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Why was I not sent a pm that this game had started.
In other news, lets policy lynch Yates!
vote:YatesOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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it means Yates is scum and his buddies are scrambling for a counter wagon.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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thisIn post 51, ZZZX wrote:In post 50, Yates wrote:
Oh. I guess the "JK! LOL!!!" is in invisible text, then. Probably why it just went zooming over my head. I mean, I would have no reason to think you were being serious, right? And I would have no reason to think you are trying to fabricate sticking to your meta, right? My bad.In post 41, Nero Cain wrote:Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...
Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?
I actually kinda agree with Vezok here. Umbrage calling Yates town is
Why is Yates town Umbrage?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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thisIn post 51, ZZZX wrote:In post 50, Yates wrote:
Oh. I guess the "JK! LOL!!!" is in invisible text, then. Probably why it just went zooming over my head. I mean, I would have no reason to think you were being serious, right? And I would have no reason to think you are trying to fabricate sticking to your meta, right? My bad.In post 41, Nero Cain wrote:Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...
Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?
I actually kinda agree with Vezok here. Umbrage calling Yates town is
Why is Yates town Umbrage?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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So where is your vote on the over reacting dude?In post 62, ZZZX wrote:
Not really, I think pushing a wagon on the over reacting dude will give us more info no?In post 61, Chandra Nalaar wrote:That's an antitown decisionOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Are you an Arc Angel alt?In post 69, Chandra Nalaar wrote:So what? Why am I supposed to switch now?
Also, I did not choose Bulbafenix at random.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What's wrong with Angel?In post 74, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
Frankly I'm somewhat insulted by this comparison >.>In post 71, Nero Cain wrote:
Are you an Arc Angel alt?In post 69, Chandra Nalaar wrote:So what? Why am I supposed to switch now?
Also, I did not choose Bulbafenix at random.
the bolded seems to imply that you think overreacts are only scummy later on in the game...what is the difference between an early overreaction on a late one?In post 76, Umbrage wrote:
because overreacting isn't a scum tellIn post 57, Nero Cain wrote:
thisIn post 51, ZZZX wrote:In post 50, Yates wrote:
Oh. I guess the "JK! LOL!!!" is in invisible text, then. Probably why it just went zooming over my head. I mean, I would have no reason to think you were being serious, right? And I would have no reason to think you are trying to fabricate sticking to your meta, right? My bad.In post 41, Nero Cain wrote:Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...
Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?
I actually kinda agree with Vezok here. Umbrage calling Yates town is
Why is Yates town Umbrage?this early in the game, and because when scum are passive-aggressive they're usually a lot more subtle
ummm no. My vote on you was an RVS bandwagon hop on you, my 37 was a totes joke. The fact you think I was being serious and that I was fake scumreading you is suchIn post 79, Yates wrote:
I'm chill. Nero and I have a frustrating history. To me, his vote is less RVS and more a needle. In a moment of honesty, I'm p-sure he'd admit as much. He pretends to scum read certain players in EVERY game and it gets exhausting for us.In post 51, ZZZX wrote:Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?
OR - he is trying to throw me off by using exactly the same meta here as in other games - which raises non-RVS suspicions for me. As in, people have asimilarapproach to games when they are the same alignment and that's where "meta" comes from, right? But you take notice when someone is not just posting similar butexactly the same. That's where I'm at with Nero. And it makes it hard for me to get an honest read on him - which is probably his intent.
I hope to God that Josh_B has a post restriction 'cause that shit is annoying as hell.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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though to be fair, I guess I was sorta antagonizing him but that fake scum read junk is so stupid.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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This is an ongoing game and you shouldn't allude to it, however, its not like I'm the first player in history to find certain players/playstyles scummy. For instance, all of Nacho, PA, Titus and MOI (when he was playing here) ALWAYS read me as scum. But you are making it out like just "fake scumread" people for the hell of it and I don't. Are you trying to discredit me here?In post 83, Yates wrote:
You see why it looked like a troll given the conversation we VERY recently had about how you scum read certain players [myself being one of them] in every game?In post 81, Nero Cain wrote:my 37 was a totes joke.
In THIS game, I thought it would be funny to vote you and jokingly push on you (#37). You trying to claim that I was scum reading you and then pushing back on me DOES make me feel a little uneasy especially given that 37 made absolutely fuck all sense.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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This is an ongoing game and you shouldn't allude to it, however, its not like I'm the first player in history to find certain players/playstyles scummy. For instance, all of Nacho, PA, Titus and MOI (when he was playing here) ALWAYS read me as scum. But you are making it out like just "fake scumread" people for the hell of it and I don't. Are you trying to discredit me here?In post 83, Yates wrote:
You see why it looked like a troll given the conversation we VERY recently had about how you scum read certain players [myself being one of them] in every game?In post 81, Nero Cain wrote:my 37 was a totes joke.
In THIS game, I thought it would be funny to vote you and jokingly push on you (#37). You trying to claim that I was scum reading you and then pushing back on me DOES make me feel a little uneasy especially given that 37 made absolutely fuck all sense.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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naw, he's scum and doesn't want to ruffle any tail feathers (c what I did there?)In post 86, jklash12 wrote:
Hi pidgey. Are you gonna do an RVS vote or nah?In post 63, pidgey wrote:helo?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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but I actually do think he could be scum since it feels like his not town entrances but I said it in a humorous way and I'm glad that SOMEONE has a sense of humor.
*glares at yates*Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Its my computer. My posts are so good that the computer double posts. (SRS answer; it IS the computer. Its been doing this since I got it and I'm not tech saavy enought to know what is wrong. I ran virus scan but it didn't pick up anything so meh.)In post 94, beastcharizard wrote:Nero, how do you always manage to double post? Are you click happy? Who do you think is scum? You normally get it right D1 IIRC so I am fine with sheeping you right now. You are probably the person I trust the most because of that FE game.
ZZZX's 58 was pretty silly.
Pidgey's entrance to the game was p lame.
I still don't care for Yate's reaction.
Squirell is being uncharacteristically quiet.
Umbrage's stance that Yates overreacting in the early game and therefore town is mind boggingly dumb.
So prob some scum there.
Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.In post 95, Josh_B wrote:Sheeping is convenient. -for scum. How about I promise to vote exactly opposite on every one that you vote for except for the times that I come to the conclusion on my own that I should vote on the same person that you are voting for. And even then, it will be voting in opposition.
Could be, I know I have him on my watch list but I've seen town do this before but then again I've seen some of the strangest "town" play these past few years.In post 98, pappums rat wrote: I dont like this series of posts:
Forgetting to vote? Ehhh... Someone who was serious about this scumread would not be "forgetting" to vote, it sounds to me like he is making this up.In post 65, ZZZX wrote:
Ops forgotIn post 64, Nero Cain wrote:
So where is your vote on the over reacting dude?In post 62, ZZZX wrote:
Not really, I think pushing a wagon on the over reacting dude will give us more info no?In post 61, Chandra Nalaar wrote:That's an antitown decision
Vote Yates
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cool beans. Now talk about the game.
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ummm what?In post 112, beastcharizard wrote:Also, the quote of you saying oops forget and then voting. That IMPLIES you had a scum read because you said you FORGOT to vote them. I don't vote my town reads, do you? Sure you can try to get info but saying you forgot to vote is where all the scumminess comes in for me.
I don't really get how Yates looks town. I guess thinking about it mmmmaaaayyybbbe I could understand him being frustrated 'cause me and Squirrel had a similar incident. But I mean, I think it was pretty obvious I was joking but him taking it SRS and then pushing back and accusing me of fake scum reading him is just...makes me want to pour bleach in my eyes so I don't have to read him.In post 115, mozamis wrote:
Yeah, I agree with this. Yates defintely looks town. My only reservation about Nero is that he looked super town in "Always Sunny", and in fact was scum. However, in that he was far more serious. His jokey policy lynch looks pretty relaxed and town.In post 54, Umbrage wrote:also Yates/Nero is obv town on town
Also DGB handled the majority of the posting in Sunny.
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In our last game you seemed sorta spammy. Talk to me about Yates and Piggey.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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While I don't exactly find Pid pr0-town, this was a totes fucking joke. A you/yates team would be funny 'cause I you two have no sense of humor.In post 128, Umbrage wrote:
surprised nobody's commented on how scummy it is for someone to put this much work into a shitty RVS voteIn post 103, pidgey wrote:uh rvs post?
vote: Charizard dude player
Ok so, why charizard?
1. First of he is a fucking DRAGON.
2. Second, he is confirmed for smash 4, and im not even there in a pokeball or much less a fucking cameo in the background (still negotiating for a trophy... fingers crossed)
3. He has base stat of like 510, i probably dont have more than 340.
4. Majestic wings that i want
5. Pidgeot has no mega evolutionOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Don't really like the pushing back and being a dick with the bolded. I both hate math at suck at it so I won't even attempt to try it but, I felt you were really active with a lot of content. Here, I didn't get that vibe but that could be just 'cause it was early and there wasn't much to post about.In post 140, Squirrel Girl wrote:
How did I seem spammy? In this game, at the point you called me out, I had 10 posts in 3 days. Last game we played together I took 8 days to get 10 posts. Looking at my habits I appear to post, on average, about 2-3 comments a day unless I get into something. That is all exactly in line with what I'm doing here. So, again, where are you getting this vibe from,a ndIn post 134, Nero Cain wrote:In our last game you seemed sorta spammy. Talk to me about Yates and Piggey.is there any actual value in it in your opinion?Or is it a fake presentation you're pushing on me?
I don't particularly have any read on Yates or Pidgey. I would call them both null. I don't agree with the scum case on Yates, but I don't think he's done anything townish either. I don't have much of anything to off Pidgey on, but will admit to a slight gut townish on him moreso than Yates simply because he appears to be trying to scumhunt right out the gate which Yates did not. I would neithe rparticularly support nor oppose either being lynched at this stage.
What's your read on those two, and what would you like to talk about?
Also, what's your read on Mozamis?
Pid and Yates are both leaning scum for me. I think Pid's entrance was pretty low key and trying to hang below the radar. I've already discussed Yates but I mean, I guess I can understand him being annoyed (since I can kinda see a similarity between what I'm doing and what you did to me in BoS) but that "I'm scumhunting by attacking my RVSer" is pretty dumb.
I don't really have a scumread on Moz. I guess he could go "hey guys, Nero was super pro-town in Sunny and he was SCUM!" In an attempt to keep me lynchable but I don't really see anything else. What am I missing?
I would ask you about who you want dead other than Moz but I see you are helping me kill Yates. Anyone else you have a scumread on?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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the only person that thinks she's scum is Yates and umbrageOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 186, TheUnderachivers wrote:So instead of making things clear (I'm pretty sure your only "scum" reads are my and Squirrel despite not voting any of us) you got go tell folks to read your posts.
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@Yates-Well see, despite the fact that your sole scumreads are on your attackers. As if that's not pathetic enough. A vote is more telling than words. I also think there's a lot of scum motivation in not joining a wagon unless it gains traction and neither me and SG are getting lynched so what's your motivation for not voting?
Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I DO have an organic farm on my balcony!In post 198, Josh_B wrote:In post 100, Nero Cain wrote:
Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.In post 95, Josh_B wrote:Sheeping is convenient. -for scum. How about I promise to vote exactly opposite on every one that you vote for except for the times that I come to the conclusion on my own that I should vote on the same person that you are voting for. And even then, it will be voting in opposition.
Baah! Why did he pick you? Are you a farmer that I've never heard of before?
The reason he picked me I suppose is that in the gme we played together I had scum reads on like 2 or 3 of the scum. Of course he COULD be buddying me but I kinda think he's being honest 'cause in that same game he pretty much sheeped TSO.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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that's the town Pid that I'm familiar withOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I guess he could fabricate his town meta. Do you have a scum read on him?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Do you still have a scumread on Moz?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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His reads really stunk that game and mine were ok...so.....in the next game he is all like "ok well I'm just going to sheep someone that's a decent scumhunter" That seems like a pretty mature stance to me unless you believe that he's scum buddying me for town cred.In post 224, UnfriendlyNeighbors wrote:
How is it mature?Nero wrote:Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.
The meta that I associate with him being town is that he fusses and cusses and overreacts which is why I called his intro low key and not town like.In post 227, UnfriendlyNeighbors wrote:
If his town meta is going out on a Saturday night then yes, I'm sure he canIn post 210, Nero Cain wrote:I guess he could fabricate his town meta. Do you have a scum read on him?
k y?In post 228, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Yeppers!In post 212, Nero Cain wrote:Do you still have a scumread on Moz?
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yes, I was you to clarify what you were saying in 112.In post 245, beastcharizard wrote:Nero, are you talking about your umm what question in post like 131 or something? I fail to see a question somewhere.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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yes, I was you to clarify what you were saying in 112.In post 245, beastcharizard wrote:Nero, are you talking about your umm what question in post like 131 or something? I fail to see a question somewhere.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Actually yes. There's a lot of scum motivation to not vote. I looked a lil' bit at 2.5 men and you had a semi serious pl vote on Monkeyman. Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey? Though at the same time I had actually accused you of being scum for not voting your scumreads so maybe I'm wrong again.In post 247, Yates wrote:
So? Are you concerned that I'm not aware of my vote? We are 10 pages in to a large theme game that is 4 days old with more than 17 1/2 days left. Does it surprise you that I may need as many as 5 days to place a serious vote?In post 195, Nero Cain wrote:Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.
I'm with SQ here, unless I'm reading this wrong here:In the mean time - while my vote is parked on my RVS choice - I used my early posts to probe suspicious activity and have just clearly illustrated anomalous activity. Given what Squirrel has said, how I have played, how pidgey has played, and what pidgey has said; what do you think about the path I'm pursuing with Squirrel?
Pid calls Displaced scum in 125 and then clarifies why he was scum reading him in 136
SG says Pid was scumhunting right out of the gate in 140
In 142 you say that he wasn't scumhunting
You quote his first 4 posts
She accuses you of cherry picking
You say that you weren'y cherry picking 'cause she said he was hunting right out of the gate-I think you are being massively anal here
though she IS wrong hereIn post 171, Squirrel Girl wrote:Post 135 is scumhunting - he is presenting a stance and seeking reactions.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Actually yes. There's a lot of scum motivation to not vote. I looked a lil' bit at 2.5 men and you had a semi serious pl vote on Monkeyman. Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey? Though at the same time I had actually accused you of being scum for not voting your scumreads so maybe I'm wrong again.In post 247, Yates wrote:
So? Are you concerned that I'm not aware of my vote? We are 10 pages in to a large theme game that is 4 days old with more than 17 1/2 days left. Does it surprise you that I may need as many as 5 days to place a serious vote?In post 195, Nero Cain wrote:Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.
I'm with SQ here, unless I'm reading this wrong here:In the mean time - while my vote is parked on my RVS choice - I used my early posts to probe suspicious activity and have just clearly illustrated anomalous activity. Given what Squirrel has said, how I have played, how pidgey has played, and what pidgey has said; what do you think about the path I'm pursuing with Squirrel?
Pid calls Displaced scum in 125 and then clarifies why he was scum reading him in 136
SG says Pid was scumhunting right out of the gate in 140
In 142 you say that he wasn't scumhunting
You quote his first 4 posts
She accuses you of cherry picking
You say that you weren'y cherry picking 'cause she said he was hunting right out of the gate-I think you are being massively anal here
though she IS wrong hereIn post 171, Squirrel Girl wrote:Post 135 is scumhunting - he is presenting a stance and seeking reactions.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Actually yes. There's a lot of scum motivation to not vote. I looked a lil' bit at 2.5 men and you had a semi serious pl vote on Monkeyman. Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey? Though at the same time I had actually accused you of being scum for not voting your scumreads so maybe I'm wrong again.In post 247, Yates wrote:
So? Are you concerned that I'm not aware of my vote? We are 10 pages in to a large theme game that is 4 days old with more than 17 1/2 days left. Does it surprise you that I may need as many as 5 days to place a serious vote?In post 195, Nero Cain wrote:Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.
I'm with SQ here, unless I'm reading this wrong here:In the mean time - while my vote is parked on my RVS choice - I used my early posts to probe suspicious activity and have just clearly illustrated anomalous activity. Given what Squirrel has said, how I have played, how pidgey has played, and what pidgey has said; what do you think about the path I'm pursuing with Squirrel?
Pid calls Displaced scum in 125 and then clarifies why he was scum reading him in 136
SG says Pid was scumhunting right out of the gate in 140
In 142 you say that he wasn't scumhunting
You quote his first 4 posts
She accuses you of cherry picking
You say that you weren'y cherry picking 'cause she said he was hunting right out of the gate-I think you are being massively anal here
though she IS wrong hereIn post 171, Squirrel Girl wrote:Post 135 is scumhunting - he is presenting a stance and seeking reactions.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I am very wary of this post.....In post 257, pappums rat wrote:Lets not. The pissing matches between you and Yates and Nero and Yates are primarily semantic and definition-based in your case and meta-based in Nero's. All this is doing is cluttering the thread with garbage posts and takes away from actual scumhunting. And there are people doing actually scummy things in this game, so attention would be better placed on scumhunting rather than trying to boost your own egos.
there is no pissing contest and there is no ego in play except maybe Yates
@the ruffling-read on me and SG noa
I've read and reead this a few times now...In post 260, beastcharizard wrote:For Nero:
ZZZX was saying they were voting for info and not because they thought the person was scum. At least that is what I got from their explanation. I didn't agree with this so I was saying someone doesn't vote a town read for info they only should vote scum reads/null. That is what I found odd about what they did. The fact that didn't say they had a scum read but rather the vote was purely for info.
In 62 ZZZX says he thinks a push on Yates would get more info.
he forgets to vote and then votes in 65
P rat says you (him) wouldn't forget to vote on a scumread
In 98 he says that he didn't have a scumread on Yates but wanted info?
kinda fence sits on him in 246, then is kinda like well "I was being told to vote!"
So I think his explanation makes some sense here. Info/pressure votes are a thing. Are you honestly telling me that you've never seen/heard of this?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Well, in that game we played he was a vig and let TSO decide his vig shots so maybe he buddies like crazy regardless of alignment but...you know what? He's not even sheeping me! I could buy some "I'm going to play to Nero's ego" and then not sheep when he gets called out on budding me.In post 275, UnfriendlyNeighbors wrote:
Not really sure what to make of it, but I could just as easily see it being scum hiding behind someone they're familiar with and buddying, rather than writing it off as town so early on.In post 241, Nero Cain wrote: His reads really stunk that game and mine were ok...so.....in the next game he is all like "ok well I'm just going to sheep someone that's a decent scumhunter" That seems like a pretty mature stance to me unless you believe that he's scum buddying me for town cred.
I'm sure he could. What is your read on him?
Yeah, I was being a a bit snarkastic there.In post 241, Nero Cain wrote:
The meta that I associate with him being town is that he fusses and cusses and overreacts which is why I called his intro low key and not town like.In post 227, UnfriendlyNeighbors wrote:
If his town meta is going out on a Saturday night then yes, I'm sure he canIn post 210, Nero Cain wrote:I guess he could fabricate his town meta. Do you have a scum read on him?
But you don't think pidgey could copy his town meta by throwing an overreaction and some F bombs around?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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maybe 'cause monkeyman isn't in this game. holy fucking derp.In post 274, Nero Cain wrote:Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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maybe 'cause monkeyman isn't in this game. holy fucking derp.In post 274, Nero Cain wrote:Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Yes, I think Pid was hunting. If you didn't think Pid was scumhunting why haven't you called Pid out and why did you call 2 of his posts scumhunting? I'm again with SG here, I think Pid misread/misinterpreted here. She said that Pid was scumhunting not that he was a super scumhunter. I don't think you've been hunting at all, all of your posts have been reactionary and pushing back on anyone that suspects you.In post 286, Yates wrote:Perhaps. Let's take a different approach. Do you feel like Pidgey was scum hunting in those first 8 posts? I don't think he was, my interpretation of Pidgey's post is that he didn't think he was, but what do YOU think? Also, do you feel like I was NOT scum hunting in my first 6 posts? I think I was, but of course I have the benefit of knowing why I go in the direction I go so maybe my scum hunting isn't obvious to everyone else? What do YOU think?
Pid, what do you think of Yates accusing you of fake scumhunting?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Yes, I think Pid was hunting. If you didn't think Pid was scumhunting why haven't you called Pid out and why did you call 2 of his posts scumhunting? I'm again with SG here, I think Pid misread/misinterpreted here. She said that Pid was scumhunting not that he was a super scumhunter. I don't think you've been hunting at all, all of your posts have been reactionary and pushing back on anyone that suspects you.In post 286, Yates wrote:Perhaps. Let's take a different approach. Do you feel like Pidgey was scum hunting in those first 8 posts? I don't think he was, my interpretation of Pidgey's post is that he didn't think he was, but what do YOU think? Also, do you feel like I was NOT scum hunting in my first 6 posts? I think I was, but of course I have the benefit of knowing why I go in the direction I go so maybe my scum hunting isn't obvious to everyone else? What do YOU think?
Pid, what do you think of Yates accusing you of fake scumhunting?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 311, TheUnderachivers wrote:I don't see a difference between Pid isn't scumhunting and no I don't think he's fake scum hunting 'cause if you think that Pid's attack on Displaced was not scumhunting then it would have to be fake?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 321, TheUnderachivers wrote:
No one said this. We (me and SG) are saying that you started scumhunting Displaced.In post 313, pidgey wrote:This is fucking retarded, but i guess i can fucking put my 2 cents?
1.- I dont think i scum hunted on my first 4 posts.
As a matter of fact, im pretty sure i was drunk and having fun.
and then Yates is all like "no he hasn't been scumhunting" wich...I...I...just don't get 'cause how you you hold that something is not scumhunting but not fake?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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yeah...I never said anything like that.In post 319, pidgey wrote:Oh and just saw nero's posts, saying i FAKE SCUM HUNTED is an outright lie. I RVS shit posted, and i gave like 3 senteces of reads, but that wasnt fake at all.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Maybe I was originally right about Pid. He's misrepping like crazy here.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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This sounds very much like you saying that I said you were fake scumhunting.In post 319, pidgey wrote:Oh and just saw nero's posts, saying i FAKE SCUM HUNTED is an outright lie. I RVS shit posted, and i gave like 3 senteces of reads, but that wasnt fake at all.
Yates IS saying that you were not scumhunting but to me you were unless you were being dishonest about your Displaced read so if Yates holds that you were not scumhunting while calling Displaced scum he's saying that you were being dishonest and therefore your read is fake. Yet he says its not fake hunting but its not scumhunting? IDFK. God I wish I had bullets.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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And I don't see any difference between "not hunting" and "fake hunting" 'cause if one is not hunting but obviously calling someone scum then that would be fake.In post 328, pidgey wrote:Yates are you saying im fake hunting in those first 7 posts, not counting the obviously charizard part? Or not hunting?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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And I don't see any difference between "not hunting" and "fake hunting" 'cause if one is not hunting but obviously calling someone scum then that would be fake.In post 328, pidgey wrote:Yates are you saying im fake hunting in those first 7 posts, not counting the obviously charizard part? Or not hunting?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Also, I didn't know you were ESL, where are you from Pid?
Do you really have a scumread on Displaced?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Questioning obvious bullshit is one thing, but me nor SG didn't post any shit. I made a joke about pling you and then joked about how they weren't wagoning you and that meant you were scum. You got all whiney about it and accused me of trying to be meta or whatever dumb shit you said. As far as SG goes, you were wrong and your continuing to argue despite being wrong is really anti-town (if you are town). So if you are town you need to stop it or eat rope today.In post 352, Yates wrote:
Also, YOU accused me of not scumhunting. Though you clearly recognize that there is scumhunting inherent in defending yourself or challenging the logic/motivation. At least, you think that when people accuse YOU of not scumhunting in games where you are sussing out your attacker. *shrug*In post 351, Yates wrote:
SG accused me of not scumhunting.In post 349, Nero Cain wrote:What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?
Pushing back is null 'cause both alignments do it and having scum reads on your attackers and/or a limited few often comes from scum.
1. SG hasn't called Pid town.In post 353, The Rufflig wrote:
I liked Squirrel Girl up to the point that she started calling pidgey townie based of the same set of posts that I feel make pidgey scummy. However, I'm putting SG into the category of mistaken townie rather than skimming scum presently.In post 278, Nero Cain wrote:@the ruffling-read on me and SG noa
I have a similar feeling towards you, Nero. Your read on pidgey is wrong. Your assessment of SG's argument for pidgey being town is also wrong. I don't see how either of you can take a hard look at pidgey's shifting case and come up with a town reading off it. I'm a little more confident in thinking that you are town.
2. Why is SG mistaken town than scum presenting wrong facts?
3. Short of claiming scum with Pid, why am I wrong?
4. His case isn't shiftingOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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FIFY!In post 370, UniversalSlutBus wrote: Yates is stubborn. Squirrel Girl is town, and is right.
And what's the difference between being opportunistic in a small and a large?In post 386, Yates wrote: But does that make them scummy in a large game?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Pid wagon is crap, either Yates or Ruffling are my preferred lynches.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 458, TheUnderachivers wrote:
Seems kinda fence sitter, man.In post 426, Yates wrote:
I don't know either of them. What I do know is some players get overwhelmed in a game this size and will do something "opportunistic" as an excuse to place a vote. If anyone had meta on either of these clowns, that would be better than assuming they are Monkey or AA9 alts...In post 423, Nero Cain wrote:And what's the difference between being opportunistic in a small and a large?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 458, TheUnderachivers wrote:
Seems kinda fence sitter, man.In post 426, Yates wrote:
I don't know either of them. What I do know is some players get overwhelmed in a game this size and will do something "opportunistic" as an excuse to place a vote. If anyone had meta on either of these clowns, that would be better than assuming they are Monkey or AA9 alts...In post 423, Nero Cain wrote:And what's the difference between being opportunistic in a small and a large?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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vote:the rufflingOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Did Ruffling town it up lately or something?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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don't really like the hop without being fully caught up.In post 477, Aronis wrote:VOTE: Rufflig
After reading through some of the game, I don't like him. I'll try to finish catching up later.
I was liking Josh but on p. 20 and him questioning weather this game has fake claims makes me very very very uneasy 'cause new scum tend to do that often. I need to ISO him and see what exactly it was that I liked.
This is horrible too.In post 487, BulbaFenix wrote:
I'm sorry, but no... A mod isn't going to go out of their way to give the mafia a 'fighting chance' by giving them ALL a character role to claim. UNLESS, it is ROLE specific, something in this game like Mystique I could see getting a role that calls for that. Other than that, no. If EVERYONE mass claimed day one, it then comes down to, 'ok, who's claim is believe-able'? After that, you give the MAFIA the advantage by leaping up and going, 'I got *insert character here*. 'But, that's my character! (another poster)' and it then becomes a truth/chaotic war where the town can devour itself while the mafia drink in the chaos.In post 484, Chandra Nalaar wrote:It's not an advantage, it's a fighting chance. What if we decided to all claim our rolenames on Day 1, and someone asked scum player X to go first. He has no choice but to pick something out of a hat and potentially dies right then and there for no good reason. It's what's done. The only point of flavor is to be flavor. Any game breakable by mass flavor claim wouldn't pass the review process.
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how the hell do you have a town read on ruffling?In post 577, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Null, town, town.In post 575, Josh_B wrote:OK. How do you feel about KidA, chandra and ruffligOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Just quickly, everyone poo-pooing the Aronis kill as a bad kill is either dumb or scum.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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This is my bad. He was just confused.In post 592, Chandra Nalaar wrote:@Nero: You didn't think the length of time he spent confused rang a bit town? Also, I'm not particularly aware of new scum doing that?
I don't really get this. Pid was the main focus of Yates vs. SG with Yates saying that Pid wasn't scum hunting. If Pid was scum do you really think he'd ignore me asking him about this?In post 605, UnfriendlyNeighbors wrote:
Probably not. Why would scum-pidgey get involved in this fuck show that's occuring, instead of just letting it play out around him?In post 325, Nero Cain wrote:Maybe I was originally right about Pid. He's misrepping like crazy here.
Why are you being ambiguous here? You "moved on" to "spare this game more BS"? If you think she's scum then I don't see why you'd "move on" but if you "moved on" 'cause you decided that it was TvT then why say "possibly" here?In post 608, Yates wrote:
Possibly. I'm in the Town faction so if SG is in a different faction then what you are saying here makes perfect sense.In post 602, Josh_B wrote:It makes me feel like the Yate's/SG war was Faction on Faction
Also fake claims are super common in themes so you going "THIS IS JASON MOD META!" is head desk.
Mainly 'cause I suspected Aronis and I was wrong but I don't think it was stupid of me to suspect Aronis. The guy had shit all for content and he "hoped" onto a SRS bandwagon without being caught up which seems like scum motivation. Though he was ALREADY voting Ruf but I didn't realize that till an ISO.In post 643, ThAdmiral wrote:
Why is this?In post 634, Nero Cain wrote:Just quickly, everyone poo-pooing the Aronis kill as a bad kill is either dumb or scum.
Dude,there are town daykillers.In post 666, PeregrineV wrote:
No.In post 612, beastcharizard wrote:
Are all Daykillers town sided? I have never been in a game with one and at first I thought it was a modkill.In post 607, vezokpiraka wrote:Why the fuck did someone shoot aronis now.
There were so many better targets.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Nero Cain Survivor
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In 2.5 men weren't you telling us to wait on a shot until we had night info?In post 687, Yates wrote:
Ok. So you understand now how your shot would be more useful towards the end of the day - especially as we acquire Town consensus?In post 686, jklash12 wrote:I have never had a day time kill before and got a little jumpyOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Nero Cain Survivor
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trading a serial lurker for a serial lurker!!!Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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