Open 677: See Nayne Ples Ples [THE END]

[Antihero]

jkfl;ajl;vmijew;u983jfaoicvlkjraifeoiwjsalk

[Antihero]

you'll be happy to hear that i am not scumreading you

[Antihero]

I don't mind them as long they sign their posts (preferably all of them).

if u have to sign, ur not doing it right

[Antihero]

I wanted to roll SK

not as fun as advertised...

[Antihero]

i'm gonna go out on a limb and guess momo's native language is not english

i think that's part of the smoke around him

[Antihero]

and my native language is English. Why??

oh... oops....

a couple mix up in idioms made me think that but phone autocorrect could've done that

[Antihero]

hey ari

i don't think there's anything to your mom scumread

[Antihero]

^momo

[Antihero]

Creature is null for me but probably town since I think he's trying a bit harder than usual but in a fake way.

What!?

If he's fake and trying too hard, why does that make him town!?!?

- O

mmmmmm

p sure there's supposed to be "not in a fake way"

[Antihero]

Regardless even if he wasn't anti's a very easy read.

jeez you don't think i could possibly fake what i posted so far?

fuck

[Antihero]

i am more pathetic than i realized

[Antihero]

this banner is going bye-bye

and i will not miss it

[Antihero]

Yeah, maybe not. But I'm watching them. Wanna join us on Creature instead?

prob not?

[Antihero]

wow i dont even really know what i'm doing...

im also drunker than i realize

this is great

[Antihero]

who are you townreading so far sakura?

[Antihero]

not lickety?

[Antihero]

i got creature, m&m, and lickety

[Antihero]

not lickety?

Not really.
Gistou flashbacks and stuff.

eh...

i wouldn't make a multiball arguably-not-mafia game the gold standard for meta

[Antihero]

i can see creature

don't see pers

[Antihero]

He's being vague, not following through with his reads, etc. He voted us for being weird but when asked to explain changed his vote. He has no reasoning on Hawk other than the Iceberg thing which i believe means he thinks there is scummy motivation to the posts but isn't saying what it is or why he thinks it, and he tried to slip our wagon into the arguments there without doing any work and avoided the LQ/RC thing as if to slide by and not ruffle feathers of 2 townies fighting.

that's creature

sry not on the train

[Antihero]

i think i'll start here

VOTE: lil uzi vert

[Antihero]

hm....

not sure how i feel about momo now...

[Antihero]

i don't think luv is lurking and i don't think anyone's accusing him of that, hawk

[Antihero]

momo is way to appeasy for me to like what they are doing.

^i know. i got that too.^

the hefty dose of "look how reasonable and town i'm being" unsettles me a little.

i just don't know if that feeling's caused by a difference in site culture between here and EM or what

[Antihero]

momo's town.

besides, considering there are people who are acting way more scummy than me, I am not really worried about your vote.

This is not something I see scum honestly typing out and thinking they should hit the submit button.

-- Mail

errrrrrrrrrrrr

maybe?

[Antihero]

Point to me where he's been scummy this game. lack of evidence is not evidence.

interactions w music and mail

stuff like this:

Hey Music and Mail, are you scumhunting or just arguing with LQ?

Echo.

pings me bc it feels like he's poking rc JUST ENOUGH to provoke a reaction but stays out of the way of the spatter when the shit hits the fan.

i'm also just in general not really liking his push on music and mail

[Antihero]

i've played w postie once and i don't rly remember much of her except she was guiltied on d2 as scum

rc i chronically tend to misread as scum when he's actually town

[Antihero]

don't make vague faces at me...

[Antihero]

i don't rly think the hawk read is terrific either but i don't think the push is necessarily scummy...?

kinda hard to gauge rn

[Antihero]

don't make vague faces at me...

Sorry, just doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence that you can read them well. That's really all that means.

gimme a break

mafia is hard

[Antihero]

hm...

i feel like i'm on the wrong track

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

charloux, kts, and whoever fills the pers slot need to do things

[Antihero]

lq being blindingly obvious town and sakura not acknowledging that sort of makes me question but i don't really feel her as a d1 lynch

[Antihero]

fyi, i think days here are generally longer and games are slower than on em

we're not to the point of being ready to lynch yet

[Antihero]

^

anti stocks in hawk lynch are rising fast. you should buy.

get back in ur hydra u dirty skank

[Antihero]

kinda wondering why luv isn't more paranoid of being pocketed here

[Antihero]

I was pretty sure Anti was town too.

and you don't now?

[Antihero]

*and you're not now?

[Antihero]

ur taking ppl too seriously, lq

i really do want to know what i did that momo found scummy though

[Antihero]

i really do want to know what i did that momo found scummy though

[Antihero]

And this is what I was saying earlier LQ. Going against people purely based on principle.

And Hawk nailed it. Nobody is going to be like the IC is scum.

apartment clock junkyard aerobatic brick swollen jump blush ideal chart fuel poetry aftertaste blackheart bluster atrocities mutant boast small ether riot honeymoon warm flatness cricket mix democracy hectic dozens disciple

also, yes

[Antihero]

alright, just dropping by here on my way to be-

oh jeez

[Antihero]

postie did anything happen in the last 10 pages or can i sleep now?

[Antihero]

/low groan

[Antihero]

well i guess i can forget about sleeping

gimme a sec

[Antihero]

Is it just me or is RC just working total bull right now.

Reasons come when I feel like it.

I will act like I am better than you because it is true.

Everything will be for my own, unrevealed reasons.

Is it just me or is this obvscum.

it's just you

[Antihero]

hey m and m would it make you happy if I sheeped you

i mean I probably won't sheep u on momo but yknow ill sheep u not on hawk either... Hmm I'll sheep u on another person

@momo, lol stop wking lq and focus on actual game shit. i could give a fuck less the dudes iq but his play is stupid.

@Anti, can you sorta see this as a rf from KTS?

no

also, fun fact: i've not once in my 8 years here seen scum make a concerted effort to "rolefish"

[Antihero]

EspeciallyTheLies replaces Persivul

welcome to the circus etl

[Antihero]

I think KTS is Town.

ah, yeesh...

...


...


...

really?

[Antihero]

I have a gut town lean on momo

really what makes u think that?

bc gut is actually what's keeping a townread elusive there. i feel like under the torrent of posting there's this thin layer of sleaze but idk what to chalk it up to or even if my intuition is good here or not

[Antihero]

Their vote on Hawk when I said Hawk was being defeatist andI then instead voted RC because I thought something fishy was going on with RC/Hawk.

i'm sure there is a universe where that sentence makes sense...

this one is not it

[Antihero]

postie i don't know if you're using iioa correctly here but regardless it's pretty mediocre as far as tells go esp at the beginning of games

[Antihero]

lq if you want to lynch m+m, you will have to do it without my vote and against my advice

[Antihero]

M and M, why should we vote Hawk. Is this you trying to start a wagon. I am kind of in between with him,(leaning towards scum) but should he really be lynched.

Anyone have a good read on Antihero.

Fuck no Sakura there is no way Anti is town this game.

VOTE: Sakura Hana

Town!Sakura would never have suggested anything that dumm.

I will give reasons when I am ready to end the day.

I am not ready to end the day.

Okay there Momo.

Just FYI I can't lynch you today because Postie townreads you but you're not making it to endgame, I promise you that.

VOTE: Music and Mail

what's this now?

[Antihero]

Their vote on Hawk when I said Hawk was being defeatist andI then instead voted RC because I thought something fishy was going on with RC/Hawk.

i'm sure there is a universe where that sentence makes sense...

this one is not it

Its a tin foil hat theory that RC is bussing Hawk and Hawk is acting like "well, that's the plan" and is acting all defeatist because they are

supposed

to get lynched by RC here. I also really want to push RC because I honestly haven't seen anything you can call traditionally townie from them.

what does any of this have to do w kts?

[Antihero]

lq if you want to lynch m+m, you will have to do it without my vote and against my advice

:/

Why is RC Town?

That hydra has acted objectively Scummy... I know meta is a thing, but acting blatantly anti-town is NO reason to Town read someone. I think RC is pulling strings. That haven't made a single solid push yet. Their current vote is on Hawk for reasons of IIoA used horribly wrong. Occam's Razor... If it looks like Scum...

unless it's something measurably suboptimal like faking guilties or not claiming miller in the first post or something else technical like that, there's no such thing as "objectively scummy"

also i don't think the hawk push is scummy ...?

[Antihero]

KTS didn't see what I saw, they just saw that Hawk looked like shit for lying down ready to die early D1 for shitty ass reasons.

and hawk's not scummy

your point?

[Antihero]

Their vote on Hawk when I said Hawk was being defeatist andI then instead voted RC because I thought something fishy was going on with RC/Hawk.

i'm sure there is a universe where that sentence makes sense...

this one is not it

Its a tin foil hat theory that RC is bussing Hawk and Hawk is acting like "well, that's the plan" and is acting all defeatist because they are

supposed

to get lynched by RC here. I also really want to push RC because I honestly haven't seen anything you can call traditionally townie from them.

ok just for fun

if you were to assign a percentage probability to this theory being right, what would it be?

[Antihero]

A vote for scum.

oh... i see

so i guess there's no chance of you telling me how you can look at those four posts and think an m+m vote follows?

[Antihero]

what the hell anti I'm obvtowning

no you're uh....

really not

[Antihero]

im honored u think I'm good by the way but rc is right I'm trash

that doesn't mean i won't push whoever the fuck I want to tho

the CLOSEST you've gotten to a town post is probably this but otherwise ... meh?

[Antihero]

i'm... pretty certain that was a joke

[Antihero]

first things first, nothing is "objectively" anything right now

[Antihero]

In my book (I have a lot of experience with getting Scum read for this) If you can't come up with a reasonable reason for Scum reading someone, it is likely that they are Scum because this is the corner stone of a good Scum game and something that must be taken under heavy heavy scrutiny.

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[Antihero]

RCs case on Hawk is objectively bad. Not only are they reluctant to actually give reasons for their Scum read on Hawk, but the reasons given do are not logically, informationally, or site meta sound. There is literally no substance to the read whatsoever. It is all smoke and mirrors for RC to spin a story Day 2 on why they wanted Hawk lynched. Hawk has said they have insight into why RC is tunneling them, that reason being so RC can single handedly solve the game by looking at reactions from a lynch on someone who is giving up and town reading the person who is tunneling on them.

i don't agree with that

hawk didn't really do much in his first couple posts aside from say something about uzi and his PR game. now... i didn't really know what to think about that but i could see someone looking at hawk's early posting and going "scum trying to avoid doing anything meaningful."

these are SUBJECTIVE things, btw.

[Antihero]

tells don't exist

[Antihero]

Thor665 Scum reads me hard core, I don't give up, I fight with him for pages and pages of wall post after wall post. I am not even sure the guy is Scum, but I still think the stuff he is doing is shady. Town won this game in a landslide because I did not give up fighting. It was literally David and Goliath. This is the way games should be played.

i don't rly know what parallels that game is supposed to have w this one....

[Antihero]

I don't have time right now to tear apart M&Ms case on Hawk right now,

errrrr.... what?

early d1 cases are not rly things to be "torn apart" and that's a pretty good sign you're in a tunnel

[Antihero]

Thor665 Scum reads me hard core, I don't give up, I fight with him for pages and pages of wall post after wall post. I am not even sure the guy is Scum, but I still think the stuff he is doing is shady. Town won this game in a landslide because I did not give up fighting. It was literally David and Goliath. This is the way games should be played.

i don't rly know what parallels that game is supposed to have w this one....

He's just giving you an example of what he thinks RC should be doing here.

"he is not conforming to the way i think this game SHOULD be played SCUMZ"

no... that's not a good point if that is indeed what he was attempting to illustrate

[Antihero]

tells don't exist

That is a matter of debate. Tells definitely exist. If they didn't, no Scum would ever get lynched.

objective and absolute tells do not exist.

i don't think you'd find much debate from anyone on that.

i think you're really fooling yourself (and doing yourself a disservice) if you frame your subjective opinion as an objective fact.

[Antihero]

ok you're getting distracted by generalities so i won't go there any more

(and of course if you use a large enough sample size pretty much ANY method is going to "catch" scum eventually)

i'm saying that in this SPECIFIC instance, rc+postie's hawk case is not something you have "torn apart" and it's something you are not likely going to be able to "tear apart"

[Antihero]

ok i'm going to bed we're well past the point of diminishing returns on this conversation

[Antihero]

Anything I should keep in mind while reading?

your existance is fleeting, you and everyone you love will die someday, nothing you do matters, and the universe has no purpose

also we killed 9 fairies

[Antihero]

I'm going to be a strong boulder on the way to any momo wagon.

VOTE: ETL

you disappoint me

so much

[Antihero]

ANTIIIIIII

I didn't even realize you were in this game this is awesome AND you're the IC. So give me the rundown please. I've gotten through like.. page 5ish and I'm quickly realizing that almost everyone here is new and I don't know them and I don't even really know where to begin.

Also, I ISO'd you and you're bullshitting. Stop that. Just because you're confirmed doesn't mean you don't have to give a shit. If anything, I need you to give more of a shit than normal.

Whatcha got?

sry. i'm bad now

what can i do for you?

[Antihero]

First of all, I need you to really be playing the game. Not just responding to stuff.

eeks... sorry.

thing is i'm having a bit of difficulty getting awesome thoughts this game.

town reads i'm rolling w now are: both the hydras, hawk, lq, sakura

if i was feeling like living dangerously i'd put creature and luv in there too.

momo has still failed to achieve a townread from me which is kind of weird in and of itself. i'd lynch him today if it's between him and m+m.

kts is my dark horse pick for scum. she's posting but she doesn't rly seem like she's really accomplishing anything and i get the feeling she's taking refuge in saying "reasonable" things in the shitstorm between lq, m+m, and momo even though there's really not that much substance there.

[Antihero]

oh no.

oh... should i not be?

what did i do?

[Antihero]

I don't meta dive, but I don't think you are lying since easily confirmable through Anti.

can confirm. not buddying. we have an extensive history and a good track record w reading each other.

and for context i'm probably the only person etl knows here...? (correct me if i'm wrong) so it's less "buddying" and more like "hanging out with the one person you know at a party full of strangers"

[Antihero]

take a better look at creature.

ok... so i hate to be that guy but i happen to know it's really easy to scumread creature when he's town bc he's... uh...

unconventional

I KNOW I KNOW it doesn't automatically make him town here but... j;lkfdsjkl;dsae;jflk;dsjflkdsalk;ejwli;fj;ldsfas

[Antihero]

M&M.

no

[Antihero]

And I agree with LUV. Just investigate me. I will come out Town.

godfather claim

[Antihero]

i'm pretty sure momo is misunderstanding what an "alt" is

[Antihero]

And I agree with LUV. Just investigate me. I will come out Town.

godfather claim

wtf is this setup!? doc and investigative and a gf?

p-edit: Creature, if I didn't think you were scum I might actually find you funny.

I WAS BEING CHEEKY

also etl this is c9++, realo is being cute with the game title. there actually might be a godfather.

[Antihero]

I'm not even sure if you genuinely think I am scum or is just scumreading me because of my weird posts.

the beauty of ur playstyle is that it's nearly impossible to tell

[Antihero]

What's this about a godfather?

i just realized realo didn't link the setup

EVERYONE

this is the setup: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B

[Antihero]

Is this his play style with the names and lines or is this new.

he has done that as town

[Antihero]

Innocent Child doesn't balance out Godfather to be honest.

c9++ is actually a lot more balanced than i would initially assess it at. most of the time. it's scumsided whenever scum get a roleblocker. that's the kicker. otherwise, the win rates are actually pretty close to 50/50.

[Antihero]

VOTE: kts

[Antihero]

@antihero...why

dude... i kind of already said...

First of all, I need you to really be playing the game. Not just responding to stuff.

eeks... sorry.

thing is i'm having a bit of difficulty getting awesome thoughts this game.

town reads i'm rolling w now are: both the hydras, hawk, lq, sakura

if i was feeling like living dangerously i'd put creature and luv in there too.

momo has still failed to achieve a townread from me which is kind of weird in and of itself. i'd lynch him today if it's between him and m+m.

kts is my dark horse pick for scum. she's posting but she doesn't rly seem like she's really accomplishing anything and i get the feeling she's taking refuge in saying "reasonable" things in the shitstorm between lq, m+m, and momo even though there's really not that much substance there.

[Antihero]

if someone can give me a good reason to townread kts i'll shut the fuck up

[Antihero]

VOTE: KTS

Def agree with Antihero's reason.

Feeling like this would be a good D1 lynch.

oh jeez...

[Antihero]

well that killed the vibe for me

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

We should just lynch momo.

i'm actually pretty close to that point myself

[Antihero]

kops couple posts are pretty cruddy so i do want to make that slot post

[Antihero]

not it

also if anyone hammers before kop posts may you feel the swift vengeance of a vig's bullet

[Antihero]

does everyone want a new IC?

etl's thing is to motivate me so i took that but now i feel like i'm doing something wrong and i don't really know what it is.

[Antihero]

Anti, do you remember that case I made against MonkeyMan in The Cougar's Den game? I sorta feel like its the same thing for my case on M&M here.

yeah, yeah...

i mean... what can i say? it's brilliant.

[Antihero]

Sorry would you rather everyone just let you lynch us because it makes you feel bad that people won't let you do stupid shit?
Get off your high horse you not being allowed to lynch town isn't some grand slight that town is pulling against you.

Literally ALL you do is push. Its like 90% push 10% reasons.

is there something wrong w this ratio?

[Antihero]

Ding. Dong. This is the minister of happiness speaking. The minister of happiness would like to remind you to try to calm down about other people's ability and wait until the post-game for non argument-related debate. Ding. Dong.

Post count is really coming soon.

lies

the real minister of happiness wears a white lab coat and gives out thorazine

[Antihero]

i could lolhammer...

then time how long it takes etl to hunt me down and strangle me

that could be fun

[Antihero]

let me get back to you on that

rc/postie, go ahead and hit me hard in the face with an updated hawk read plz

[Antihero]

10 days on deadline. we really need to force charloux and kop slots to do something.

[Antihero]

no

asking for a claim at l-small number is standard

[Antihero]

yes

l-"small number depending on wagon momentum" is claim time

[Antihero]

i.e. - speedy wagon most often means wagon on town. momo is low hanging fruit.

oh... i should prob tell you that i'm off of pre-flip wagon analysis now

[Antihero]

i don't really believe the claim but there's not much i can do about it rn

oh well

[Antihero]

Speed wagons are usually on town

yes that's bc wagons are usually on town

[Antihero]

not what i said

saying "x usually happens to town" is a meaningless statement because MOST things usually happen to town. it's a consequence of there just being more town.

unless your contention is that SPECIFIC scummy ppl colluded to cause such-and-such to happen to a townie, using that to predict someone's alignment is bad.

[Antihero]

People either objecting to or not supporting either the Hawk or LUV lynches: why?

because i'm bad and stupid

that's why

[Antihero]

Hello. 65 pages will take awhile. D1...fcuk...how many overposters does this game have ffs.

you can skip my posts

they all suck anyway

[Antihero]

i'm hoping rc/postie's case just knocks my nuts off so i can vote hawk and go on w my life

[Antihero]

or maybe if i'm lucky havingfitz will obvscum

[Antihero]

VOTE: ETL

lq...

we have a history. we played a lot of games together. we have a hydra. we've learned a lot about this game from each other.

she's going to post that way as either alignment.

[Antihero]

I hope Anti gets a good read on ETL today.

@Anti, still waiting on those reasons for why M&M is Town.

well i'm still waiting on that hawk case so i guess neither of us are getting what we want

[Antihero]

I don't think I even read the majority of this game.
-Electra (Ali)

Why not? You've been here since the beginning so there is really no excuse this time.

I had a tin foil hat theory a while back that Ali isn't posting because that hydra knows Ali is new and hasn't played Scum yet so they would be an easy Scum read.

ragingspammers from spyro would beg to differ viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70313

[Antihero]

Ya well, new information changes my mind.

I try to be open and not tunnel anyone.

Just the way I play.

One should accept that they are not perfect and listen to others.

yeah.......

has there been a wagon this game you HAVEN'T been on?

[Antihero]

i know i'm not "supposed" to bc "lurker lynchez no infoz hurpdurp", but i kinda want to lynch kop. 1709 was a whole buncha nothin

[Antihero]

i grant you the sooper special IC permission to do a tl;dr, ali

[Antihero]

whenever someone you don't remember greets you like they know you the polite response is to pretend you remember them and respond in kind

jeez, didn't anyone teach you manners?

[Antihero]

i'll reread luv and e+o tonight but i don't think i'm scumreading either of them :\

VOTE: kop for now

[Antihero]

rc

i bled for you

i diffused your wagon

and the thanks i get is no hawk case?

that saddens me

[Antihero]

in other news my initial gut townread on creature is slowly decaying

[Antihero]

seriously? why? i liked his entrance a lot better than kop's

[Antihero]

I liked Kop's last post.

what about it?

[Antihero]

boo

[Antihero]

i mean nothing to rc

it's ok........

[Antihero]

Kop (2): Antihero, Creature

Anti. wth are you doing? I don't even see a case on Kop. Why is hanging out on a lame wagon better?

well jeez, idk.

don't you think it's weird this is the ONLY wagon that HASN'T taken off on my whim?

why do you think that is?

[Antihero]

waffle
waffle
waffle
waffle

jump on somebody for something lame.

nothing.

nothing.

[Antihero]

I find it difficult to engage in games when I'm being sat on like I am in this game. sorry.

what the fuck? you AND postie?

one of my main goals since replacing in is to throw away my weight to GIVE YOU ROOM

lq is off you specifically because i'm not on board. NO ONE IS VOTING YOU. so i think i did a pretty good job.

smh

[Antihero]

waffle
waffle
waffle
waffle

jump on somebody for something lame.

nothing.

nothing.

[/quot


Crap case. Have you got anything more to add to that?

Or is it a whole lot a nuttin?

scum response

[Antihero]

go ahead and lynch e+o or luv. either's going to give you a townflip.

have fun.

[Antihero]

LQ and others: vote me if you have to but I'm flipping town

YOU'RE
NOT
FLIPPING
TODAY
I
AM
NOT
LETTING
IT
HAPPEN

if you're really putting this kind of pressure on yourself that's insane

stop it

[Antihero]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

[Antihero]

i kinda want to turn around and lynch someone pooh-poohing this lynch now...

i think it's exceedingly likely scum are participating in that, especially if kop actually is town.

[Antihero]

oh hey i'm back to the 86 page marathon game

[Antihero]

Hammer should count.
Despite how bad that lynch was. 87 pages and the best you lot can do is lynch a lurker who is pretty much awol in all his games.

dear vig,

this can go if kop flips town

[Antihero]

Who is Momo checking tonight?

etl

[Antihero]

or m+m

[Antihero]

i'm not speculating. i'm making a decree.

[Antihero]

that's an sk kill

[Antihero]

m+m and momo for groupscum
luv for sk

[Antihero]

Why are both Momo and Anti alive??

momo b/c he's scum

me b/c i'm having a shit game

[Antihero]

Why the immediate votes on M&M?

etl + mm were in the same "on the luv wagon" grouping and etl had a "strong townread" on mm for no apparent reason

[Antihero]

m+m and momo for groupscum

[e+o and kts also might make sense here...?]

ari's "pie on face" act kind of pings me

[Antihero]

luv for sk

you awake, man?

[Antihero]

havingfitz is scum btw

oh yeah... forgot about him....

/bpppppprpbpbrpprpbrprb

i have too many scumreads to cram into a couple slots...

[Antihero]

idk, I townread LUV.

i can at least agree he's not scum with etl

[Antihero]

[Antihero]

fuck your bullshit anti you shit on my scum wagons to push a stupid lurker lynch and then try to lynch me.

I'm done with this game. enjoy being fucking awful and losing.

VOTE: Hawk

i didn't "shit" on anything, i asked for the read. if i wanted to shit on it, i would've dismissed it out of hand and not even bothered asking. but... you know... i guess i'm just not as good as you.

also i have gone out of my way to give you a LOT of space this game so... no. no guilt trip here.

[Antihero]

ok well i guess i'm an asshole

VOTE: hawk

pbpbpbpbbpbtptpbptpbtpbtpptptptttttt

games like this remind me of how terrible i am

[Antihero]

i did think momo was scum this whole time though so i will hold onto that as a consolation prize

[Antihero]

Hey Anti, if I die and someone claims they vigged me, they're actually an SK.

well yeah....

any kill that's not momo is an sk claim (etl kill is already mostly an sk claim)

[Antihero]

i agree that ari hydra does have a good chance of being scum here

[Antihero]

IT'S A ZOMBIE

JFKL;DJSAKFL;JDLKS;AJFLKDSA

[Antihero]

well... i owe rc an apology

i'm sorry, rc

[Antihero]

VOTE: momo

[Antihero]

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[Antihero]

CREATURE HE'S NOT HAMMERED WE NEED ONE MORE VOTE

DROP THE HAMMER

[Antihero]

VOTE: luv

[Antihero]

aggressive narrowing there

[Antihero]

Yeah, it's down to E&O, Fitz and Sakura.

X

[Antihero]

i guess it could be fitz...?

luv is rly the only person who makes sense killing etl

[Antihero]

either roleblocked or sk is terrible at risk assessment and no killed

[Antihero]

Also, ETL kill doesn't tell anything.

not so

since d1 was a mislynch and town was bumbling sk prob aimed for scum

[Antihero]

either roleblocked or sk is terrible at risk assessment and no killed

also possible mm was sk kill and scum popped sk's bp

also possible kills overlapped

[Antihero]

why is luv ruled out to you?

[Antihero]

Do you think havingfitz, Electra and Orestes and Sakura Hana wouldn't do the ETL kill at all because they're not smart enough to go after scum?

afaik they weren't scumreading her

[Antihero]

idk, his engagement here looks higher.

higher than...?

what r u saying?

[Antihero]

tbh I hate SKs, so you can hunt them yourself.

oh yeah, i'm with u there.

we're not even rly playing mafia at this point, we're playing "find the random vt painted purple"

[Antihero]

than his scum games.

sk meta will more closely mimic town meta than groupscum meta

[Antihero]

SK may not play the same as groupscum, but they still sometimes go to "oh I don't need to scumhunt anyway"

ehhhhhhhhh

i don't agree w that

[Antihero]

sakura, plz vote luv

[Antihero]

ETL kill could also come from an SK afraid of ETL catching him/her.

remind me who etl was voting again...?

[Antihero]

I'm town Anti.

oh... well don't i feel foolish now?

[Antihero]

there's a goofy part of me that thinks momo wasn't lying about who he targeted n1

[Antihero]

So, I havent done that Iso thing, but have talked to Alisae and we are in full agreement here.

hmmmmmmmmmmm....
I'm debating on pushing Creature for RC since RC died.
Will talk with Ari.
-Electra (Ali)

well...

this is some hydra dynamic you two got going on here...

[Antihero]

We just have to figure out who Anti hasn't suspected at all.

VOTE: Creature

back to being ok w this dying

[Antihero]

the whole discredit thing is pretty cute but....

there are no flipped docs of any kind and no scum strongman

[Antihero]

anti I'll give you a biscuit if you vote Creature
-Electra (Ali)

nah i'll pass

[Antihero]

the whole discredit thing is pretty cute but....

there are no flipped docs of any kind and no scum strongman

*sk strongman rather

point still stands that there's an obvious reason i'm still alive and it's not (automatically) bc my read is bad

[Antihero]

Lil Uzi Vert (1): Antihero

yeah...

[Antihero]

Anti should've been the night kill and I want to know why he wasn't.

could've sworn i talked about this ...

[Antihero]

there are no flipped docs of any kind and no scum strongman

[Antihero]

LUV why did you switch from voting E&O to voting with E&O.

Found Creature more scummy.

question:

if you're so adamant about nka, then why aren't you analyzing and pushing kts' reads?

[Antihero]

ok

[Antihero]

ok mass claim

[Antihero]

odrer doesn't matter

claim when you're on

[Antihero]

Anti, the set up is CCCTTTM
VOTE: No Lynch

why vote no lynch?

[Antihero]

Anti, the set up is CCCTTTM
VOTE: No Lynch

why vote no lynch?

It's mylo, no?
-Electra (Ali)

i mean...

the idea behind voting no lynch is to increase odds

but i'm already conf town so no lynch owuldn't increase odds at all?

why are you voting no lynch?

[Antihero]

i feel like i should just take this at face value and it's just fitz but i'll see how i feel about it later when im not drunk

[Antihero]

i'm not finding any indication creature was a PR from his iso

is anyone else?

[Antihero]

do any of you actually plan on doing anything or are we just going to end up random lynching?

[Antihero]

If I had to lean one way or the other between E&O and Sakura I would lean towards E&O due to game long suspicions towards that slot.

so i'm looking back at your iso and i really have no idea why you ever suspected e&o in the first place

[Antihero]

So is that a no from you Anti?

that is a no

is that really what you're going to badger me about?

[Antihero]

no, there's not a magical serial killer hunter here. i can answer now for everyone here when i say that. it's not a good question.

that's why i'm getting horsey. (and because you're posting about that instead of posting about your e+o read)

[Antihero]

'mkay

i'm gonna start looking for my three sided die i guess

[Antihero]

i posted yesterday

why am i getting prodded?

[Antihero]

i hope no one's waiting on me

i have nothing to prove. you 3 do.

[Antihero]

so tell me, what am i supposed to analyze? right now is the point when SK has to act like scum and fabricate a read (when they never had to before) but now everyone's sitting on their hands.

your reads? i already asked u about e+o the "gamelong read" and i'm no closer to figuring anything out about that.

sakura? blank slate. has yet to do ANYTHING in endgame.

e+o? same story.

so yeah... go ahead and tell me how lazy i'm being while everyone sits around in silence.

[Antihero]

wow this is SUPER fucking obvious who's faking the reads here. i'm just too fucking lazy to recognize it.

isn't that right?