Marvel Avengers Alliance - Game over

[Nero Cain]

Why was I not sent a pm that this game had started.

In other news, lets policy lynch Yates!

vote:Yates

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it means Yates is scum and his buddies are scrambling for a counter wagon.

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Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...

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Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...

Oh. I guess the "JK! LOL!!!" is in invisible text, then. Probably why it just went zooming over my head. I mean, I would have no reason to think you were being serious, right? And I would have no reason to think you are trying to fabricate sticking to your meta, right? My bad.

Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?

this

I actually kinda agree with Vezok here. Umbrage calling Yates town is

Why is Yates town Umbrage?

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Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...

Oh. I guess the "JK! LOL!!!" is in invisible text, then. Probably why it just went zooming over my head. I mean, I would have no reason to think you were being serious, right? And I would have no reason to think you are trying to fabricate sticking to your meta, right? My bad.

Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?

this

I actually kinda agree with Vezok here. Umbrage calling Yates town is

Why is Yates town Umbrage?

[Nero Cain]

That's an antitown decision

Not really, I think pushing a wagon on the over reacting dude will give us more info no?

So where is your vote on the over reacting dude?

[Nero Cain]

So what? Why am I supposed to switch now?

Also, I did not choose Bulbafenix at random.

Are you an Arc Angel alt?

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So what? Why am I supposed to switch now?

Also, I did not choose Bulbafenix at random.

Are you an Arc Angel alt?

Frankly I'm somewhat insulted by this comparison >.>

What's wrong with Angel?

Yates thinking I was being serious is rather sad but it Yates so...

Oh. I guess the "JK! LOL!!!" is in invisible text, then. Probably why it just went zooming over my head. I mean, I would have no reason to think you were being serious, right? And I would have no reason to think you are trying to fabricate sticking to your meta, right? My bad.

Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?

this

I actually kinda agree with Vezok here. Umbrage calling Yates town is

Why is Yates town Umbrage?

because overreacting isn't a scum tell

this early in the game

, and because when scum are passive-aggressive they're usually a lot more subtle

the bolded seems to imply that you think overreacts are only scummy later on in the game...what is the difference between an early overreaction on a late one?

Bro Chill. Too much over reaction for a seemingly RVS vote?

I'm chill. Nero and I have a frustrating history. To me, his vote is less RVS and more a needle. In a moment of honesty, I'm p-sure he'd admit as much. He pretends to scum read certain players in EVERY game and it gets exhausting for us.

OR - he is trying to throw me off by using exactly the same meta here as in other games - which raises non-RVS suspicions for me. As in, people have a

similar

approach to games when they are the same alignment and that's where "meta" comes from, right? But you take notice when someone is not just posting similar but

exactly the same

. That's where I'm at with Nero. And it makes it hard for me to get an honest read on him - which is probably his intent.

ummm no. My vote on you was an RVS bandwagon hop on you, my 37 was a totes joke. The fact you think I was being serious and that I was fake scumreading you is such

I hope to God that Josh_B has a post restriction 'cause that shit is annoying as hell.

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though to be fair, I guess I was sorta antagonizing him but that fake scum read junk is so stupid.

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my 37 was a totes joke.

You see why it looked like a troll given the conversation we VERY recently had about how you scum read certain players [myself being one of them] in every game?

This is an ongoing game and you shouldn't allude to it, however, its not like I'm the first player in history to find certain players/playstyles scummy. For instance, all of Nacho, PA, Titus and MOI (when he was playing here) ALWAYS read me as scum. But you are making it out like just "fake scumread" people for the hell of it and I don't. Are you trying to discredit me here?

In THIS game, I thought it would be funny to vote you and jokingly push on you (#37). You trying to claim that I was scum reading you and then pushing back on me DOES make me feel a little uneasy especially given that 37 made absolutely fuck all sense.

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my 37 was a totes joke.

You see why it looked like a troll given the conversation we VERY recently had about how you scum read certain players [myself being one of them] in every game?

This is an ongoing game and you shouldn't allude to it, however, its not like I'm the first player in history to find certain players/playstyles scummy. For instance, all of Nacho, PA, Titus and MOI (when he was playing here) ALWAYS read me as scum. But you are making it out like just "fake scumread" people for the hell of it and I don't. Are you trying to discredit me here?

In THIS game, I thought it would be funny to vote you and jokingly push on you (#37). You trying to claim that I was scum reading you and then pushing back on me DOES make me feel a little uneasy especially given that 37 made absolutely fuck all sense.

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helo?

Hi pidgey. Are you gonna do an RVS vote or nah?

naw, he's scum and doesn't want to ruffle any tail feathers (c what I did there?)

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but I actually do think he could be scum since it feels like his not town entrances but I said it in a humorous way and I'm glad that SOMEONE has a sense of humor.

*glares at yates*

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Nero, how do you always manage to double post? Are you click happy? Who do you think is scum? You normally get it right D1 IIRC so I am fine with sheeping you right now. You are probably the person I trust the most because of that FE game.

Its my computer. My posts are so good that the computer double posts. (SRS answer; it IS the computer. Its been doing this since I got it and I'm not tech saavy enought to know what is wrong. I ran virus scan but it didn't pick up anything so meh.)

ZZZX's 58 was pretty silly.
Pidgey's entrance to the game was p lame.
I still don't care for Yate's reaction.
Squirell is being uncharacteristically quiet.
Umbrage's stance that Yates overreacting in the early game and therefore town is mind boggingly dumb.

So prob some scum there.

Sheeping is convenient. -for scum. How about I promise to vote exactly opposite on every one that you vote for except for the times that I come to the conclusion on my own that I should vote on the same person that you are voting for. And even then, it will be voting in opposition.

Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.

I dont like this series of posts:

That's an antitown decision

Not really, I think pushing a wagon on the over reacting dude will give us more info no?

So where is your vote on the over reacting dude?

Ops forgot

Vote Yates

Forgetting to vote? Ehhh... Someone who was serious about this scumread would not be "forgetting" to vote, it sounds to me like he is making this up.

Vote: ZZZX

Could be, I know I have him on my watch list but I've seen town do this before but then again I've seen some of the strangest "town" play these past few years.

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uh rvs post?

<rest of rvs post>

cool beans. Now talk about the game.

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Also, the quote of you saying oops forget and then voting. That IMPLIES you had a scum read because you said you FORGOT to vote them. I don't vote my town reads, do you? Sure you can try to get info but saying you forgot to vote is where all the scumminess comes in for me.

ummm what?

also Yates/Nero is obv town on town

Yeah, I agree with this. Yates defintely looks town. My only reservation about Nero is that he looked super town in "Always Sunny", and in fact was scum. However, in that he was far more serious. His jokey policy lynch looks pretty relaxed and town.

I don't really get how Yates looks town. I guess thinking about it mmmmaaaayyybbbe I could understand him being frustrated 'cause me and Squirrel had a similar incident. But I mean, I think it was pretty obvious I was joking but him taking it SRS and then pushing back and accusing me of fake scum reading him is just...makes me want to pour bleach in my eyes so I don't have to read him.

Also DGB handled the majority of the posting in Sunny.

Why are you so quiet this game Squirrel?

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In our last game you seemed sorta spammy. Talk to me about Yates and Piggey.

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uh rvs post?

vote: Charizard dude player

Ok so, why charizard?
1. First of he is a fucking DRAGON.
2. Second, he is confirmed for smash 4, and im not even there in a pokeball or much less a fucking cameo in the background (still negotiating for a trophy... fingers crossed)
3. He has base stat of like 510, i probably dont have more than 340.
4. Majestic wings that i want
5. Pidgeot has no mega evolution

surprised nobody's commented on how scummy it is for someone to put this much work into a shitty RVS vote

While I don't exactly find Pid pr0-town, this was a totes fucking joke. A you/yates team would be funny 'cause I you two have no sense of humor.

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In our last game you seemed sorta spammy. Talk to me about Yates and Piggey.

How did I seem spammy? In this game, at the point you called me out, I had 10 posts in 3 days. Last game we played together I took 8 days to get 10 posts. Looking at my habits I appear to post, on average, about 2-3 comments a day unless I get into something. That is all exactly in line with what I'm doing here. So, again, where are you getting this vibe from,a nd

is there any actual value in it in your opinion?

Or is it a fake presentation you're pushing on me?

I don't particularly have any read on Yates or Pidgey. I would call them both null. I don't agree with the scum case on Yates, but I don't think he's done anything townish either. I don't have much of anything to off Pidgey on, but will admit to a slight gut townish on him moreso than Yates simply because he appears to be trying to scumhunt right out the gate which Yates did not. I would neithe rparticularly support nor oppose either being lynched at this stage.

What's your read on those two, and what would you like to talk about?
Also, what's your read on Mozamis?

Don't really like the pushing back and being a dick with the bolded. I both hate math at suck at it so I won't even attempt to try it but, I felt you were really active with a lot of content. Here, I didn't get that vibe but that could be just 'cause it was early and there wasn't much to post about.

Pid and Yates are both leaning scum for me. I think Pid's entrance was pretty low key and trying to hang below the radar. I've already discussed Yates but I mean, I guess I can understand him being annoyed (since I can kinda see a similarity between what I'm doing and what you did to me in BoS) but that "I'm scumhunting by attacking my RVSer" is pretty dumb.

I don't really have a scumread on Moz. I guess he could go "hey guys, Nero was super pro-town in Sunny and he was SCUM!" In an attempt to keep me lynchable but I don't really see anything else. What am I missing?

I would ask you about who you want dead other than Moz but I see you are helping me kill Yates. Anyone else you have a scumread on?

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the only person that thinks she's scum is Yates and umbrage

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So instead of making things clear (I'm pretty sure your only "scum" reads are my and Squirrel despite not voting any of us) you got go tell folks to read your posts.

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@Yates-Well see, despite the fact that your sole scumreads are on your attackers. As if that's not pathetic enough. A vote is more telling than words. I also think there's a lot of scum motivation in not joining a wagon unless it gains traction and neither me and SG are getting lynched so what's your motivation for not voting?


Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.

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Sheeping is convenient. -for scum. How about I promise to vote exactly opposite on every one that you vote for except for the times that I come to the conclusion on my own that I should vote on the same person that you are voting for. And even then, it will be voting in opposition.

Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.

Baah! Why did he pick you? Are you a farmer that I've never heard of before?

I DO have an organic farm on my balcony!

The reason he picked me I suppose is that in the gme we played together I had scum reads on like 2 or 3 of the scum. Of course he COULD be buddying me but I kinda think he's being honest 'cause in that same game he pretty much sheeped TSO.

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^^^^
that's the town Pid that I'm familiar with

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I guess he could fabricate his town meta. Do you have a scum read on him?

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Do you still have a scumread on Moz?

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Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.

How is it mature?

His reads really stunk that game and mine were ok...so.....in the next game he is all like "ok well I'm just going to sheep someone that's a decent scumhunter" That seems like a pretty mature stance to me unless you believe that he's scum buddying me for town cred.

I guess he could fabricate his town meta. Do you have a scum read on him?

If his town meta is going out on a Saturday night then yes, I'm sure he can

The meta that I associate with him being town is that he fusses and cusses and overreacts which is why I called his intro low key and not town like.

Do you still have a scumread on Moz?

Yeppers!

k y?

@Beast can you answer my question?

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Nero, are you talking about your umm what question in post like 131 or something? I fail to see a question somewhere.

yes, I was you to clarify what you were saying in 112.

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Nero, are you talking about your umm what question in post like 131 or something? I fail to see a question somewhere.

yes, I was you to clarify what you were saying in 112.

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Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.

So? Are you concerned that I'm not aware of my vote? We are 10 pages in to a large theme game that is 4 days old with more than 17 1/2 days left. Does it surprise you that I may need as many as 5 days to place a serious vote?

Actually yes. There's a lot of scum motivation to not vote. I looked a lil' bit at 2.5 men and you had a semi serious pl vote on Monkeyman. Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey? Though at the same time I had actually accused you of being scum for not voting your scumreads so maybe I'm wrong again.

In the mean time - while my vote is parked on my RVS choice - I used my early posts to probe suspicious activity and have just clearly illustrated anomalous activity. Given what Squirrel has said, how I have played, how pidgey has played, and what pidgey has said; what do you think about the path I'm pursuing with Squirrel?

I'm with SQ here, unless I'm reading this wrong here:

Pid calls Displaced scum in 125 and then clarifies why he was scum reading him in 136
SG says Pid was scumhunting right out of the gate in 140
In 142 you say that he wasn't scumhunting
You quote his first 4 posts
She accuses you of cherry picking
You say that you weren'y cherry picking 'cause she said he was hunting right out of the gate-I think you are being massively anal here

Post 135 is scumhunting - he is presenting a stance and seeking reactions.

though she IS wrong here

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Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.

So? Are you concerned that I'm not aware of my vote? We are 10 pages in to a large theme game that is 4 days old with more than 17 1/2 days left. Does it surprise you that I may need as many as 5 days to place a serious vote?

Actually yes. There's a lot of scum motivation to not vote. I looked a lil' bit at 2.5 men and you had a semi serious pl vote on Monkeyman. Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey? Though at the same time I had actually accused you of being scum for not voting your scumreads so maybe I'm wrong again.

In the mean time - while my vote is parked on my RVS choice - I used my early posts to probe suspicious activity and have just clearly illustrated anomalous activity. Given what Squirrel has said, how I have played, how pidgey has played, and what pidgey has said; what do you think about the path I'm pursuing with Squirrel?

I'm with SQ here, unless I'm reading this wrong here:

Pid calls Displaced scum in 125 and then clarifies why he was scum reading him in 136
SG says Pid was scumhunting right out of the gate in 140
In 142 you say that he wasn't scumhunting
You quote his first 4 posts
She accuses you of cherry picking
You say that you weren'y cherry picking 'cause she said he was hunting right out of the gate-I think you are being massively anal here

Post 135 is scumhunting - he is presenting a stance and seeking reactions.

though she IS wrong here

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Yes yates, I realize your vote is on your RVS but that's effectively a no lynch vote.

So? Are you concerned that I'm not aware of my vote? We are 10 pages in to a large theme game that is 4 days old with more than 17 1/2 days left. Does it surprise you that I may need as many as 5 days to place a serious vote?

Actually yes. There's a lot of scum motivation to not vote. I looked a lil' bit at 2.5 men and you had a semi serious pl vote on Monkeyman. Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey? Though at the same time I had actually accused you of being scum for not voting your scumreads so maybe I'm wrong again.

In the mean time - while my vote is parked on my RVS choice - I used my early posts to probe suspicious activity and have just clearly illustrated anomalous activity. Given what Squirrel has said, how I have played, how pidgey has played, and what pidgey has said; what do you think about the path I'm pursuing with Squirrel?

I'm with SQ here, unless I'm reading this wrong here:

Pid calls Displaced scum in 125 and then clarifies why he was scum reading him in 136
SG says Pid was scumhunting right out of the gate in 140
In 142 you say that he wasn't scumhunting
You quote his first 4 posts
She accuses you of cherry picking
You say that you weren'y cherry picking 'cause she said he was hunting right out of the gate-I think you are being massively anal here

Post 135 is scumhunting - he is presenting a stance and seeking reactions.

though she IS wrong here

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Lets not. The pissing matches between you and Yates and Nero and Yates are primarily semantic and definition-based in your case and meta-based in Nero's. All this is doing is cluttering the thread with garbage posts and takes away from actual scumhunting. And there are people doing actually scummy things in this game, so attention would be better placed on scumhunting rather than trying to boost your own egos.

I am very wary of this post.....

there is no pissing contest and there is no ego in play except maybe Yates

@the ruffling-read on me and SG noa

For Nero:

ZZZX was saying they were voting for info and not because they thought the person was scum. At least that is what I got from their explanation. I didn't agree with this so I was saying someone doesn't vote a town read for info they only should vote scum reads/null. That is what I found odd about what they did. The fact that didn't say they had a scum read but rather the vote was purely for info.

I've read and reead this a few times now...

In 62 ZZZX says he thinks a push on Yates would get more info.
he forgets to vote and then votes in 65
P rat says you (him) wouldn't forget to vote on a scumread
In 98 he says that he didn't have a scumread on Yates but wanted info?
kinda fence sits on him in 246, then is kinda like well "I was being told to vote!"

So I think his explanation makes some sense here. Info/pressure votes are a thing. Are you honestly telling me that you've never seen/heard of this?

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His reads really stunk that game and mine were ok...so.....in the next game he is all like "ok well I'm just going to sheep someone that's a decent scumhunter" That seems like a pretty mature stance to me unless you believe that he's scum buddying me for town cred.

Not really sure what to make of it, but I could just as easily see it being scum hiding behind someone they're familiar with and buddying, rather than writing it off as town so early on.

Well, in that game we played he was a vig and let TSO decide his vig shots so maybe he buddies like crazy regardless of alignment but...you know what? He's not even sheeping me! I could buy some "I'm going to play to Nero's ego" and then not sheep when he gets called out on budding me.

I guess he could fabricate his town meta. Do you have a scum read on him?

If his town meta is going out on a Saturday night then yes, I'm sure he can

The meta that I associate with him being town is that he fusses and cusses and overreacts which is why I called his intro low key and not town like.

Yeah, I was being a a bit snarkastic there.

But you don't think pidgey could copy his town meta by throwing an overreaction and some F bombs around?

I'm sure he could. What is your read on him?

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Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey?

maybe 'cause monkeyman isn't in this game. holy fucking derp.

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Wich leads me to my next q. Why no pl on Monkey?

maybe 'cause monkeyman isn't in this game. holy fucking derp.

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Perhaps. Let's take a different approach. Do you feel like Pidgey was scum hunting in those first 8 posts? I don't think he was, my interpretation of Pidgey's post is that he didn't think he was, but what do YOU think? Also, do you feel like I was NOT scum hunting in my first 6 posts? I think I was, but of course I have the benefit of knowing why I go in the direction I go so maybe my scum hunting isn't obvious to everyone else? What do YOU think?

Yes, I think Pid was hunting. If you didn't think Pid was scumhunting why haven't you called Pid out and why did you call 2 of his posts scumhunting? I'm again with SG here, I think Pid misread/misinterpreted here. She said that Pid was scumhunting not that he was a super scumhunter. I don't think you've been hunting at all, all of your posts have been reactionary and pushing back on anyone that suspects you.

Pid, what do you think of Yates accusing you of fake scumhunting?

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Perhaps. Let's take a different approach. Do you feel like Pidgey was scum hunting in those first 8 posts? I don't think he was, my interpretation of Pidgey's post is that he didn't think he was, but what do YOU think? Also, do you feel like I was NOT scum hunting in my first 6 posts? I think I was, but of course I have the benefit of knowing why I go in the direction I go so maybe my scum hunting isn't obvious to everyone else? What do YOU think?

Yes, I think Pid was hunting. If you didn't think Pid was scumhunting why haven't you called Pid out and why did you call 2 of his posts scumhunting? I'm again with SG here, I think Pid misread/misinterpreted here. She said that Pid was scumhunting not that he was a super scumhunter. I don't think you've been hunting at all, all of your posts have been reactionary and pushing back on anyone that suspects you.

Pid, what do you think of Yates accusing you of fake scumhunting?

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I don't see a difference between Pid isn't scumhunting and no I don't think he's fake scum hunting 'cause if you think that Pid's attack on Displaced was not scumhunting then it would have to be fake?

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This is fucking retarded, but i guess i can fucking put my 2 cents?

1.- I dont think i scum hunted on my first 4 posts.
As a matter of fact, im pretty sure i was drunk and having fun.

No one said this. We (me and SG) are saying that you started scumhunting Displaced.

and then Yates is all like "no he hasn't been scumhunting" wich...I...I...just don't get 'cause how you you hold that something is not scumhunting but not fake?

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Oh and just saw nero's posts, saying i FAKE SCUM HUNTED is an outright lie. I RVS shit posted, and i gave like 3 senteces of reads, but that wasnt fake at all.

yeah...I never said anything like that.

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Maybe I was originally right about Pid. He's misrepping like crazy here.

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Oh and just saw nero's posts, saying i FAKE SCUM HUNTED is an outright lie. I RVS shit posted, and i gave like 3 senteces of reads, but that wasnt fake at all.

This sounds very much like you saying that I said you were fake scumhunting.

Yates IS saying that you were not scumhunting but to me you were unless you were being dishonest about your Displaced read so if Yates holds that you were not scumhunting while calling Displaced scum he's saying that you were being dishonest and therefore your read is fake. Yet he says its not fake hunting but its not scumhunting? IDFK. God I wish I had bullets.

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Yates are you saying im fake hunting in those first 7 posts, not counting the obviously charizard part? Or not hunting?

And I don't see any difference between "not hunting" and "fake hunting" 'cause if one is not hunting but obviously calling someone scum then that would be fake.

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Yates are you saying im fake hunting in those first 7 posts, not counting the obviously charizard part? Or not hunting?

And I don't see any difference between "not hunting" and "fake hunting" 'cause if one is not hunting but obviously calling someone scum then that would be fake.

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Also, I didn't know you were ESL, where are you from Pid?

Do you really have a scumread on Displaced?

[Nero Cain]

What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?

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What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?

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What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?

SG accused me of not scumhunting.

Also, YOU accused me of not scumhunting. Though you clearly recognize that there is scumhunting inherent in defending yourself or challenging the logic/motivation. At least, you think that when people accuse YOU of not scumhunting in games where you are sussing out your attacker. *shrug*

Questioning obvious bullshit is one thing, but me nor SG didn't post any shit. I made a joke about pling you and then joked about how they weren't wagoning you and that meant you were scum. You got all whiney about it and accused me of trying to be meta or whatever dumb shit you said. As far as SG goes, you were wrong and your continuing to argue despite being wrong is really anti-town (if you are town). So if you are town you need to stop it or eat rope today.


Pushing back is null 'cause both alignments do it and having scum reads on your attackers and/or a limited few often comes from scum.

@the ruffling-read on me and SG noa

I liked Squirrel Girl up to the point that she started calling pidgey townie based of the same set of posts that I feel make pidgey scummy. However, I'm putting SG into the category of mistaken townie rather than skimming scum presently.

I have a similar feeling towards you, Nero. Your read on pidgey is wrong. Your assessment of SG's argument for pidgey being town is also wrong. I don't see how either of you can take a hard look at pidgey's shifting case and come up with a town reading off it. I'm a little more confident in thinking that you are town.

1. SG hasn't called Pid town.
2. Why is SG mistaken town than scum presenting wrong facts?
3. Short of claiming scum with Pid, why am I wrong?
4. His case isn't shifting

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Yates is stubborn. Squirrel Girl is town, and is right.

FIFY!

But does that make them scummy in a large game?

And what's the difference between being opportunistic in a small and a large?

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Pid wagon is crap, either Yates or Ruffling are my preferred lynches.

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And what's the difference between being opportunistic in a small and a large?

I don't know either of them. What I do know is some players get overwhelmed in a game this size and will do something "opportunistic" as an excuse to place a vote. If anyone had meta on either of these clowns, that would be better than assuming they are Monkey or AA9 alts...

Seems kinda fence sitter, man.

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And what's the difference between being opportunistic in a small and a large?

I don't know either of them. What I do know is some players get overwhelmed in a game this size and will do something "opportunistic" as an excuse to place a vote. If anyone had meta on either of these clowns, that would be better than assuming they are Monkey or AA9 alts...

Seems kinda fence sitter, man.

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vote:the ruffling

[Nero Cain]

Did Ruffling town it up lately or something?

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: Rufflig

After reading through some of the game, I don't like him. I'll try to finish catching up later.

don't really like the hop without being fully caught up.

I was liking Josh but on p. 20 and him questioning weather this game has fake claims makes me very very very uneasy 'cause new scum tend to do that often. I need to ISO him and see what exactly it was that I liked.

It's not an advantage, it's a fighting chance. What if we decided to all claim our rolenames on Day 1, and someone asked scum player X to go first. He has no choice but to pick something out of a hat and potentially dies right then and there for no good reason. It's what's done. The only point of flavor is to be flavor. Any game breakable by mass flavor claim wouldn't pass the review process.

I'm sorry, but no... A mod isn't going to go out of their way to give the mafia a 'fighting chance' by giving them ALL a character role to claim. UNLESS, it is ROLE specific, something in this game like Mystique I could see getting a role that calls for that. Other than that, no. If EVERYONE mass claimed day one, it then comes down to, 'ok, who's claim is believe-able'? After that, you give the MAFIA the advantage by leaping up and going, 'I got *insert character here*. 'But, that's my character! (another poster)' and it then becomes a truth/chaotic war where the town can devour itself while the mafia drink in the chaos.

~Fenix

This is horrible too.

OK. How do you feel about KidA, chandra and rufflig

Null, town, town.

how the hell do you have a town read on ruffling?

[Nero Cain]

Just quickly, everyone poo-pooing the Aronis kill as a bad kill is either dumb or scum.

[Nero Cain]

@Nero: You didn't think the length of time he spent confused rang a bit town? Also, I'm not particularly aware of new scum doing that?

This is my bad. He was just confused.

Maybe I was originally right about Pid. He's misrepping like crazy here.

Probably not. Why would scum-pidgey get involved in this fuck show that's occuring, instead of just letting it play out around him?

I don't really get this. Pid was the main focus of Yates vs. SG with Yates saying that Pid wasn't scum hunting. If Pid was scum do you really think he'd ignore me asking him about this?

It makes me feel like the Yate's/SG war was Faction on Faction

Possibly. I'm in the Town faction so if SG is in a different faction then what you are saying here makes perfect sense.

Why are you being ambiguous here? You "moved on" to "spare this game more BS"? If you think she's scum then I don't see why you'd "move on" but if you "moved on" 'cause you decided that it was TvT then why say "possibly" here?
Also fake claims are super common in themes so you going "THIS IS JASON MOD META!" is head desk.

Just quickly, everyone poo-pooing the Aronis kill as a bad kill is either dumb or scum.

Why is this?

Mainly 'cause I suspected Aronis and I was wrong but I don't think it was stupid of me to suspect Aronis. The guy had shit all for content and he "hoped" onto a SRS bandwagon without being caught up which seems like scum motivation. Though he was ALREADY voting Ruf but I didn't realize that till an ISO.

Why the fuck did someone shoot aronis now.
There were so many better targets.

Are all Daykillers town sided? I have never been in a game with one and at first I thought it was a modkill.

No.

Dude,there are town daykillers.

[Nero Cain]

I have never had a day time kill before and got a little jumpy

Ok. So you understand now how your shot would be more useful towards the end of the day - especially as we acquire Town consensus?

In 2.5 men weren't you telling us to wait on a shot until we had night info?

[Nero Cain]

trading a serial lurker for a serial lurker!!!

[Nero Cain]

Ola boys and gilrs..
Whats cooking.

Depends what you are making me but go tell me about Yates and Ruffling.

[Nero Cain]

Why are you being ambiguous here?

Ambiguous? My interaction was specifically characterized as "faction on faction" by Josh. I said I was Town and therefore his theory would only be plausible if he considered the Town a "faction." How is that being ambiguous at all? Moreover, how do you even determine if an argument is "faction on faction" versus any other type? That's a weird place to try to get specific, is not based on any logic, and makes no sense to me.

The "faction vs. faction" comment was him accusing you and SG of being on different scum teams. You had just got done saying that you were "moving on" with SG. To me that sounded that you started town reading her, or do you still think she's scum and your going to stop arguing with her 'cause you can't get any traction? So SG is still a scum read?

Also fake claims are super common in themes so you going "THIS IS JASON MOD META!" is head desk.

And yet we had someone who claims to have been operating under the assumption that scum were not provided fake claims. How is demonstrating that OUR MOD has a history of providing fake claims [and multifaction games] "head desk?" It's like you are not reading the game or are trying to take things as out of context as possible.

All you had to say was "hey its MS and the majority of theme games have fake claims."

[Nero Cain]

town can't really do anything about it [multiple scum teams]

Preach on. Why is Nero pretending he doesn't get this?

What the absolute fuck is this?

The "faction vs. faction" comment was him accusing you and SG of being on different scum teams.

No crap. That's precisely my point. As noted above - and in my previous post - how can you even make this assumption without the info required to confirm multiball? And, specifically, how can Town even ascertain the probability of of an interaction being faction on faction versus town on faction or town on town? Are you going to address this or keep pretending you are somehow confused by my post, still? This is beginning to look like you are trying to provoke an argument between Josh and I where there isn't one.
[/quote]
Yeah that's it! I'm trying to provoke and argument between you and Josh.

In 446 you said you "So in the interests of sparing this game more of this BS, I'm moving on. You probably should too." I took this that you now had a town read on SG.

In 602 Josh says that he thinks ya'lls (you and SG) back and forth was scum on scum action but that you guys are from different groups.

In 608 you respond "possibly, I'm town." Which implies that you don't have a town read on SG. So maybe your 446 WASN'T a town read on SG. But if you still think that's scum then why call it "BS" and "move on"?

So in 777 I ask...

or do you still think she's scum and your going to stop arguing with her 'cause you can't get any traction? So SG is still a scum read?

Which you, conveniently, ignored.

So you are getting mad why?

vote:Yates

@Beast-either start sheeping me or die.

@Josh, you are town, I am town. Help me kill scumYates.

[Nero Cain]

@Josh you really don't the BS that Yates is spouting here?

town can't really do anything about it [multiple scum teams]

Preach on. Why is Nero pretending he doesn't get this?

What the absolute fuck is this?

The "faction vs. faction" comment was him accusing you and SG of being on different scum teams.

No crap. That's precisely my point. As noted above - and in my previous post - how can you even make this assumption without the info required to confirm multiball? And, specifically, how can Town even ascertain the probability of of an interaction being faction on faction versus town on faction or town on town? Are you going to address this or keep pretending you are somehow confused by my post, still? This is beginning to look like you are trying to provoke an argument between Josh and I where there isn't one.

Yeah that's it! I'm trying to provoke and argument between you and Josh.

In 446 you said you "So in the interests of sparing this game more of this BS, I'm moving on. You probably should too." I took this that you now had a town read on SG.

In 602 Josh says that he thinks ya'lls (you and SG) back and forth was scum on scum action but that you guys are from different groups.

In 608 you respond "possibly, I'm town." Which implies that you don't have a town read on SG. So maybe your 446 WASN'T a town read on SG. But if you still think that's scum then why call it "BS" and "move on"?

So in 777 I ask...

or do you still think she's scum and your going to stop arguing with her 'cause you can't get any traction? So SG is still a scum read?

Which you, conveniently, ignored.

So you are getting mad why?

[/quote]

[Nero Cain]

bull shit Yates, I wasn't misrepping you or trying to start an argument.

[Nero Cain]

bull shit Yates, I wasn't misrepping you or trying to start an argument.

Your needles during the Yates-SG stuff felt like prods.
Your needles during the Yates-JoshB stuff felt like prods.

no and no

Your "confusion" about thinking I somehow thought SG was Town because I was dropping the semantic argument point feels like a misrep.

Calling something bullshit, saying that you were going to leave this alone and then not revoting doesn't really make it clear that you still had a scum read on her. So you going "OMG you couldn't read my mind." is so derp.

[Nero Cain]

bull shit Yates, I wasn't misrepping you or trying to start an argument.

Your needles during the Yates-SG stuff felt like prods.
Your needles during the Yates-JoshB stuff felt like prods.

no and no

Your "confusion" about thinking I somehow thought SG was Town because I was dropping the semantic argument point feels like a misrep.

Calling something bullshit, saying that you were going to leave this alone and then not revoting doesn't really make it clear that you still had a scum read on her. So you going "OMG you couldn't read my mind." is so derp.

[Nero Cain]

I feel you & nero have some ego issues. Would you both ever consider to play as team instead of try to piss on each other all the time?
I am done with both of you. Remember the last jason game? You both fought all day and what did you guys acheive? there were more than 40 pages for a single day phase because of both of you and out come was "both of you were Town". You both gave so much space for Scum team to sit back and relax in game. so, Don't do it same mistake again.. If Nero has good points, Try working with him... I feel you both would make a GREAT TEAM TOGETHER. I am very serious about this. Unless you both can't work on issues between both of you.. We wont win this game.

Or we could just kill Yates so I can lead the town to victory. I actually think Yates ego is bigger than mine. When he's wrong about something instead of admitting that he's wrong he'll argue that he's right even though the facts are not on his side. At the very least that's anti-town.

So other than misrepping like crazy and taking little potshots at me like troll scum...
He was being massively defensive and whiney in the early game.
There was also some selective scumhunting thing but I'll have to look through his ISO and see what that is.

Speaking of selective scumhunting...UN is prob scum so

vote:UnfriendlyNeighbors

@ nero cain: I'm pretty sure I've asked you 2 or 3 questions I didn't get answers too

I remember you asking me about Beast and about my statement that "the folks poo-poohing the Aronis kill were scum or dumb". We've talked about the kill already. I did not respond to your question about Beast. I'm leaning scum here since I think his "I'm gonna sheep you Nero!" but not really sheeping me was to get on my good side. I could have voted his buddy and he obviously did not want to sheep me then. So what else did you ask me about?

[Nero Cain]

Nero rubbed me the wrong way right off the bat.

grow a fucking backbone. baby.

The one where a Vanilla Town Nero inexplicably faked having a "QuickTopic Investigation" guilty on Town me? Yup. I would NEVER fake a guilty on someone as Town without admitting to a gambit. And Nero was deservedly shot in the head that night for doing so. Keep THAT in mind as you evaluate the hypocrisy and truth value of this statement:

All I hear is wah wah wah.

Anyways, I was shot the next day without a chance to claim but its not like you use facts in your statements. But if you want to talk about moral values then we can talk about how your "wife" all the sudden had the same scumreads as I did in the dead qt. fucking cheater.

[Nero Cain]

Nero rubbed me the wrong way right off the bat.

grow a fucking backbone. baby.

The one where a Vanilla Town Nero inexplicably faked having a "QuickTopic Investigation" guilty on Town me? Yup. I would NEVER fake a guilty on someone as Town without admitting to a gambit. And Nero was deservedly shot in the head that night for doing so. Keep THAT in mind as you evaluate the hypocrisy and truth value of this statement:

All I hear is wah wah wah.

Anyways, I was shot the next day without a chance to claim but its not like you use facts in your statements. But if you want to talk about moral values then we can talk about how your "wife" all the sudden had the same scumreads as I did in the dead qt. fucking cheater.

[Nero Cain]

My primary qualm about UN being scum is "if they were scum, would they really suck this badly?" They're better than this either way, though.

It's Cabd. Mac is generally useless but this seems different than Cabd town.

[Nero Cain]

grow a fucking backbone. baby.

That's the problem. I have one. I saw you immediately troll me and called you out on it. Not sure what else there is to say about that. *shrug*

No, that was you getting fussy for no reason. Everyone else realized that I was fucking around. Either you are immature as fuck or you are scum.

I was shot the next day without a chance to claim but its not like you use facts in your statements.

I actually do. You know, like I did in the portion of the argument that elicited the "wah wah wah" response since you aren't mature enough to take responsibility for your action or to recognize the anti-Town nature of your play.

yep. I was wrong. I didn't think anyone could be that fucking derpy and still be town so I fake claimed 'cause at the least you were a distraction to the town but I really did think you were scum. Still, I was shot the next day and didn't even get a chance to claim. Those are the facts.

if you want to talk about moral values

It's not about morals - it's about the information you provide to your team.

Oh, like the constant lies that you are spreading in this game?

[Nero Cain]

A lot of it is vibeish. I'm not getting the same Cabd town feeling. His "catch" on Josh is ridiculously silly and he wasn't the first one to bring up this game being probs MB and Josh is a much easier target than Yates or whomever else brought it up. Is he a town read for you?

[Nero Cain]

Serious question; are you and Nero on the same scum team committed to trolling me in this game?

See what I'm talking about? He's resorted to taking potshots [and arguing for the sake of arguing] instead of actually trying to push a lynch.

[Nero Cain]

Nero Cain, your post 134? The last game w/ SQ was Charmed and she wasn't spammy. Are you thinking of a different game?

you know the part where she kept telling me to post and crap eventhough I was not really around? Its that annoying attempt at being cute I was referring to. I like her a lot now once she pwned Yates but then again winning a logic war with Yates isn't hard to do.

Illogical = Anti-Town

VOTE: Josh_B

lol no

Mala, in your last post you gave a reads list, why was the whole playerbase not on it?

[Nero Cain]

winning a logic war with Yates isn't hard to do.

I will pay someone a million mafia bucks to shoot this in the face. A MILLION.

I'll pay $5 via paypal and a coupon for a proxy vote if you guys shoot Yates

or we could just lynch him and kill the other scum UN later.

[Nero Cain]

winning a logic war with Yates isn't hard to do.

I will pay someone a million mafia bucks to shoot this in the face. A MILLION.

I'll pay $5 via paypal and a coupon for a proxy vote if you guys shoot Yates

or we could just lynch him and kill the other scum UN later.

[Nero Cain]

I love how you single out that one part of my argument and skip over the most incriminating part: Where you had been arguing with Nero all game, and where he had not posted in a hydra once.

In my defense - Nero is bad at posting. See above. Also, people post out of hydra all the time. Also, also, I actually *did* address this. I'm in multiple games. I just forgot.

My double post have absolutely nothing to do with you voting the Cabd hydra thinking that it was me.

Nero Cain, your post 134? The last game w/ SQ was Charmed and she wasn't spammy. Are you thinking of a different game?

you know the part where she kept telling me to post and crap eventhough I was not really around? Its that annoying attempt at being cute I was referring to. I like her a lot now once she pwned Yates but then again winning a logic war with Yates isn't hard to do.

Illogical = Anti-Town

VOTE: Josh_B

lol no

Mala, in your last post you gave a reads list, why was the whole playerbase not on it?

I think this is something that we disagree on; That bad logic obviously = scum. Not my fault you can't understand that :L

I "get it". I agree that bad logic can=scum but bad logic can also come from bad town. So why is Josh's bad logic from scum and not bad town? Why are you singling out Josh and ignoring Yates and Ruffling who both have bad logic?

Why do you hate me Vi-omi?

[Nero Cain]

ummm ok? Are you Saki or some thing?

[Nero Cain]

p sure we haven't and you are confusing me with the other Nero but regardless...its fairly petty to hold a grudge on him.

[Nero Cain]

ok so why do you hate me?

[Nero Cain]

ok so why do you hate me?

[Nero Cain]

Well its deff not the logic thing 'cause I'm a great hunter. Could be the rude thing but I know we've played together as Viomi and you've never expressed your dislike of me so I'm a bit like "huh what?" Its like reading a Yates post with less of an attempted point!

town bloc of awesomeness

Nero/AJ/Bulb/SG/pid/chandra/josh

prob town

jk/arc/vezok/slutbus/umbrage/displaced/ZZZX

nullies

kid/moz/pv/mala/beast/thad

scum

Yates/ruffling/Viomi/UN

sheep me acordingly

[Nero Cain]

Nero- Join the crowd, stop tunneling on Yates and trying to start a counter wagon.

UnfriendlyNeighbors 4 - PeregrineV,

Nero Cain

,vezokpiraka,The Rufflig,

So explain your town read on Yates for me plox.

[Nero Cain]

Jason made two wagons 'cuse the first one is all scum and the second one is not.

[Nero Cain]

yea, now vote either Cabd hydra or Yates.

[Nero Cain]

So you have a scum read on me for a meta distaste (that actually was just confused with someone else anyways)..?

Sounds like a pretty grabby reason if you ask me.

To be fair, the meta thing and disliking me was really really dumb, even if it was me that you disliked then its not like any of that should have been in the game. No, the reason I have a scumread on you is 'cause you were voting Josh for a shitty reason and then backtracked from

That bad logic obviously = scum

And Illogical = Anti-Town

but then I looked at your ISO and you had actually called it ant-town FIRST. Does that mean you weren't backtracking? But then that means you were voting someone for being "anti-town" which is ridiculously stupid. You must hate yourself now 'cause if you hate folks with bad logic...looking foreword to your catchup!

[Nero Cain]

Jason made two wagons 'cuse the first one is all scum and the second one is not.

So I am confirmed town?

It is clearly a joke but here is a treat (Since you still dont get the joke :<)

Still seemed really scummy to me.

Its like you and Yates have no sense of humor whatsoever. Ya'll were made for each other.

[Nero Cain]

Chandra Nalaar 1 - beastcharizard,
UniversalSlutBus 1 - mozamis,
Mozamis 1 - UniversalSlutBus,
KidA 1 - Malakittens
Aunt J 1 - displaced
ZZZX 1 - Josh_B,
beastcharizard 1 - Umbrage

all these vanity wagons should cease and desist

all you guys not voting need to vote asap

but the Josh B wagon sucks so don't join that one.

[Nero Cain]

vote:Yates

sheep me noa, Beast.

[Nero Cain]

People keep voting for not-ruffles

Why are they voting for not-ruffles

I could ask you the same thing about not voting scum Yates and UN but we can get ruffles later.

[Nero Cain]

Can you ISO Yates for me?

I too want Cabd to post but then again his excuse that him and Mac haven't synched up and that's somehow making him post like lurker scum is p ridiculous.

[Nero Cain]

sheep me

[Nero Cain]

town bloc of awesomeness
Nero/AJ/Bulb/SG/pid/chandra/josh
prob town
jk/arc/vezok/slutbus/umbrage/displaced/ZZZX
nullies
kid/moz/pv/mala/beast/thad
scum
Yates/ruffling/Viomi/UN

[Nero Cain]

and I fail to see a reasonable fucking opinion on why we're scum that does not include the word lurking.

This isn't entirely true as a large portion of why I (and others) suspect you is that the vote on Josh is ridiculously silly. Why are you pretending like this hasn't been said?

Yates have this HUGE ASS EGO

I agree with this

He and Nero does this only to troll town. Even if they are town they both play to their own alignment.

I do NOT agree with this. I think that you and several others know that I'm going to say whatever needs to be said and I'm going to shout it from the rooftops until I change my mind/find something else to yell about or they die. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. I think I have a naturally town oriented style and would never ever "troll" the town (not counting my obvious joke posts). I could write up a proper Yates case with quotes and the jazz but just briefly...

Yates isn't doing his wannabe town leader shit
He was super sensitive to my early obvious joke posts
the majority of his play is simply pushing back on me and SG
I'm also agreeing with Bulb that Yates voting UN for thinking it was a Mastin/Nero hydra despite arguing with me all day is off
He was discrediting me like woah which I know he does as scum
I feel is stance on the killing role is different then his stance in 2.5 men

So why do you think he's town, Angel?

[Nero Cain]

Under is 1005 scum.

[Nero Cain]

100%

[Nero Cain]

Bleh, I really really feel a town vibe from UN from hi latest posts. Im not sure id like to lynch him anytime soon at this point, he really feels frutrated.

Meh, I think there's shit all reason for Mac to be frustrated though I kinda agree that if Cabd is having health problems then I'm kinda eh about lynching them.

[Nero Cain]

JESUS FUCK!

[Nero Cain]

If you posted a few posts ago about not using meta when reading, Why do you want others to use meta to read you?

Its been done before.

@Everyone: Why are you not voting Josh?

'cause I'm hardheaded.

What is your case on him and he's defending Yatesscum a lot so what are you thinking there?

Fenix, who do you want to fry (top 3) I might even provide the oil!

[Nero Cain]

on Yates or Josh?

[Nero Cain]

by my count Yates is the leading wagon, with Ruffling next and the Cabd/some Vi hydra and Josh B fighting for the bronze.

Also Mala can ride in my scum pile.

[Nero Cain]

that refers to me, by the way. Claimed vig with used up all his shots = IC?

No, I think its a Named Townie. Since IC is confirmed town by mod but a dayvig could be mafia or SK.

Just saying that for what it really is.

he was being hyperbolic. He was aying he was an IC 'cause he's (in his mind) as good as conf town.

[Nero Cain]

Nc why am I in your scum pile?

Well, I didn't really like Rat much. In your 919 you were responding to posts but you didn't do links or post numbers so it kinda makes it hard to read and I think that's p likely to come from scum.

The game that NC was referring to was most likely my charmed game that just finished and SG replaced in. She did not come off 'spammy' that game even though she was town & a PR.

I'm not really a big fan of this post 'cause I think anyone would look at SQ in Charmed and find her posts about wanting me to give content and talk to her as a bit fluffy/spammy but even if they don't its like my opinion.

Yates scum is likely to vote park on his buddy.

I also wanted your reaction to being called scum and your reaction is very very tame for some odd reason.

I knida just want to start flashwagoning everyone that has their vote on a wagon that's not going to happen 'cause I think its very likely that scum are there trying to contribute to a no lynch.

[Nero Cain]

either move your vote in the next post or die.

Viomi 1 -The Rufflig
UniversalSlutBus 1 - mozamis
Mozamis 1 - UniversalSlutBus
KidA 1 - Malakittens
Aunt J 1 - displaced
beastcharizard 1 - Umbrage


Not Voting
Yates
Metal Sonic
ArcAngel9

[Nero Cain]

^^^^
this dies before lylo

[Nero Cain]

The Ruffling 6 - pidgey,BulbaFenix,Chandra Nalaar, ThAdmiral, mozamis, vezokpiraka
Yates 5 - Squirrel Girl,Kid A, Aunt Jemina, Nero Cain, beastcharizard
UnfriendlyNeighbors 3 - Josh_B, PeregrineV, Metal Sonic
Josh_B 3 - UnfriendlyNeighbors,ZZZX, Viomi

Viomi 1 -The Ruffling
Mozamis 1 - UniversalSlutBus
KidA 1 - Malakittens
Aunt J 1 - displaced
beastcharizard 1 - Umbrage


Not Voting
Yate's slot
ArcAngel 9

I also p much agree with SG's 1211. I'm not touching Josh, I'd compromise on Ruffling or UN but Yates is still my #1 choice. I also hate how Jason kinda WIFOMed the town and said Yates was replacing out for personal reasons and that's like sympathetic sounding....

Welcome to the town bloc, MS.

[Nero Cain]

Yates was replacing out for personal reasons and that's like sympathetic sounding....

Yates replaced out due to a death in the family. It's posted elsewhere if you go look.

oh...I did not know this. Do you think Yates is town?

[Nero Cain]

Yates was replacing out for personal reasons and that's like sympathetic sounding....

Yates replaced out due to a death in the family. It's posted elsewhere if you go look.

oh...I did not know this. Do you think Yates is town?

I don't have a town read there, no. I think the positional stuff he did around dancing with SG looked skeevy as fuck. I'd switch to that wagon if I had to.

You should 'cause like the Josh B wagon stinks and if you're willing to lynch yourself over scumreads then I'd be perfectly ok with that!

[Nero Cain]

Yates was replacing out for personal reasons and that's like sympathetic sounding....

Yates replaced out due to a death in the family. It's posted elsewhere if you go look.

oh...I did not know this. Do you think Yates is town?

I don't have a town read there, no. I think the positional stuff he did around dancing with SG looked skeevy as fuck. I'd switch to that wagon if I had to.

You should 'cause like the Josh B wagon stinks and if you're willing to lynch yourself over scumreads then I'd be perfectly ok with that!

Why does it suck?

I don't think that the tell you are using to vote him with is any good and he is reminding me of me 2-3 years ago where everyone was calling me scum when I was yelling and screaming shit.

[Nero Cain]

he is reminding me of me 2-3 years ago where everyone was calling me scum when I was yelling and screaming

shit

.

[Nero Cain]

p sure she was talking about more Yates votes

[Nero Cain]

Nero is the Town-Aligned Sheppard.

Any reason you specifically stated my alignment?

[Nero Cain]

I have not seen near enough from Yates to deem scum.

I still say Josh_B is hard scum.

Not enough traction for josh lynch. And I used up all my shots. Otherwise I would have cut this scumbutt into pieces

If you're town, you should be helping us lynch this scummy bastard. As in, trying to convince people to get traction.

I have the same problem I have with you that I have with Umbrage. Both of you are pushing wagons that won't happen [today]. I highly doubt that Josh is scum and Beast has some questionable posts so maybe (but he's helping me kill scum Yates so he's like 50% conf town!) But neither of you are actually trying to convince anyone these players are scum, Both of you need to try and be a salesman.

[Nero Cain]

I can't tell if you are joking or not.

I was being serious. I'm paranoid 'cause if you were to flip scum then it looks like an attempt to make it look like I am your buddy.

[Nero Cain]

Pushes against such slots unnerve me, since there's no one there to defend against any allegations. It would be an easy lynch for scum to push at this point.

*shrugz* I know that I'm town and atleast AJ and SG are town and prob MS though I do agree that scum could hop on but they could hop on any lynch and its not like I cared for Yates much when he was here.

I don't care for Josh but I also don't care much to lynch him.

For me its either Yates or Ruffling and I lean Yates so yeah...

[Nero Cain]

@ Everyone that's saying the reason they won't vote Yates 'cause he can't claim-dl is in 14 hours, lets say we run Ruffles up and get a claim...what is the point 'cause I don't think we'll have time to rewagon and then the onlt viable wagon after Ruffling is Yates so....what is the point in getting a claim?

Mala-is there any reason you didn't respond to me?

[Nero Cain]

Are you arguing that 'cause Ruffling didn't try to save his own bacon that he's town?

He's basically contributing to a no lynch and he'd know his alignment better than Yates...like I have a town read on you but if it ever came down to me vs. you I'd vote your busy tail in a second 'cause I know that I'll flip town and I think any townie worth his grain in salt would do the same.

[Nero Cain]

No one is making any allegations against either of us

[Nero Cain]

My point has nothing about a claim. My point is that going after a slot that is getting replaced is rather cheap. I can understand why you are doing so, since you've been pushing the Yates-scum wagon for the longest time, but those that jumped on after Yates asked for replacement have a lot of explaining to do. Overall, I'd rather not lynch there today.

I totes get it. My point is that with such little time a claim from Ruffling is basically doing shit all 'cause I don't we'd have time to put together a wagon if he claimed and folks didn't want to lynch him for his claim so we'd be pretty much just lynching Ruffling period or no lynching. So this "hey Yates isn't here to claim!" is so head desk.

Though I p much want both dead so...

vote:Ruffling

[Nero Cain]

No one is making any allegations against either of us

Or right, you had a problem with 1 post that I made back around 350??? Your problem with Yates was that he used the wrong name in one post. YaY! Strong cases to refute!!! In the case of Yates, you were town reading him up until that point.

If you think this then you are obviously not reading the thread.

Though explain to me why sidelining your vote instead of voting Yates to save yourself?

[Nero Cain]

Weren't you arguing that Yates was a bad lynch 'cause he couldn't claim? Him and Ruffling were the only viable options at that point.

[Nero Cain]

Which makes me supersad 'cause I wanted your slot dead.

[Nero Cain]

and a SG scum kinda makes me think Mala scum so I'ma vote that and then do some reading

vote:Mala

[Nero Cain]

Well we know Pid and Yates/TWIE was not on their team and that's a help!

[Nero Cain]

So are bulb, Moz, UN, Viomi, Kid, and Chandra. Man Ruff should be town MVP 'cause he just confirmed a ton of players.

[Nero Cain]

Also, can anyone come up with a second scumteam name that would be plausible at all? Or is this an SK/vig?

I don't think the name has anything to do with it. Its plausible that the SG/Ruff team (we'll call it nutruffs) shot Thad and the other team shot SG. Or Thad could be the lone scum kill and SG is vig/sk. *shrugz*

[Nero Cain]

Are you ignoring me?

[Nero Cain]

Well most women are...errr nvm

h/o, I think I asked you a question yesterday so lemme see if I can find it.

[Nero Cain]

Nc why am I in your scum pile?

Well, I didn't really like Rat much. In your 919 you were responding to posts but you didn't do links or post numbers so it kinda makes it hard to read and I think that's p likely to come from scum.

The game that NC was referring to was most likely my charmed game that just finished and SG replaced in. She did not come off 'spammy' that game even though she was town & a PR.

I'm not really a big fan of this post 'cause I think anyone would look at SQ in Charmed and find her posts about wanting me to give content and talk to her as a bit fluffy/spammy but even if they don't its like my opinion.

Yates scum is likely to vote park on his buddy.

I also wanted your reaction to being called scum and your reaction is very very tame for some odd reason.

Well it wasn't really a question, just thought you'd respond to it.

So what do you think of me calling you scum?

[Nero Cain]

Well you did soft defend scum which is why my vote is on you.

[Nero Cain]

Well you did soft defend scum which is why my vote is on you.

Not really. I already told you I can't read SG. I have had issues w/ reading him in the past.

ok......

you not being able to read him (???) has like nothing to do with you going "oh nope they weren't trolling in my game."

[Nero Cain]

PeregrineV
Umbrage
Viomi
Malakittens

here is your list for shooting, MS.

[Nero Cain]

With daytalk is 100% entirely possible

What about him not wanting to vote Yates?

[Nero Cain]

maybe ZZX

[Nero Cain]

Someone talk to me about Yates, why didn't Rufling vote him?

@Pid-I don't think the "iso effect" means anything

[Nero Cain]

Sg poor scum I thought she was strong town my poor reads

I thought SG was town too so don't feel bad.

[Nero Cain]

and a SG scum kinda makes me think Mala scum so I'ma vote that and then do some reading

vote:Mala

Why does SG-scum equal Mala-scum?

I think her "no mala wasn't trolling" seems like the soft type of defense from scum.

Also, can anyone come up with a second scumteam name that would be plausible at all? Or is this an SK/vig?

I don't think the name has anything to do with it. Its plausible that the SG/Ruff team (we'll call it nutruffs) shot Thad and the other team shot SG. Or Thad could be the lone scum kill and SG is vig/sk. *shrugz*

Given the unique faction name and the warning about possible incursion threats, I'm pretty sure this is multiball. Why are you trying to dismiss the possibility?

Except it doesn't really say anything like that. I also explicitly stated that the two shots could be scum/scum.

[Nero Cain]

Josh-the players that Ruf/SG are most likely NOT on their team. So they are 50% conf town. Though Ruff not voting Yates is pretty mind boggling dumb. Its not impossible for Yates to get ran up and then Ruff. Was Yates a Ruff buddy? Did they think Yates was other scum and were trying to placate them?

TWIE has also not towned it up like last game.

[Nero Cain]

Josh-the players that Ruf/SG voted are most likely NOT on their team

FIFY!

[Nero Cain]

Mmm, but if slot is an SK, why announce it publicly on your first shot?

town cred

They've been focusing on slots that you don't want near endgame, and that's classic vig behavior.

ummm its also behavior from scum that's trying to look town so its null.

Plus, MS is playing to his town meta.

Well there's that but it seems more intense that I've seen before.

Serial killeryness, yeah. Serial killer, no.

There is only town dayvig and I heard rumors of mafia dayvig. I have not ever heard of sk dayvig no way not ever

Yeah, I've never heard of a sk dayvig. And why would JKlash claim? Be a completely bonkers way of playing.
Metal is so likely town, again why would a scum dayvig claim?

In Harry Potter Tammy was a daysk, 1 shot mafia vigs are fairly common (and I know metal isn't 1 shot.) In a Nexus game one of the scumteams shot during the day.

Really don't like Chandra's sudden activity. If I had to guess, SG told him he had to be more active in the QT.

I don't see any difference.

He has not been scumhunting for a specific faction

This. I mean, I guess its possible for Bulb to be scum and accuse me of something scummy to try and keep me lynchable but he was saying a lot of things that I agreed with so I think he's likely town but can you show me

A fact that he himself is guilty of by only hunting for partners of Squirly and Fliggy.

Also I don't agree with him bullying MS like at all.

[Nero Cain]

pre-emptive prod dodge. Tomorrow is my catchup day

[Nero Cain]

Also I don't agree with him bullying MS like at all.

Then read these.

Spoiler: Bullying Sonny

I love double day action it makes me want to hip shoot someone right now



Let's not be rash


I don't think Pv is scum because that would mean he would be scum in all the games is play with him

I'm going to tell you this, if you shoot A-N-Y-O-N-E!! You better shoot ZZX or KidA.

~Fenix

I love double day action it makes me want to hip shoot someone right now



Let's not be rash


I don't think Pv is scum because that would mean he would be scum in all the games is play with him

Fine. Talking with Bulba now.

Shoot KidA. NOW!

Shoot him,

NOW

!

The reason why Bulba says so is because we're looking over the SG and Ruffles ISO, and SG overlooked something that she should not have as town.

~Fenix

(Emphasis added.)

I love double day action it makes me want to hip shoot someone right now



Let's not be rash


I don't think Pv is scum because that would mean he would be scum in all the games is play with him

Fine. Talking with Bulba now. Shoot KidA. NOW! Shoot him, NOW! The reason why Bulba says so is because we're looking over the SG and Ruffles ISO, and SG overlooked something that she should not have as town.

~Fenix

Now????

Can I do it later

i got the worst marvel character does anyone want to trade

i got wolverine can i just say that im someone else

from now on im paste pot pete

going to hammer if nobody objects

Metal Sonic. Shoot. Kid A. Now.

Emphasis to the Sonny post added, where Sonny was hesitant...and BulbyFenny pushed him further.

Additionally, not a single word was spoken about Kiddy having flipped town after that. BulbyFenny just kept pushing Vinny and Zexxy as if nothing had changed. Oh, pardon me. There was one spot.

When I said that I disagreed with you its not that I didn't know what you were talking about. Its just that MS is responsible for his own actions. Its not like Bulb held a gun to his head (but if Bulb is scum then he maybe!) so I think that MS looks pretty scummy from that but its also exactly what townBeast did in FE:A. I also wish I was a compulsive vig.

You trying to pair up Yates and Ruff though

So why do you think Ruff didn't vote Yates? Ruff could have hopped on Yates and saved himself but he didn't. That's pretty bad play so what, he's just a bad scum player?

I thought I saw an associative link between Squirrel Girl and Kid A. I was wrong.

So when I find what I feel is a link between Mala and SG its wrong and I shouldn't push Mala. What's the difference here?

[Nero Cain]

ummm....this is the first time replacing slutbus.

[Nero Cain]

i think they are very cool players because i played with them before and they are very exciting and trustable

hate hate hate this

VIP might be town

Who?

I'd add Nero Cain and Bulba

I'm getting pretty wary of Bulb and I don't see Moz as super town or anything.

[Nero Cain]

RachMarie, come play with us, I see you posting elsewhere!

This is actually a pretty decent scumtell though.

[Nero Cain]

Bulba is "I would fakeclaim masons with him/fake a cop inno on him" level of town. And I'm pretty damn sure he feels the same, which is nice, it's great coming into a game with a strong townread for day two, with two scum down.

IDK man, that whole accusing me of doing something he's doing and the waving away my link between Mala and SG while pushing his link between SG and Kid A seem pretty bad.

[Nero Cain]

For rach it is, yeah.

Not just for Rach. I've also lynched Mastin and Nacho and someother random players for this but yeah, Rach lurked it up in the LOTR game.

[Nero Cain]

Bulba is "I would fakeclaim masons with him/fake a cop inno on him" level of town. And I'm pretty damn sure he feels the same, which is nice, it's great coming into a game with a strong townread for day two, with two scum down.

IDK man, that whole accusing me of doing something he's doing and the waving away my link between Mala and SG while pushing his link between SG and Kid A seem pretty bad.

That is more a "is bulbafenix" tell than a scumtell. That hydra is... weird.

It wasn't hydra dis, it was all bulb unless you are saying that Bulb starts acting dumb in a hydra.

[Nero Cain]

can you guys shut up so I can catch-up?

[Nero Cain]

Was kinda busy yesterday with my two mommies but today you get to reads my words and tonight we dine on Bulbafenix. Hopefully he tastes like chicken.

[Nero Cain]

If you were to be a player who has notable self-esteem issues and is easily lost

I don't see MS has having low self-esteem and getting easily lost. I think he's a troll and a half and maybe an sk. What would be funny if Bulb was team scum and told MS sk to shoot Kid A. Yes, I think Bulb may very well be scum but the whole "he forced MS to do something" still seems silly wich prob makes no sense to anyone but me.

On to page 70.

-Bulba

I am ALWAYS going to be paranoid of this since you did it as scum.

@Umbrage-stop playing like a wannabe Fate plox

@Chandra- read on Bulb plox.

[Nero Cain]

I mean it hurts but I'm thinking 9 scum is a lot

9?!? Can someone respond to this with a red flag pic 'cause I'm to lazy to go get one.

[Nero Cain]

Since you are Josh, you can explain why you think this game has 9 scum and I also want Pid to explain why 4v4 is unbalanced?

[Nero Cain]

Well derp me. I was thinking that this was a 26 player game and that a 6v20 town seemed really lopsided and a 8v18 or 9v17 seemed more plausible. But with 25? 6 scum vs a 19 player town? meh 7 scum vs. an 18 player town makes sense to me 'cause I like even numbered towns, MS may very well be an SK and this 3 and 4 man scum teams seems really oddly specific. So I agree that 3v3 is the most likely.

[Nero Cain]

No. A) Three scum teams is fucking stupid and barely even mafia anymore, no one would do that in a game not explicitly advertised as insane. B) Do you see three nightkills? I sure don't.

I agree that a 3rd (mafia) team is very ver unlikely but sk

IS

a faction (or any other 3rd party is its own faction.) I've also seen a sk "team" b4.
I do not believe that the read thing is nessisarily a slip. I vaugely remember this from another game and I think it was town that said it.

Im also pretty ok with bulbafenix as town at this point. I think

Why?

No, deary. Sonny's shots do not come from a serial killer. Aside from play making it unlikely (lashy is no Tammy pressured to claim; he claimed willingly and without hesitation as a newer player), setups jason have run since then have nearly-always possessed a dayvig, especially in multiball.

I don't think MS' shots clear him and I don't think that his claiming clears him. Mod meta

might

make him less likely to be an sk but a 3v3v19 game seems townsided and I'm not sold on the 3 and 4 man scum teams.

Said Mrs. I-post-extra-massive-walls-instead-of-making-two-posts

leave to Ove---pancake alt alone!

[Nero Cain]

What's the BC case? I guess its not impossible for him to come in and be like "I'ma sheep you!" to feed my ego.

Though I still think we should be lynching from Bulb or Rach.

[Nero Cain]

vote:Bulb

[Nero Cain]

You don't know why I'm voting you? You should die just for that.

[Nero Cain]

Because, unless I've missed it, I didn't see the FULL explanation/case.

and a SG scum kinda makes me think Mala scum so I'ma vote that and then do some reading

vote:Mala

Why does SG-scum equal Mala-scum?

I think her "no mala wasn't trolling" seems like the soft type of defense from scum.

Welcome to the town bloc, MS.

your town bloc policy sucks and i wont be trusting your town bloc reads in the future


i do not expel members from my town bloc

*shrugz*

I think if I had a killing role and was shooting from the hip you'd be slightly suspicions of me + I think the set up points to a 3rd faction. + a static town bloc is stupid and + I don't like you being defended by bulb/cabd. So who is in your town bloc?

On to page 78!

-Bulba

[Nero Cain]

should have been 79. Would have been so much funnier without the typo.

[Nero Cain]

Nero- Mostly gut really. There's not much that makes me uneasy or weary about bulba to be honest.

So you don't think there's scum intent to his "look at Nero hunting black scum...I myself am hunting black scum."? That seems weird as fuck. I also dislike

CABD

trying to write off his cong dis as hydra dis.

Mala, if town, is someone you want to keep around.

What has Mala done that's been super townie or is this based on future greatness? Also why did you not out your reasoning before Kid A was shot?

Why? I don't see MS as a prime NK target, do you?

if MS is a day SK then I don't suspect scum will leave him around unless they are sitting there and trying to get on his good side so they don't get shot.

We have no clue who could be the last Marvel scum, and

we're not putting a lot of effort into it atm.

Well why?

Alright, then, deary. Sonny is town for a combination of factors.
lashy shot Rony, foreshadowed in 296, and to some extent (unvoting because he knew he'd shot) 372. This shows that lashy was shooting at players he was suspicious of.
lashy was entirely open about having made the shot.
lashy was under no pressure when making the shot. This combined with the above indicates a town mindset rather strongly, as lashy did not keep this secret. By claiming it, he draws attention to himself rather than away from himself.
lashy having shot so impulsively, though not ideal town play, is also not scum play, because a sour player in that situation is more prone to making calculated shots. Or if not, if shooting immediately, of shooting someone they think is a threat. That was not the case.
Sonny's play has been incredibly open, even more than lashy's was. He has hidden nothing and allowed you to see where he has come from clearly.
Sonny's handling of the fake shots was also a town-motivated move. You may argue that the move did not accomplish much. However, if you look at the reasoning for the gambit to be made, there is town incentive and no matching scum incentive.
Sonny's second shot, though similar to lashy's in that it was impulsive, showed that he was not saving onto it to make a play as scum. He shot when pressured to shoot, and that is a reaction more indicative of town (or at worst a serial killer).
Recent moderator meta strongly favors day shooters being town-aligned in jason games.
That same moderator meta specifies that the day shooter being town-aligned is in-flavor a bit morally ambiguous. Last game, The Master was the day-vigilante; this game, Sonny's claim is of a similar vein.
If another source of kills shows up, it confirms that the game possesses two scum, a serial killer, and a vigilante. A town vig seeing Sonny having claimed would have either shot Sonny or been heavily suspicious of him; that has not happened. Thus, if a third source of kills appears during the night, they belong to a serial killer and both mafia factions, with the day-killer being the vigilante.

I don't think it his unvote was foreshadowing his shot,, yes he suspected him but that's not impossible to fake. Meh, beyond the mod meta argument nothing really convinces me that I should town read him. Although teamscum is some what unlikely its not impossible. He's either a dayvig or SK so we aren't going to worry about lyching him until mafiascum is dead.

@Bulb-read on Vezok?

[Nero Cain]

Alrighty so prettyyyy sure Rach is town especially with her recent contributions.

I'm going to
VOTE: Underacheivers

Cabds posting so far haven't felt like Cabd town. Same goes for Mac.

What makes Rach's recent contributions townie?

I agree with you about CABD but how in the world did you end up voting a player not in this game?

So half of me wants to push the bulb lynch to completion and the other half is "hold off" with Bulb and Cabd teasing us with same alignment. So my official stance is that I'd still be a-ok with a bulb flip but if you guys want to flip to Malascum then I'm ok with that!

[Nero Cain]

SKOT-stop peacock posting plox

[Nero Cain]

Fair enuff, bro.

You can also highlight a certain part of text and hit quote and it only quotes that part.

Are you currently voting Bulb with me?

[Nero Cain]

also editing is fun.

[Nero Cain]

Quick meta question... has anyone seen metal sonic try that hard literally ever? I want to call him town and walk away after that.

That's actually a big reason why I'm scumreading him. I need to go meta him some to prove/disprove myself but the MS town I remember trolls the game but here he actually has a sembalance of play and I'm like WTF!?!

[Nero Cain]

Are you saying that those are games you didn't just troll in?

[Nero Cain]

Because this isn't the first time I had to deal with this in this thread

What do you mean, in the thread?

[Nero Cain]

NOW ITS MY TURN TO SAY "HASNT TOWNED IT UP LIKE LAST GAME"
Nero Cain

Are you latina, 'cause you have a BIG ASS OMGUS? Though I do like that you'd kill Bulb but why is UN null?

Why do I actually need to explain this?

They have reads.

I have reads.

My reads are not dependant on their reads.

I dont understand why somebody else thinking that you're town should make me believe that you are?

You think 4 players have a town role PM. They all think thing X is true. That's four people you comparatively trust who are all making the same argument. Why would you not care? It's kind of egotistical to not take things like that into account.

This part is actually really good, Umbrage.

[Nero Cain]

idk, are you?

[Nero Cain]

Maybe its just that I'm older and not as egotistical, but I think there's obvious benefit to listening to your team.

[Nero Cain]

older as in I've been on this site for four years. Also why have you not changed your location yet?

[Nero Cain]

Why does everyone think that being town means your reads automatically don't suck?

There are lots of town players with shit reads. I just have gotten into the habit of LISTENING to my team and its helped me avoid mislynches. This is a team game regardless of how big the compensatory ego's are.

Because they have like no content today? Its like 29 posts of set up spec, fluff, and a bulbaF town read. I had to go back to the VC to remember that slots name.

Shouldn't the fact that its CABD is lurking and doing nothing be a huge red flag?

Maybe its just that I'm older and not as egotistical, but I think there's obvious benefit to listening to your team.

The high rate of mislynches begs to disagree.

?????

There's going to be mislynches regardless 'cause some townie will always play like crap and some idiot will always be the loudest voice. So this makes like zero sense.

[Nero Cain]

So here's where I'm at. I think Viomi's rage is null. I also dislike the part that's were "viomi doesn't use meta but asked/told people to meta her." I really don't see how that's so scummy.

I'm much rather be lynching in Bulb/UFN/Mala.

Bulb/UFN/Mala>>>>BC>>>>Viomi>>>>MS>>>>nl

I'd also buy a vowel and a Rach lynch.

[Nero Cain]

Maybe its just that I'm older and not as egotistical, but I think there's obvious benefit to listening to your team.

The high rate of mislynches begs to disagree.

Good luck lynching whoever you want to by yourself, then!

this made me lol

[Nero Cain]

I would like to know too, I have vezo dude as a town read.

Why?

[Nero Cain]

I am increasingly growing into the mindset that beasty is in fact sour, but is alone (perhaps a serial killer), and that I should pursue a BulbyFenny/Joshy/Grinny/Kitty team with vezzy as the other lone scum.

I'm much rather be lynching in Bulb/UFN/Mala.

Bulb/UFN/Mala>>>>BC>>>>Viomi>>>>MS>>>>nl

I'd also buy a vowel and a Rach lynch.

Would that vowel happen to be vezz-

E

?

This is along my thoughts, if removing Sonny, and moving the neighbors to that spot (the third name replacing them being Grinny). Vinny would be a decent lynch for informative purposes to allow players recalibration, but is a bad lynch otherwise as Vinny is not going to flip sour. Beasty is an okay lynch, but not ideal. BulbyFenny/Grinny/Kitty are my preferences, in order. (I would note that Joshy is still in my suspect list, but I do not foresee him being lynched today in spite of my desires.)

I also want to say that I have a severe distaste in my mouth for this scum read combo. Can anyone tell me how the crap both of these players (including the ones that wrote it) have come to a Bulbafenix/Malakittens combo. I want to see posts that link Mala and BF together. Or some sort of legit explanation that would cause this FoS.

We interrupt this mafia game with late breaking information.

JOSH B IS A CLAIMED IDIOT!

I know that sounds harsh as fuck but I have a pretty limited vocabulary but that post was pretty dumb man. I mean no where did I say that Bulb/Mala were linked although its not exactly impossible and Bulb waving away my suspicion on Mala could be the link but that requires black scum be 4 (or I guess they could be on the white team and I was wrong about linking Mala and SQ and BuddyBulb came charging to her defense. *shrugz*) Though fussing about us have a similar reads lists seems kinda dumb. Its possible that AJ is scum and sheeping/shadowing me, its also possible that AJ just has a similar mindset as me.

AJ, be a dear and give me a list of your nicknames for each player.

[Nero Cain]

Other than that, i probably wouldnt miss viomi and id be ok with her being THE DAY KILL TOMORROW.

you know that he's a claimed two shot or do you think he's gambiting again?

[Nero Cain]

Well its not like my iso is devoid of bulb/mala suspicion, bro.

[Nero Cain]

It disturbs me, however, that the Bulba wagon is the only one I feel reasonably confident is comprised of townies.

So why exactly is he not in your lynch pool?

[Nero Cain]

I don't understand yor question

^^^
more reason why I hate this slot

[Nero Cain]

prod, gonna catchup tomorrow.

[Nero Cain]

The latter. You have played with me before, Nero, deary. We work well together.

I agree. I do think that scum often shadow/repeat things from town/folks not on their team but its not like a p tell 'cause town often agree with each other at times too. So I could understand that he'd think YOU were scum but calling us both out is strange.

How is asking you about your read waving away suspicion?

pretending like you didn't say "I don't see it."

Nero: Whatever the heck this is supposed to mean

Bulb/UFN/Mala>>>>BC>>>>Viomi>>>>MS>>>>nl

I'd also buy a vowel and a Rach lynch.

that was my preferred lynch list.

[Nero Cain]

Nothing has really changed for me. yeah, I'm totes against a Displaced lynch. BC is still better but not as great as the sour (yes, I went there AJ) masons or Mala.

[Nero Cain]

never too early for POE

[Nero Cain]

I sincerely hope someone shoots you tonight though, I can't think of anyone I would want having those shots less including scum.

need progress, viomi won't defend self or even take the time to do so.

Vote Viomi-

and yes, I think there is a high chance she flips town...

vote:Beast

now switxh your vote back.

[Nero Cain]

Why is there no bulb read?

[Nero Cain]

this is 100%?

[Nero Cain]

Why did you switch accounts? (yes I know that Mac flaked)

[Nero Cain]

Well why didn't you say so? Fucking alt

unvote

[Nero Cain]

vote:Beast

both need to claim if they haven't done so.

@ Aunt Jemina , Josh_B,, Cabd, TheWayItEnds,

Who do you want lynched, viomi or beast?

[Nero Cain]

Yeah 'cause MS theme games are devoid of fake claims.

[Nero Cain]

*head explodes*

I still don't see how Bulb is town 'cause that calling me out for hunting black scum when I wasn't and then hunting black scum himself seems p similar to what he did in Mastin's game as scum.

[Nero Cain]

Until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm going to just assume 4 scum left.

like this doesn't even make sense here. A 6/19 game seems super townsided.

I know CABD is hinting at being a mason with you Jesus Christ your play is bad.

[Nero Cain]

23 UnfriendlyNeighbors (Mac/Cabd Hydra)** - Leaning Town: Really a read on Cabd, they panic when they are scum from the last game we played together and it doesn't seem like they are panicking.

Do I have a shitty doppelganger running around using my username, or did you completely make this up?

totes unrelated but has Mac flaked on this game?

[Nero Cain]

Titus is getting ran up really fast, anyone want to tell me what's going on or do I need to read for myself?

[Nero Cain]

Why am I no longer in your sweetcore AJ?

[Nero Cain]

ok lynch.

We all done talking or we gonna hunt for buddies/black scum?

[Nero Cain]

oh nm, Titus did claim black scum