things, you just conjure up a scenario for yourself where X is scum and make the pieces fit. It's bad scumhunting and your reads will always be flawed as long as you continue to base them on rhetoric and posture rather than on actually assuming the perspective of the individual you're hunting.

Case in point: Tell me why scum!me would post 1035. What is scum!me trying to gain from this? I have town!Jae trapped in contradictions and I offer them a way out because ______?

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:27 am

In post 1049, Rileycountant wrote:
In post 1047, nancy wrote:Case in point: Tell me why scum!me would post 1035. What is scum!me trying to gain from this?
1035 is textbook lining up lynches. You're saying that if Grendel flips town, Jae is scum, which means that what you're trying to do is to arrange it so we lynch Grendel, then surprise surprise she flips town, and then you springboard off of that to get a second mislynch.

Of course, this doesn't work if you lynch Jae first, which was why you prefer to lynch Grendel first to line it up - when town!nancy would, duhhh, prefer to lynch her strong scumread over her townread.

You're forgetting the world where town!Nancy doesn't want to conf!bias the fuck out of her read and is willing to consider a universe where Jae might actually be Town.

It isn't textbook lining up lynches. You're again conjuring up an imaginary situation X and fitting the pieces. If I am scum, I am locked in a battle to the death with Jae. I am going to shove every damned inconsistency and error in their play I can find down their throat and everybody's throat and powerlynch the fuck out of them. I'm not going to waffle on my read and consider a universe where they might be Town when I am already not widely townread in this game and am sitting on a precarious position powerlynching an obvtown as it is.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:29 am

In post 1050, Rileycountant wrote:Like it's funny you bring up 1035 because the nonsensical lynch order you advocate there is pretty much a scumslip.

You're going to need to elaborate. Reasoning. Without reasoning people have no way of following your thought processes and if you are wrong somewhere no one, not even yourself, will be able to point out to you where you are wrong.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:52 am

In post 1053, Rileycountant wrote:town!nancy who doesn't want to confbias her read does so by re-evalling Jae.
Not by lynching someone she thinks is town.
"I am afraid of accidentally lynching town that I think is scum, so I am going to... purposely lynch town I think is town". That is absurd logic used to rationalize your scummy push, the exact same way you've been rationalizing everything else you do this game.

And yes, I agree, if you're scum you'll do anything you can to murder Jae. Like I said, this is exactly what you're doing. You've set up a fake way to "confirm" Jae as a scumlord (of course the part about how a Grendel townflip makes Jae scum is conveniently skipped over) in order to get them lynched. It's even better than just lynching them on the spot, because then you get a free NK and a mislynch on Grendel to go with it.

You can call this confbiasing all you want. I call it calling out your scummy bullshit once and for all. You aren't going to wriggle out of this one like you did D1.

What you're missing here is that in my mind I've already "confirmed" Jae as a scumlord by their behavior towards my slot and Titus's slot. Grendel is only Town because Jae doesn't bus and is pushing him. You're assuming that I'm scum in all of this. You can't see outside of that. I'm considering a world where my read on Jae is wrong and their behavior, while objectively nonsense, is somehow explainable. In that world, Grendel is very likely scum. Look at my stances earlier in the Day for proof. Grendel is a scumread right up until I start reading Titus as scum and the sequence with Jae happens. I have nothing to lose by checking my conf!bias.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:53 am

In post 1060, Fro99er wrote:Nice bus

Momo is Town.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:54 am

In post 1058, Fro99er wrote:These just feel like run of the mill, canned response reasons rather than actual reasons that I think you believe.

Because they are.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:55 am

In post 1075, Titus wrote:
In post 1074, Darklyn wrote:well there are two players but they seem a bit too obvious
?

There's a hidden dynamic that's confusing here.

VOTE: Grendel

There surely is.

VOTE: Grendel

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:34 am

I don't bus.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:50 am

So I groked the gamestate and unless my reads are way off or I'm messing up the PoE the scumteam is either A. {Jae, Titus, GC}, B. {Jae, Titus, momo}, or C. {Grendel, GC, Hiraki}. Go ahead and mislynch me (Jae jump off my wagon before it goes through you know why) and lynch Grendel tomorrow.

A. and B. because GC and momo are the only viable third partners to {Jae, Titus} because Fro99er is obvtown, Rileycc is Town and also just no way a partner, Darklyn is Town, and I can't see scum!Jae and scum!Hiraki hard defending me together Day 1. momo because they are null for Jae and rotating a lynchbait Day 1 scumread up to null is risky but by no means out of the question. GC because lurksack, missing from Jae's second readslist but townlean in the first.

C. because Grendel scum, GC lurksack, Hiraki defending me Day 1 while posturing on the hammer and generally none of them doing anything all game wrt hunting scum.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:57 am

It's true of my meta. If you think I'm scum saying I'm bussing doesn't make sense. If I were scum I wouldn't be bussing because I don't bus.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:08 pm

In post 1096, JaeReed wrote:nancy if you're town this game you're trash tier.

Thx babe you sure have a way with words

@Transcend if I'm scum Grendel is Town or I'm just distancing. I don't bus.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:25 pm

Remember what smith says? A good Town pushes each other and checks each other to ensure that they aren't buying into a false narrative of their own making. This is lacking from you lot. I've done my best to grok this with as little bias possible. I've asked you to mislynch me so that you can all course-correct. If you don't want to end the day early that's fine, but looking for my partners will lead you into circles because I have none. I believe I am right on C. Jae, please do not be on my wagon when it goes through. I am willing to self if you can't get enough votes without it.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:02 pm

If I'm wrong about one of my TRs it's probably Darklyn. If I'm wrong about one of my SRs it's probably Hiraki.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:03 pm

If I'm wrong about one of my TRs it's probably Darklyn. If I'm wrong about one of my SRs it's probably Hiraki.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:08 pm

Riley's case on me is comprehensively bad scumhunting in a tunnel.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:21 pm

Town bad unless they have me and everyone here completely fooled.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:27 pm

Like my TRs are pretty strong. Assuming I'm not wrong on them the PoE right now is just brutal.

Locktown: Fro99er, Jae, Rileycc, Titus, Transcend

Probtown: Darklyn, momo

Scum: GC, Grendel, Hiraki

There just isn't room to move.

Effectively imo if Grendel isn't scum then the team is very likely A or B. Darklyn could be another option as a 3rd to Jae/Titus because I just don't even know why I'm even TRing him anymore. I don't see scum in any other slots right now. That's my PoE.

As for anyone saying I'm lying about my meta, that's just dumb. Jae knows I don't bus and should have confirmed as much by now.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:31 pm

Fro99er read my posts.... This has been explained.

Go look at the sequence back ages ago when I first started thinking Titus might be scum. My ISO has all of the explanations of my thought processes. If you need anything more after that feel free to ask.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:34 pm

In post 1081, nancy wrote:
In post 1053, Rileycountant wrote:town!nancy who doesn't want to confbias her read does so by re-evalling Jae.
Not by lynching someone she thinks is town.
"I am afraid of accidentally lynching town that I think is scum, so I am going to... purposely lynch town I think is town". That is absurd logic used to rationalize your scummy push, the exact same way you've been rationalizing everything else you do this game.

And yes, I agree, if you're scum you'll do anything you can to murder Jae. Like I said, this is exactly what you're doing. You've set up a fake way to "confirm" Jae as a scumlord (of course the part about how a Grendel townflip makes Jae scum is conveniently skipped over) in order to get them lynched. It's even better than just lynching them on the spot, because then you get a free NK and a mislynch on Grendel to go with it.

You can call this confbiasing all you want. I call it calling out your scummy bullshit once and for all. You aren't going to wriggle out of this one like you did D1.
What you're missing here is that in my mind I've already "confirmed" Jae as a scumlord by their behavior towards my slot and Titus's slot. Grendel is only Town because Jae doesn't bus and is pushing him. You're assuming that I'm scum in all of this. You can't see outside of that. I'm considering a world where my read on Jae is wrong and their behavior, while objectively nonsense, is somehow explainable. In that world, Grendel is very likely scum. Look at my stances earlier in the Day for proof. Grendel is a scumread right up until I start reading Titus as scum and the sequence with Jae happens. I have nothing to lose by checking my conf!bias.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:38 pm

Essentially why I'm being scumread is for operating without (significant) bias and seriously considering that my reads may be wrong and if they are what my reads should be in that case. This is the same kind of thing that people became paranoid about me for in 1875. My read on you flipped according to whether or not I thought your thing with JJD was scum theater or not.

pedit then I very strongly believe that all 3 scum are in my scumreads and probtowns

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:41 pm

The two most likely teams in my mind are {GC, Grendel, Hiraki} and {Darklyn, GC, Grendel}.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:42 pm

In post 1158, nancy wrote:Like my TRs are pretty strong. Assuming I'm not wrong on them the PoE right now is just brutal.

Locktown: Fro99er, Jae, Rileycc, Titus, Transcend

Probtown: Darklyn, momo

Scum: GC, Grendel, Hiraki

There just isn't room to move.

Effectively imo if Grendel isn't scum then the team is very likely A or B. Darklyn could be another option as a 3rd to Jae/Titus because I just don't even know why I'm even TRing him anymore. I don't see scum in any other slots right now. That's my PoE.

As for anyone saying I'm lying about my meta, that's just dumb. Jae knows I don't bus and should have confirmed as much by now.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:44 pm

Because Darklyn is most likely Town that I'm wrong on.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:45 pm

You keep asking questions that are answered in my ISO

In post 1147, nancy wrote:If I'm wrong about one of my TRs it's probably Darklyn. If I'm wrong about one of my SRs it's probably Hiraki.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:48 pm

Because I'm scumreading Grendel, I'm scumreading GC, and if I assume that I'm wrong on Hiraki and I have to pick between Darklyn and momo I'd pick Darklyn....

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:50 pm

Which part? Run me through your thought process and tell me where it runs to a jarring halt so I can help you.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:53 pm

Because literally everything you've been doing today has been extremely Town motivated. I've seen your Town game first hand, and I've seen your scum game, and they're very different.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:57 pm

House of Harmony.

Well I don't know why it's not possible but if it isn't then obviously I would pick momo. This is a simple matter of preference.

momo
Darklyn
Hiraki
GC
Grendel

If Hiraki is taken out then Darklyn drops down 1 spot. If Darklyn is taken out then momo drops down 1 spot. If momo is taken out then the weakest of my TRs drops in.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:57 pm

Wait so Transcend isn't masons with RC?

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:59 pm

Eh I've been operating off poor assumptions clearly.

I thought Titus was masons with Jae and RC was masons with Transcend.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:02 pm

UNVOTE:

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:03 pm

Grendel is still scum.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:37 pm

In post 1207, Darklyn wrote:nancy's reads change in every vote lmao

My reads have changed twice all Day. What you're seeing is called PoE analysis, not changing reads.

In post 1209, JaeReed wrote:
In post 1193, nancy wrote:I thought Titus was masons with Jae and RC was masons with Transcend.
What would have helped there is asking me what my read on Titus was before jumping down my throat when I voted you.

But you didn't, which isn't acting without bias like you claim to have been doing.
UNVOTE:

Didn't say I was acting without bias at that point. You swinging your read on me like that caught me totally off-guard, which really did not help. I'm not acting completely with bias now either. But at the point where I made that point about lynching Grendel, that's where I started doing my best to eliminate bias. It would be nice if you could tell Fro99er I don't bus so that when we lynch Grendel he drops his SR.

pedit Grendel posted that, not GC, I think.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:39 pm

In post 1217, Fro99er wrote:I'd still prefer one more unvote of the nancy wagon. If somehow she's scum and all three scum are off her wagon they can quick hammer knowing I've made a mason claim. Granted, 3 quick vote is a groupscum claim

Yeah, no one is going to be blitzing me.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:01 pm

You TR Grendel and SR me. This game is a joke.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:44 pm

In post 1235, Darklyn wrote:
In post 1232, nancy wrote:You TR Grendel and SR me. This game is a joke.
you SR a a team of me and Grendel, you don't have any reads and are just throwing shade on anyone you think you can get a mislynch on

Please don't misrep. I read you as probtown and you being weaker than my other Towns means that when going through PoE I will of course consider a scumteam containing you.

In post 1236, Rileycountant wrote:hold the phone hold the phone

Can someone sit down, look me in the eye and tell me straight why grendel is scum? like, pretend I know nothing. I am a noob, first mafia game, just replaced in. Why is Grendel scum?

He's playing with an agenda. Beyond that I know I won't be able to explain it to you in terms you understand and you won't really care what I have to say anyway, but essentially you're TRing him for the same reason you're SRing me: appearances. His ISO consists of a narrative that reads "I am Town", and yet he has not done anything that would genuinely, in a non-superficial way, come from Town, namely gamesolving and hunting.

nancy · Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:47 pm

In post 1238, nancy wrote:Please don't misrep. I read you as probtown and you being weaker than my other Towns means that when going through PoE I will of course consider a scumteam containing you.

And in case you're actually not aware of what PoE is, I certainly went through every slot in the game and considered them as scum. That's what PoE is. I discarded the majority of them as even close to reasonable candidates except if certain conditions are met. That's why there are multiple PoEs: one for each different set of conditions.

nancy · Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:57 am

In post 1242, momo wrote:Damn it you guys. Unless someone claims masons with nancy she is today's lynch.

What have you done all game, exactly?

nancy · Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:54 am

I'm going to sleep soon, do you want me to vote momo before then?

nancy · Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:07 am

Thanks for the gesture Accountant.

nancy · Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:08 am

Darklyn is apparently impossible to be scum according to Fro99er.

nancy · Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:34 am

In post 1264, Hiraki wrote:@nancy: if u wanna stop being such a fuccboi and keep calling me scum and keep making frogger and all think you're town then maybe you should stop playing these stupid process of elimination games

PoE is how I gamesolve, sorry.

nancy · Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:37 am

In post 1264, Hiraki wrote:Momo is VI.

Are you familiar with momo's scumgame?

nancy · Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:02 pm

In post 1270, Hiraki wrote:
In post 1268, nancy wrote:
In post 1264, Hiraki wrote:Momo is VI.
Are you familiar with momo's scumgame?
No - that might change my opinion. Any links?

I'm only passingly familiar with his scumgame, I was just curious if you were.

In post 1270, Hiraki wrote:PoE is quite alright in late-game and end-game but becomes pretty dull and not very reliable in the early game.

It's a tool that becomes increasingly useful the more information you have, lack of information is no reason to not at least prod at it.

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:31 am

OH LOOK EVERYONE IS NOW CONSIDERING THE POE SCUMREADS THAT TRASHTIER NANCY CAME UP WITH WHILE MISINFORMED AND BEING FUCKING RUN OVER FOR NO REASON

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:34 am

In post 1416, Grendel wrote:I'm not leaving forever. I need to prioritize the rest of this semester of college. This has been the busiest I think I've ever been, and mafia just doesn't fit into my life like it would've several months to a year ago.

I'll be back for a few games in the summer time. Anyways tho, thanks for the concern.

<3

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:37 am

So it's probably Grendel, Hiraki, Rileycc then.

With GC and momo as tertiary candidates.

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:39 am

GC and Rileycc are unlikely to be scumpartners.

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:41 am

I don't get what the fuck Transcend is doing this game. He's literally just parroting Rileycc and has been since the start of the game.

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:48 am

momo and Hiraki seem somewhat unlikely and momo and Rileycc seem unlikely unless momo is trying to be like Vedith or something, but momo still looks likely with Grendel and GC as already stated.

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:54 am

Actually it's probably just Grendel, momo, Hiraki based on page 25.

Cool.

Tell me where to vote and whatever Mr Town Leader Dude Made of Green.

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:07 am

In post 1308, Rileycountant wrote:I just can't get over how deceptive and full of shit nancy is

Neither can I tbh.

nancy · Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:20 am

In post 1035, nancy wrote:How about this, we flip Grendel and if it's scum then we're both conf!town because neither of us bus. If it's Town then your scumlordiness is exposed in all its glory. I'm not going to believe you're Town in any other scenario after you flipped your read on me for bullshit reasons when I started trying to lynch Titus.

Textbook lining up lynches, btw.