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I have to say, elements is good at baffling me.-
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yeah i believe we could spend whole game discusing this and still reaching no conclusionIn post 96, Elements wrote: Hopefully this clears up the post enough that we can move on from an unhelpful discussion about why my brain does things
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indeed, but if its true, its better to claim it asapIn post 93, Black wrote: From what I gathered, Miller claims are pretty controversial. Scum could claim this early in order to deter any potential investigative roles from targeting them, so people generally aren't a big fan of these claims
In my opinion, claiming miller this early feels towny. Of course, scum could be bold enough to try to pull this. But i find it unlikely. Most scum i have played against did not like much attention at D1.-
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Millers kinda feel as LHF to me for now.In post 172, Hu Tao wrote: I belive Dunn and ssbm's claim. Unless the small chance they are scum together or scum informed of miller's in this game. Either way, I wouldn't want them today at the very least. If there are actual millers, there is likely a way to confirm that somehow regardless.-
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+ townie pointIn post 32, davesaz wrote:
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town-
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For now my first impressions are that dave and both millers could be town.
Still too far from finding a scum, but its a start.-
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I have seen RN playing games. Unfortunately i believe he got some serious irl stuff happening and hasnt been seen at this site for over a month.In post 209, Black wrote: I don't think I've ever seen Random Nurse actually play a game. He's in a perpetual state of joining games and then flaking-
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Could you please elaborate?In post 213, Hu Tao wrote:
VOTE: NaerysIn post 184, Naerys wrote: For now my first impressions are that dave and both millers could be town.
Still too far from finding a scum, but its a start.-
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Hello Nurse! I am glad you are okay. Good to play with you again.-
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I will. I dont know those players, so i dont know how good they are. My first impression was leaning town on them. But that doesnt mean that i wont cchange my mind, if i feel they are suspicious.In post 228, Random Nurse wrote:
Competent Scum would definitely claim Miller if they wanted to. If you're Town keep this in mind.In post 105, Naerys wrote:
indeed, but if its true, its better to claim it asapIn post 92, Black wrote: From what I gathered, Miller claims are pretty controversial. Scum could claim this early in order to deter any potential investigative roles from targeting them, so people generally aren't a big fan of these claims
In my opinion, claiming miller this early feels towny. Of course, scum could be bold enough to try to pull this. But i find it unlikely. Most scum i have played against did not like much attention at D1.-
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I think it depends on the slip. When person starts to pushing for a person that got previous night NKed, i think that deserves to be pushed. But mistaking one player for another can happen easily to anyone. Especially if they have similiar names/pictures. Happened to me, was quite embarassing. So i can relate to Elements and honestly dont really feel like pushing him for it.In post 187, davesaz wrote: I'm too late to be the first one to bring up that questioning Elements over apparently getting Dunn and me confused seems pretty nit picky. To me jumping on a "slip" is scum more often than town. Not enough to make a read from but worth remembering.
As for scum pushing this slip - yes, it feels like something scum would try to exploit. Some players still didnt even post, so the chance that Elements was pushed by townies only is an equal one in my mind.-
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Not much of agenda as lack of engagement and paying attention.In post 244, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What scum agenda involves pushing the last night’s NK?In post 235, Naerys wrote:
I think it depends on the slip. When person starts to pushing for a person that got previous night NKed, i think that deserves to be pushed. But mistaking one player for another can happen easily to anyone. Especially if they have similiar names/pictures. Happened to me, was quite embarassing. So i can relate to Elements and honestly dont really feel like pushing him for it.In post 187, davesaz wrote: I'm too late to be the first one to bring up that questioning Elements over apparently getting Dunn and me confused seems pretty nit picky. To me jumping on a "slip" is scum more often than town. Not enough to make a read from but worth remembering.
Even though he isnt in this game,scum!gob is already legendary for these slips-
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I was trying to cheer myself up( and perhaps anyone else).In post 416, Hu Tao wrote:
I don't like the second part of the post for some reason.In post 221, Naerys wrote:
Could you please elaborate?In post 213, Hu Tao wrote:
VOTE: NaerysIn post 184, Naerys wrote: For now my first impressions are that dave and both millers could be town.
Still too far from finding a scum, but its a start.-
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Welcome CSF, Broccoli-
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I was having a lazy Sunday, i will catch up in a moment-
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RN gives towny vibesIn post 359, Random Nurse wrote: Thank you. In a game of Mafia the mistrual of content is a grievous thing, and one I keep a keen eye out for.-
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I have never played with Guillotina and so they are rather difficult to get a grasp on. It could be just a playstyle thing, it could be a scum move. When i am trying to think like scum, i ask myself what could be their motivation. For example - scum!timmer could be trying to go for what he feels like easier wagon which wouldnt attract much attention.In post 384, Black wrote: VOTE: Guillotina
I think there's partner equity in Guillotina/kyouko
Guillotina said she would support a kyouko wagon but jumped off less than 30 minutes later, right after Elements and I joined. I don't think the Celebloki vote was a very good reason to suddenly end their support and having Celebloki at the bottom of their preliminary reads in 310 feels like a performative justification for voting there rather than an actual read
In both 293 and 377 they made sure to include that they weren't voting for the same reason as the person they were sheeping which feels like scum that might be trying to flaunt that their read is unique and different
I think the questions from Guillotina are like...ok, but nothing scum couldn't come up with in an attempt to seem townie, and I think the interpretation in 374 is really odd and it just feels like unnecessary shade towards Timmer
Or scum!Guillotina is trying to sow some discord between townies. Could be Hu Tao their buddy? Cant rule it out
Also it could be just being bad at expressing things.( A stuff i am personally bad at.)
It could be also town!Timmer being paranoid of Hu Tao and town!Guillotina being paranoid of Timmer. Did Gullotina say what they think wbout Hu Tao? I need to look that up.-
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From Guillotina ISO i have got a feeling like they are doing a lot of posts but i dont get much of solving vibe from them.
Could you elaborate a bit? Reasons for your TR, reasons for your SR? It feels like you cooked up something without much thinking.In post 310, Guillotina wrote: My preliminary reads:
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Broccoli is awful vegetable, which i dont like, so nope.In post 527, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:Oh well.
@Nurse, since Gamma doesn't want in on the townblock, what do you say about being the third member? It's only a temporary block to get the game going, you don't have to commit to it for the length of the entire game.
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Well, since it behaved quite nastily in my stomech i would say i judged it by behavior too.In post 535, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: I'm delighted to hear that you judge me by my color and species and NOT by my behavior. That's truly the best way to judge people.
Idk if juicy. I dont get much of solving vibe from Keyleth, so if she posted some RL it´d be nice. Same goes Kawaii.
Andresvmb lurks and i have habit of putting some pressure at lurkers.
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Mostly that question. It gave me vibe like he is genuinely thinking about the motivations of only Gamma being mentioned.In post 536, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Was it just for the question he asked or was there more to it?-
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Why exactly?In post 553, Hu Tao wrote:
This post makes me think either you're scum or not reading. I'm going with scum.In post 509, Naerys wrote:
I have never played with Guillotina and so they are rather difficult to get a grasp on. It could be just a playstyle thing, it could be a scum move. When i am trying to think like scum, i ask myself what could be their motivation. For example - scum!timmer could be trying to go for what he feels like easier wagon which wouldnt attract much attention.In post 384, Black wrote: VOTE: Guillotina
I think there's partner equity in Guillotina/kyouko
Guillotina said she would support a kyouko wagon but jumped off less than 30 minutes later, right after Elements and I joined. I don't think the Celebloki vote was a very good reason to suddenly end their support and having Celebloki at the bottom of their preliminary reads in 310 feels like a performative justification for voting there rather than an actual read
In both 293 and 377 they made sure to include that they weren't voting for the same reason as the person they were sheeping which feels like scum that might be trying to flaunt that their read is unique and different
I think the questions from Guillotina are like...ok, but nothing scum couldn't come up with in an attempt to seem townie, and I think the interpretation in 374 is really odd and it just feels like unnecessary shade towards Timmer
Or scum!Guillotina is trying to sow some discord between townies. Could be Hu Tao their buddy? Cant rule it out
Also it could be just being bad at expressing things.( A stuff i am personally bad at.)
It could be also town!Timmer being paranoid of Hu Tao and town!Guillotina being paranoid of Timmer. Did Gullotina say what they think wbout Hu Tao? I need to look that up.-
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What? Black was talking about GuilloIn post 558, Hu Tao wrote:
Because if you're talking about guillo, lots of their posts have been about me so for you to say you're trying to find out about if they posted about me after, doesn't add up.In post 555, Naerys wrote:
Why exactly?In post 553, Hu Tao wrote:
This post makes me think either you're scum or not reading. I'm going with scum.In post 509, Naerys wrote:
I have never played with Guillotina and so they are rather difficult to get a grasp on. It could be just a playstyle thing, it could be a scum move. When i am trying to think like scum, i ask myself what could be their motivation. For example - scum!timmer could be trying to go for what he feels like easier wagon which wouldnt attract much attention.In post 384, Black wrote: VOTE: Guillotina
I think there's partner equity in Guillotina/kyouko
Guillotina said she would support a kyouko wagon but jumped off less than 30 minutes later, right after Elements and I joined. I don't think the Celebloki vote was a very good reason to suddenly end their support and having Celebloki at the bottom of their preliminary reads in 310 feels like a performative justification for voting there rather than an actual read
In both 293 and 377 they made sure to include that they weren't voting for the same reason as the person they were sheeping which feels like scum that might be trying to flaunt that their read is unique and different
I think the questions from Guillotina are like...ok, but nothing scum couldn't come up with in an attempt to seem townie, and I think the interpretation in 374 is really odd and it just feels like unnecessary shade towards Timmer
Or scum!Guillotina is trying to sow some discord between townies. Could be Hu Tao their buddy? Cant rule it out
Also it could be just being bad at expressing things.( A stuff i am personally bad at.)
It could be also town!Timmer being paranoid of Hu Tao and town!Guillotina being paranoid of Timmer. Did Gullotina say what they think wbout Hu Tao? I need to look that up.-
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The point of it was Guillo shading Timmer for suspecting you.-
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Black? Thats interesting. Why? I personally get towny vibes from Black. They are offering good insight and are actively hunting scum. So far they feel like their town self i played with.In post 563, Keyleth wrote:
At the moment Naerys/Black!In post 552, Dunnstral wrote:
This is a weird post. Acknowledges it is based on playstyle and is very vague... it doesn't actually say or explain anything.In post 481, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: What's the basis of scum!Dunn?You caught me, that was the one read that was 80% fake
the reason for the 20% probably has to do more with his playstyle than his alignment, but I just felt his posts had a tone which doesn't feel towny to me.
Who has the lowest points on your chart?In post 515, Keyleth wrote: I think Broccoli's entrance into the thread felt very nice. I like it personally. Trying to figure out why people are wolfreading Celeb if people could give me a hand with that it'd be lovely. The person that has the lowest points on my chart seems to be TR so it is just likely I am incorrect. The pace of this game is somehow both casual in dialect and yet really hard to process.-
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Do you have any valid reason or are you just sheeping Hu?
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i kinda had lazy Sunday and today i fell asleep after i came home from work lolIn post 756, Guillotina wrote: Naerys looks a little frozen and only posts to defend themselves.
i am going to reread a bit a update my RL-
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Yeah, i did. My energy levels are always kinda low during winter season.In post 832, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:Hmmm I think Dunn's town
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Yes I have the Benjamin Button disease or somethingIn post 827, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 825, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Taking this one because 8/25 is my birthdayYou were born in two years from now???Kinda jelly nglIn post 829, Naerys wrote:
i kinda had lazy Sunday and today i fell asleep after i came home from work lolIn post 756, Guillotina wrote: Naerys looks a little frozen and only posts to defend themselves.
i am going to reread a bit a update my RLWHAT??? You fell asleep instead of playing mafia? How DARE you?-
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Oh fk off alreadyIn post 866, Hu Tao wrote:
Yes but not many actually trying to vote her out. Seems like just saying it but not doing muchIn post 860, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?In post 844, Guillotina wrote: Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?
You are sitting on me with not really decent reasoning, sniping some clever remarks and doing nothing otherwise
I am pretty tired and annoyed of this “naerys must be scum”
Yeah no i am not and you are starting to piss me off-
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I am not sure, i only played with town!you and you seem to be a bit more active but i dont think its alignment thingIn post 869, Hu Tao wrote:
So am I scum? Or am I town that's misguided?In post 867, Naerys wrote:
Oh fk off alreadyIn post 866, Hu Tao wrote:
Yes but not many actually trying to vote her out. Seems like just saying it but not doing muchIn post 860, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?In post 844, Guillotina wrote: Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?
You are sitting on me with not really decent reasoning, sniping some clever remarks and doing nothing otherwise
I am pretty tired and annoyed of this “naerys must be scum”
Yeah no i am not and you are starting to piss me off
On the other side i dont think i have seen you pushing someone like this on d1 so you could be scum.
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Maybe not, if i am wrong then sorry. Try as i might misremembering still can happen.In post 875, Hu Tao wrote: All naerys said is she's never seen me push on someone day 1. So just saying it's not accurate-
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I could hear the “no shit reply”In post 597, Random Nurse wrote:In post 504, Naerys wrote:
RN gives towny vibesIn post 359, Random Nurse wrote: Thank you. In a game of Mafia the mistrual of content is a grievous thing, and one I keep a keen eye out for.-
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You havent been on me as long as Hu Tao and i somewhat accept your reasoning. I need to be active more. I was slacking a bit and i needed to be puushed but its still frustrating. You did upset me, but not as much as Hu did.In post 889, Guillotina wrote:
How about me? Am i starting to piss you off or is it just Hu and why are we different if so?In post 867, Naerys wrote:
Oh fk off alreadyIn post 866, Hu Tao wrote:
Yes but not many actually trying to vote her out. Seems like just saying it but not doing muchIn post 860, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I feel like Naerys is actually a pretty popular suspect?In post 844, Guillotina wrote: Question to everyone, is it me or there seems to be resistance to a Naerys vote even though they have contributed a lot less than other slots like Elements or myself who got more votes on, in spite our higher activity. Why is that? What's the story?
You are sitting on me with not really decent reasoning, sniping some clever remarks and doing nothing otherwise
I am pretty tired and annoyed of this “naerys must be scum”
Yeah no i am not and you are starting to piss me off-
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I am suspicious of Hu Tao. Any differencies from their town behavior makes me wary of them.In post 890, Guillotina wrote: Im confused after this post. Do you scum read Hu's activity or not?
Plus the fact that i tend to be used as a limbait by scum.-
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Mistakes can happen. But to see if the mistake is honest or purposeful its good to look at vca and observe reactions of people.In post 891, Guillotina wrote: Is inaccuracy alignment indicative for you?
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Not really much,tbh. I dont like the way the sit on me and the way they are being vague. I wouldnt mind if Hu decided to share a RLIn post 893, Guillotina wrote: How being wrong develops your read on Hu?-
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Gamma vs Broccoli (around pages 23-26 or so)
Broccoli being DragonEater´s alt (quite the derp, man) actually makes me think this could be tvt. I know Broccoli likes to pocket people as town. Gamma´s suspicious reaction feels genuine to me.-
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In post 954, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 952, Naerys wrote: Gamma vs Broccoli (around pages 23-26 or so)
Broccoli being DragonEater´s alt (quite the derp, man) actually makes me think this could be tvt. I know Broccoli likes to pocket people as town. Gamma´s suspicious reaction feels genuine to me.I dunno who is that Dragoneater guy, but i think you confused me with him. I most definitely don't pocket anyone as either alignment, I just troll.-
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I personally dont agree with this.I get easily frustrated and then i either start yelling or do something stupid.In post 965, davesaz wrote: I don't see Naerys being towny prior to the wagon on her, and her reaction to the wagon is very different to her reaction from previous games where she was town.-
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Get well soon,CSF
Shame you are repping out-
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I will, thanks.In post 972, davesaz wrote:
If you're saying you just haven't snapped yet in this one, that could be a point.In post 967, Naerys wrote:
I personally dont agree with this.I get easily frustrated and then i either start yelling or do something stupid.In post 965, davesaz wrote: I don't see Naerys being towny prior to the wagon on her, and her reaction to the wagon is very different to her reaction from previous games where she was town.
If the lack of being proactive at questioning and pushing to determine alignments is why you're limbaity, then try to fix that. Like someone said a day or two ago if you don't want to be limmed then find someone else who should be.-
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Greetings, gob.-
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Okay so my solid TR are: Dave,Black,Broccoli,Nurse
Kyou the miller - My read isnt as solid here.I feel i disagree with their dave SR. I feel like dave is doing a decent town play here and i have to wonder what could be Kyous motivation to SR dave. On the other side my gut tells me that Kyou is trying to solve the game. So i am at null here.
Suspects: Hu Tao - Unlike Guillotina their vote on me feels off. She isnt trying to get more posts from me, she just took a comfortable seat from which she posts some witty remarks.
Kawaii - i need more from this slot
Dunn the miller-He kind of vanished, it would be neat if he posted some thoughts of his.-
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I dont believe you were hammered.In post 1019, Hu Tao wrote: I got hammered with that last vote. I was town pr. Congrats. Have fun in the game without me.-
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Just like in 2316?In post 1026, Hu Tao wrote:
I'm a doctorIn post 1023, Black wrote:In post 1018, Hu Tao wrote: Also I'm posting this for post game. Let this be the game I quote for people to stop trying to meta read me.
What's your full claim?In post 1019, Hu Tao wrote: I got hammered with that last vote. I was town pr. Congrats. Have fun in the game without me.
Though tbh i cant see a reason why scum!you would claim that.
Moving you from scum to null.-
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I am not voting you.I didnt get to that.In post 1032, Hu Tao wrote: If you can't see scum me saying that how does that just move me to null. Also why would you still be voting me if that's the case?
While i dont see any reason scum!you would claim that, i dont feel like my grasp on your play is as good as on some others. I am still too wary of you to put you to TR. Better to observe you and allow you to prove yourself then blind myself only bcz of a pr claim.-
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My recent impressions:
-Hu Tao slot will solve itself. I believe that scum cant really afford to have Hu alive for a long time. The longer Hu stays in the game, the higher chance she could save somebody. If her claim is true, ofc. If scum team has role cop/role stopper then perhaps they will let her live longer, but ultimately i believe town!Hu will be solved for us by night 3-4.
If not, then its probably scum!Tao and we will yeet her then. My conclusion is, that its more beneficial to let Hu live for now and prove herself.
About Kyou: Meta should be considered, but it also should be considered that meta can be faked. Some players are good at faking it, some players prefer to play every game in slightly different style. Kyou feels like a consistent player.
Okay but there is a comment i dont like:
I dont agree with this at all, lol. Doctor can save important PRs or strong townies, who unite town and are good at finding scum. Granted, doctors are hard to play and they need to have analytical mind, but ultimately they can be very strong. Wishing to lim potential doctor is pretty bad imo. I am putting you to my SR.In post 1211, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: but if you actually think about it is easy to see that a doctor is not very useful for town here
I´d vote you asap but idk how votes stand. Let me do some counting.-
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VOTE: kyouko
Should be e-2 if i counted right-
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Why Timmer?In post 1232, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The thing is I only think Key is scum if Kyouko is scum because the thing I latched onto is something I consider a partner tellIn post 1193, Black wrote: I'm torn between trusting kyouko and voting Gamma and trusting Gamma and voting Keyleth
Someone help
VOTE: TimmerRC
How about this instead?-
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If i dont understand something i obviously ask about it.In post 1237, Gamma Emerald wrote: Asking me what my read there is after I vote there on my own feels pretty useless tbh-
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Okay, my bad then.-
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We should try to consolidate and not jumping from wagon to a wagon.
I personally would prefer kyou flip. Willing to compromise on Celebloki.-
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You think voting out potential doctor is better?In post 1289, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think Celeboki is a good vote.-
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Thats not really helpful.In post 1299, Dunnstral wrote:
Light townread. Nothing I am confident in.In post 1293, Black wrote:
Thoughts on Key?In post 1289, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think Celeboki is a good vote.-
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And i disagree with it. Unfortunately time is ticking and this bickering is only eating at the remaining time.In post 1302, Dunnstral wrote:
I gave you my opinion.In post 1301, Naerys wrote:
Thats not really helpful.In post 1299, Dunnstral wrote:
Light townread. Nothing I am confident in.In post 1293, Black wrote:
Thoughts on Key?In post 1289, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think Celeboki is a good vote.-
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