Touhou UPick 2 - [Game Over]
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where are you at with reads atmspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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so gaiden, RB, victor, axxle? purely poe or do you have scum read/s on anyone here?gif wrote:so scum are probably in leftovers
i wanna put an end to this now, because i'm pretty sick of seeing this stuff and i have a feeling it could happen a bit in this gamenotscience wrote:Do you really think that town has 2 roles that can determine flavor like that? Pie's passive let him see what cards are used during a night. For someone who knows flavor, he can equate cards to characters. GIF's role tells him all the characters.
You think town has 2 roles like that?
you're asking whether it's possible for two roles that don't necessarily conflict to be town here. there's a flipped cop who claimed two investigative abilities and a claimed day cop. obviously some shit is going on in this game, and fakegod loves doing this sort of role overlap stuff
last viscon game i played, town spent a majority of the game in-fighting because there were so many role overlaps and people couldn't see them as all being town (4 roleblockers who shared a QT and a passive-reflexive-roleblocker, 2 lover pairs who shared a QT, 2 docs - one a doc/vig/lover and the other a regular doc... all of these were town and most of these roles were red herrings because both scum were strongman). i spent the entire last part of the game trying to mediate fights about overlapping roles. i'm not particularly interested in having to do this again. GIF could be scum, but try not to get too bogged down in "omg role overlaps"
(side note: iirc it almost happened in the first upick, too, because sakura - i think? - mentioned paranoia about me when both nati and i had claimed investigation immunity roles - i died before it became an issue but *shrug*)
this is a fakegod role madness game. overlaps are not uncommon. not all of the overlaps are necessarily going to be town-town, but overlaps don't mean shit here
as for the case on gif,
this is part of the reason why i had a scum read on gif for a while D1. i felt like he wasn't trying to make any waves and was kinda just drifting with the flow. not making enemies of anyone, not carrying any sort of controversial opinions, just sort of being there. it reminded me of something someone said about my own scum play in NY169 where it apparently looked like i was trying to be everyone's friend and coast.notscience wrote:1) He hadn't taken a strong stance on anyone for like the last third of D1. He has expressed townreads on pretty much everyone while the last time he expressed scumreads or even a PoE list was early D1. When lynches were being organized on BM and TNE, he didn't really take firm stances. He'd comment here or there but there was never really that pursuit that should come.
i started thinking gif-town after the emotional reaction he had to people continually pushing for more information about his spellcard. i could see him possibly getting upset about it in maybe a similar way as scum, but it felt like it was more of a "fuck you guys, i was doing it with the best intentions and you had to go ruin it" sort of thing. i am aware he never followed up on the whole "scum were pushing it" thing but i chalked that up mostly to the fact he was V/LA for the majority of D1 (tl;dr i disagree with point 1.b)
point 1.a i'm kind of meh on. a lot of the time when i ask questions, i'm not looking to follow up on it immediately. often i make a mental note of things and come back to it at a later point if i deem it necessary.
point 3 i'm also kind of meh on. i'm not sure whether fakegod would include a role like gif's as a town role, but the stuff about scum fake-claims i have my own theory on. the tl;dr of it is i can see scum having role names which won't implicate them in any way, and the fact that there are also town role names which don't accurately describe roles (i.e. my own, but others have claimed it's the same for them) makes me think that, if gif is town, role cop is essentially a red herring
rest of the points i actually think are decent. i wanna see what gif says herespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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also i really don't like 1632spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i dunno. it's either a scum role (though i doubt scum would target gaiden with an ability like that), or a town role who's keeping it hidden for some reason (and really, they should claim that) or he's lying through his teeth.notscience wrote:What do you think of Gaiden's claiming to have lost all his spell cards?
the latter two seem far more likely than the first.spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i think the logic is actually you should be pushing whoever you're suspicious of rather than hoping a somewhat ambiguous night action is going to make things black and whitespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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also would like to see an answer to this unless you literally cannot talk about it in which casenotscience wrote:2) What made it stale?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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he's not a town read
do you think he's town? closest i've seen to you giving a read on him is recently stating he's doing something he does as town (by claiming that his spell cards were nuked and claiming his role name after asking why others were claiming role names)spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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he's a gaiden read - the only time i've ever felt confident~ish about a read on gaiden is the first upick game, when he was actually active and open and (dare i say it) _looked town_
and i don't know why you think he'd keep it hidden as scum. he'd know a town player destroyed his cards and would be looking to see his reactions to itspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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the fact that i can find reasons to call most other players in the game town but i can't find anything that really makes me think gaiden is town is the biggest issue i have with him atm (i.e. essentially poe)spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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did this happen pregame or N1? who initiated this?varsoon wrote:90%. He's been genuine in our QT, shared role information that he wouldn't share if he was scum, and we have role synergy that wouldn't make much sense across the alignment divide
. . . . .varsoon wrote:I'm sticking with my vote on NS. I feel like the pie/NS case (reeks of pie in 1626) is pushing too hard on setup spec and presenting GiF as slippery. It's a big wall, but it feels conf-biased and too willing to hit unreliable notes that'll ring well with this town's meta with GiF and Notsci.
you think notscience is scummy because he's pushing/agrees with a case pieguy wrote?
sarcasm?notscience wrote:That last post gives me townfeelsspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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right, but if you know what your ability does, then obviously he can't hide it or he'd be obvscum sooooooo *shrug*notscience wrote:No
I hadn't claimed the fact it destroyed all cards but one yet
I was going to see what he did, if he admitted he had one card left. If he kept it hidden, he was scum hiding a trump card
eh, it depends on (a) who's scum with him and (b) whether they were looking close enough for it. i mean i know you were dropping hints everywhere but there are only a few people in the game who would actually look for those hints or pick up on them and they either already know everyone's flavour or are dead for the most part (funnily, last upick the scum team was convinced i was reisen for dropping what was actually a tewi crumb and using the word "lunatic")kagami wrote:Not only would he have to not have noticed it (which he wouldn't, it's gaiden), but his scumbuddies would also have to have not noticed/mentioned it, and it would also imply that neither muffin nor GIF are gaiden-buddies
kagami wrote:Muffin - I just don't see scum muffin here, but this is as high as he's allowed to goSpoiler:spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i... really don't understand if people are being serious with this or pretending to be densespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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actually, notscience, what does the ability you used on gaiden _actually_ do and what would your target be told? because i'm going back over it now and trying to figure out how, if he only had 2 spell cards, he knew you destroyed all of them but one. why wouldn't he assume your ability just destroyed one card?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i have read what notscience wrote and read this like 5 times now and i am still struggling to see how you leapt to that conclusionbork wrote:I just don't see the situation where gaiden guessed that not-scumbuddy ns was going to reaction test for 1 spellcard left available and decided to knowingly lie and then redact before ns even reacted to it to manipulate ns and buy towncred that he wasn't at all sure he'd get.spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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hey gaiden,
why did you say all your spellcards were destroyed?
and if you thought scum were the one who did it (and everything you said suggests this is the case) what's your opinion on ns?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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this is me reading your post, gaiden
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walk me through why you thought scum would use an ability on you, see you lie about the effects, and then out themselves... because you were lying about it. walk me through how you thought this would work out if scum DID actually do this and you got lynched purely because you WERE actually lying about it
it's pretty obvious why notscience is pushing gif over you (i mean, he quite literally said pie's last will was to not let gif get away). he was also calling you scum, though, and asking for opinions on your spellcards-nuked stuff, though
also if you believe notscience is capable of impersonating pieguy like that, then wowspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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also this just makes me interested in what card gaiden chose to save if he discarded the rolecop card prior to the discussions todaynotscience wrote:He gets to pick a card to save
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so that's literally as far as you thought it through, and you did not consider what would happen if someone did happen to claim they knew you were lying, or why scum would even admit to it in the first place?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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by that logic, every vig that shoots someone who isn't confirmed scum is scumvezok wrote:Ns still scum. Why would you destroy all spellcards of someone you aren't sure is scum and also claimed a rolecop?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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he substituted the word scum with they... it is essentially no different to him saying "scum nuked my cards"
do you think his explanation makes sense?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i don't think varsoon could scum hunt his way out of a paper bag, so i take everything he says with a grain of salt
and treating vezok's suspicions like they're ICs seems to be a pretty good strategy. pretty sure the game could be broken by asking vezok for three scum players and just never lynching themspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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victor has killed the town read i had on feireispiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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im entertaining the idea of either a scum PGO or scum have some (probably limited) way of performing an extra kill. i am not entirely sure on what fakegod thinks of SKs but i know he's never included one in a setup before and i don't think this is multiscum and neither of those shots looks like vig kills (plus they should have fucking claimed it by now if they did vig one of them)notscience wrote:I still want to know who killed bitmap
purely on play, probably varsoon. i mean, victor's done nothing town looking, but feirei gave me town feels, whereas varsoon has just been... there. he's just a soulless shell of his usual town self.notscience wrote:Yo muffin, who is more likely scum? Varsoon or VDA (play alone)spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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hehgif wrote:I mean, I'm seeing some "recycle" from the last Touhou UPick
it's funny you should mention that
i'm not even the same character but my role is like a trollier version of it recycled
i mentioned it to fakegod and he was like holy shitspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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You were a goon because role names were about passive abilities, not card abilitiesspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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poe and lack of town read
also don't like his explanation for what he did today - but gaidenspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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also phone posting til I fix my net issues so can't really be bothered quoting
I think notscience has some idea that FakeGod assigned roles based on players which, apart from being unethical, is also completely wrong from back-and-forths I've had with him about it
GIF is almost certainly a rolecop who targeted pieguyspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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and yeah it's more that other people have done shit that I can see coming from a town mindset whereas garden has just been guidebook
Was going to fix the above typos but it's funnier letting my phone autocorrect like thatspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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almost because I can think of alternate tinfoil explanations like him receiving role information on death, him reporting a scum buddy's rolecop result, etc
I tend not to deal in absolutes in role madness gamesspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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if youre scum, that would entirely depend on whether pieguy was your NK target and whether you thought there was anything to gain from it (like, say, claiming you can't be scum because you wouldn't do that)spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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*shrug*
what you're saying and doing atm (trying to clear yourself purely for faulty role related logic) is reminding me of what I did in your game (where I also tried to pull off a would-never-do-that-as-scum thing N2)spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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and it woulda been hilariously awesome if kagami hadn't roleblocked pieguy
just sayingspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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No I think the far more likely scenario is GIF is a rolecop
You just asked why I said "almost" certainlyspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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yay my net is working again (at least for now)
anyway, axxle has had like a week now and doesn't seem to have read shit, victor has like one post this day phase and it was shit, and pim replaced in within an hour of fakegod starting his search for a replacement and hasn't posted yet
i like none of these thingsspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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sakura was reading RB as town?notscience wrote:I'm sheeping Sakura/Pie's read on Pim's predeessor.spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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do you think he's bussing / distancing here?notscience wrote:I could potentially wagon Axxle.spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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what risk?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i don't even know why you're talking about that since i wasn't seriously suggesting it as a likelihood, only a possibility, but in a no-flips game, there's probably not that much risk of this happeninggif wrote:Chance of scumbuddy flipping rolecop
not even really sure what this meansgif wrote:"Potential nightkill" not dying for too longspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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like i think the most likely scenario if you're scum is you're a role cop who targeted pieguy last night. whether or not scum also performed the kill on pieguy i don't know and don't really care because even if pieguy was the scum night kill, it means nothing in terms of your alignment (ignoring the fact that notscience has a boner for you with his pieguy case)
the thing that bothers me right now is you're attempting to go, "oh, there was no point in me doing that as scum" <- i don't believe that and i don't think you believe that, either. like even if there was no other point in doing it, the fact that you can talk about it as pointless to do as scum makes it not pointless to do as scum.spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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that wasn't really an answer but whatever
i'm not particularly interested in this line of discussion since it's not going anywherespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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the problem is that no matter how much you talk about it, it doesn't in any way 'confirm' you
which is why this isn't going anywherespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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no
i followed the reckoning III but not close enough that i took any notice of anything he was doingspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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btw do you want that present i was going to give you D1? it's pretty amazingspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i dunno, i already kinda told you what it is if you're paying attention
Night Sign "Midnight Bird": GIFspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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breaks the gamespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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the funny thing about that spellcard though is i apparently didn't need to declare a target in thread for it (it was optional) which is something i was clarifying with fakegod earlier in the day phase while asking about gif's spellcard from D1 (it's technically a targeted spellcard that doesn't require me giving a target in thread)
it's not a particularly important spellcard, sakura - my role is literally a troll rolespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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if bets weren't a violation of site rules, i'd bet good fucking money that, if this game reaches lylo, vezok is still going to be alivespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i'd probably be willing to vote him just because if he is scum, i wanna force him to use whatever it is that makes him unlynchable sooner rather than latergif wrote:Can someone who isn't Sgt. Chucklefuck or in his platoon please explain why they don't think GIF scum?
but be patient, young grasshopper
afaict, he was referring to the posts just before feirei replaced out, which i don't really think looked like anything more than RB getting upset at feirei voting him but *shrug*sakura wrote:Not sure what kind of indignation he means
looking at those links, it was similar to that first and second post actually
yeah but jaqen got killed for fake-claiming something AD thought was a threat when we made him bulletproofgif wrote:You never know.
We all thought Jaqen was gonna be alive at LyLo and surprisingly he died before then.
otherwise, he just might havespiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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problem here is that a lynch wouldn't occur if he used the spellcard (not a no lynch happening, just him being unlynchable, which is why i'm perfectly fine with testing it and forcing him to use it sooner rather than later) and this is within the scope of abilities i would expect scum to have in this game - powerful, but only in certain situations. last game, for example, pieguy had a card that was basically autowin at lylo (forces another player to vote someone) and this is somewhat different but has the same sort of utility.gif wrote:If GIF is indeed 2-shot unlynchable, then he has the most anti-town role ever conceived. If it's a scum role, then scum gets 2 free NKs and would have a surprise win at mylo. If it's a town role, scum still gets 2 free NKs, unless the player is sensible enough not to use it. This makes me think it would be town if he has it, where it would be zero-utility like most of the abilities we appear to have.
eh, maybe. the claiming flavour knowledge was the only part of this that was unprompted, though. he claimed unlynchable when it looked like he could be run up today, and if he is scum then the scum motivation in claiming to have rolecopped someone who died seems fairly obvious. not a fan of the whole "would have to explain why still alive" line of argument - apart from the fact there are multiple possible explanations for why someone isn't dying, we just came off a game where an inventor and kill cop who claimed a guilty both claimed D3/D2 respectively and made it to endgame (granted we tried to kill AD at the very end, but yeah)kagami wrote:He openly claimed flavor knowledge, and rolecop ability, and unlynchable x2 without any real scum motivation to do sospiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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(also, out of interest kagami, did you read the first upick and/or look at the role PMs for that game?)spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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actually, looking back at it, dake had a similar ability to pie's last game, so they had two ways of doing thatspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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o. lol. i should have guessed that was your ability worked, i just assumed it was similar to my thing where you submitted a target privatelyspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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i want you to use the card that makes you unlynchable today just to (a) make you get rid of it if you are scum and (b) shift focus to someone who actually can be lynched today. coz notscience has a murderboner for you and i don't think he's going flaccid any time soonspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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Vote: GIF
why don't you just use it and save us time?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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:<gif wrote:Screw this. My arms are too sore and can barely move to draw something with a mouse.
that's ok. i just did one for you
Spoiler:spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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(and yes, i am fully aware i could make a living as an artist, i've been told that several times)spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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walk me through why you think notscience is scumvictor wrote:Let's lynch NS and end this Day
and then walk me through why you think kagami is the second most likely player to flip scum
what do you think of their play?victor wrote:Like GiF, Pim/RBs role isn't scum unless the setup is doing crazy thingsspiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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