world.createNew(Utopia everHope); - EPILOGUE (GAME OVER!)

[MariaR]

VOTE: MariaF

E-Eeek! I didn't know I upset you in some way i-is there anyway I can make you feel better?

snickers

just you wait fool...

[MariaR]

I have like 5 people I want to link too I WANT FRIENDS

Vifam <3

[MariaR]

I have like 5 people I want to link too I WANT FRIENDS

Vifam <3

too bad we have to lynch you before that happens

B-but why can't we be friends I like both of you so so much ^_^

I have like 5 people I want to link too I WANT FRIENDS

Vifam <3

Already buddying me winkies winkies i see, if you wanted my snapchat you just had to ask

JOEY I WILL FUCKING STAB YOU x)

[MariaR]

What is this town you speak of?

[MariaR]

DEAR LORD MAKE IT IN ONE POST

[MariaR]

DEAR GOD GET ME OUT OF THIS GAME

[MariaR]

VOTE: Radiant

[MariaR]

Ay Gerry we linking up right

[MariaR]

Ay Gerry we linking up right

CAN U AT LEAST TAKE ME OUT TO DINNER FIRST. WTF.

Wasn't watching anime enough

[MariaR]

Ay Gerry we linking up right

CAN U AT LEAST TAKE ME OUT TO DINNER FIRST. WTF.

Wasn't watching anime enough

TRUE. OK, I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND LINKS. BUT ONCE I DO, I'LL BE SURE TO LET YOU KNOW

Free neighborhood

VOTE: Radiant

Do you really want to face my unfettered wrath this early in the game?

Y-you wouldn't hurt m-me would you?
Pedit: Coke > Pepsi

[MariaR]

MARIA I WILL BREAK YOUR SPIRIT AND LEAVE YOUR BODY A SMOLDERING HUSK IF YOU DON'T UNVOTE US RIGHT NOW

You can't break something I don't have but please entertain me we know what happened the last time I faced off against at least one of you ahaAHAHAHAHA and the other well...You seem like an easy win

[MariaR]

Random I know a lot of these people I don't need to fit in I just gotta be me

[MariaR]

maria's persona feels overblown here tho

No shit lol I'm hardcore overdoing it for reason.

[MariaR]

One game I'ma be able to filter all game and I'll be tr for it.
Pedit: That bus was amazing and I'd do it again in a heartbeat but stop being a bully
Pedit2: Cloud lasttime you said anything like that you were mafia

[MariaR]

I can't do that because I want you to feel as awful as you can I can ate you into not lynching me

[MariaR]

I play more as scum as town then I do as scum and it's amazing

[MariaR]

scount you love me shush
*tries to hug the mod*

[MariaR]

Aw it's not as bad as the last one Scout.



Yet.

If only you knew

[MariaR]

Do you really scumread me?

[MariaR]

I really don't think you would if you were town :/

[MariaR]

Since were both up let's talk. Why do you sr me? My persona is a joke you know this it can't be JUST that.
Pedit: You've seen my town play RC I did the same exact thing before as scum and town yes but for a sr it's like??

[MariaR]

Giga is the one who should know my filler is NAI more then you but I still expect you to null it so no issue. I assume Giga didn't state why?

[MariaR]

That does make sense but trying to pressure me over others I think I'm one of the worst targets to try it on since as scum I react to pressure very well it's an easy thing for me to do I get the logic I just think it's eh

[MariaR]

Also how dare you find my rp post scummy

[MariaR]

Pyp it was planned for me to go down so I didn't try very hard Penguin...okay fair.
I dislike randon's tone but that's prob very much bias so no I don't rly have any sr's

[MariaR]

maria did u fall asleep

rip in pieces

It was a mistake to get myself some warm milk...

[MariaR]

I believe that this is nothing to do with your use of filler? I see where they're coming from at any rate but I'll leave it to them to explain that read how they want to.

As for your use of filler I don't town or scumread filler or anything. I town or scumread things based on how you do it.
Making reads based on just oh someone did filler that's a scum/town tell is lazy and bad thinking fmpov.

Granted, I think that you do have a specific tendency that's alignment indicative in your use of filler but I'm not about to tell you.
I told FA about her 'GET OUT OF HERE' tell and regretted it the rest of the life. She never really beat me as scum after that anyway though but still.
GBT's read on you is not something I want to talk about until she's ready to.
And for my part I townread the shit out of you in Laundry mafia so I don't think you should be worried about me ending up misreading you.
But that's contingent on how you react and if you don't feel legitimately threatened then it kills somewhat of the purpose of this exercise. Which is bad.
Yeah so even talking about this whole setup was bad but I don't like and am not good at not talking to people who reach out to be talked to.
Terrible at dealing with AtE in general tbh. I can read a few people's once I get to know them but I usually have to just close myself off to it.
Especially dealing with FA style AtE where people get upset because they're being pushed on and it's just ugh and I can't really play the game anymore.

Totally hypocritical in a sense because I used to do a fuckton of that as scum but I guess I've moved away from ruining games for wins so that's good?
Reacting well to pressure is something that you may believe that you do well but I doubt it will work so well against me
Often I get hairpin triggered by stuff that other people have never seen people get triggered over.
Ultimately though I do end up missing some stuff that other people do though so, tradeoff?
But I think that my way is the right way.
Also yeah I'm probably going to do zero direct comparisons to PYP because when you're being bussed you're obviously going to play different than you would.
Despite what I've said above I'm actually starting to read you as scum based on your reaction here so I'm now in support of the wagon for my part.
Of course if you do shit I townread that can change but I'm just telling you.
Usually my reads are very fluctuate-y in the early stages of the game because of the way I play games then they get sorta locked in later so dw if you're town.
RageSimoTech destroyer on the other side you should be very scared

Okay thank you for this it was detailed well thoughout and I can understand where you're coming from and what you're trying to do I know I myself am seen as someone who is a easy ML for town and then what ends up happening if I live long enough people use the excuse of "Oh Maria is an easy ML as town so she must be scum who survived" It's a really shitty meta thing but that's not really important here I'm just doing filler because I'm with my friends having fun relaxing in a game so it's hard for me to sometimes understand how people can scumread me based on that I have a hard time not sring people I think should know when it's my town game but Ironically I tell people to not meta me I'm very hypocritical I play really well as scum on this site and awful as town but on my home site I do awful as scum and do well as town and I find that weird cause I don't think I play much dif between this site and my other site (you can ask Gerry or Cloud maybe they can tell) So it's hard to find a balance based on my play. I think this turned into a mini rant from me instead of trying to tell you why I'm not scum so I'll end it here

[MariaR]

maria did u fall asleep

rip in pieces

It was a mistake to get myself some warm milk...

REALLY JOEY REALLY (Also can you answer my question in my mini rant I wanna know what you think since I can't rly answer it myself due to bias)

[MariaR]

HOW DO PEOPLE FIND ROLEPLAYING SCUMMY ;~:
That's the real scummy moment here

[MariaR]

Gerry answer da question

[MariaR]

Look at my rant post!

[MariaR]

okie dokie ty

[MariaR]

He better tr me if he know's what's good for him (

[MariaR]

He's safe for now....

[MariaR]

If my memory serves he normally acts normaler

Its because of my epicmefia friends <3

*hug*

[MariaR]

hug block!

[MariaR]

Blah blah you wouldn't lynch me this easy if I was scum blah blah self meta

[MariaR]

Holy shit I'm at L-3... really? >.> I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA JUST BE A JOKE

[MariaR]

You're gonna sr anything I say at this point Radiant so please shush thank you so much and you're clearly quick lynching look at my wagon I can claim innocent child and you'd call it fake lol

[MariaR]

Please show me a scum game where I've been lynch D1: Answer is never cause it would never happen I've been lynched as town so many times cause scum know I'M AN EASY ML

[MariaR]

Please don't say things you don't really mean.. You're either scum or bias because of my scum game and it's really fucking annoying that I have towny reactions but people go like "Oh that was Towny but it's Maria so it can be scum"
Pedit: Fuck off

[MariaR]

Kindly go away please before you make me more upset then I already am.

[MariaR]

My reaction is fucking town because I have a town rtole pm idk what you want me to say if I was scum there would be a counter wagon starting up on myu ass this wagon was a joke at firtst and now it became real I am giving you solid facts here can some of them be wifom sure but using that as an excuse is bs and you should look at it that way you are confrim biasing me and it pisses me off if you had a legit reason to sr me not because you found MY ROLEPLAY POST SCUMMY I would be perfectly fine with that but you don't

[MariaR]

AND FTR I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOUR REACTIONS ARE TOWNY AT ALL BECAUSE I AM THE GOD OF ATE AND I LEARNED TO FIGHT ATE FROM LITTLE MISS THREATEN SUICIDE WHEN YOU GET SCUMREAD.

YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE GANDALF THE GREY

I hate getting read for my ate I really do but I still use it because it's just me as a person

[MariaR]

I AM TOWN HOLY SHIT

[MariaR]

I've typed subbing out 4 times and backspaced I kid you not I hate this rn so I'ma just go do something else yall hf

[MariaR]

Seems like my wagon went away over night for some reason

[MariaR]

Okay clum lets look at from my POV were 15 pages in and I'm at what L-2 L-3 in a game where I have a few people who should be able to read me and I'm gonna sr'd as a possible ML on Day 1 again? Yeah that makes me just a little bit pissy my AtE is NAI but yeah.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Pine

Pine claimed Pinecone. Please confirm.

[MariaR]

If I had any I'd be pushing them or asking them questions

[MariaR]

I think if I was scum I would've taken ths game much more differently given the mechs I don't really know what I would do but I feel like it wouldn't be this I feel like my town game is easy to see from my scum game I feel if I get more pages reads will come to me I've got all my anger out (I think) so I'm just waiting for stuff to happen at this point

[MariaR]

In hoods no one can hear you scream...

[MariaR]

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW UPSETTING IT WAS TO BE IN A HOOD WITH 4 MAFIA AND YOURSELF

[MariaR]

Why do you not like my ate mr Plum (can I call you Mr Plum?)

[MariaR]

I was semi offended that people who I thought could tr me were votinng me but yeah I was most likely overreacting

[MariaR]

It seems over the top and like scum panicking from a fast wagon in the first 15 pages of Day 1.

maria does a lot of weird shit deliberately as town which makes her a tough read imo

it's moments like this i wish i had kraska :/

also clumsy that's exactly why i sr pepsicoke - it's weirder to overreact to a wagon you're on than it is to overreact to your own wagon

Examples?

[MariaR]

mariar, do you think radiabadour is a mefia ?

No they're my only tr

[MariaR]

pretty much all RT's "pushes" look like scum laying seeds of suspicion (viability for later suspicion having if a wagon seems doable for them) and testing the waters to see who might pick up traction but trying to look like town doing helpful hunting as to not look suspicious in doing it *shrug*

I hear you leon, I disagree

CK, even if you HAD played enough games with me to pretend to be able to say you know what looks towny in me, it'd still be pretending because forserious, you can't read me off of this few posts even if you do have lot of familiarity with me! ugh, you get a lot of pings for your statements!

and pretty much all of the following posts too

I NEED AIR THIS IS SO GOOD LMFAO

[MariaR]

VOTE: Cloud
I'm not liking you so far cloud

[MariaR]

@mariar why me

Why do you think?

[MariaR]

are you annoyed that i end up buddying you everytime im mefia

ooooo bingo you get a gold star

[MariaR]

I have an 100% rate reading Maria including in past games and have only missed Alisae once in their first game with me. You don't get an exclusive say.
If you want people to take you seriously enough to give you exclusive say about things then you need to earn it and that means being consistent about it.
If I hadn't been correct

every single time

I fake guiltied someone and lynched them with it then I would lose all my credibility in being able to claim them.

THat's the difference between us. I am not perfect and I don't claim to be. But I know my limitations and you clearly don't.

Hai <3

[MariaR]

Sorry I'm not looking for mason softs -_-

[MariaR]

VOTE: random
That is bullshit "I'm voting him because he's a dick"
BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
This is sscum I am not unvoting this lynch me or this

[MariaR]

I missed 4 pages...not reading it

[MariaR]

VOTE: Alisae hydra
Cloud is town

[MariaR]

your guys anger is an overreaction now shut up

[MariaR]

It's a neighborhood big woop Cloud is town I don't tr Alisae and I'll vote it and maybe clum *Shrug* but this has more voyes

[MariaR]

your guys anger is an overreaction now shut up

YOU KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH THAT I DONT OVERREACT. WHY CANT U EXPLAIN THE READ

Lie.

[MariaR]

It's a neighborhood big woop Cloud is town I don't tr Alisae and I'll vote it and maybe clum *Shrug* but this has more voyes

ALISAE IS LITERRALY, MOD CONFIRMED TOWN TO ME

You don't know what a neighborhood is do you.

[MariaR]

gerry could be scum too his reaction is so over the fucking top and he only reacts like a 12 year old as mafia lol

[MariaR]

Is this how I sound like? holy shit I am so sorry to anyone I ever ate'd in my life lol

[MariaR]

It's a neighborhood big woop Cloud is town I don't tr Alisae and I'll vote it and maybe clum *Shrug* but this has more voyes

ALISAE IS LITERRALY, MOD CONFIRMED TOWN TO ME

You don't know what a neighborhood is do you.

[MariaR]

gerry could be scum too his reaction is so over the fucking top and he only reacts like a 12 year old as mafia lol

1V1 ME THEN.

VOTE: MARIA

THIS IS ALSO FAKE META. IM GONNA CALL HER MARIATRUMP FOR HER FAKE NEWS

False you're gonna try and say you've never overreacted ever? Please pet that ego of yours more Gerry it's not fake you just don't like hearing the truth

MARIA JUST TRIED TO FAKE META ON ME. SHE WOULD ONLY DO THIS AS SCUM. SHE'S DONE THIS AS SCUM PREVIOUSLY.

Also false.

[MariaR]

Sub me out don't feel like being around pricks the whole game ty

[MariaR]

I'm not having fun I don't want to be here

[MariaR]

I understand why you would be hating this game with the way people have been acting around you but I will have a lot more fun if you stick around and I know GBT was looking forward to playing with you.

I do not want to be in a game that I joined because I was asked too I am not having fun with all this yelling I'd rather everyone calm down and talk and I know that isn't gonna happen I'm close to going into ate rage myself and I don't want to do that I rather sub out wth my pride then stay and lose it

[MariaR]

I'ma juist

V/LA 2 days

and get away from this

[MariaR]

Disagree with maria town. She'd be upset as town or maf in that situation. Clumsy or dreal should be the lynch today though

This is false and you know it I'll end my V/LA early to attack this. I would not get upset as scum if you insulted me that's a simple fact.

(If I get upset I'ma just walk away now)

I'm linking with Giga/RC btw

[MariaR]

Disagree with maria town. She'd be upset as town or maf in that situation. Clumsy or dreal should be the lynch today though

This is false and you know it I'll end my V/LA early to attack this. I would not get upset as scum if you insulted me that's a simple fact.

(If I get upset I'ma just walk away now)

I'm linking with Giga/RC btw

yes you would, i've seen it before.

oooo now who's bringing the fake meta
VOTE: Gerry

[MariaR]

not fake, ive seen you be upset with someone when you were mafia. it's NAI

We both say each others meta on each other is false I've seen you overreact as maf and you've seen me get angery as maf maybe we just forgot now you gonna stop stroking your ego or??

[MariaR]

VOTE: Clum
Just did a bit of a meta dive on Clum and this does not feel like town clum that I saw in other games

[MariaR]

Why am I obv town

[MariaR]

It's best to ignore gerry when he tries to say meta ___ when he's been proven wrong over and over just try and read me as you see me this game
Also "if" I flip mafia when he's called me scum all day. Could policy lynch gerry but he's prob VI and not scum

[MariaR]

Not ate lol

[MariaR]

for what reasons

[MariaR]

You're not pushing me very hard for me being your top sr

[MariaR]

You haven't stated any reason and you think me and clum are bussing why don't you push me or do something useful and explain the reasons why

[MariaR]

That's the first time you've ever said that but alright
@RC I think gerry is VI at the moment let's vote clum

[MariaR]

Cool day

[MariaR]

feels bad

[MariaR]

gerry link with me we don't even gotta talk mafia we can just post gifs B)

[MariaR]

[tab][/tab]

if you flipped town i'd link with you. sry

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO USE IT FOR GAME TALK WE CAN POST GIFS AND STUFF

[MariaR]

fuck
VOTE: Maria

[MariaR]

I was just checking in to complain about day not being over and apparently Maria accidentally legit scumclaimed. Sounds good to me.

VOTE: Maria

Hi Maria! Bye Maria.

UNVOTE:
PINE PLS CAN YOU NOT GET A JOKE X)

[MariaR]

Anyone who thinks that's a slip needs a mentor I just ignored what he was saying cause he can never tell when I'm town EVER I always need to do a shit ton of ate -_-

[MariaR]

Gerry do me a favor this will be the 3rd time in a row you can't read me the only time you ever read me right was the last day of a game where I town slipped and when I flip town you lose all right to say you can read me deal?

[MariaR]

I have given proof before so no it's not

[MariaR]

But do you agree to it?

[MariaR]

Laundry mafia was your fault tbh tho. You tr all the obvs mafia lol. I thought no way as town you could be that bad

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Yes but deal

all I needed to hear

[MariaR]

I didn't and I really really don't want you to be scum so I can rub it in your face when I flip town

[MariaR]

you're bias I expect any post I make for you to sr you so it's a waste of effort to talk to you sadly you're the only one here atm

[MariaR]

you're bias I expect any post I make for you to sr you so it's a waste of effort to talk to you sadly you're the only one here atm

not true. if you made a town post, i'd tr it

no you're going to bias sr w/e I post even if you don't mean it it's just something you do I know you well enough *shrug* you're hard to work with when your mind is set

[MariaR]

I don't even know who I'm voting if anyone
UNVOTE:

[MariaR]

VOTE: Clum

[MariaR]

VOTE: Clum

[MariaR]

Giga was voting Maria because she tends to vote with where town is going rather than to strictly follow her own reads. She thinks that Maria can be scum as opposed to having her as a strong SR

This is actually the most wrong statement I have EVER seen someone make about me

[MariaR]

Oh okay carry on.

[MariaR]

"Let's vote the person who wasn't on the obv town wagon"
oooooook

[MariaR]

I shotpost as town and scum give me something useful Math

[MariaR]

You're using Data of 2 games sweet jesus Math

[MariaR]

Fake gods game I shit post sigh

I'm taking a break from maria after this because I'm sick of telling people they can't meta me because it's never worked no one has ever been right and you're wronf here aswell

[MariaR]

Fake gods game I shit post sigh

I'm taking a break from maria after this because I'm sick of telling people they can't meta me because it's never worked no one has ever been right and you're wronf here aswell

I have been right on you (and tbh not much else) the past few games.

No one has been right on meta

[MariaR]

You were right because of my actions in that game with no meta see the dif

[MariaR]

Fine. I vote you for false claims of mind reading me and it is provable when I said you Town told on page three.

Fuck hammers.

VOTE: MariaR

She goes today.

Not mind reading, Facts you should know what those are.

[MariaR]

It is so much fucking bs that people think they can use mta they have no reason valid reasoning to sr people and when it's challenged they just vote and cover there ears like holy fuck people learn from your mistakes

[MariaR]

I haven't said one false thing in fact. You've just said meta lol. This is gonna turn into civ maf where no one has a reason to lynch me and it happens again calling it.

[MariaR]

I should get used to just getting ml'd as town and winning as scum *shrug*
VOTE: Maria
Will be back in the morning do as you wish.

[MariaR]

UNVOTE:
I'm a Doctor

[MariaR]

Dreal that logic doesn't make sense scum want to be towny and act like town if they don't have to stick out they won't causing a mess is more then likely to come from town then scum can it be scum sometimes? Of course but it's less likely.
Pedit: I self voted BECAUSE I'M PISSED THAT I ALWAYS GET LYNCHED AS TOWN SO I SHOULD JUST ACCEPT THE FUCKING FACT THAT I WILL ALWAYS BE ML'D AS TOWN

[MariaR]

My role shouldn't matter to any of you if you sr my slot you should vote me I would self vote as a cop if I felt like self voting

Gerry you self vote as pr's all the time YOU DID IN CIV MAFIA so idk why you're asking like it's impossible for me to self vote lol

[MariaR]

that's not a town movie, maria, that's a scum move
and those are scum words

you must die

You're one of those players who sees one way and if anyone acts out of that one way or you don't understand you call it scummy. It's why mafia leaves you alive for lylo it's why you stay alive all the time because your logic is more then half the time wrong.
I don't expect you to understand now but maybe one day you will

[MariaR]

My role shouldn't matter to any of you if you sr my slot you should vote me I would self vote as a cop if I felt like self voting

Gerry you self vote as pr's all the time YOU DID IN CIV MAFIA so idk why you're asking like it's impossible for me to self vote lol

AS

DOC?????????

THE ONE ROLE YOU LITERALLY CAN'T SELF.

Okay mr self vote as tracker and doesn't claim as COP XDDDDDDDD

[MariaR]

I self vote as town and scum it's NAI lol.

[MariaR]

I should've subbed out on day 1 but I had more respect for the mod then to sub out holy shit what a mistake this was

[MariaR]

that is all I have to say for the rest of the Day everything else will be prod-dodges and I'm not moving my vote

maria, learn to play if you do it as town, you shouldn't, it's that simple, k? learn to play better if you really do do that as town, please

This is the most ironic post you have made ever well done.

[MariaR]

I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

[MariaR]

I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

Vote Clumsy then.

I was voting clum before you all thought it was cool
VOTE: Clum

[MariaR]

I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

YOU DON'T MIND BEING LYNCHED AS THE FUCKING DOCTOR?!?!?!?!?!


BULL FUCKING SHIT, YOU EITHER SHOULD CARE, OR YOU SUCK AT THE GAME IN THIS ASPECT

EITHER WAY, LEARN BETTER, OR DIE, SCUM, K?

I ask you please don't talk to me and stop insulting me before I say something I regret

[MariaR]

I self voted because I didn't mind being lynched was my thinking last night that I'll be ml'd anyway so might as well get town to wake up so they can vote scum fucking clum but giving up isn't really my style

why would you be ok getting ml'd as DOC. i understand maybe another PR. but Doc is literally one of the most important roles. who were you on n1?

It doesn't matter who I was on n1 that's just getting into who I tr
My role doesn't matter people shouldn't unvote because I claimed fucking doctor you vote on reads not the role I self voted because I feel like the info people would've got from my lynch is much more important than one maybe doc save

[MariaR]

fuck, you suck at the game hard if you self-vote as town

but as doc, you're fucking abominably atrocious

DO YOU GET WHY YOU GET LEFT ALIVE IN LYLO ALL THE TIME? BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK YOU BLEW IT IN WITCH TRAILS AND YOU BLEW IT LAUNDRY YOUR WAY OF LOGIC IS SO FUCKING AWFUL THAT YOU CAN NOT TAKE A GOD DAM HINT

[MariaR]

Dreal you are the most seflish cocky one sided person I have ever met and being cocky is fine if you're right but the thing is YOU ARE ALWAYS WRONG

[MariaR]

I'm ignoring dreals awful ass is there a block button?

[MariaR]

"Oh it's never my fault it's always ____s fault!" hahahahahaha

[MariaR]

Gerry remember when I flip you can never say you can read me right ever again and you'll finally get it through your thick skull lol

[MariaR]

ok lol. i can read you right most of the time tho

BULL SHITTTTTTTTTTTTT
You have been wrong so many times it's not even funny and you're wrong here to you can not read me no matter how many times you say you can and finally this game can get it through your head
Pedit: Because as scum you'd try to pocket me.

[MariaR]

Scum Gerry would be screaming as much as RC would to get the lynch off me.

You're just fucking awful who can't read me town gerry here lol

[MariaR]

I don't care about you admitting your mistakes when you continually make them. the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting it to work.

you continually treating your shit reads like a bible and deathtunneling everyone who disagrees with you every game isn't going to magically start succeeding

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[MariaR]

thats not true lol. i've pushed on you before as scum, and you know it.

Links???????????????????????????
You've pushed on me as scum but you're never the one to start the wagon

ever

[MariaR]

You don't need to link but I don't remember you ever starting a wagon on me as scum but I remember you pushing me as scum

[MariaR]

THAT'S NOT A LIE GERRY HOLY SHIT YOU WILL NEVER ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST REASON I DISLIKE PLAYING WITH YOU

YOU NEVER LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES EVER YOU JUST REPEAT THE SAME SHIT BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG AND YOU WILL NEVER ADMIT IT

[MariaR]

It hurts when you lie over and over again and refuse to admit it.

[MariaR]

I have reads I'm just in no spot to push them right now lol Math you know I'm an easy ML so why isn't it happening here hm?

[MariaR]

WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE MARIA THE FUCK ALONE AND THEN JUDGE HER READS OFF OF WHAT SHE DOES WHEN SHE'S FREE TO FUCKING BREATHE INSTEAD OF DERPTUNNELING HER AND BLAMING HER FOR IT

I don't care what your AI is but thank you regardless

[MariaR]

RC quick Q we've both talked about how ate is a powerful scum weapon so aren't you a bit worried here?

[MariaR]

there's criticism and there's being a jackass dreal a huge dif

[MariaR]

there's criticism and there's being a jackass dreal a huge dif

so you're going to cry about me not coddling you when I criticize you?

gtfo

Oh I'm not gonna cry and I don't want you to coddle me either trust me but still there is a dif that you don't understand

[MariaR]

I've self voted as town and got myself hammered for it I didn't win us the game but I think it helped wake town up and I'd do it again if I need to.
Pedit: This isn't game talk dreal this is real shit rn I'm not asking you to trust me I'm asking you to take this advice or not because I don't know if your goal is to come off like a jackass or if you're really trying to give constructive criticism what you're doing is being a jackass rn
saying "IMPROVE YOUR PLAY THIS IS BAD etc etc" in the way you're doing is being a jackass
Trying to understand why someone does ___ not insta calling it bad and talking it over with the person on why you think it is bad and how they can improve is constructive criticism

[MariaR]

So again: MariaR what are your reads?

I give reads when I feel confident in my reads I have barely any reads and I'd have to go and Iso a few people to get said reads I have a sr on clum
I had a tr on cloud/alisae slot I have a tr on rc and gerry and btd (because of vifam) that's all I got and I'd have to go read more

[MariaR]

maria, don't self vote as town, no matter what YOU THINK, it is against your wincon, every single fucking time

DON'T DO IT, and you will be a better player

see were missing the "why" part here but this is better. Why do so? I self vote because I think I am lynchbait and if I lynch myself town will wake up and be better for it I think that helped in a game I did maybe it did maybe it didn't. Do you not like this idea?

[MariaR]

So again: MariaR what are your reads?

I give reads when I feel confident in my reads I have barely any reads and I'd have to go and Iso a few people to get said reads I have a sr on clum
I had a tr on cloud/alisae slot I have a tr on rc and gerry and btd (because of vifam) that's all I got and I'd have to go read more

Get said reads if you ever want my vote off you.

To be blunt I really don't give a fuck if your vote is on me

[MariaR]

maria, not in the slightest

it does more damage, especially in the longrun, all you do is sap any credibility you have for not being a selfish player in my view when you self-vote as town

it does not serve your term on principle, there may be instances where it doesn't do direct immediate damage, but establishing it as acceptable for town does severe damage to town playing better overall

like, towns suck around here ppl, it's become painfully obvious, and site-meta needs to change to help it not suck as much

part of this means that townies need to stop self-voting

oh and btw parity cop claim timing = SCUMMY AS SHIIIIIT

THANK YOU
See more of this this is good I like this
more of this thank you thumbs up ^_^

[MariaR]

My goal bottom line is to get a town win so I will focus on finding scum votes on me are meh my life means very little.

[MariaR]

Why would a doc ever out there visit targets unless there was no kill on a night? it just let's scum know who my tr's are

[MariaR]

Why would a doc ever out there visit targets unless there was no kill on a night? it just let's scum know who my tr's are

because that is what you do when you claim at L-1, SO TOWN HAS THE INFORMATION IN CASE YOU DIE

like, is it really that fucking hard to grasp???

Of course I would out that info if I was hammered but I have no need too until I am

[MariaR]

See this is why I think a me lynch is okay because people can wake up re sort the game and see how everything goes Math uses data simple and will refuse to see how she's wrong quite simple.

[MariaR]

Alrighty guess I have to go iso some people then.

[MariaR]

I don't know if I just get harder to play with people who are pure data or not hm I think it's better to dig into the brain because data can be false even if I do use a bit of data myself.
Math you sr me because of 2 games where my opening has been dif that's rather iffy logic you know in Civ I got lynched for barely any reason you know I am an easy ml as town what makes this case dif from civ
Yes I'm acting dif but that's just human emotion people never play 2 games the same as town/scum that's robotic and no one is a robot I really don't see where you're coming from here

[MariaR]

Okay let's go through this and have a talk then.

[MariaR]

PvP. Why do you think my scum games go so well Math? I've lost 2 scum games in my life. It's because I play like how I would as town I know what I would do as town and I do that action in PyP I wasn't trying at all I knew I was going to be lynched at some point so I stopped trying and let my team bus me I went down for my team does it look like I'm not trying here? Can you quote a few posts of mine that ping you and why, I don't want you to unvote on my doc claim nor should anyone they should keep the vote if they sr me, Where do you get this idea that I'm a reads 100% of the time type of gal I have my few reads and I've outted them the rest are null if I have a read I'll say it I can't help if reads don't come to me.

Do you think RT is scum trying to defend me? If so why would RT defend my slot as my scum partner instead of joining my wagon for barely any backlash why couldn't it be scum RT defending me per say? And the last one is just personal pref
Pedit: I have given you my reads a few posts ago. RT town Gerry Town BTD Town (Because of Vifam it feels like smackdown him) Clum scum.

[MariaR]

Also I have no way of proving this but I would have loved to be lolbussing Maria this game and with a wagon like this on her I would definitely be a part of it.

Oh same it'd be hella fun to have a bus contest to see who wins

[MariaR]

PvP. Why do you think my scum games go so well Math? I've lost 2 scum games in my life. It's because I play like how I would as town I know what I would do as town and I do that action in PyP I wasn't trying at all I knew I was going to be lynched at some point so I stopped trying and let my team bus me I went down for my team does it look like I'm not trying here? Can you quote a few posts of mine that ping you and why, I don't want you to unvote on my doc claim nor should anyone they should keep the vote if they sr me, Where do you get this idea that I'm a reads 100% of the time type of gal I have my few reads and I've outted them the rest are null if I have a read I'll say it I can't help if reads don't come to me.

Do you think RT is scum trying to defend me? If so why would RT defend my slot as my scum partner instead of joining my wagon for barely any backlash why couldn't it be scum RT defending me per say? And the last one is just personal pref
Pedit: I have given you my reads a few posts ago. RT town Gerry Town BTD Town (Because of Vifam it feels like smackdown him) Clum scum.

I think your scum games went okay. Mainly good NK/lucky vigs . If Titus wasn't killed in PYP I think you guys would have been steamrolled. Without any reads here it doesn't. In Civ and Thing they were candy.

For example: viewtopic.php?p=8455362#p8455362

Posts like that I look for in a game. I don't see you having conviction anywhere.

In regards to RC I had a scumread then at the start of the day but with how RC is posting it is impossible to sort him by reading his posts. And the actions left of trying to save someone who if Town is going to die tonight anyway is bad. Like if you're scum you should be lynched. Town doc you die.

I don't see what RC is doing here and even if we went only off actions like RC suggested your claim should make you lynched.

Because I was confident in a read on replacing in here if I wanted could I go into an iso quote some things I find scummy and show them hell yeah I could why am I not doing that? Because I don't want to right now I am drained and building a case isn't something I want to do at the moment so I'm just chatting.

[MariaR]

I'll read this after dinner
but I want to answer Kidann comment
I'm not drained from this game (well mostly it didn't help)
It's off site things but I will build a case if need be soonish

[MariaR]

I'll read this after dinner
but I want to answer Kidann comment
I'm not drained from this game (well mostly it didn't help)
It's off site things but I will build a case if need be soonish

Need be, Maria. Need be. You just claimed an important town PR. Act like one.

This made me chuckle nj

[MariaR]

I didn't know doctor had a playstyle Clum please tell me how I should play as a doctor.

[MariaR]

The reason I self voted was because I was upset and already drained simple as that. Clum needs to be tomorrow's lynch if I die a lot of people are looking at things and trying to nitpick why they're scummy

A thing scum do is look at a post that may seem towny/scummy and call it that because they just read on the surface level and don't think about the post in itself it's a classic tell.

[MariaR]

This site will scumread anything they don't find normal or understand instead of trying to figure out that non normal action happens, It's not shocking that's most people anyway but this site is just

whew

[MariaR]

I can not wait for half the comments after my lynch of "Well she was bad anyway so it's not my fault I lynched her!"
Math you tell me to tell you reads over and over and my reads have been right cloud slot is town bet I'm right on Clum too you rely on meta and that will get you burned, in fact, a lot of this is meta now "A doctor shouldn't do ____" is not an argument it's an opinion that is NAI

You want to go through my iso this game and tell me what I did wrong I will happily debunk that but until then you're just saying words that have no meaning

[MariaR]

maria ignore the pairity cop result for a second

has scum!gerry ever acted the way he is right now? like the "u all didnt listen to my right reads that i never really pushed anything with so now u all have to listen to my wrong reads or else ur an idiot!!" a la pyp with mathblade/mcmenno // grey/dunn?

i want to call it a locktown tell for gerry but i'm not sure and i figure you'd probably be the best in the table at reading gerry

Oh 100% yes he has he'll defend someone hardcore or call them town and when they flip he's like
YOU LISTEN TO ME NOW FUCKERS!

[MariaR]

I want to know what people find shitty about my play beside the self vote that's not even shitty lol.

[MariaR]

maria ignore the pairity cop result for a second

has scum!gerry ever acted the way he is right now? like the "u all didnt listen to my right reads that i never really pushed anything with so now u all have to listen to my wrong reads or else ur an idiot!!" a la pyp with mathblade/mcmenno // grey/dunn?

i want to call it a locktown tell for gerry but i'm not sure and i figure you'd probably be the best in the table at reading gerry

Oh 100% yes he has he'll defend someone hardcore or call them town and when they flip he's like
YOU LISTEN TO ME NOW FUCKERS!

oh fuck ok

is it genuine here though?

for obvious reasons rc was concerned about him but i kinda just called him obvtown so uh

I want to know what people find shitty about my play beside the self vote that's not even shitty lol.

like self-voting is objectively bad play in most scenarios but to be anything close to a decent mafia player you have to be able to understand people are sometimes irrational and that's ok and not always disingenious. so imo the ppl who are like "SELFVOTE = LOCKSCUM" are the ones actually playing poorly because they arent developing a read based on motivation or emotional context but rather are trying to pigeonhole townplay into a neat little box.

I think Gerry is town because I don't think he'd go like this way on me as scum so yes. Me and you already had a long talk on why I think self voting isn't bad play and it just depends on the circumstances so I won't argue with you again :p

[MariaR]

Hello.

Bye

vecna pls be town i want to powertown with you like in pyp but not be hard-pocketed this time

Haha giga got pockted everyone point and laugh

[MariaR]

Remember 646 when I replaced into a super scummy slot and lynched myself so you guys would focus on other slots x)

[MariaR]

Vecna help the bullies are lynching me

[MariaR]

I didn't know roles had play types please tell me how I should play as doctor
I'm slowly taking my gerry tr away he should know I'm town the only thing gerry can ever read right on me is my ate and he should know this is real as fuck

[MariaR]

Are you even reading? I said what you can read (the key word is can see I dumbed it down for you) is ate. I don't have you as scum you're just not lock town anymore reads progress and so do people's thoughts stop acting like the fact someone changed their mind on something is AI

[MariaR]

I am attacking I want clum lynched but I don't care if I get lynched either *shrug*

[MariaR]

I know who I want lynched but if my lynch helps town wake up I'll happily lynch myself people can't meta me no matter how hard they try.

[MariaR]

Maria Meta: She's more direct as town and does less filler as scum and shakes off pressure.

I don't care about pressure are you kidding me you can't ever pressure me the self vote wasn't because of pressure do not flatter yourself I'm not as direct cause I'm not very confident in my reads besides the few I have it's hard to find other scum but my tr's I feel okay on

Pedit: Vecna you wanna know why I do well as scum? Because I post like I would as town it's really simple

[MariaR]

It's not an opinion it's a fact lol

[MariaR]

Holy shit who is online who is not voting me so I can self hammer

[MariaR]

The bully thing is a joke SWEET JESUS MAN I play as scum as I would react as town it's why I do well most of the time I always think "What would town Maria do" and I post it.

Stop trying.

[MariaR]

I've tried to ask why people sr me and understand why but it's just meta this meta that

My lynch will wake you all up and you can learn that meta isn't as great as you think it is.

[MariaR]

Here are 2 games where I did the same thing
why don't you do more looking instead of hand picking
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70595
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68822

I wouldn't be mad if I was voted because of mostly my play this game but no it's just meta and it's gross and slightly offending

[MariaR]

Oh now you're ignoring proof that your case is bad tsk tsk I expect better from you Vecna.

[MariaR]

K kid vote me I really don't give a fuck I can't give you a reads list that doesn't exist so please vote me tyvm

[MariaR]

VOTE: Maria
Let this be a lesson that sheeping just meta is wrong if you don't understand ask figure out why people do what they do and judge off that hopefully with my flip you all can reset and get back on track good luck town

Time to go to my own reality ^_^

[MariaR]

shit lynch

ik self vote but this needs to happen

[MariaR]

GG town thanks for inspector for modding lovely flavoro was awesome

Hey Math let's talk about my meta

[MariaR]

Also I didn't sub out when I should've most likely cause holy fuck my rage x)